Educational Newbie question

[violentritual]

Hi guys - first post here nice to meet you all kek

So basically my question is the following; I'm new in this whole thing, started off with CPA but hosting a tube site with a certain microniche would be my next step.

I have already searched around for the host, WP-plugins etc so that would be settled.

However what my question is to you - is it a good idea to:

1. start the micro niche site and upload daily around 50 new videos to get ranked slowly but steadily

2. add advertisement which links to a revshare program, obviously of the same niche

3. continue SEO in combination with uploading daily new videos (ripped of via the tube plugin) - I do know that it will be a lot of work since i'd have to rewrite the description of the clips to make google think I provide original content

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From the above, whats in general the opinion of the experts here, is this a ridiculous, a decent idea, whats a part which I deffo should not forget and what should I avoid?

Or do you advise to go into whitelabeling? & is chaturbate revshare program for starters like me already saturated or still worth it to give it a shot?


Thank you in advance!

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by violentritual

Hi guys - first post here nice to meet you all kek

So basically my question is the following; I'm new in this whole thing, started off with CPA but hosting a tube site with a certain microniche would be my next step.

I have already searched around for the host, WP-plugins etc so that would be settled.

However what my question is to you - is it a good idea to:

1. start the micro niche site and upload daily around 50 new videos to get ranked slowly but steadily

2. add advertisement which links to a revshare program, obviously of the same niche

3. continue SEO in combination with uploading daily new videos (ripped of via the tube plugin) - I do know that it will be a lot of work since i'd have to rewrite the description of the clips to make google think I provide original content

_____

From the above, whats in general the opinion of the experts here, is this a ridiculous, a decent idea, whats a part which I deffo should not forget and what should I avoid?

Or do you advise to go into whitelabeling? & is chaturbate revshare program for starters like me already saturated or still worth it to give it a shot?


Thank you in advance!

Do you understand the term "copyright infringement" ?

[sarettah]

If you are going to build your business around an illegal model you should just go rob a bank, it is much more lucrative and a whole hell of a lot more exciting

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[violentritual]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Do you understand the term "copyright infringement" ?

Please do enlighten me where I'm hitting the bump with "copyright infringement"

quote from xvideos:
"Embed all xvideos to your site at once!
There are no restriction to the number of videos you can place on your site. Many large sites use our videos. Embedding videos is more interesting for you than sending traffic directly to other sites."

[violentritual]

Originally Posted by sarettah

If you are going to build your business around an illegal model you should just go rob a bank, it is much more lucrative and a whole hell of a lot more exciting

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Please clarify the illegal part?

-> xvideos allows you to use their videos, since they don't own the videos themselves anyway (tube script)
info.xvideos .com/db

[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by violentritual

Yes I do and if you would be an expert you would have known that xvideos as example is having absolutely no problem with that.

So can you offer anything useful for the above or?

No problem with what? Illegal user-uploads? Well they do follow DMCAs.

So your plan is to download clips from Xvideos and reupload them on your own site, correct? Or am I missing something?

[violentritual]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

No problem with what? Illegal user-uploads? Well they do follow DMCAs.

So your plan is to download clips from Xvideos and reupload them on your own site, correct? Or am I missing something?

Quote from xvideos:
"Embed all xvideos to your site at once!
There are no restriction to the number of videos you can place on your site. Many large sites use our videos. Embedding videos is more interesting for you than sending traffic directly to other sites."

There are sites which are selling tubeplugins for wordpress, you can search via that specific plugin on xivideos for videos and make only these appear on your website. This is completely legal for at least xvideos, the rest I thought so as well.

Perhaps I was unclear, in that case, my apologies.

The difference is that I'll be targetting only the videos of my microniche, not literally a whole copy paste of xvideos by way of speaking. Many have done and failed (as from the stories I've read).

Lets give a simple example - yoga pants site (plenty of them already but.. as a microniche), I'd install the plugin, search for all yoga pants videos, rename the videos (gonna suck big time to do but apperantly its good for SEO/google ranking).

Then I'd search for yogapants signup sites which offer a revshare and put these ads in the advertisementfields

The plugin would make my site look like another xvideos or youporn, redtube whatever but, with only 1 niche & the domain lets say, yogatube dot com, stupid example, but it gives you the idea
If not clear, just lemme know, apologies again for the attack

[sarettah]

It is very nice for tubes to give you permission to use videos that they themselves do not often have permission to use.

Kind of like me stealing a car and then giving oyu permission to use it, ya know?

Not all of the videos on tubes are illegal but many are. Some owners won't go after the big tubes because 1. The big tubes have lots of money and 2. The big tubes have lots of traffic.

But little guys (like you) are setting yourself up for DMCA city.

Strictly my opinion and it is worth exactly what you paid for it.

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[SpicyM]

Originally Posted by violentritual

Quote from xvideos:
"Embed all xvideos to your site at once!
There are no restriction to the number of videos you can place on your site. Many large sites use our videos. Embedding videos is more interesting for you than sending traffic directly to other sites."

There are sites which are selling tubeplugins for wordpress, you can search via that specific plugin on xivideos for videos and make only these appear on your website. This is completely legal for at least xvideos, the rest I thought so as well.

