New TGP LL AVS Autosubmitter Specs - GoFuckYourself.com

pimplink · 10-20-2001, 07:30 AM

Thanks to all the suggestions, here's the final specs of the first build of the autosubmitter me and my buddies are building. If you're not on the beta distribution list yet, email me at [email protected] with your thoughts regarding all of the items below --just say if you think this is a good set of a features and whether webmasters would find it useful. I also need to know if you think this software will be valuable enough that you'd tell your buddies about it. Honest answers only, all coherent responses will get on beta distrib list.

First build should be available soon if my boss doesn't catch me coding at work [hehehehe].

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Objective: To save webmasters time by automating almost all their current Link List, TGP, AVS, and SE activities.

Software functions:
Automatically generates and submits galleries/sites/avs pages to TGPs, AVS sites, link lists, and submits all new pages to Search Engines.

3 Levels of Operation:
Fully automated--all page generation and submissions are automated
Medium automation--some pages are autogenerated and autosubmitted, other pages are autogenerated but submitted page by page by hand click to submit button [allows editing of URL and submit info]
Page Generation only -- all hand submissions but using a submit tracker so as to avoid duplicates

Niche Support--if you specialize in a particular niche, system will allow you to build differing subcategories of this niche. Each subcategory will have differing template HTML pages you can use as well differing rotating descriptions

Software ships out with all tgps, link lists, avs, search engines, enabled. Will automatically be disabled temporarily depending on whether the target tgp/ll/avs supports the category of gallery you are submitting. Software will ship with all TGP buttons, Link list buttons, and required SE buttons [if applicable]

Allow for multiple domains. If you own 1 domain or 500 domains, the software will let allow you to submit.

Differentiate between TGPS/LLs that allow multiple submissions daily and those that allow only 1 post daily.

Automate page/site maintenance based on traffic/sales of gallery/site

If you own your own TGP/Link List allows you to hardcode your link on every page you generate

Detailed TGP management system--identify problem submissions and TGPs with contact info you load on so you can contact the webmaster quickly and resolve problems.

Automated Black List management--TGP owners submit black list requests to our database so as to refine and manage the list of LL/TGP sites that users post to. This prevents the few jerks from spoiling the game for the rest of the players.

Random rotation of recips

AUTOMATED SCHEDULING ? Some TGPs allow only certain number of posts per day. System should be automated that TGPs are sorted in terms of which have been sent to already and must wait till next day and ones that allow for many posts.

TGP2 Compliant

Easy to use interface, no computer background necessary. I'll make this thing so damn easy to use Britney Spears could use it! :>

Design philosophy re automation: Webmasters should do less manual labor and do more thinking re strategies in growing their business. We aim to build not just an automation tool but a management platform from which you can make informed and calculated business decisions.

email me at [email protected]

Hope to hear from ya!
Pimplink

[This message has been edited by pimplink (edited 10-20-2001).]

playa · 10-20-2001, 07:39 AM

if you sell this program make sure you sell it for $1000.00
this way you don't flood the market with cheaters and lamers who looking for a quick buck,,,

but of course you can send me a free copy,,,i will give it my blessings if its good..

hook me up
[email protected]

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pimplink · 10-20-2001, 07:48 AM

$1000 ??? I understand the point re the cheaters though.

Would an adult webmaster really pay that much for this software suite?

I was thinking more along the lines of $100 once it's completely stress tested/debugged/ and stuffed chock full of all the TGPs /LLs/AVS who want autosubmission [all tgps/lls who DON'T want autosubmission will still be included in the MANUAL submission mode]

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deluxe · 10-20-2001, 07:50 AM

Another important aspect you should keep in mind is a webmaster referral program so that you're sure that people will get the word out to there buddy's.

Now get me on that beta distrib list

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deluxe · 10-20-2001, 07:51 AM

I know of an avs script, I think it's avsblaster that goes for 1500...

It's a really good tool though

pimplink · 10-20-2001, 07:56 AM

Thanks! You're on the list, dude!

Quote:

Originally posted by deluxe:
Another important aspect you should keep in mind is a webmaster referral program so that you're sure that people will get the word out to there buddy's.

Now get me on that beta distrib list

deluxe · 10-20-2001, 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by deluxe:
I know of an avs script, I think it's avsblaster that goes for 1500...

