Weird Google Shift - GoFuckYourself.com

daddynastee · 07-02-2006, 09:58 AM

Has anyone else that pulls hearty traffic via Google noticed a drop in numbers? I'm talking about Google search traffic, not the pay by click Google ads. The last four days have been disasterous for us, and when I studied my referring traffic stats I noticed a huge portion of our normal Google traffic (that's been consistent for years) was gone.

Any Google experts here? Would appreciate your opinion.

SmokeyTheBear · 07-02-2006, 10:17 AM

google updated , you didnt fare very well, it happens , learn from it and move on..

darksoul · 07-02-2006, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

google updated , you didnt fare very well, it happens , learn from it and move on..

google updates everyday.

scottybuzz · 07-02-2006, 10:21 AM

thanks smokes

daddynastee · 07-02-2006, 10:25 AM

Of course I knew that they'd "danced" and updated -- but I was wondering if anyone was aware of other kinds of logarithm changes or policy shifts, etc.

jrap · 07-02-2006, 10:35 AM

Have you checked the actual SERPS? Are you no longer ranking for queries that you use to rank for? or is it just a drop in traffic?

If the latter is the case..think about it
4th of july long weekend + Canada day long weekend + World Cup quarter finals

gooddomains · 07-02-2006, 11:27 AM

google is doing good for me since the update

Zuss · 07-02-2006, 11:29 AM

95% of my pages got dropped.

daddynastee · 07-02-2006, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jrap

Have you checked the actual SERPS? Are you no longer ranking for queries that you use to rank for? or is it just a drop in traffic?

What are SERPS? And to answer your question: both. Queries and drop in traffic. My site is based on a successful blog format, with actual articles and features and blog posts bringing in a good amount of traffic from Google. But as of the other day it's like Google put up some sort of filter that shut out search results to our random blog pages. Formerly those pages brought in a decent amount of random traffic.

It's incredibly frustrating and a bit frightening -- should this be their new format and filtering system. My site is eight years old, so it's not like I'm a newbie, crying about a recent Google dance. It's just that in the past the shift hasn't wrecked havoc so hard on my traffic.

jrap · 07-02-2006, 12:10 PM

Were you using any gray/blackhat techniques?

JD · 07-02-2006, 12:11 PM

I got your traffic

The google dance was VERY nice to me

Fetish · 07-02-2006, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuss

95% of my pages got dropped.

Mine too. What are serps?

daddynastee · 07-02-2006, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jrap

Were you using any gray/blackhat techniques?

What are those? Have no idea what you're talking about.

Fetish · 07-02-2006, 12:55 PM

help please? Is there a way to check what your listings are under different keywords?

poondaddy · 07-02-2006, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Fetish

help please? Is there a way to check what your listings are under different keywords?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

$5 submissions · 07-02-2006, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by daddynastee

Has anyone else that pulls hearty traffic via Google noticed a drop in numbers? I'm talking about Google search traffic, not the pay by click Google ads. The last four days have been disasterous for us, and when I studied my referring traffic stats I noticed a huge portion of our normal Google traffic (that's been consistent for years) was gone.

Any Google experts here? Would appreciate your opinion.

How much of a drop (percentagewise) did you experience?

fr0gman · 07-02-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

google updates everyday.

I disagree. My experience shows that Google updates abut 4 times a year.

SuckOnThis · 07-02-2006, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fr0gman

I disagree. My experience shows that Google updates abut 4 times a year.

Depends on how popular the site is. Sites like CNN will get updated more than once a day. When I make changes to my site I usually notice the update in Google in about 4-5 days.

Linkster · 07-02-2006, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Fetish

Mine too. What are serps?

Serps - search engine rank placements (or some variety of that)

There has been a major update to the algorithm in addition to the regular daily updates Google does - they screwed it up about two weeks ago and dumped a really bad corrupted database into the results - they had to pull that one back two days later - then a few days ago they tried again with a doubling of the pages in the index - and it looks like its sticking - but it doesnt look like theyve applied to many of their filters yet

daddynastee · 07-02-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by $5 submissions

How much of a drop (percentagewise) did you experience?

Substantial. Enough to get drunk over and cry in my beer last night. I'd say about a third of my traffic evaporated. Brutal.

daddynastee · 07-02-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Linkster

There has been a major update to the algorithm in addition to the regular daily updates Google does - they screwed it up about two weeks ago and dumped a really bad corrupted database into the results - they had to pull that one back two days later - then a few days ago they tried again with a doubling of the pages in the index - and it looks like its sticking - but it doesnt look like theyve applied to many of their filters yet

Linkster -- how do you track this information...? And can you explain anything about applied "filters." Thanks.

OzMan · 07-02-2006, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Linkster

Serps - search engine rank placements (or some variety of that)

There has been a major update to the algorithm in addition to the regular daily updates Google does - they screwed it up about two weeks ago and dumped a really bad corrupted database into the results - they had to pull that one back two days later - then a few days ago they tried again with a doubling of the pages in the index - and it looks like its sticking - but it doesnt look like theyve applied to many of their filters yet

Since you work there can you get me a Google slimouse pleez?

goldrush · 07-02-2006, 05:20 PM

Google and the sales have been rocking last few days

can't complain here, SEs are a zero sum game after all. Some win some lose and it all evens out at the end of the day.

