Whats up with all these $75 days. How... - GoFuckYourself.com

pisdets2002 · 04-30-2002, 10:27 PM

How exactly are companies making profit will all these $75 and $100 days. I understand that it a way of attracting webmasters to their program, but aren't they ultimately the looser? Another problem in my mind about these "special" days is: aren't the webmasters going to have the tendency to cheat or use somekind of methods to increase their signups besides regular old promotion. And the last 2 question : 1. When does a company deside that they are going to promote such an event; is it when they see that their competition is doing it or when they have reached a growth stagnation or when they just want to give out free money? 2. Have there been any known instances where a company promoting such a day went bankrupt?

vidsweb · 04-30-2002, 10:28 PM

I think every day should be a $75 day

picpile · 04-30-2002, 10:28 PM

its a loss leader. wal-mart sells slim fast at a loss every day of the year to get people in the door.

kenny · 04-30-2002, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by vidsweb
I think every day should be a $75 day

The Truth · 04-30-2002, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by picpile
its a loss leader. wal-mart sells slim fast at a loss every day of the year to get people in the door.

and god knows the people in wal-mart need their slim fast.

GTS Mark · 04-30-2002, 10:37 PM

It's pretty straight forward. Topbucks decided to have an instantaneous $70 payout day because they are having a real bad fucking month... Think about it? Why else would they decide at the end of the month to do this? Hmmmm... To stimulate sales and hopefully get some good recurring going to cover the $70 payouts... Plus get some new people in the door.

ARS is doing a similar thing but in my opinion they are doing this to keep the masses in check as they are having people screaming at them for their stats program as of late.

All I can say is that my stats with Topbucks have gone to hell in a handbasket. 0:4200 in the past two weeks... And ARS ain't much better...

Just my

DH

SNOW · 04-30-2002, 10:43 PM

TRY ME TRY ME

SNOW-Director of Marketing

AWC · 04-30-2002, 11:20 PM

$75.00 days is another way of warning webmasters that the shaver got turned up to HIGH.

pisdets2002 · 04-30-2002, 11:36 PM

Thats the question I forgot to ask or really didn't know how to. Are programs more likely to shave sign ups in order to recoupe some of their losses? If so, is their goal to minimize the payment to what it regularly is or is it to minimize the payment period?

Lev · 04-30-2002, 11:39 PM

Hey Pizda read this article, it's about shaving

http://www.pornresource.com/article.php?aid=572

bdld · 04-30-2002, 11:49 PM

they make a big profit off the regular sign-ups every day of the year, they probably dont make a profit or make very little off these 75/su days. they can afford it

Petr · 05-01-2002, 12:11 AM

Actually, we are having $75 day TODAY to give webmasters a reason to try out our program.... Webmasters usually need a good reason to join a new program and/or to change their links and these special signup days COULD convince them to do it...

Wiredoctor · 05-01-2002, 12:45 AM

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Originally posted by picpile
its a loss leader. wal-mart sells slim fast at a loss every day of the year to get people in the door.

Exactly...well said, and a little extra shaving to go with it

FlyingIguana · 05-01-2002, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by picpile
its a loss leader. wal-mart sells slim fast at a loss every day of the year to get people in the door.

thats to help all the fat people walk around the store easier.

Pornwolf · 05-01-2002, 05:51 AM

Intergal always has $70 -$100 dollar days...

Not that I've ever gotten a sign up from them after throwing a test bucket of traffic their way.

Are they even a real program is it just abandoned server space?

Rich J. · 05-01-2002, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pornwolf
Intergal always has $70 -$100 dollar days...

Not that I've ever gotten a sign up from them after throwing a test bucket of traffic their way.

Are they even a real program is it just abandoned server space?

Intergal was actually one of the highest paying sponsors on The Daily Dirt for a long time but I had to give them a rest because all of our readers had seen them so much. They'll be back up in a month or two. When you signup for Intergal be sure to use the $40 per signup/ 2 cents a unique program. Any other program of theirs that I have sent traffic to didnt perform.

pisdets2002 · 05-01-2002, 02:37 PM

Wtf, I Just got another spam about a $75 day ...stop the madness

Marc De · 05-01-2002, 03:06 PM

<sarcasm>
Doesn't it make total sense to have a $75 day and shave that day. That way all the people that send traffic that day see that your program converts for shit and never uses you again.
</sarcasm>

It is in NOBODY's interest for a program to shave, especially on a day when the 'spotlight' is on that program. I created the $75 day almost 3 years ago to give people a reason to try ARS. All I can say is, it works, and it has since been has been used by more programs than I can count.

