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Lightning · 11-15-2001, 12:14 PM

Big news...... http://www.absolut-series.com

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playa · 11-15-2001, 12:17 PM

"THIS WEBSITE IS CLOSED DUE TO THE ILLEGAL LINKING TO AND POSTING OF CRIMINAL FREEHOSTING PAGES.
TGP WEBSITES ARE BEING INVESTIGATED AND WILL BECOME EXTINCT DUE TO THE LIABILITY.

Closed By APIC-WORLDWIDE "

TGP websites are being investigated,, what are they talking about?

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12clicks · 11-15-2001, 12:18 PM

Alex, what is bullshit?

correct for 200

SexyJo · 11-15-2001, 12:19 PM

Wow, absolut was pretty big too, hm quite odd. I think its implying some of the freehost had some illegal content in their servers , and they caught absolut linking to these servers ?

thats messed up

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SmutPimp · 11-15-2001, 12:26 PM

A lot of tgp galleries have unlicenced content on them.

On-top · 11-15-2001, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks:
Alex, what is bullshit?

correct for 200

ROFLMAO!

TaDoW · 11-15-2001, 12:33 PM

haha :-)

SmutPimp ~I don't think they're concerned about unlicensed content here..

-TaDoW

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brocklanders · 11-15-2001, 12:33 PM

Bullshit is right. It's not illegal to *link* to copyrighted or illegal content, as dictated by our courts. Otherwise search engines would have been out of business a long time ago...

Wonder what the real reason is.

[This message has been edited by brocklanders (edited 11-15-2001).]

Matt · 11-15-2001, 12:39 PM

haha.. wonder what the real reason for closing down was. APIC doesn't have that power.. i've been threatened by them several times for running a porn message board. fools.

playa · 11-15-2001, 12:40 PM

well i am alittle worried bout the statement
"TGP's will be investigated"

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The Truth · 11-15-2001, 12:41 PM

Sounds like a hackers idea of a sick joke. I don't think APIC would post a message like that.

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Techie Media · 11-15-2001, 01:28 PM

Let me set the record straight before all of you make up your own theories about this.
Yes this morning, APIC has put enough pressure on absolute series to force him to close. The reason is that absolute series was linking to galleries with illegal content. Many of the galleries were actually created by absolute series and hosted on numerous free hosts.

The quest by APIC and content providers and sponsors, is to close down any and all sites that allow copyright violations to exist.

They will and already are investigating many free hosts and especially tgp's.

Please Note, it's not the free hosts that are causing this, it's the cheaters....

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Rip · 11-15-2001, 01:49 PM

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out

it's too bad, that there are so many cheaters out there

wildwalls · 11-15-2001, 02:04 PM

shit man they could at least put up my 404 error page ....imagine whats that worth today?

BrettJ · 11-15-2001, 03:30 PM

in A.S's case - if he was building infracting galleries - he is toast.

I don't think the legit webmaster has anything to fear. The sponsors (and yes I am one of them) contribute .. in part .. to the complexity of this problem.

As an owner of various tgps - we probably get 1000's of submissions a day - and on quick glance we check to see if the content looks good, if the pics open to larger images, and to make sure you aren't redirected.

But the sleugh of sponsors that give away free content makes it impossible for us to police the content - to decide whether it is illegal or not. It is this inherent impracticality that will prevent APIC and other crusaders from crucifying the Good and Decent webmaster.

Try to keep your nose clean, and don't worry about this drama that is floating around... cuz it won't effect you.

what do you think LF? If we aren't knownly thumbing our nose at copyrights...is there anything for us to be worried about???

~BrettJ

TFCash · 11-15-2001, 03:42 PM

BrettJ -

As a service provider you are only liable if you disregard any DMCA compliant notices that claim copyright infringement for images that are served from your network. My whole view on this is that Mr. Easton is full of hot air, and has never won a real court case concerning the DMCA. He likes to blow smoke up your ass, and threaten people, but other than that he doesn't really accomplish anything! I agree that copyright theft is wrong, but trying to go after ISP's & tgp owners when they comply with the law is not going to further his cause, it just gets a lot of people pissed off at him

Tim

Techie Media · 11-15-2001, 03:53 PM

I have spoke with Steve at APIC today in great length. He and I go way back) he is not a bad guy like some of you think. He works for the content providers and/or models etc..., which ultimately supply all of the paysites, and honest webmasters with their content. He is not out to harm anyone at all, rather to protect some of our rights, from cheaters.