It's a really good tool though

The correct name is avsblitz, www.avsblitz.com you might want to take a look at that site to.

playa · 10-20-2001, 08:12 AM

$100??? you gotta be kidding,,
trust me you'll get more webmasters pissed at you then anything,,,

it'll prolly be on every submit rules page,,

1. Pimplinks program will get you banned!!!
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believe it,,,TGSW only cost like $200 and so many TGP's hate it,, 90% of them galleries submitted through the program is crap,,,
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If its good people will pay $1000.00 for it,,

and there is alot of software that cost over $1000.00,,,
if you build it they will come,,

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pimplink · 10-20-2001, 08:22 AM

I see your point. Maybe if its priced higher [but not $1000] so that only serious people use it and I implement some serious processor based "fingerprinting" technology [to bar code crackers] it will answer your concerns.

Also, assuming that that the super easy and powerful interface makes people want to pay $1000 for this, can still this be sold via an affiliate program?

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pimplink · 10-20-2001, 08:28 AM

To be honest, I've never seen an affiliate program for anything that cost over $200 iBill/CCBill and the usual group of CC processors only go as high as $100 or $200. Maybe Paycom.net?

playa · 10-20-2001, 08:37 AM

interesting,,,haven't been in the business for awhile ha?

check it out http://www.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ucj/
first 300 sold for $1200
after 2 years it dropped $600.00
http://www.avsblitz.com
is selling for $1500
http://www.perlcoders.com/scripts/in...lavs/info.html
selling for $1200
http://www.c-scripts.com/s2/index.html
$1500

plus there are many more!!!

also a cool feature is it could make a doorway pages with all the submitted gallery,AVS,link list pages

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DarkJedi · 10-20-2001, 08:45 AM

Yep, if your product is very good (no bugs, etc) you should set a high price for it.

pimplink · 10-20-2001, 08:50 AM

okay, I've seen perlcoders at ynotmasters, they've been around. I've been in this business about 2 years mostly building galleries, site backends, and custom coding.
Thanks for the info re the other development shops though.

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3Xguru · 10-20-2001, 11:08 AM

Ok Pimplink
First of all let me tell you that I am a programmer myself.
You want to build a software that automates the creation and submiting process to LL TGP, AVS, and SE.
Well that is impressive.
1*
First of all you have to be sure that you and your team have the experience to do that.
From my programmmer experience I would say that you have 4 people in your team it would take you al least 8-10 months to do a software that does all that.You say that the first beta will be ready soon, and you are presenting the program features now.Well it makes me wonder...I mean from the moment you know what you want the program to do until you release the first beta it's a long way, at least 6-7 months for a program like this.
Only creating the database scheme should take you at least 2 weeks, not to say how long it will take you to populate it.
2*
There are a lot of programs specialised on a single type of site...AVS, TGP, ..., and they have a lot of bugs and liitations. Ofcourse, it would be nice to have a program to do all that, but the level of complexity would be to high, and if you want to charge 100$ for a copy of the program then I think that you don't know what you're geting into.You may create a program that creates and submits to TGP, AVS, LL, SE but it would have a lot of limitations. My advice is to stick with one type of site only, for example TGP galleries and do a program that kills all the competition, rather than doing a program that does a little bit of everithing but not that well.
3*
From my experience I know that the most userfriendly program takes the most coding,
so you should balance the amount of work you want to do with the "userfriendlines" part.

I hope I did not dissapointed you.

I would love to see your first beta .

For more questions you can ICQ me:134841848

pimplink · 10-20-2001, 11:38 AM

3XGuru:

Thanks for the feedback. Actually, the team I'm working with has quite a bit of experience. We're also getting free consultation from a software usability analyst

Thanks for the support and we look forward to clear kick ass critiques.

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Timothy · 10-20-2001, 04:13 PM

Pimp.
What language you used to code your program? And which platform it supports?
Stand alone win32 application would be nice

pimplink · 10-20-2001, 04:29 PM

It's a Standalone Win32 application with MySql as database. This is not a script.

Win98/Win2000

Pimplink

Hypo · 10-20-2001, 05:04 PM

I would definitely buy a server version (script) at a high enough price. I dont like desktop versions, they tie up the computer too long, and cant be run on cronjobs on vacations.

Hypo · 10-20-2001, 05:10 PM

Secondly, scripts are very customisable. So I can get in and change some settings I desperately need. I wouldnt know how to do that with win32 applications.

Third, if it does not submit to sites that dont like autosubmits, many people will not buy it. Most people want something that submits to all TGPs regardless of their likings.

