CCBILL sponsor drama?

[extreme]

So, I have Alot of CCBILL accounts. Went through most of them tonight, checking for that old pesky 0-rebill setting that's been discussed on GFY earlier. Ofcourse a 0-rebill-setting isn't in itself wrong. But then the sponsor should state so on their page. (or at least Not state that the webmaster do get Recurring).

This is the mismatches I found. Im not saying anybody is shaving here, but there seems to be some missmatching info to say the least. Could you take a look at what ccbill gives you for these sponsors?

I've tried to include quite some info for each sponsor so it should be easy to check up on for others, here goes:

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From http://www.kscans.com/en_webmaster.php:
At K Cash we offer a 50/50% affiliate partnership on new and recurring membership subscriptions.

From CCBILL:
Webmaster Program: Kcash_KSCANS_SINGLE (921345-0000)
Payout Percent: 30.00%
Payout Flat-Rate: $0.00
Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills


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From http://www.sexypayouts.com/main.htm:
Sexy Payouts offers you a partner share of 60% ongoing net revenue for each member you refer.

from CCBILL:
Webmaster Program: Sexypayouts.com Revenue Sharing (904942-0000)
Payout Percent: 60.00%
Payout Flat-Rate: $0.00
Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills


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From http://www.thetigersden.net/webmaster/index.php:
TigrLily's Cash! - 50% Sign Up & Recurring

From CCBILL:
Webmaster Program: TigerLily's Cash (926240-0002)
Payout Flat-Rate: $0.00
Payout Percent: 50.00%
Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills


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From http://www.rgcash.com/:
Q: What Means "50 to 70% Partnership" ?
A: .- If your earnings are less than $120* per week, you receive 50% from All Sales and Rebills.

From CCBILL:
Payout Flat-Rate: $0.00
Payout Percent: 50.00%
Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills


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From http://www.erotiscore.com/:
50% Initial Sign Ups 50% Recurring
8% webmaster refferal

From CCBILL:
Webmaster Program: KumiMonster Kash (926240-0001)
Payout Percent: 50.00%
Payout Flat-Rate: $0.00
Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

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This one confused me abit, anyone that can clear this one up?

From http://clubjk.com/index.php?show=home:
60% on Sales, 60 % on Rebills

From CCBILL:
Webmaster Program: ClubJK.com affiliate program (924037-0000)
Payout Percent: 60.00%
Payout Flat-Rate: $0.00
Payments for Rebills End After: (1) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (99) rebills



If there's any misstakes in the above list, please point them out and accept my appologies.

[pornguy]

WOW. I am surprised that anyone has done that this was a major thing about 8 months ago.

[TheSenator]

Damn, I have to review all my CCBill accounts now. Thanks for the reminder.

[extreme]

Sigh, the URLs are non-working cause of the extra ":" I added to each one, here's a working clickable list of the sponsore mentioned above:

http://www.kscans.com/en_webmaster.php
http://www.sexypayouts.com/main.htm
http://www.thetigersden.net/webmaster/index.php
http://www.rgcash.com/
http://www.erotiscore.com/
http://clubjk.com/index.php?show=home

[Paparazzi]

this is fucked up. I remember the drama and "the glitch" comments...guess I have some work to do

[crockett]

Dunno if maybe they saw it and changed it or if it's a real glitch.. (which would be real fast like less than 10 mins)

But I just checked clubjk.com and mine is : Payments for Rebills End After: (99) rebills Which I think everyone agrees is as good as unlimited being a CC card will expire b4 99 rebills come.

[extreme]

Originally Posted by crockett

Dunno if maybe they saw it and changed it or if it's a real glitch..

But I just checked clubjk.com and mine is : Payments for Rebills End After: (99) rebills Which I think everyone agrees is as good as unlimited being a CC card will expire b4 99 rebills come.

Right, i agree, as I wrote in my first post that info confused me some:
Payments for Rebills End After: (1) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (99) rebills


What's the different between thoose 2 fields?

[crockett]

Originally Posted by extreme

Right, i agree, as I wrote in my first post that info confused me some:
Payments for Rebills End After: (1) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (99) rebills


What's the different between thoose 2 fields?

well this is what mine shows..

Payout Percent: 50.00%
Signup Date: 08/16/2005 Payout Flat-Rate: $0.00
Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (99) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (99) rebills
Bonuses: No bonuses

so it looks legit on my end

[extreme]

Originally Posted by crockett

well this is what mine shows..

