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Old 09-07-2004, 02:13 PM   #1
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Legendary Lars Vs. The Noobs !

Now I dont normally Post Icq Logs, but I find it so funny when Noob Sales guys come and try to get me to put up links to other live cam companies. I cant really point fingers cuzz we have prolly done the same and will prolly do it again, cuzz its hard to know who your talking to, but given my ICQ handle is lars ya think this guy would know who he was talking to. I run pornochicks.com and this is what he was pitching me....

I feel bad I played with the sales person for so long but I could not help it I was laughing hysterically after every post. I have edited his icq number to protect his identity


89502: Hi There,
I was checking out your site pornochicks, and I think we can do some good business together, let me know when you get online
2593795: ok what ya wanna do ?
89502: Hi
Have you promoted any of the pussycash sites in the past?
2593795: no I have not
89502: I have seen that your site is promoting adult matchmaking and webcam sites, an we have many of them on pussycash
2593795: yeah but legendary lars pays $70 PPS and adultfriendfinder is the ruler of all dating sites
89502: I'm sure that you can make more money promoting them then any of the sites that you are promoting now.
2593795: Hmm I doubt it
2593795: you should send your traffic to legendary lars he kicks ass
2593795: and adultfriendfinder pays more than anyone
89502: We pay $65 per signup till the 15th, and when lars is going down to $25 per signup on the 16th I'll keep you on $40
2593795: hmm I think lars will match the 40 and better
89502: I don't think so how much was he paying you before the 20th?
2593795: conversion is more than payout !
2593795: if he outsells you 2 to 1 then he is paying $50 per signup
89502: that is for sure, and I can tell you that I haven't found one webmaster that have told me that he is doing better with lars
2593795: huh thats funny I have had several tell me pussycash conversion blows and that legendary does far better
2593795: prolly they ar eboth good and just different traffic works well on different sites
89502: The only way to check it out is, if you will test it.
I'll tell you what, do your math and I'll buy from you a $1000 PPC
89502: you can't ask for more
89502: Take 1 cent more then you make with lars
2593795: nope ya sure cant I will ask legendary to pay me 1050 PPC
89502: If you are so sure that you can't make more money with me, then have a good day, but I think that if you are a business men, you can't really pass an opertunity to check us out without the chance to lose money
2593795: I am sure legendary and friendfinder beat pussycash any day of the week on my traffic
89502: Just do your math, tell me how much you make with Lars and I'll pay you 1 cent per click more then he does
2593795: margin war is on I see
2593795: everyone will send the cam margins to crap pushing the profit to 0 hehehe
89502: no margin war, I can tell you that we came up with the $65 per signup on the 16th, and he started his $70 on the 20th
2593795: yes but he was runnin g $50 befor eyou were running $65 so you came second
2593795: he did $50 for all of august
89502: I didn't even checked it out, and I really don't care about how much he is paying.
I think that a site like yours can promote more then one program at the same time, if he wouldlike to miximize his traffic
2593795: that is true you can promote several cam sites at a time..
89502: so how about testing us?
2593795: Na I think I am good right now but thanks anyway
89502: ok have nice day
2593795: k you too
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:15 PM   #2
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:16 PM   #3
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That is funny as shit.

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Old 09-07-2004, 02:16 PM   #4
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Now that is funny.
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:16 PM   #5
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:19 PM   #6
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:21 PM   #7
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fine, i won't icq you anymore
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:23 PM   #8
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fine, i won't icq you anymore

hahahahahaha
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:25 PM   #9
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All I can say is......OUCH!
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:30 PM   #10
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:32 PM   #11
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:35 PM   #12
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Oh that's too funny.

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Old 09-07-2004, 02:37 PM   #13
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89502: I didn't even checked it out, and I really don't care about how much he is paying.
Don't you just love it when these marketing guys do their research.

