Who do you consider a succesfull adult webmaster?

[polish_aristocrat]

How much should an adult webmaster make per month, so that you could consider him a succesfull webmaster.
$5k? $10k? $100k?

[Manowar]

5k-10k a month is successful . anything is over that is plain pimpin'

[slapass]

I know everyone will scream 100k is too small etc but at 10k a guy/gal is doing pretty well in most countries and is fine in the US. So it is probably 20-30k per month to be a success.

[brand0n]

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thats what came to mind

[Ray@TastyDollars]

ahh, so If a webmater makes 100K a month and it costs him 100K to make that 100K he is successful?

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally posted by brand0n
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thats what came to mind

did you read the question?

[Ross]

Originally posted by Ray
ahh, so If a webmater makes 100K a month and it costs him 100K to make that 100K he is successful?

That depends. He could be an employee of his company getting paid $10K per month but the company runs at no profit.

Too many factors involved.

[brand0n]

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

did you read the question?

ahh i thought u were asking WHO, not how much
im not awake yet man, just rolled outta the bed, kinda hung over

um, i dont think how much you make really matters as long as you live happy in your means. if you are happy, then why compare yourself or your income to anyone else? then there is always the factor that there is someone out there who is making more then you. that shouldnt be the drive in life, or atleast i dont think it should be. id reather enjoy spending a day with my girl and daughter from time to time, then tryin to figure out how i can make the money fantasy man makes.

btw g morn.

[Tofu]

Originally posted by Ross

Too many factors involved.

[s9ann0]

you need to have over 50,000 hits a day to be successfull

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Originally posted by Ross
That depends. He could be an employee of his company getting paid $10K per month but the company runs at no profit.

Too many factors involved.

True.

But what im saying is you cant messure succes by how much money a webmaster makes.

I know one webmaster (from the board) that makes 10-12K a month from his basment and yet does not have a penny to his name.

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by brand0n
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grim
fly
juicy
sleazy
aaronm
pk
turbo
bt
marc
princess
helmy
chris
larry
voodoo
euro
jenn
myself!


thats what came to mind

Just curious... what in your mind makes all of these people successful? Do you know them personally? Or are you basing your thoughts on something else?

No offense intended to the people in your list, but I know that some of them are not as "successful" as one might think.

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally posted by Ross
That depends. He could be an employee of his company getting paid $10K per month but the company runs at no profit.

Too many factors involved.

No, I don't mean someone who works for someone else in a regular job.
Rather someone who started as an affiliate and then eventually created some paysites and small-medium affiliate program.

Or a tgp owner, gallery submitter, seo specialist or whatever...

[brand0n]

you dont have to know any of these people to know they live a happy life. and wouldnt you consider living a happy life a key element in succes?

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by brand0n
you dont have to know any of these people to know they live a happy life. and wouldnt you consider living a happy life a key element in succes?

Absolutely. However, that level of success has nothing to do with this thread. I'll let you wake up.

[Scott McD]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Just curious... what in your mind makes all of these people successful? Do you know them personally? Or are you basing your thoughts on something else?

High GFY post count i think...

[Ross]

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

No, I don't mean someone who works for someone else in a regular job.
Rather someone who started as an affiliate and then eventually created some paysites and small-medium affiliate program.

Or a tgp owner, gallery submitter, seo specialist or whatever...

Oh no sorry. I'm not saying that. I mean someone who has their own company but for tax reasons is "on paper" as an employee of that company. Then they get paid a salary.

I know someone who does this. His accountant told him its the best way to do so. Dunno why!

[Ross]

Originally posted by Ray


True.

But what im saying is you cant messure succes by how much money a webmaster makes.

I know one webmaster (from the board) that makes 10-12K a month from his basment and yet does not have a penny to his name.

Money isn't a true measure of success. Well not to everyone anyway. Sure its an important factor but not the sole factor.

[Ray@TastyDollars]

Originally posted by Scott McD

High GFY post count i think...