Some of you are asking me why I'm even involved with this Absolute Series incident. Well the reason is simple, Absolute Series hosted MANY galleries of his own on my hosting, and yes, many of them had illegal content..

I also spoke with the owner of Absolute Series today (a long time friend of mine). He is a decent guy, but didn't listen to multiple warnings from both APIC and myself in regards to some of the content he was using. So as of this moment Absolute Series is closed down. As to the future of it, I can't comment on that, because it's not my business and I don't know...

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12clicks · 11-15-2001, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hardcorehosting:
BrettJ -

As a service provider you are only liable if you disregard any DMCA compliant notices that claim copyright infringement for images that are served from your network.
Tim

Are you saying that its ok to knowingly serve copyright infringing images as long as you don't get a complaint notice?

magnatique · 11-15-2001, 04:58 PM

I think if it's proven that the host knew about the illegality of the stuff and didn't act, they are toast..

so, no, it's ok to server illegal stuff as long as you don't know...

TheFLY · 11-15-2001, 05:19 PM

It's in Steve's best interest financially to bust sites like Absolute Series... So he's a sort of "opportunist hero" -- like a greedy Robin Hood -- ok I can deal with that...

Well at least we know now (at least I think we do) that Absolute Series was warned first... At first we were all led to believe that there was no warning given.

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quiet · 11-15-2001, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by magnatique:
I think if it's proven that the host knew about the illegality of the stuff and didn't act, they are toast..

so, no, it's ok to server illegal stuff as long as you don't know...

correct

and apic definitely likes to blow hot air

Techie Media · 11-15-2001, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheFLY:
It's in Steve's best interest financially to bust sites like Absolute Series... So he's a sort of "opportunist hero" -- like a greedy Robin Hood -- ok I can deal with that...

Well at least we know now (at least I think we do) that Absolute Series was warned first... At first we were all led to believe that there was no warning given.

?

Arent we all opportunists of some sort ??? Steve is only out catching cheaters, and yes I can assure you that Absolute Series was given more then ample warnings about the use of illegal content, not only by APIC, but by me personally.

Look Absolute Series is a friend that I've worked with and known for a long time, this whole incident was brought on only by his ignoring the warnings given to him. Lightning Free actually gave him fully licensed content to use on our hosting, and he still used stolen content.

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Kimmykim · 11-15-2001, 06:03 PM

It's a pretty cut and dry issue. You can pay for content now or you can PAY for content later.

Enough with the whining about a tgp being shut down -- this is a prime reason that people don't make as much as they did even a year ago.

If there were no more free shit -- freehosting, free content, free pictures -- we'd all make more money.

Surfers and broke ass kids without ten bucks who happen to have a computer are all so conditioned to everyone doing everything for free for them they don't know how to run a business. So what do they do?

I rest my case.

I wouldn't have been nearly so patient as Lightning was with this whole issue.

boneprone · 11-15-2001, 06:18 PM

fuck it nevermind.

Get info on your own.

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BruceM · 11-15-2001, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone:
Jesus just spoke to me.
He told me this was to happen.
Jesus told me that others are next.

Like Whoa was a word Jesus mumbled to me in my prayers today.

I wish them the best.

Jesus told me to tell you to GO FUCK YOURSELF!!!

boneprone · 11-15-2001, 06:31 PM

uhhh ok.
we shall see.

Dopy · 11-15-2001, 06:32 PM

There's one in every village.

TFCash · 11-16-2001, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks:

Are you saying that its ok to knowingly serve copyright infringing images as long as you don't get a complaint notice?