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Old 09-07-2004, 02:38 PM   #14
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Where do companies find these morons? It seems I have to deal with one of them every single goddam day myself...
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:42 PM   #15
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Where do companies find these morons? It seems I have to deal with one of them every single goddam day myself...
Its very painfull.. but I am sure sean pisses some people off and mee too ya ahve to to be a good salesperson.. but with my icq sayign lars ya think the person woulda said hrrrrm. LOL
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:53 PM   #16
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LOL nice chat, I have talked with the rep, and I can tell you that there is no name on the ICQ account, just something for you to check.



I really think that he had done some nice work here, after all you can see that he was offering a win win situation for both parties

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89502: Just do your math, tell me how much you make with Lars and I'll pay you 1 cent per click more then he does



I don't think that he was trying to get a bad name for your program as well, so no harm done.



And he wasn't giving up even after he saw that this is not someone that is looking to make more money



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I think that a site like yours can promote more then one program at the same time, if he would like to maximize his traffic

2593795: that is true you can promote several cam sites at a time..

89502: so how about testing us?

2593795: Na I think I am good right now but thanks anyway

89502: ok have nice day

2593795: k you too
So the final point is that I don't really think you can call him a nooby
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LOL nice chat, I have talked with the rep, and I can tell you that there is no name on the ICQ account, just something for you to check.



I really think that he had done some nice work here, after all you can see that he was offering a win win situation for both parties





I don't think that he was trying to get a bad name for your program as well, so no harm done.



And he wasn't giving up even after he saw that this is not someone that is looking to make more money

Yup its all good. Was a nice laugh in the morning.. could be lars does not show up until it gets authorized or something...
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I don't think that he was trying to get a bad name for your program as well, so no harm done.

i dont think that he was trying to give a bad name to Streamray either, but when i run across someone that is using a different cam program than ours, i dont ask them to switch or outbid the other guy by a cent. at the most, i say that if they ever want to try us, or try a second company.

i think that is one of the reasons that we get alone with barry and gunner so well. i never ask anyone to take down their links and put ours up
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i dont think that he was trying to give a bad name to Streamray either, but when i run across someone that is using a different cam program than ours, i dont ask them to switch or outbid the other guy by a cent. at the most, i say that if they ever want to try us, or try a second company.

i think that is one of the reasons that we get alone with barry and gunner so well. i never ask anyone to take down their links and put ours up
I don't see anywhere a text about taking streamray down and using Imlive instead.

But I do see him talking about using more then one program on a site.

Any way if Lars think that we are in a margin war, I can tell you that we are not.

During the few years that I have spent in this industry, I have noticed one thing. There is traffic out there for everyone, no need to get into margin war to get it to your site.

The $65 campaign wasn't a replay to something that you did, and I don't think that you can say the same thing regarding the $70 campaign.

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I don't see anywhere a text about taking streamray down and using Imlive instead.
"89502: If you are so sure that you can't make more money with me, then have a good day"

i could be looking at that wrong
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i think that is one of the reasons that we get alone with barry and gunner so well. i never ask anyone to take down their links and put ours up
Really? Now I feel bad for asking all my affiliates to ban you.

Actually, I get along well with most of my competition. I know Lars gets along with MOST too . I don't know anybody at PussyCash yet but I'm looking forward to meeting them.

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The $65 campaign wasn't a replay to something that you did, and I don't think that you can say the same thing regarding the $70 campaign.
there was an edit to that post that i miss.

we bumped our payputs, then right after that you did.
so i guess that we COULD say the same thing about the $70 we are paying out right now.


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"89502: If you are so sure that you can't make more money with me, then have a good day"

i could be looking at that wrong
I guess you do, more money is not insted.

If you're promoting 2 programs on your site, and not just one, you can make more money without taking off one of them

Any way I'm not into pissing war here, and if you feel like we where trying to fuck you, then all I can say is that next time we will be more clear about what we mean by saying more money
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Really? Now I feel bad for asking all my affiliates to ban you.

