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Old 04-23-2006, 09:20 PM   #1
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Better learn some spanish, gringos...

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Now crawl amidst the ruins of this empty dream
With their borders and boots on top of us
Pullin' knobs on the floor of their toxic metropolis
But how you gonna get what you need to get?
Tha gut eaters, blood drenched get offensive like Tet
Tha fifth sun sets get back reclaim
Tha spirit of Cuahtemoc alive and untamed

It's coming back around again

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I know a Cherokee See'er...or Visionary

He comes from a long bloodline traced back to a Cherokee holy woman who married a white man before the American Revolutionary War.

One year ago, he told me he had seen a vision that the US Southwest would be taken by an invasion by Mexico. I didn't believe him at the time...but since I saw the rallies in Los Angeles and Dallas I believe him now.

You are correct....Like the RATM song says "It's comin' back around again"

But unfortunately, its coming around again in a different way then the Mexicans plan.

The visionary said that the Mexicans will be successful in their "reconquering" of the Southwest but will make a critical mistake. They will proclaim victory against the US. They will boast and brag to the world that they were the only people strong enough to fight the American Superpower. Here is their mistake: They will claim the victory for all "indigeneous peoples of the continent"

When their victory celebrations are broadcast all over Central and South America...10s and possibly over a 100 million people will stream out of their poor villages and cities in South and Central America. They will begin to travel North to Mexico and the former US Southwest to be apart of the Newly "Liberated" Lands.

They will fill all of the streets, towns, cities of Mexico and the American Southwest.

The onslaught of people will not stop. Jubilation will turn to confusion as food becomes scarce. Many people of different tribal identities will miscommunicate. Rumors will spread. The people will begin to fear for their lives.

At this moment, anarchy begins to reign. The Mexican government is unable to deploy it's military or police. THe people begin to kill each other out of fear and confusion.

Terror reigns. There is total anarchy. NOBODY is in charge. NOBODY is in control. All civilization breaks down.

Then several natural disasters occur. Specifically, in Los Angeles and Mexico City. Millions of people are killed by violent earth changes and storms.

The destruction in the cities cause by nature eliminates all hope that government can ever regain control. People begin to blame each other for the chaotic situation. They mercilessly butcher each other... they become like animals fighting almost for no reason.

"IT'S COMING BACK AROUND AGAIN"

Just as the Conquistadores were able to turn tribe against tribe. The Americans will exploit the situation Mexico finds itself in.

Americans, armed with military and also homemade weapons, will begin to pour into the US Southwest to exploit the confusion of the Spanish Speaking invaders.

Americans, will feel in their hearts that divine intervention had caused the invaders to fall in disarray. Americans will believe that GOD is on their side.

The "Spirit of the Angel of Death" will enter their hearts. They will seek retribution and vengeance. Americans will believe that GOD has put it in their hearts to do HIS WILL. They believe his will is to kill the enemies of America.

One man will kill five, and then kill another five. Americans will fight with a ferocity that the world has never seen.

The entire Southwest will be liberated. NO invaders will be left alive. Some will escape to Mexico...but they will be pursued.

Then Americans will look at the border with Mexico. They will say, "We do not respect the border of Mexico, as Mexico did not respect the border of America"

Then, Americans will descend upon Mexico. They will come for blood. They will kill for vengeance. They will destroy and make desolate the entire country. They will kill man, woman and child.

Some Mexicans will ally with the Americans... they will be spared...all others will be killed.

At the end of the fighting...Mexico will be completely destroyed... It's people will be ethnically cleansed... Just like the CHerokee Nation.

This is what my friend saw in his vision. He said that Mexico would disappear and never return. He said that America would claim it as a territory and then new immigrants from Europe would come to settle the barren lands.

"IT'S Coming Back Around Again" is actually a new Manifest Destiny

Was the Cherokee Vision correct? Well, we should know the answer soon.