No 12clicks, I'm not. I just stated that your liability is none up to the point of a dmca complaint. If you decide to ignore it, and it is a valid complaint then you take your fate into your own hands, which is what it sounds like Absolute Series did! I think that most of the ISP's on this list will agree that there is no way that we can police the 1000's of sites that we host. If we had to, then your hosting bill would be much much more than it is. That was all I was commenting on

Tim

12clicks · 11-16-2001, 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by hardcorehosting:
No 12clicks, I'm not. I just stated that your liability is none up to the point of a dmca complaint. If you decide to ignore it, and it is a valid complaint then you take your fate into your own hands, which is what it sounds like Absolute Series did! I think that most of the ISP's on this list will agree that there is no way that we can police the 1000's of sites that we host. If we had to, then your hosting bill would be much much more than it is. That was all I was commenting on

Tim

Tim, my hosting bill wouldn't change one bit

12clicks · 11-16-2001, 07:16 AM

and fly, you continue to be on the wrong side of issues.
If you are against APIC and for the criminal use of copyrighted materials you should be shunned by your peers.

Or am I not understanding your position?

11-15-2001, 12:14 PM	#1
Lightning Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 870	Absolute Series Closes Big news...... http://www.absolut-series.com ------------------ Smiles

11-15-2001, 12:17 PM	#2
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	"THIS WEBSITE IS CLOSED DUE TO THE ILLEGAL LINKING TO AND POSTING OF CRIMINAL FREEHOSTING PAGES. TGP WEBSITES ARE BEING INVESTIGATED AND WILL BECOME EXTINCT DUE TO THE LIABILITY. Closed By APIC-WORLDWIDE " TGP websites are being investigated,, what are they talking about? ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 www.NoBSdialer.com GET FREE $50

11-15-2001, 12:18 PM	#3
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,786	Alex, what is bullshit? correct for 200

11-15-2001, 12:19 PM	#4
SexyJo Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Foxy State Posts: 49	Wow, absolut was pretty big too, hm quite odd. I think its implying some of the freehost had some illegal content in their servers , and they caught absolut linking to these servers ? thats messed up ------------------ ~stop looking at my breasts !

11-15-2001, 12:26 PM	#5
SmutPimp Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Our hoes pay taxes and pot is legal :-) Posts: 39	A lot of tgp galleries have unlicenced content on them.

11-15-2001, 12:33 PM	#7
TaDoW Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Where It Rains Posts: 3,875	haha :-) SmutPimp ~I don't think they're concerned about unlicensed content here.. -TaDoW [This message has been edited by TaDoW (edited 11-15-2001).]

11-15-2001, 12:33 PM	#8
brocklanders Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 297	Bullshit is right. It's not illegal to link to copyrighted or illegal content, as dictated by our courts. Otherwise search engines would have been out of business a long time ago... Wonder what the real reason is. [This message has been edited by brocklanders (edited 11-15-2001).]

11-15-2001, 12:39 PM	#9
Matt Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 173	haha.. wonder what the real reason for closing down was. APIC doesn't have that power.. i've been threatened by them several times for running a porn message board. fools.

11-15-2001, 12:40 PM	#10
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	well i am alittle worried bout the statement "TGP's will be investigated" ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 www.NoBSdialer.com GET FREE $50

11-15-2001, 12:41 PM	#11
The Truth Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: U.S.of A. Posts: 920	Sounds like a hackers idea of a sick joke. I don't think APIC would post a message like that. ------------------ Make $$$ the Diabolical Way

11-15-2001, 01:28 PM	#12
Techie Media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,092	Let me set the record straight before all of you make up your own theories about this. Yes this morning, APIC has put enough pressure on absolute series to force him to close. The reason is that absolute series was linking to galleries with illegal content. Many of the galleries were actually created by absolute series and hosted on numerous free hosts. The quest by APIC and content providers and sponsors, is to close down any and all sites that allow copyright violations to exist. They will and already are investigating many free hosts and especially tgp's. Please Note, it's not the free hosts that are causing this, it's the cheaters.... ------------------ Smile and Be Happy Lightning Free Hosting Gay Free Hosting Girls Host

11-15-2001, 01:49 PM	#13
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	It will be interesting to see how this all plays out it's too bad, that there are so many cheaters out there

11-15-2001, 02:04 PM	#14
wildwalls Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 39	shit man they could at least put up my 404 error page ....imagine whats that worth today?