It gives an incentive for people to use your program. Truthfully it would be better for a program to credit MORE sign ups than a webmaster earns so they feel you are a worthy sponsor, rather than credit less.

On another note of the negative sediments everyone has about 'shaving' - an intelligent individual can easily figure out that a webmaster is going to use the program that makes them the most money. It doesn't matter if a program pays $25 and a webmaster converts at 1:200 or a program pays $50 and converts at 1:400 in terms of total revenue. Shaving is pointless. Webmasters will use (if they are smart) what makes them the most money. Therefore it would be pointless to try to pay more and shave. Its really stupid. However, if you can afford to pay high dollar and convert really well, webmasters will use you. It does take good marketing for a program to get big, but it also takes making the webmasters to participate good return on their traffic.

To drive more traffic to our program and thank our webmasters who have helped us become what we are we are paying a 10% Payout Bonus the entire month of May and having a $75 day on May 24th...

pisdets2002 · 05-01-2002, 05:22 PM

A question which has nothing to do with anything, but I'm just interested, Marc how much are you worth. Sorry if I'm being a dick, but it's just one of those things that I just need to know.

Lev · 05-01-2002, 05:30 PM

pisdets, do you really think you gonna get an answer

XXXPaysiteDesign · 05-01-2002, 05:34 PM

His total net worth is 96.64 billion.

Stupid question, stupid answer.

Tipsy · 05-01-2002, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lev
Hey Pizda read this article, it's about shaving

http://www.pornresource.com/article.php?aid=572

I think the article has a valid point. My best converting (by a huge amount) niche sponsor is still YNP. There can be only 2 reasons for this, firstly the tour isn't over exposed as it's either 100% my design or their 'standard' tours with changes. Secondly and I think most importantly when they leave my site they go straight to the signup page, that way glitches in the tracking be it cookies or fucked software (ifreinds is a good example) don't come into play.

I don't believe true shaving is quite as prevelant as people make out although it obviously does happen. More usually the reason is probably shagged tracking software. Still, we had this debate a little while ago and the bottom line is how much $ a sponsor makes you. If they make you more than others then it's all fairly irrelevant. If they make less move on to someone else.

TheEnforcer · 05-01-2002, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Marc De
<sarcasm>
Doesn't it make total sense to have a $75 day and shave that day. That way all the people that send traffic that day see that your program converts for shit and never uses you again.
</sarcasm>

It is in NOBODY's interest for a program to shave, especially on a day when the 'spotlight' is on that program. I created the $75 day almost 3 years ago to give people a reason to try ARS. All I can say is, it works, and it has since been has been used by more programs than I can count.

It gives an incentive for people to use your program. Truthfully it would be better for a program to credit MORE sign ups than a webmaster earns so they feel you are a worthy sponsor, rather than credit less.

On another note of the negative sediments everyone has about 'shaving' - an intelligent individual can easily figure out that a webmaster is going to use the program that makes them the most money. It doesn't matter if a program pays $25 and a webmaster converts at 1:200 or a program pays $50 and converts at 1:400 in terms of total revenue. Shaving is pointless. Webmasters will use (if they are smart) what makes them the most money. Therefore it would be pointless to try to pay more and shave. Its really stupid. However, if you can afford to pay high dollar and convert really well, webmasters will use you. It does take good marketing for a program to get big, but it also takes making the webmasters to participate good return on their traffic.

To drive more traffic to our program and thank our webmasters who have helped us become what we are we are paying a 10% Payout Bonus the entire month of May and having a $75 day on May 24th...

pisdets2002 · 05-01-2002, 07:27 PM

I think I was asking Marc that question and no one else

04-30-2002, 10:27 PM	#1
pisdets2002 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: VT Posts: 75	Whats up with all these $75 days. How... How exactly are companies making profit will all these $75 and $100 days. I understand that it a way of attracting webmasters to their program, but aren't they ultimately the looser? Another problem in my mind about these "special" days is: aren't the webmasters going to have the tendency to cheat or use somekind of methods to increase their signups besides regular old promotion. And the last 2 question : 1. When does a company deside that they are going to promote such an event; is it when they see that their competition is doing it or when they have reached a growth stagnation or when they just want to give out free money? 2. Have there been any known instances where a company promoting such a day went bankrupt?