Hypo · 10-20-2001, 05:14 PM

Plus, you MUST check out and work with all the programs available right now to see their limitations and why people arent buying them. LinkUpPro was supposed to do almost everything your program is supposed to. I dont think it went well with the webmasters though. Almost no one has it. Your program might go the same way so you should check why linkuppro failed.

MuddyJoe · 10-20-2001, 05:50 PM

As far as prices go... I think you should charge $300-600. LinkUpPro and AdultWebmasterSoftware.com charge high prices. And if you have an affiliate program paying 15-25% that would rock and I'd definately promote it. I've been very successful selling TGSW without even trying.

pimplink · 10-20-2001, 06:13 PM

Given all the powerful automation and account/performance management tools you will need, we can't make this a server side script for the general release. Maybe if you want a custom server script, we'll do a custom job for you.

Quote:

Originally posted by Hypo:
I would definitely buy a server version (script) at a high enough price. I dont like desktop versions, they tie up the computer too long, and cant be run on cronjobs on vacations.

Keev · 10-20-2001, 06:24 PM

Pimplink i have been trying to get ahold of ya for awile now,...

Hit me up
104463163

pimplink · 10-20-2001, 06:35 PM

Keev,

Just email me, dude. [email protected]

Quote:

Originally posted by Keev:
Pimplink i have been trying to get ahold of ya for awile now,...

Hit me up
104463163

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Timothy · 10-21-2001, 01:43 AM

Hey Hypo. It's true. I think like that while i'm a newbie, but if you do that you will get your ass blacklisted everywhere quickly.
Perhaps the best way is let they submit and show the "fake" result, but the program doesn't submit them. That doesn't matter, even they submit they will not be listed. Or the program can switch "Simple" and "Advance" mode like ICQ, and this trick is on Simple mode only

Quote:

Originally posted by Hypo:

Third, if it does not submit to sites that dont like autosubmits, many people will not buy it. Most people want something that submits to all TGPs regardless of their likings.

pimplink · 10-21-2001, 01:44 PM

This project is currently in Alpha stage -- we're sending out questionaires to users. We want a cross section of experience/success levels so we can have
1) an interface everyone can use
2) functionalities most users would find important
3) product validation -- determine if this is the product the market wants and would use extensively.

Thanks for asking to be on the beta list, if you havent received your questionaire, email me at [email protected]

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Custom Programming! Looking for desktop or server applications? Email me -- reasonable rates, TOP quality!
[email protected]

pimplink · 10-21-2001, 03:59 PM

We expect the first cut of this software to appear in about 1 to 2 months.

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Thor · 10-21-2001, 10:37 PM

I cant wait to try it out

10-20-2001, 07:30 AM	#1
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	New TGP LL AVS Autosubmitter Specs Thanks to all the suggestions, here's the final specs of the first build of the autosubmitter me and my buddies are building. If you're not on the beta distribution list yet, email me at [email protected] with your thoughts regarding all of the items below --just say if you think this is a good set of a features and whether webmasters would find it useful. I also need to know if you think this software will be valuable enough that you'd tell your buddies about it. Honest answers only, all coherent responses will get on beta distrib list. First build should be available soon if my boss doesn't catch me coding at work [hehehehe]. +++++++++++ Objective: To save webmasters time by automating almost all their current Link List, TGP, AVS, and SE activities. Software functions: Automatically generates and submits galleries/sites/avs pages to TGPs, AVS sites, link lists, and submits all new pages to Search Engines. 3 Levels of Operation: Fully automated--all page generation and submissions are automated Medium automation--some pages are autogenerated and autosubmitted, other pages are autogenerated but submitted page by page by hand click to submit button [allows editing of URL and submit info] Page Generation only -- all hand submissions but using a submit tracker so as to avoid duplicates Niche Support--if you specialize in a particular niche, system will allow you to build differing subcategories of this niche. Each subcategory will have differing template HTML pages you can use as well differing rotating descriptions Software ships out with all tgps, link lists, avs, search engines, enabled. Will automatically be disabled temporarily depending on whether the target tgp/ll/avs supports the category of gallery you are submitting. Software will ship with all TGP buttons, Link list buttons, and required SE buttons [if applicable] Allow for multiple domains. If you own 1 domain or 500 domains, the software will let allow you to submit. Differentiate between TGPS/LLs that allow multiple submissions daily and those that allow only 1 post daily. Automate page/site maintenance based on traffic/sales of gallery/site If you own your own TGP/Link List allows you to hardcode your link on every page you generate Detailed TGP management system--identify problem submissions and TGPs with contact info you load on so you can contact the webmaster quickly and resolve problems. Automated Black List management--TGP owners submit black list requests to our database so as to refine and manage the list of LL/TGP sites that users post to. This prevents the few jerks from spoiling the game for the rest of the players. Random rotation of recips AUTOMATED SCHEDULING ? Some TGPs allow only certain number of posts per day. System should be automated that TGPs are sorted in terms of which have been sent to already and must wait till next day and ones that allow for many posts. TGP2 Compliant Easy to use interface, no computer background necessary. I'll make this thing so damn easy to use Britney Spears could use it! :> Design philosophy re automation: Webmasters should do less manual labor and do more thinking re strategies in growing their business. We aim to build not just an automation tool but a management platform from which you can make informed and calculated business decisions. email me at [email protected] Hope to hear from ya! Pimplink [This message has been edited by pimplink (edited 10-20-2001).]