Payout Percent: 50.00%
Signup Date: 08/16/2005 Payout Flat-Rate: $0.00
Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (99) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (99) rebills
Bonuses: No bonuses

so it looks legit on my end

Oh, the text "Trial Subscriptions:" was missing from my posts, but doesn't change much, I have this for ClubJK:

Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (1) rebills

[zigx]

extreme

Thank you for bringing this up man... i think there is a glitch or something because looking @ the setup via the ccbill webadmin it says i should be paying out lifetime rebills.


I recently bought clubjk.com and all network sites.... first thing i did was switch to lifetime rebills (99) and i THINK what may have happened is any new accounts after i made the change got lifetime rebills but the old accts were never updated. I will contact CCBill right now...

and thank you for bringing this to my attention. if you icq me ill bump ur payout to 100% in thanks... but only for 1 month (just kidding of course)

[zigx]

my icq: 159-342-699

[extreme]

Talked to zigx and it's in the process of beeing worked out, whatever it now was and if it even mattered (the trial subscription setting). It was the one on my first list that I wasn't so certain it was "wrong" in the first place. But the difference from crockets setting wasn't good ofcourse.

[chadglni]

Originally Posted by zigx

extreme


and thank you for bringing this to my attention. if you icq me ill bump ur payout to 100% in thanks... but only for 1 month (just kidding of course)

[SKULL]

Ahhh .. lets all go back and check ..

[ALOTI]

I was just asked about my settings by a guy running a CCBill handled program I promote. They all have the (0) setting. If I remember correctly, a few years back I was helping Asian4You transition from GloBill to CCBill. The question was asked about the "0" thing. At that time they said the zero was a "null' or "default" that resulted in unlimited rebills. Correct me if I am wrong.

ALOTI

[corbu]

I just contacted ccbill to double check but my stuff is good the rep even checked some of the affiliates and all are set to recieve rebills under the basic features in the initial setup

erotiscore.com and all sites under it are fine.
such as kumimonster.com, thetigersden.net, hell-kitten.com, and sexysatomi.com are ALL FINE

spoke some of the affiliates and they are getting their rebills.
next time contact me directly please before posting online.

if you have any questions contact me right now

[corbu]

yep all fine!

[kscans]

Hi guys,

we have just checked all our Kcash payout program and we pay 50% for refferal sales and 50% for recurring life time long

Because of this we would appreciate not to post such stories about Kscash !

Kindest regards
George
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[Dirty Dane]

Isnt it supposed to say:

"Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills"

[zigx]

guys, FYI from ccbill:

Any affiliates that signed up before you changed to unlimited rebills will not automatically switch to the new payout setup. The easiest way to make sure all old affiliates are getting paid on all rebills will be to set up a new group in the affiliates section and add all your old affiliates to that group. The options set up on the group will override the payout option set for the individual affiliate. Below are links to setting up groups and editing group payouts:

About setting up Affiliate grouping: http://ccbillhelp.ccbill.com/content...dmin_affil.htm
Edit Affiliate group payouts: http://ccbillhelp.ccbill.com/content/grp_edit_affil.htm

I have updated all affiliates into a new group as specified. Please make sure ur good now.

[Dirty Dane]

Originally Posted by zigx

guys, FYI from ccbill:

I have updated all affiliates into a new group as specified. Please make sure ur good now.

Hmm .. looks like for the percentage payout too on some programs I just checked. In general that means each affiliate have to check by themself and contact the program if its not "up to date".

[Dirty Dane]

... and either way, it should be the program's responsibility to know how it works and to update for all.

[chris454660]

hey kscans do you know teh difference between 30% & 50% wankers

[Dirty Dane]

Originally Posted by chris454660

hey kscans do you know teh difference between 30% & 50% wankers

It says 30%/zero rebills in my account too

[chris454660]

time to go through and clear out the ccbill accounts.

looks like superlicious is another culprit

[kscans]

Hi guys,

we have checked our programs and everything looks fine.

As we have written before after all SIGNUPS 50% and you will get 50% recurring for life time !


Kindest regards
George
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[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I love how European guys do it.

So non confrontational.

[chris454660]

mmm....definatley looks like a 300 to me, perhaps i need laser eye surgery

[chris454660]

looks like i do, thats should have been a 30

[Dirty Dane]

[gothicandrum]

It is not the first time kscans have played dirty tricks

[DutchTeenCash]

Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

hmm owned Id say.

I checked DTC and yes it spose to say

Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills

[kscans]

Can anybody tells us why you didnt notify us about this mistake before?

We would have appreciated this very much !