04-30-2002, 10:28 PM	#2
vidsweb Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Pornland Posts: 698	I think every day should be a $75 day __________________ Just give'r

05-01-2002, 05:34 PM	#21
XXXPaysiteDesign Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Everett, WA Posts: 2,201	His total net worth is 96.64 billion. Stupid question, stupid answer. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

04-30-2002, 10:28 PM	#3
picpile Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 734	its a loss leader. wal-mart sells slim fast at a loss every day of the year to get people in the door.

04-30-2002, 10:37 PM	#6
GTS Mark Vrume Mark Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 20,912	It's pretty straight forward. Topbucks decided to have an instantaneous $70 payout day because they are having a real bad fucking month... Think about it? Why else would they decide at the end of the month to do this? Hmmmm... To stimulate sales and hopefully get some good recurring going to cover the $70 payouts... Plus get some new people in the door. ARS is doing a similar thing but in my opinion they are doing this to keep the masses in check as they are having people screaming at them for their stats program as of late. All I can say is that my stats with Topbucks have gone to hell in a handbasket. 0:4200 in the past two weeks... And ARS ain't much better... Just my DH

04-30-2002, 10:43 PM	#7
SNOW Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,963	TRY ME TRY ME SNOW-Director of Marketing

04-30-2002, 11:20 PM	#8
AWC Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Bumfuck Posts: 1,223	$75.00 days is another way of warning webmasters that the shaver got turned up to HIGH.

04-30-2002, 11:36 PM	#9
pisdets2002 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: VT Posts: 75	Thats the question I forgot to ask or really didn't know how to. Are programs more likely to shave sign ups in order to recoupe some of their losses? If so, is their goal to minimize the payment to what it regularly is or is it to minimize the payment period?

04-30-2002, 11:39 PM	#10
Lev Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,545	Hey Pizda read this article, it's about shaving http://www.pornresource.com/article.php?aid=572

04-30-2002, 11:49 PM	#11
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	they make a big profit off the regular sign-ups every day of the year, they probably dont make a profit or make very little off these 75/su days. they can afford it

05-01-2002, 12:11 AM	#12
Petr Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 502	Actually, we are having $75 day TODAY to give webmasters a reason to try out our program.... Webmasters usually need a good reason to join a new program and/or to change their links and these special signup days COULD convince them to do it...

05-01-2002, 05:51 AM	#15
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	Intergal always has $70 -$100 dollar days... Not that I've ever gotten a sign up from them after throwing a test bucket of traffic their way. Are they even a real program is it just abandoned server space?

05-01-2002, 02:37 PM	#17
pisdets2002 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: VT Posts: 75	Wtf, I Just got another spam about a $75 day ...stop the madness

05-01-2002, 03:06 PM	#18
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	<sarcasm> Doesn't it make total sense to have a $75 day and shave that day. That way all the people that send traffic that day see that your program converts for shit and never uses you again. </sarcasm> It is in NOBODY's interest for a program to shave, especially on a day when the 'spotlight' is on that program. I created the $75 day almost 3 years ago to give people a reason to try ARS. All I can say is, it works, and it has since been has been used by more programs than I can count. It gives an incentive for people to use your program. Truthfully it would be better for a program to credit MORE sign ups than a webmaster earns so they feel you are a worthy sponsor, rather than credit less. On another note of the negative sediments everyone has about 'shaving' - an intelligent individual can easily figure out that a webmaster is going to use the program that makes them the most money. It doesn't matter if a program pays $25 and a webmaster converts at 1:200 or a program pays $50 and converts at 1:400 in terms of total revenue. Shaving is pointless. Webmasters will use (if they are smart) what makes them the most money. Therefore it would be pointless to try to pay more and shave. Its really stupid. However, if you can afford to pay high dollar and convert really well, webmasters will use you. It does take good marketing for a program to get big, but it also takes making the webmasters to participate good return on their traffic. To drive more traffic to our program and thank our webmasters who have helped us become what we are we are paying a 10% Payout Bonus the entire month of May and having a $75 day on May 24th...

05-01-2002, 05:22 PM	#19
pisdets2002 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: VT Posts: 75	A question which has nothing to do with anything, but I'm just interested, Marc how much are you worth. Sorry if I'm being a dick, but it's just one of those things that I just need to know.

05-01-2002, 05:30 PM	#20
Lev Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 3,545	pisdets, do you really think you gonna get an answer

05-01-2002, 07:27 PM	#24
pisdets2002 So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: VT Posts: 75	I think I was asking Marc that question and no one else