10-20-2001, 07:39 AM	#2
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	if you sell this program make sure you sell it for $1000.00 this way you don't flood the market with cheaters and lamers who looking for a quick buck,,, but of course you can send me a free copy,,,i will give it my blessings if its good.. hook me up [email protected] ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 www.NoBSdialer.com promote webcams$50 bonus just for signing up

10-20-2001, 07:48 AM	#3
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	$1000 ??? I understand the point re the cheaters though. Would an adult webmaster really pay that much for this software suite? I was thinking more along the lines of $100 once it's completely stress tested/debugged/ and stuffed chock full of all the TGPs /LLs/AVS who want autosubmission [all tgps/lls who DON'T want autosubmission will still be included in the MANUAL submission mode] ------------------ Custom Programming! Looking for desktop or server applications? Email me -- reasonable rates, TOP quality!

10-20-2001, 07:50 AM	#4
deluxe Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,434	Another important aspect you should keep in mind is a webmaster referral program so that you're sure that people will get the word out to there buddy's. Now get me on that beta distrib list ------------------ RaptorLabs Design Studio RaptorLabs Design Studio offering HQ paysite designs for $1099, delivery within days, unique designs guaranteed. Boost your paysite performance today!! Join4Ever Webmaster program - Join now! 77717734

10-20-2001, 07:51 AM	#5
deluxe Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,434	I know of an avs script, I think it's avsblaster that goes for 1500... It's a really good tool though

10-20-2001, 08:12 AM	#8
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	$100??? you gotta be kidding,, trust me you'll get more webmasters pissed at you then anything,,, it'll prolly be on every submit rules page,, 1. Pimplinks program will get you banned!!! ------------------- believe it,,,TGSW only cost like $200 and so many TGP's hate it,, 90% of them galleries submitted through the program is crap,,, ---------- If its good people will pay $1000.00 for it,, and there is alot of software that cost over $1000.00,,, if you build it they will come,, ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 www.NoBSdialer.com promote webcams$50 bonus just for signing up

10-20-2001, 08:22 AM	#9
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	I see your point. Maybe if its priced higher [but not $1000] so that only serious people use it and I implement some serious processor based "fingerprinting" technology [to bar code crackers] it will answer your concerns. Also, assuming that that the super easy and powerful interface makes people want to pay $1000 for this, can still this be sold via an affiliate program? ------------------ Custom Programming! Looking for desktop or server applications? Email me -- reasonable rates, TOP quality!

10-20-2001, 08:28 AM	#10
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	To be honest, I've never seen an affiliate program for anything that cost over $200 iBill/CCBill and the usual group of CC processors only go as high as $100 or $200. Maybe Paycom.net?

10-20-2001, 08:37 AM	#11
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	interesting,,,haven't been in the business for awhile ha? check it out http://www.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ucj/ first 300 sold for $1200 after 2 years it dropped $600.00 http://www.avsblitz.com is selling for $1500 http://www.perlcoders.com/scripts/in...lavs/info.html selling for $1200 http://www.c-scripts.com/s2/index.html $1500 plus there are many more!!! also a cool feature is it could make a doorway pages with all the submitted gallery,AVS,link list pages ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 www.NoBSdialer.com promote webcams$50 bonus just for signing up

10-20-2001, 08:45 AM	#12
DarkJedi No Refunds Issued. Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: GFY Posts: 28,300	Yep, if your product is very good (no bugs, etc) you should set a high price for it.

10-20-2001, 08:50 AM	#13
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	okay, I've seen perlcoders at ynotmasters, they've been around. I've been in this business about 2 years mostly building galleries, site backends, and custom coding. Thanks for the info re the other development shops though. ------------------ Custom Programming! Looking for desktop or server applications? Email me -- reasonable rates, TOP quality!