In the meantime, I'll learn a little Spanish just in case he was wrong.
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No reason for American's to learn Spanish. There is no value in it other than social.

It is the Mexicans who have the most to lose by not speaking English.
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I know a Cherokee See'er...or Visionary

He comes from a long bloodline traced back to a Cherokee holy woman who married a white man before the American Revolutionary War.

One year ago, he told me he had seen a vision that the US Southwest would be taken by an invasion by Mexico. I didn't believe him at the time...but since I saw the rallies in Los Angeles and Dallas I believe him now.

You are correct....Like the RATM song says "It's comin' back around again"

But unfortunately, its coming around again in a different way then the Mexicans plan...
That's heavy. I could almost see it happening. I say almost because I have a little difficulty believing a migration of that magnitude could actually happen. But if it did the scenario is entirely feasible.
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I don't have difficulty believing the theory.

It is clearly the Mexico's goal to populate the SW to eventually control it. I believe their plan is to increase the Mexican population so much that they can successfully elect pro-Mexico anti-US politicians to help their Aztlan cause.

It'll be all downhill from there. The SW will start to break down and become more and more like Mexico. Then these people will migrate even further into the US for, you guessed it, a better life.

That's when the country snaps and civil war breaks out.
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That's heavy. I could almost see it happening. I say almost because I have a little difficulty believing a migration of that magnitude could actually happen. But if it did the scenario is entirely feasible.

Trippy shit huh? I probably got some of the vision wrong because I'm telling it from my perspective of hearing it...So I may have left some stuff out and over-emphasized other parts

The big thing for me was time? I asked him when this would happen???

He said he did not know but it was SOON. He said that the only thing he knows is the order of events.. .So for example the US Southwest has to be conquered BEFORE the huge celebration and THEN comes a bigger migration from South and Central America. According to his vision, this whole scenario could take several years or could happen in a matter of months or even weeks... The actual time is not clear...ONLY the order of events.

All of this still doesn't make sense..What about all the GOD stuff? That's what I asked him....What does GOD have to do with it? Why do the Americans kill for God...that doesn't sound very nice and christian-like does it?

He said that the war that is taking place is a spiritual and a physical war.

He said his Cherokee ancestor...understood the Spirit World. She worshipped the GODS of the Earth. When she encountered the white man.... She believed that his GOD was more powerful than her Cherokee spirit GODS... SO she married a white man so that her bloodline would continue under the protection of the white man's GOD. She knew that the white man's GOD would destroy the earth spirits that protected the Cherokee Nation. SHe knew that her bloodline would only survive if she intermarried with Christian whites and became one with the whites... IN return, she prophecied that future generations would know they were CHerokee...because they would be able to see visions just like she did as Cherokee

OK, so back to GOD...

Mexico has dark spirits that rule it. They have been in re-mission since the defeat of the Aztecs... But they are now coming back to rule Mexico.

These dark spirits will make war with the Christian/Jewish GOD of America. That is why the war will be between brown (INDIANS) and white (Americans). Because the "indigeneous" peoples of the Americas used to be the children of the dark spirits.

According to the CHerokee vision....Only the indigeneous" peoples (Indians) that turn to the white man's GOD will survive this war. They will have to do what the CHerokee visionary did hundreds of years ago.. .They have to accept a new religion and a new master or they will perish.

SO in effect, what we're seeing is a replay of past history... It's cowboys and indians all over again... It's Aztecs vs. Conquistadores all over again. It's Christians versus Pagans all over again...

But according to the CHerokee vision... this is the last war...after this... there will be no more earthly wars

The Cherokee vision of Mexican Invasion was the 2nd Vision of the future of America

There is also another vision about the future of America...The 1st Vision...but the 1st Vision is very complicated to explain.