Actually, I get along well with most of my competition. I know Lars gets along with MOST too I've been getting to know most of them recently, and I haven't met any I don't like. I don't know anybody at PussyCash yet but I'm looking forward to meeting them.

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you are such a "ban us" liar right now. i think that i saw lars with your tshirt on the other day and a his fubar hat. its hard to tell who that guy works for. in fact i dont know if i have ever seen him in a legendary lars shirt.

i still have not met anyone from pussycash either
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Really? Now I feel bad for asking all my affiliates to ban you.

Actually, I get along well with most of my competition. I know Lars gets along with MOST too . I don't know anybody at PussyCash yet but I'm looking forward to meeting them.

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Well, I have nothing bad to say about Lars as well, I meat him at the Internext, and he seems like a nice guy

And if you want to get together, we will be sponsoring the dolphin swim adventure during the www.jetsetgetaway.com

So I'll be more then Happy to meet you there if you are going to make it.

The same goes for you Sean
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I don't see anywhere a text about taking streamray down and using Imlive instead.

But I do see him talking about using more then one program on a site.

Any way if Lars think that we are in a margin war, I can tell you that we are not.

During the few years that I have spent in this industry, I have noticed one thing. There is traffic out there for everyone, no need to get into margin war to get it to your site.

The $65 campaign wasn't a replay to something that you did, and I don't think that you can say the same thing regarding the $70 campaign.

umm I think its pretty clear we did a $50 summer madness program for all of august..

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...mer +maddness

then you guys did $65 summer madness using the same wording in mid august.. so i went $70 right after that.
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umm I think its pretty clear we did a $50 summer madness program for all of august..

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...mer +maddness

then you guys did $65 summer madness using the same wording in mid august.. so i went $70 right after that.
Everyone was doing an August madness campaign, I can show you another 3 programs that were doing it as well.

You can believe what I have to say, but I can't make you.

We made a decision to run the $65 campaign, with no relation to anything you did

The only reason for the $65 campaign, was to get the affiliate from Internext to get us up and running after the show, so that I don't need to wait 3 months to see all the talking getting into actions
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Everyone was doing an August madness campaign, I can show you another 3 programs that were doing it as well.

You can believe what I have to say, but I can't make you.

We made a decision to run the $65 campaign, with no relation to anything you did

The only reason for the $65 campaign, was to get the affiliate from Internext to get us up and running after the show, so that I don't need to wait 3 months to see all the talking getting into actions
Yeah I hear ya internext only comes 2 times a year
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And I hear ya how many times do people say I will do this at the show and then never do !

anyway I will take you on your word that your summer madness had nothing to do with my summer madness.
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explain this 'margin war' thing. how does that work?
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Yeah I hear ya internext only comes 2 times a year
I'm not sure if you have the same issue, after all we had a booth in Miami.

And I can tell you that from the 8 times that I have been to the show, it is always about talking. When we need to get the webmasters to act, it take them a few weeks if not months to get things rolling, and I'm sure that everyone that had a booth will tell you the same.


So this time we just told them that after the show we will run a $65 campaign, so that they will have the incentive to get back home and put up those links.

If you were thinking that we have uploaded the campaign in order to get into a pissing contest I guess that you don't know anything about pussycash.

Ask around and you will see that we are not about pissing contests at all, but then again don't try to test us
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I'm not sure if you have the same issue, after all we had a booth in Miami.

And I can tell you that from the 8 times that I have been to the show, it is always about talking. When we need to get the webmasters to act, it take them a few weeks if not months to get things rolling, and I'm sure that everyone that had a booth will tell you the same.


So this time we just told them that after the show we will run a $65 campaign, so that they will have the incentive to get back home and put up those links.

If you were thinking that we have uploaded the campaign in order to get into a pissing contest I guess that you don't know anything about pussycash.