[BobChezule]

Originally posted by Ross
Oh no sorry. I'm not saying that. I mean someone who has their own company but for tax reasons is "on paper" as an employee of that company. Then they get paid a salary.

I know someone who does this. His accountant told him its the best way to do so. Dunno why!

People do this because you can then expense a great many things to the company and those expenses are counted as pre tax, thus saving you money when it's time to pay uncle sam.

[Ross]

Originally posted by BobChezule


People do this because you can then expense a great many things to the company and those expenses are counted as pre tax, thus saving you money when it's time to pay uncle sam.

Yeah I knew that. But then doing so this way you pay personal tax. So wouldn't it just work out the same?

[Sly_RJ]

Originally posted by Ross
Yeah I knew that. But then doing so this way you pay personal tax. So wouldn't it just work out the same?

Nope. Your business can buy and write off stuff. You pay yourself a small amount (little taxes) and you still get all the cool toys, actually more.

[OldJeff]

Success is dependent upon what goal the webmaster is going for.

Make a car payment ?
Not need an outside job ?
Pay your mortguage ?
Have a million in the bank ?
More ?

All of these can be considered successful, it all depends on what the person is trying to do.

Someone looking to make a car payment netting a thousand a month is very successful, while someone looking to make a million a year making 30 gand a month is not successful.

[seven]

Originally posted by Scott McD
High GFY post count i think...

lol. Exactly what I was thinking. But hey if you are so busy posting on gfy you couldn't be too busy counting your money huh? Just kidding..

Anyways, you guys better be talking about "NET" income "NOT GROSS" otherwise, I'm so fucking successful that it's not even funny Reminds me to hate my content providers, PPCs I buy traffic from, traffic brokers, TGPs I pay for slots, paying employee, my host etc. etc.

[Ross]

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Nope. Your business can buy and write off stuff. You pay yourself a small amount (little taxes) and you still get all the cool toys, actually more.

Then it indeed does sound like a very good idea.

[sickkittens]

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat

did you read the question?

Topic: Who do you consider a succesfull adult webmaster?

[JohnV]

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
How much should an adult webmaster make per month, so that you could consider him a succesfull webmaster.
$5k? $10k? $100k?

polish_aristocrat,

I would consider you a pretty damn successful publisher

[AaronM]

Originally posted by brand0n
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grim
fly
juicy
sleazy
aaronm
pk
turbo
bt
marc
princess
helmy
chris
larry
voodoo
euro
jenn
myself!


thats what came to mind

At least 1/3 of the people in this list are lucky to pay their bills each month. What makes them succesful?

[Ash@phpFX]

sucess is dependant on the individuals definition.
i am a student most of the year so when im making $1K a month, i will consider my enterprise to be a sucess.

If lensman or steve lightspeed or someone made $1k a month, i dont think they would concider themselves sucessful though

[HarlotCash Dyker]

Some people will conder they have made it when they have their own home, a reasonable standard of living, and a decent holiday or two a year and still able to save -
The amount this takes is different from country to country - Cheap countries Like America and Russia, success can be 4K a month. (but success only to yourself).
Ultimately, success is achieving your targets -
To me, there is one stage higher - Mega-success. These people say nothing - Don't brag, don't get flashy, don't give shit.

Their is only one person like that in this business that I know of - Those that have made big cash in this industry tend to show their lack of class very easily.

[Zappu]

To be a succesfull webmaster will not be messured by your gross sales, it will be messured by your post on GFY. Below 100 (approx 1 Post per week) is pretty succesfully, becaus eyou are working and not hanging around at the board and getting boring

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally posted by HarlotCash Dyker

The amount this takes is different from country to country - Cheap countries Like America and Russia, success can be 4K a month. (but success only to yourself).

well....$4k per month is $48k per year.
That's enough also for living in the US.
If someone started 2 years ago with an attitude "ok, let's build some porn galleries and see if you can really make money with this", then $4k is porobably also an success for him.