Perhaps I was unclear, in that case, my apologies.

The difference is that I'll be targetting only the videos of my microniche, not literally a whole copy paste of xvideos by way of speaking. Many have done and failed (as from the stories I've read).

Lets give a simple example - yoga pants site (plenty of them already but.. as a microniche), I'd install the plugin, search for all yoga pants videos, rename the videos (gonna suck big time to do but apperantly its good for SEO/google ranking).

Then I'd search for yogapants signup sites which offer a revshare and put these ads in the advertisementfields

The plugin would make my site look like another xvideos or youporn, redtube whatever but, with only 1 niche & the domain lets say, yogatube dot com, stupid example, but it gives you the idea
If not clear, just lemme know, apologies again for the attack

Ahh, you mean embedding, ok.

[violentritual]

Originally Posted by sarettah

It is very nice for tubes to give you permission to use videos that they themselves do not often have permission to use.

Kind of like me stealing a car and then giving oyu permission to use it, ya know?

Not all of the videos on tubes are illegal but many are. Some owners won't go after the big tubes because 1. The big tubes have lots of money and 2. The big tubes have lots of traffic.

But little guys (like you) are setting yourself up for DMCA city.

Strictly my opinion and it is worth exactly what you paid for it.

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I get your point of view but since its not in ownership of xvideos and obviously if I would use the videos of lets say czechstreets, I'd keep that logo on the video but thats not the case.

Strange that I get this kind of answers since this is a common method for starters, if you google "how to make money with an adult site" lol.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by violentritual

I get your point of view but since its not in ownership of xvideos and obviously if I would use the videos of lets say czechstreets, I'd keep that logo on the video but thats not the case.

Strange that I get this kind of answers since this is a common method for starters, if you google "how to make money with an adult site" lol.

Also, as SpicyM pointed out above, there is a difference between uploading and embedding.

Your original post says:

1. start the micro niche site and upload daily around 50 new videos to get ranked slowly but steadily

The Xvideos text you shared states: Embed all xvideos to your site at once!

If you upload to your site, then you are hosting the videos and would need distinct permission from the video copyright holder to be legal. That would limit you to videos you purchase with a license that allows you to put them up on your tube and sponsor videos which are usually pretty short, or videos you actually created.

Embedding videos is a different animal. Then XVideos is hosting them and you are just linking to them through an embed so they look like they are hosted by you, but they aren't.

Much less exposure to any copyright complaints that way.

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[violentritual]

Originally Posted by sarettah

Also, as SpicyM pointed out above, there is a difference between uploading and embedding.

Your original post says:

1. start the micro niche site and upload daily around 50 new videos to get ranked slowly but steadily

The Xvideos text you shared states: Embed all xvideos to your site at once!

If you upload to your site, then you are hosting the videos and would need distinct permission from the video copyright holder to be legal. That would limit you to videos you purchase with a license that allows you to put them up on your tube and sponsor videos which are usually pretty short, or videos you actually created.

Embedding videos is a different animal. Then XVideos is hosting them and you are just linking to them through an embed so they look like they are hosted by you, but they aren't.

Much less exposure to any copyright complaints that way.

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Oh okay then sorry for the misunderstanding from my side.

Till now I am really only talking about embedding!

Okay, let me rephrase

1. get the tube plugin & hosting
2. search for the videos of my microniche & embed them on my website
3. work like a crazy mofo on SEO/getting traffic - put revshare links in the ads field & continue working on the SEO by embedding daily 50 other videos (to not overflood) & renaming them
4. get slowly but steady targetted organic traffic & pray they go for signups?

The above - does it sound like a solid plan if I'm really going to invest alot of time & energy in or is it already something you can say "thats absolutely horsesshait"?
I know its written in a retarted way but its been a long day so yeh :D

[RyuLion]

Welcome to GFY! What's the domain?

[violentritual]

Originally Posted by RyuLion

Welcome to GFY! What's the domain?

Hi, thank you!

Well basically I'm still have to buy it etc but was wondering if this whole idea was a good idea at all. I'd go with something like forced sexscenes as microniche. So i'd go with ForcedSexScenes dot com or againstherwill dot come, this kind of stuff I'd buy, after having the "business plan" to be good to go. What do you think?

[PaperstreetWinston]

welcome aboard!

[celandina]

Originally Posted by SpicyM

Do you understand the term "copyright infringement" ?

Of course he does not

[celandina]

Originally Posted by violentritual

I get your point of view but since its not in ownership of xvideos and obviously if I would use the videos of lets say czechstreets, I'd keep that logo on the video but thats not the case.

Strange that I get this kind of answers since this is a common method for starters, if you google "how to make money with an adult site" lol.

I would use the videos of lets say czechstreets

Try that and Martin will find you and personally will break your legs ! I do NOT get it why thief like you even comes here and tries to solicit advice as how to steal ....So

You must be a real moron if you think that czechtreets is actual amateur site made just for fun buy some chicks who want to see the world fucking them. I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and Easter Bunny.