According to the Cherokee See'er.... the 1st vision took 20 years to reveal itself to him... Whereas the 2nd (Mexico) vision only took a matter of seconds to reveal itsefl

The 1st vision... is really fucking scary... it had to be explained to me several times before I understood it completely.. Let's just put it this way... America is going to be invaded by more countries than just Mexico.
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I don't have difficulty believing the theory.

It is clearly the Mexico's goal to populate the SW to eventually control it. I believe their plan is to increase the Mexican population so much that they can successfully elect pro-Mexico anti-US politicians to help their Aztlan cause.

It'll be all downhill from there. The SW will start to break down and become more and more like Mexico. Then these people will migrate even further into the US for, you guessed it, a better life.

That's when the country snaps and civil war breaks out.
You are correct, this is the goal.

The SW will not break down if proper political leadership is installed.

Americans are too fat, lazy and pussified to ever engage in civil war.
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The Cherokee vision of Mexican Invasion was the 2nd Vision of the future of America

The 1st vision... is really fucking scary... it had to be explained to me several times before I understood it completely.. Let's just put it this way... America is going to be invaded by more countries than just Mexico.
I'm too high to be reading this. You're freaking me out.
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You are correct, this is the goal.

The SW will not break down if proper political leadership is installed.

Americans are too fat, lazy and pussified to ever engage in civil war.
I think you're totally right

Thats what is making me start to believe the Cherokee Vision...because in the Vision the Southwest is taken completely intact...with little physical resistance... The actual fighting comes when there is a stampede of poor people into Mexico from South and Central America

The Cherokee dude is starting to really resonate...damn...just retelling the story is starting to give me the fucking creeps
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I'm too high to be reading this. You're freaking me out.
I could probably try to explain the 1st Vision... but it would take me awhile to type it out...if you guys are interested I could post it later
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Why should we learn spanish...
Maybe you should learn English if you want to get ahead here.... or you can spend the rest of your lives painting and mowing lawns if you want.
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Why should we learn spanish...
Maybe you should learn English if you want to get ahead here.... or you can spend the rest of your lives painting and mowing lawns if you want.
I think the 'plan' is to procreate alot and wait for the government to take care of them, since that plan worked out so well in Mexico already
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You are correct, this is the goal.

The SW will not break down if proper political leadership is installed.

Americans are too fat, lazy and pussified to ever engage in civil war.
Yankee Americans are indeed too fat and lazy. But there are plenty of people in the South that will gladly pick up a gun, and if things continue like they do and the American economy ever seriously slows I think shit may really hit the fan. But in general you are right, white people in general are so pussified it's ridiculous, grab some idiot like yourself and call them a racist and they'll start back peddling and saying how they just want everything to be legal. Fuck it, I think white Western civilisation is worth protecting, and I think ethnicity is directly tied to our civilisation and culture.

Replace Europe with an Islamic majority, or replace America with a Hispanic majority and within a few decades the country won't hardly resemble what it once did, and the end result will be no different to a military takeover. In my opinion any massive influxes of vastly different people, particularly over a short period of time, is bound to end up in chaos of some sort, and with the pro-'multiculturalist', anti-integrationist agenda going on now days the chaos is bound to only grow unless people stand up and take a stand. But the last place I really expect that to happen is America, I think Europe will rise up long before the American's can bring themselves to drag their asses off their la-z boy's.
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Yankee Americans are indeed too fat and lazy. But there are plenty of people in the South that will gladly pick up a gun, and if things continue like they do and the American economy ever seriously slows I think shit may really hit the fan.
What a stereotype. There are gun toting rednecks all over the country that would love an excuse to kill a Mexican. Just not enough to wage a succcessful civil war.

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But in general you are right, white people in general are so pussified it's ridiculous, grab some idiot like yourself and call them a racist and they'll start back peddling and saying how they just want everything to be legal.
I've been called a racist many times on this board by people that dislike my views on the current state of black culture. Ask the GFY Soul Patrol. Quawee? Inde? You out there? Tell this man what a racist I am for not liking Lil' Wayne.