11-15-2001, 03:30 PM	#15
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	in A.S's case - if he was building infracting galleries - he is toast. I don't think the legit webmaster has anything to fear. The sponsors (and yes I am one of them) contribute .. in part .. to the complexity of this problem. As an owner of various tgps - we probably get 1000's of submissions a day - and on quick glance we check to see if the content looks good, if the pics open to larger images, and to make sure you aren't redirected. But the sleugh of sponsors that give away free content makes it impossible for us to police the content - to decide whether it is illegal or not. It is this inherent impracticality that will prevent APIC and other crusaders from crucifying the Good and Decent webmaster. Try to keep your nose clean, and don't worry about this drama that is floating around... cuz it won't effect you. what do you think LF? If we aren't knownly thumbing our nose at copyrights...is there anything for us to be worried about??? ~BrettJ

11-15-2001, 03:42 PM	#16
TFCash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 1,738	BrettJ - As a service provider you are only liable if you disregard any DMCA compliant notices that claim copyright infringement for images that are served from your network. My whole view on this is that Mr. Easton is full of hot air, and has never won a real court case concerning the DMCA. He likes to blow smoke up your ass, and threaten people, but other than that he doesn't really accomplish anything! I agree that copyright theft is wrong, but trying to go after ISP's & tgp owners when they comply with the law is not going to further his cause, it just gets a lot of people pissed off at him Tim

11-15-2001, 03:53 PM	#17
Techie Media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,092	I have spoke with Steve at APIC today in great length. He and I go way back) he is not a bad guy like some of you think. He works for the content providers and/or models etc..., which ultimately supply all of the paysites, and honest webmasters with their content. He is not out to harm anyone at all, rather to protect some of our rights, from cheaters. Some of you are asking me why I'm even involved with this Absolute Series incident. Well the reason is simple, Absolute Series hosted MANY galleries of his own on my hosting, and yes, many of them had illegal content.. I also spoke with the owner of Absolute Series today (a long time friend of mine). He is a decent guy, but didn't listen to multiple warnings from both APIC and myself in regards to some of the content he was using. So as of this moment Absolute Series is closed down. As to the future of it, I can't comment on that, because it's not my business and I don't know... ------------------ Smile and Be Happy Lightning Free Hosting Gay Free Hosting Girls Host

11-15-2001, 04:58 PM	#19
magnatique Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,830	I think if it's proven that the host knew about the illegality of the stuff and didn't act, they are toast.. so, no, it's ok to server illegal stuff as long as you don't know...

11-15-2001, 05:19 PM	#20
TheFLY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: http://www.thefly.net/ --- Quit your job and live off steady traffic. Posts: 11,856	It's in Steve's best interest financially to bust sites like Absolute Series... So he's a sort of "opportunist hero" -- like a greedy Robin Hood -- ok I can deal with that... Well at least we know now (at least I think we do) that Absolute Series was warned first... At first we were all led to believe that there was no warning given. ? ------------------ <A HREF="http://www.thefly.net/topfly.html" TARGET=_blank> </A>Oh Baby! TheFLY.net

11-15-2001, 06:03 PM	#23
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	It's a pretty cut and dry issue. You can pay for content now or you can PAY for content later. Enough with the whining about a tgp being shut down -- this is a prime reason that people don't make as much as they did even a year ago. If there were no more free shit -- freehosting, free content, free pictures -- we'd all make more money. Surfers and broke ass kids without ten bucks who happen to have a computer are all so conditioned to everyone doing everything for free for them they don't know how to run a business. So what do they do? I rest my case. I wouldn't have been nearly so patient as Lightning was with this whole issue.

11-15-2001, 06:18 PM	#24
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	fuck it nevermind. Get info on your own. [This message has been edited by boneprone (edited 11-15-2001).]

11-15-2001, 06:31 PM	#26
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	uhhh ok. we shall see.

11-15-2001, 06:32 PM	#27
Dopy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Puerto Del Carmen, Lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 1,572	There's one in every village.

11-16-2001, 07:16 AM	#30
12clicks Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: God's right hand Posts: 19,786	and fly, you continue to be on the wrong side of issues. If you are against APIC and for the criminal use of copyrighted materials you should be shunned by your peers. Or am I not understanding your position?