[violentritual]

Originally Posted by celandina

Try that and Martin will find you and personally will break your legs ! I do NOT get it why thief like you even comes here and tries to solicit advice as how to steal ....So

You must be a real moron if you think that czechtreets is actual amateur site made just for fun buy some chicks who want to see the world fucking them. I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and Easter Bunny.

alright Karen, no idea what your problem is but you clearly haven't heard of the tube plugin I'm talking about. You wanna help or just raise your postcount by useless comments.

You seem to be a very frustrated person, you might wanna seek some help in real life

adent dot io/how-to-start-a-porn-site
roboscripts dot net

Are just a few of many sites which are providing this kind of information.

Czechstreet was like absolutely the most random thing which came into my mind and I had no additional thoughts with it. I don't think its real but if the idea that someone thinks its real triggers you so hard, I think demention might be not that far away from your current age.

PS: betterhelp.com could help you in meanwhile with your personal anger issues

[violentritual]

Originally Posted by celandina

Try that and Martin will find you and personally will break your legs ! I do NOT get it why thief like you even comes here and tries to solicit advice as how to steal ....So

You must be a real moron if you think that czechtreets is actual amateur site made just for fun buy some chicks who want to see the world fucking them. I guess you still believe in Santa Claus and Easter Bunny.

Oh and in meanwhile, please, don't forget to read the misunderstandings which were cleared already about half a day ago. Must be difficult for you to read in a chronologically order sweety

EDIT: I browsed around and found more people using tube scripts so why don't you go bother them lol

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by violentritual

alright Karen, no idea what your problem is but you clearly haven't heard of the tube plugin I'm talking about. You wanna help or just raise your postcount by useless comments.

You seem to be a very frustrated person, you might wanna seek some help in real life

adent dot io/how-to-start-a-porn-site
roboscripts dot net

Are just a few of many sites which are providing this kind of information.

Czechstreet was like absolutely the most random thing which came into my mind and I had no additional thoughts with it. I don't think its real but if the idea that someone thinks its real triggers you so hard, I think demention might be not that far away from your current age.

PS: betterhelp.com could help you in meanwhile with your personal anger issues

Originally Posted by violentritual

Oh and in meanwhile, please, don't forget to read the misunderstandings which were cleared already about half a day ago. Must be difficult for you to read in a chronologically order sweety

EDIT: I browsed around and found more people using tube scripts so why don't you go bother them lol

You really like making good impressions, don't you?

Celandina takes content theft seriously.

Pointing to Robo Scripts or any of the other tube scripts does not remove the onous from you on running a legitimate, legal site.

And talking down to people on this board isn't going to win you any points either.

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[violentritual]

Originally Posted by sarettah

You really like making good impressions, don't you?

Celandina takes content theft seriously.

Pointing to Robo Scripts or any of the other tube scripts does not remove the onous from you on running a legitimate, legal site.

And talking down to people on this board isn't going to win you any points either.

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honestly, I couldn't care less about winning points, I came here to ask a simple question and a frustrated Karen-type starts to throw bombs, I'm sorry mate but I'm not here to make friends, I want to educate myself and if she's an example of the comments I'm getting here then its no wonder I see topics like " why gfy is dying"

I guess I even dont need to quote her posts to make it obvious she is lacking social skills.

I honestly did not knew that tubing was harming the copywriting rights since xvideos is allowing themselves to be "copied". Thats noted and will be taken in consideration but there was no need to go full karen mode for no reason, especially when she did not even read the fact that I expressed myself wrongly and apologised towards the other members for it.

[sarettah]

Originally Posted by violentritual

honestly, I couldn't care less about winning points, I came here to ask a simple question and a frustrated Karen-type starts to throw bombs, I'm sorry mate but I'm not here to make friends, I want to educate myself and if she's an example of the comments I'm getting here then its no wonder I see topics like " why gfy is dying"

I guess I even dont need to quote her posts to make it obvious she is lacking social skills.

I honestly did not knew that tubing was harming the copywriting rights since xvideos is allowing themselves to be "copied". Thats noted and will be taken in consideration but there was no need to go full karen mode for no reason, especially when she did not even read the fact that I expressed myself wrongly and apologised towards the other members for it.

The place is called "GO FUCK YOURSELF".

What were you expecting, that we would all be sitting around singing Kumbaya or something?

I mean, I'm one of the nicer people around here and I'm a total fucking asshole most of the time.

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[violentritual]

Originally Posted by sarettah

The place is called "GO FUCK YOURSELF".

What were you expecting, that we would all be sitting around singing Kumbaya or something?

I mean, I'm one of the nicer people around here and I'm a total fucking asshole most of the time.

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I thought it was metaphorically speaking as for the subject of adult webmasters.

But now you're saying I won't be singing kumbaya? How about mambo number 5?

[celandina]

Originally Posted by sarettah

The place is called "GO FUCK YOURSELF".

What were you expecting, that we would all be sitting around singing Kumbaya or something?

I mean, I'm one of the nicer people around here and I'm a total fucking asshole most of the time.

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Much thanks. I appreciate your interjection BUT you cannot re educate thieves and crooks. He comes here with a straight face and asks for advice as how to profit from stolen content and then gets all hot and bothered when someone points it out to him. Go figure