Ask around and you will see that we are not about pissing contests at all, but then again don't try to test us
LOL streamray has had several booths at past internext, I just did not feel it was a good return on investment ! Are you saying that since I did not have a booth that I am somehow less than ? Are you saying everyone there who has a program that did not have a booth is somehow less than ?
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explain this 'margin war' thing. how does that work?
just think back to the days Xpics was raising PPC payouts went from 10 cents a click to 36 cents a click LOL all the sponsors lost out on margin and the traffic senders won because payouts went way up !!
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LOL streamray has had several booths at past internext, I just did not feel it was a good return on investment ! Are you saying that since I did not have a booth that I am somehow less than ? Are you saying everyone there who has a program that did not have a booth is somehow less than ?
Where do you see me saying something like that?

I wasn't sure if you had the same issue, as we did. I have been to a few shows that we had no booth in them, and I can tell you that I did less talking and much more business, that was the main point

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Where do you see me saying something like that?

I wasn't sure if you had the same issue, as we did, I have been to a few shows that we had no booth in them, and I can tell you that I did less talking and much more business, that was the main point
Ahh kewl sorry I misunderstood...


Yes I get more biz done not having a booth !

I like shows like Phoenix forum... no booths...

more biz
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Old 09-07-2004, 03:50 PM   #39
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Ahh kewl sorry I misunderstood...


Yes I get more biz done not having a booth !

I like shows like Phoenix forum... no booths...

more biz
So I guess I'll see you in Curacao, unless you are going into a pissing contest with yourself, and will give all your cash to the webmasters

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Old 09-07-2004, 03:51 PM   #40
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Old 09-07-2004, 03:55 PM   #41
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So I guess I'll see you in Curacao, unless you are going into a pissing contest with yourself, and will give all your cash to the webmasters
No more travel for me for a wile too many irons in the fire.
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Old 09-07-2004, 03:56 PM   #42
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One time I had a Verio rep telling me that my host had a terrible reputation and were always down - and that I should switch to Verio.

She continued to belittle my host and to tell me how much better verio was - and never realized that she was telling me how bad my own service was - and never realized it. After I made her whois the domain and then match that with the provider, she apologized. What an idiot.
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Old 09-07-2004, 03:56 PM   #43
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No more travel for me for a wile too many irons in the fire.
So I guess Sean is going to enjoy this one
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Old 09-07-2004, 03:59 PM   #44
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One time I had a Verio rep telling me that my host had a terrible reputation and were always down - and that I should switch to Verio.

She continued to belittle my host and to tell me how much better verio was - and never realized that she was telling me how bad my own service was - and never realized it. After I made her whois the domain and then match that with the provider, she apologized. What an idiot.

hahahah that fuckign ruleZ!
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Old 09-07-2004, 04:03 PM   #45
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Hey Lars ...
I've got a beer buzz on now ...
just curious though ...

Would you reactivate my affiliate program and/or state why you cancelled it.

Actually, for the record - including the fact I admit I have a beer buzz on.

?
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Old 09-07-2004, 04:06 PM   #46
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just think back to the days Xpics was raising PPC payouts went from 10 cents a click to 36 cents a click LOL all the sponsors lost out on margin and the traffic senders won because payouts went way up !!
thank you
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Old 09-07-2004, 04:09 PM   #47
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So I guess Sean is going to enjoy this one
Curacao? did that just get pummeled by weather again?

if the show is on, i will take elli out with me this year and make sure not to miss it again. i dont know about going into the water.
fish have sex in there.

but then again, we do like to give away money.
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Curacao? did that just get pummeled by weather again?

if the show is on, i will take elli out with me this year and make sure not to miss it again. i dont know about going into the water.
fish have sex in there.

but then again, we do like to give away money.
OooOoO I get to go to Curacao??

*buzzing with excitement*
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Old 09-07-2004, 10:53 PM   #49
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oh my god - i almost PISSED myself reading that.

awesome
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