[slapass]

Well I think if you read the question on make the simple assumption that it is net. This would be a the net income it takes to think of that person as a succes. So think of a sort of random person says yeah this is great i make X. And you go damn that is sweet. What is X?

[Roald]

Originally posted by Ross
Too many factors involved.

true, I think you are pretty succesfull if you are able to pay your bills and don't have to watch every penny.

[besterman]

financial success in my opinion is efficiency. It doesn't matter what principle you start with but rather if you can compound it at a high rate for an extended period of time. Even someone who compounds 10,000 at 30% per year for 30 years is going to be filthy rich.

[RichC]

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
How much should an adult webmaster make per month, so that you could consider him a succesfull webmaster.
$5k? $10k? $100k?

A webmaster whose earnings exceed the opportunity cost of doing something else with the time... is a success

[ColBigBalls]

[crockett]

I think some one is successful if they can live off what they make.. not meaning living off cheetos either have to live good

[JohnV]

Originally posted by RichC


A webmaster whose earnings exceed the opportunity cost of doing something else with the time... is a success

Is that why you do so little

[venus]

10k a month would only cover the costs for my site.

I feel success is a feeling of personal accomplishment.
I may make less then some but more then others, but do I feel successful.
There are probably people who would feel poor on what I make. its a personal thing that many people interpret differently.

Originally posted by Manowar
5k-10k a month is successful . anything is over that is plain pimpin'

[codymc12]

If you make a full time living at it (and not live out of a cardboard box), then you are successful.

These days, anyone who can do that is doing something.

[RichC]

Originally posted by codymc12
If you make a full time living at it (and not live out of a cardboard box), then you are successful.

These days, anyone who can do that is doing something.

Hawgwash!

Folks can make livings doing lots of things.

If you can make more doing something else...(and as long as that something else you're content doing)....well you should do it.

You're a success if you exceed the opportunity cost of doing something else....if not...well maybe think about things. This business isn't for everyone.

[MetaMan]

Originally posted by brand0n
lens
bone
grim
fly
juicy
sleazy
aaronm
pk
turbo
bt
marc
princess
helmy
chris
larry
voodoo
euro
jenn
myself!


thats what came to mind

u r such an ass kisser its not even funny, u just listed people who you want attention from and have no idea about their income,

omg DORK!

[codymc12]

Originally posted by RichC


Hawgwash!

Folks can make livings doing lots of things.

If you can make more doing something else...(and as long as that something else you're content doing)....well you should do it.

You're a success if you exceed the opportunity cost of doing something else....if not...well maybe think about things. This business isn't for everyone.

Re read the posts. The thread has been talking about successful webmasters.

My reply is that within that framework (webmaster) it's not the dollar amount - it's your standard of living. If you can do this as a full time job and you're happy with your standard of living, you are a success.

With the exception of someone who is doing a job they actually love, that is the only standard that matters, and there is no set 'dollar amount' for that. Depends on many things - geography (eg, cost of living), size of your family, personal financial goals, etc, etc.

Consult yourself when it comes to that standard, and don't live by the standards of others.

[RichC]

what's a webmaster?

strange word!

[codymc12]

Originally posted by RichC
what's a webmaster?

strange word!

[inthestars]

Originally posted by Ray


True.

But what im saying is you cant messure succes by how much money a webmaster makes.

I know one webmaster (from the board) that makes 10-12K a month from his basment and yet does not have a penny to his name.

Why is that?

[inthestars]

Originally posted by brand0n
you dont have to know any of these people to know they live a happy life. and wouldnt you consider living a happy life a key element in succes?

Have you seen Persian Kitty's house? It's fucking incredible. Believe me, you'd get happy really fucking fast living in a house with that sort of view.

[sheldonjuan]

Originally posted by RichC


Hawgwash!

Folks can make livings doing lots of things.

If you can make more doing something else...(and as long as that something else you're content doing)....well you should do it.

You're a success if you exceed the opportunity cost of doing something else....if not...well maybe think about things. This business isn't for everyone.

exceed the opportunity cost ???

can you explain wtf this means...

thnx

[Spunky]