10-20-2001, 11:08 AM	#14
3Xguru Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Iasi Posts: 1,281	Ok Pimplink First of all let me tell you that I am a programmer myself. You want to build a software that automates the creation and submiting process to LL TGP, AVS, and SE. Well that is impressive. 1* First of all you have to be sure that you and your team have the experience to do that. From my programmmer experience I would say that you have 4 people in your team it would take you al least 8-10 months to do a software that does all that.You say that the first beta will be ready soon, and you are presenting the program features now.Well it makes me wonder...I mean from the moment you know what you want the program to do until you release the first beta it's a long way, at least 6-7 months for a program like this. Only creating the database scheme should take you at least 2 weeks, not to say how long it will take you to populate it. 2* There are a lot of programs specialised on a single type of site...AVS, TGP, ..., and they have a lot of bugs and liitations. Ofcourse, it would be nice to have a program to do all that, but the level of complexity would be to high, and if you want to charge 100$ for a copy of the program then I think that you don't know what you're geting into.You may create a program that creates and submits to TGP, AVS, LL, SE but it would have a lot of limitations. My advice is to stick with one type of site only, for example TGP galleries and do a program that kills all the competition, rather than doing a program that does a little bit of everithing but not that well. 3* From my experience I know that the most userfriendly program takes the most coding, so you should balance the amount of work you want to do with the "userfriendlines" part. I hope I did not dissapointed you. I would love to see your first beta . For more questions you can ICQ me:134841848

10-20-2001, 11:38 AM	#15
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	3XGuru: Thanks for the feedback. Actually, the team I'm working with has quite a bit of experience. We're also getting free consultation from a software usability analyst Thanks for the support and we look forward to clear kick ass critiques. ------------------ Custom Programming! Looking for desktop or server applications? Email me -- reasonable rates, TOP quality! [email protected]

10-20-2001, 04:13 PM	#16
Timothy Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 153	Pimp. What language you used to code your program? And which platform it supports? Stand alone win32 application would be nice

10-20-2001, 04:29 PM	#17
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	It's a Standalone Win32 application with MySql as database. This is not a script. Win98/Win2000 Pimplink

10-20-2001, 05:04 PM	#18
Hypo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,104	I would definitely buy a server version (script) at a high enough price. I dont like desktop versions, they tie up the computer too long, and cant be run on cronjobs on vacations.

10-20-2001, 05:10 PM	#19
Hypo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,104	Secondly, scripts are very customisable. So I can get in and change some settings I desperately need. I wouldnt know how to do that with win32 applications. Third, if it does not submit to sites that dont like autosubmits, many people will not buy it. Most people want something that submits to all TGPs regardless of their likings.

10-20-2001, 05:14 PM	#20
Hypo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,104	Plus, you MUST check out and work with all the programs available right now to see their limitations and why people arent buying them. LinkUpPro was supposed to do almost everything your program is supposed to. I dont think it went well with the webmasters though. Almost no one has it. Your program might go the same way so you should check why linkuppro failed.

10-20-2001, 05:50 PM	#21
MuddyJoe Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Des Moines, Iowa Posts: 5	As far as prices go... I think you should charge $300-600. LinkUpPro and AdultWebmasterSoftware.com charge high prices. And if you have an affiliate program paying 15-25% that would rock and I'd definately promote it. I've been very successful selling TGSW without even trying.

10-20-2001, 06:24 PM	#23
Keev Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 5,335	Pimplink i have been trying to get ahold of ya for awile now,... Hit me up 104463163

10-21-2001, 01:44 PM	#26
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	This project is currently in Alpha stage -- we're sending out questionaires to users. We want a cross section of experience/success levels so we can have 1) an interface everyone can use 2) functionalities most users would find important 3) product validation -- determine if this is the product the market wants and would use extensively. Thanks for asking to be on the beta list, if you havent received your questionaire, email me at [email protected] ------------------ Custom Programming! Looking for desktop or server applications? Email me -- reasonable rates, TOP quality! [email protected]

10-21-2001, 03:59 PM	#27
pimplink Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Closer than you think Posts: 9,535	We expect the first cut of this software to appear in about 1 to 2 months. ------------------ Custom Programming! Looking for desktop or server applications? Email me -- reasonable rates, TOP quality! [email protected]

10-21-2001, 10:37 PM	#28
Thor Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Does anyhahahaha care ? Posts: 721	I cant wait to try it out