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Fuck it, I think white Western civilisation is worth protecting, and I think ethnicity is directly tied to our civilisation and culture.
So you're a "14 words" spouting white supremist and proud of it?
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Maybe you should learn English if you want to get ahead here.... or you can spend the rest of your lives painting and mowing lawns if you want.
In Aztlan YOU gonna be mowing the lawn, gringo.
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I know a Cherokee See'er...or Visionary

He comes from a long bloodline traced back to a Cherokee holy woman who married a white man before the American Revolutionary War.

One year ago, he told me he had seen a vision that the US Southwest would be taken by an invasion by Mexico. I didn't believe him at the time...but since I saw the rallies in Los Angeles and Dallas I believe him now.

You are correct....Like the RATM song says "It's comin' back around again"

But unfortunately, its coming around again in a different way then the Mexicans plan.

The visionary said that the Mexicans will be successful in their "reconquering" of the Southwest but will make a critical mistake. They will proclaim victory against the US. They will boast and brag to the world that they were the only people strong enough to fight the American Superpower. Here is their mistake: They will claim the victory for all "indigeneous peoples of the continent"

When their victory celebrations are broadcast all over Central and South America...10s and possibly over a 100 million people will stream out of their poor villages and cities in South and Central America. They will begin to travel North to Mexico and the former US Southwest to be apart of the Newly "Liberated" Lands.

They will fill all of the streets, towns, cities of Mexico and the American Southwest.

The onslaught of people will not stop. Jubilation will turn to confusion as food becomes scarce. Many people of different tribal identities will miscommunicate. Rumors will spread. The people will begin to fear for their lives.

At this moment, anarchy begins to reign. The Mexican government is unable to deploy it's military or police. THe people begin to kill each other out of fear and confusion.

Terror reigns. There is total anarchy. NOBODY is in charge. NOBODY is in control. All civilization breaks down.

Then several natural disasters occur. Specifically, in Los Angeles and Mexico City. Millions of people are killed by violent earth changes and storms.

The destruction in the cities cause by nature eliminates all hope that government can ever regain control. People begin to blame each other for the chaotic situation. They mercilessly butcher each other... they become like animals fighting almost for no reason.

"IT'S COMING BACK AROUND AGAIN"

Just as the Conquistadores were able to turn tribe against tribe. The Americans will exploit the situation Mexico finds itself in.

Americans, armed with military and also homemade weapons, will begin to pour into the US Southwest to exploit the confusion of the Spanish Speaking invaders.

Americans, will feel in their hearts that divine intervention had caused the invaders to fall in disarray. Americans will believe that GOD is on their side.

The "Spirit of the Angel of Death" will enter their hearts. They will seek retribution and vengeance. Americans will believe that GOD has put it in their hearts to do HIS WILL. They believe his will is to kill the enemies of America.

One man will kill five, and then kill another five. Americans will fight with a ferocity that the world has never seen.

The entire Southwest will be liberated. NO invaders will be left alive. Some will escape to Mexico...but they will be pursued.

Then Americans will look at the border with Mexico. They will say, "We do not respect the border of Mexico, as Mexico did not respect the border of America"

Then, Americans will descend upon Mexico. They will come for blood. They will kill for vengeance. They will destroy and make desolate the entire country. They will kill man, woman and child.

Some Mexicans will ally with the Americans... they will be spared...all others will be killed.

At the end of the fighting...Mexico will be completely destroyed... It's people will be ethnically cleansed... Just like the CHerokee Nation.

This is what my friend saw in his vision. He said that Mexico would disappear and never return. He said that America would claim it as a territory and then new immigrants from Europe would come to settle the barren lands.

"IT'S Coming Back Around Again" is actually a new Manifest Destiny

Was the Cherokee Vision correct? Well, we should know the answer soon.

In the meantime, I'll learn a little Spanish just in case he was wrong.
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