Anyway the CCBILL stats must say now 50% and 50% recurring .

kind regards
George

[rogerbo]

did check mine and have the same for
From http://www.rgcash.com/:

From CCBILL:
Payout Flat-Rate: $0.00
Payout Percent: 50.00%
Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills

[kscans]

ok thanks.

hope now works everything fine .

kindest regards
George
Kcash

[Global-X]

Here's more cheaters :
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=560571

By the way, unlimited rebills is default so anything else is intentionally changed, an error my ass

[bopha]

Our program does pay rebills. This is our screencap from our website.


We have double checked our program and our settings as well.

As someone mentioned earlier, changes made to the program will not automatically update.

[extreme]

Morning. To the sponsors I haven't contacted directly, Im sorry. As I stated I wasn't accusing anyone of shaving, I wanted to see what other webmasters had. If this mismatch has a good reason Im sure it will come out in the open, which would then benefit all webmasters (since Im not the only one with this "problem").

The Majority of my ccbill accs (and I have ALOT) has this:
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills"

I went through everyone of them and found 5 of them (the first I listed on my initial post) that had this:
Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills
(have the same settings today)

ClubJK has been fixed:
Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Unlimited) rebills

Thanks zigx / ClubJK for the good attitude in this matter and the mailing with CCBILL! ... Im still waiting for my 100% though ;)

[extreme]

Originally Posted by kscans

Can anybody tells us why you didnt notify us about this mistake before?

We would have appreciated this very much !

Anyway the CCBILL stats must say now 50% and 50% recurring .

kind regards
George

What's your ICQ?

[Dirty Dane]

Originally Posted by extreme

Morning. To the sponsors I haven't contacted directly, Im sorry. As I stated I wasn't accusing anyone of shaving, I wanted to see what other webmasters had. If this mismatch has a good reason Im sure it will come out in the open, which would then benefit all webmasters (since Im not the only one with this "problem").

Thanks for taking it to the board
.

[kscans]

Hi guys,

just read all comments about our Kcash program .

George our acconting manager has tried to answer all your questions hopefully.

If anybody want to contact me directly feel free to contact me through ICQ : 26540736

Kindest regards
Frankie
Kcash
www_Kcans_com

[chris454660]

yeah good attitude Zigx well done...otehrs good learn from your example

[chris454660]

Originally Posted by kscans

ok thanks.

hope now works everything fine .

kindest regards
George
Kcash

no you lose

[kscans]

by the way all new webmasters are welcome for our Kcash program for 50% payouts and 50 recurring for life time.

We offer these programs right now :


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Kind regards
Kcash

[sfera]

sup dude

[extreme]

Originally Posted by bopha

Our program does pay rebills. This is our screencap from our website.


We have double checked our program and our settings as well.

As someone mentioned earlier, changes made to the program will not automatically update.

All these settings are individual for each affiliate ofcourse.
But isn't it YOUR job to make sure they're correct for all affiliates?
If they don't update automatically then you should perhaps ask ccbill to fix it.

I'm still at "Trial Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills Recurring Subscriptions: Payments for Rebills End After: (Zero) rebills"

[kscans]

Dear webmasters,

we will double check this in few hours with CCBILL again !

Hope they can help us ASAP .

Anway anybody can contact me directly through ICQ : 26540736 .

kindest regards

[CCBill Paul]

Posted above:

Any affiliates that signed up before you changed to unlimited rebills will not automatically switch to the new payout setup. The easiest way to make sure all old affiliates are getting paid on all rebills will be to set up a new group in the affiliates section and add all your old affiliates to that group. The options set up on the group will override the payout option set for the individual affiliate. Below are links to setting up groups and editing group payouts:

About setting up Affiliate grouping: http://ccbillhelp.ccbill.com/content...dmin_affil.htm
Edit Affiliate group payouts: http://ccbillhelp.ccbill.com/content/grp_edit_affil.htm


This is absolutely correct and if anyone has any further problems or questions please contact us directly:

800-510-2859
[email protected]

-Paul

[kscans]

one more comment :

we are not intressted and not stupid to screw up all our current and future affliliate partners.

We are intressted to make only long term business with old and new promotion partners.

kind regards

[rowan]

It would be REALLY nice if,

(a) ccbill let you search for unusual program parameters, ie "show me all programs that do not have unlimited rebills" or "show me all programs that do not pay 50%"

(b) they send an automated email each time your affiliate account's parms are changed. Right now I have to manually click on 80+ different sponsors to check if they've quietly changed something.