SmokeyTheBear · 07-02-2006, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by darksoul

google updates everyday.

serps dont drop by leaps and bounds everyday , they shift around a bit , but when your traffic drops by a noticeable amount its usually a ban or an update. and indeed there has been an update/algo change.

SmokeyTheBear · 07-02-2006, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fetish

Mine too. What are serps?

search engine ranking position..

Bill8 · 07-02-2006, 06:32 PM

search engine results page

fr0gman · 07-02-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

Depends on how popular the site is. Sites like CNN will get updated more than once a day. When I make changes to my site I usually notice the update in Google in about 4-5 days.

I think that we are confusing how often Google spiders a site with THE Google updates. Google spiders some of my sites (most actually) several times a day. Google does not do a system-wide update but for a few times a year.

Fetish · 07-02-2006, 10:29 PM

Is there a way to type in your url and see under what keywords and what ranking under those keywords you are at?

TheJimmy · 07-02-2006, 10:39 PM

Haven't even had a chance to check my SERPS lately...but I DID notice google burning the shit out of my box crawling the last few days.

KRL · 07-02-2006, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJimmy

Haven't even had a chance to check my SERPS lately...but I DID notice google burning the shit out of my box crawling the last few days.

Yep, googlebot been like termites gone wild.

TheJimmy · 07-02-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KRL

Yep, googlebot been like termites gone wild.

LOL I like that 'termites gone wild'

I might have to steal that one, our friend SPeRMiNaToR might opt for "Centipedes gone wild" though.

Manowar · 07-02-2006, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJimmy

Haven't even had a chance to check my SERPS lately...but I DID notice google burning the shit out of my box crawling the last few days.

same here!

07-03-2006, 12:03 AM

Are the SERPs still shifting around or has it settled down already?

TheJimmy · 07-03-2006, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Equinox

Are the SERPs still shifting around or has it settled down already?

I don't think the dust has settled yet maing...

07-03-2006, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheJimmy

I don't think the dust has settled yet maing...

My positions have been bouncing all over the place in the past few days. I wouldn't mind if the SERPs settled in their current position...

joachim kessef · 07-03-2006, 12:39 AM

the same happened to me i go adware campaign nothing show up i heard hear like it show up right now but nothing work we wrotte them the didnt reply and the charge me i dont know what to do
onlinehardcorevideo.com

$5 submissions · 07-03-2006, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by daddynastee

Substantial. Enough to get drunk over and cry in my beer last night. I'd say about a third of my traffic evaporated. Brutal.

Ouch. Hang in there for a few more days. Updates are sometimes unstable for a few days. Once it's settled down you'll see where you really stand re SERPS.

kuthi123 · 07-03-2006, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Fetish

help please? Is there a way to check what your listings are under different keywords?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...e+Search&meta=

v4 media · 07-03-2006, 01:19 AM

A few people have taken big drops, the main reasons with regard to this update seem to be.

Linking to banned domains, buying/trading links on non related sites, having the same blog articles as 20,000 other people, too many out links in relation to the amount of text on the page.

I could go on.. but I wont.. hehe

flashbang · 07-03-2006, 01:23 AM

up 63% here.... back to where i belong, lot of scammer sites got above me since jagger, good to see that stuff is dissappearing

Linkster · 07-03-2006, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by daddynastee

Linkster -- how do you track this information...? And can you explain anything about applied "filters." Thanks.

I track it using a few programs I had written 4 years ago as well as just simple things like picking a phrase that I know I will usually rank pretty well with and watching the number of results Google reports when you type in the search - one that Ive used for years is the word "sex" (although they censor that search in the US/ English results now). For years the results showed 70 million results - then last year they started their "BD" changeover and it jumped to 300 mill results - two weeks ago it went to 3 billion results - and now its back down to 400 mill

The filters can be seen when they are applied by adding &filter=0 to the end of the resulting url when you type in a search - this will show all the sites being filtered out for dupe/ban etc
There are 100s of filters in the algorithm that can be "tweaked" based on incoming links, authority of the sites, titles, descriptions and on and on.
Recently there have been some people that think there were also domain age filters, ownership dupe filters and many others that havent been proven but are good guesses based on Googles recent acceptance as a qualified registrar

07-02-2006, 09:58 AM	#1
daddynastee Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 310	Weird Google Shift Has anyone else that pulls hearty traffic via Google noticed a drop in numbers? I'm talking about Google search traffic, not the pay by click Google ads. The last four days have been disasterous for us, and when I studied my referring traffic stats I noticed a huge portion of our normal Google traffic (that's been consistent for years) was gone. Any Google experts here? Would appreciate your opinion.

07-02-2006, 10:17 AM	#2
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	google updated , you didnt fare very well, it happens , learn from it and move on.. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

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07-02-2006, 10:39 PM	#29
TheJimmy ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0 Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,747	Haven't even had a chance to check my SERPS lately...but I DID notice google burning the shit out of my box crawling the last few days. __________________ Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

07-02-2006, 10:25 AM	#5
daddynastee Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 310	Of course I knew that they'd "danced" and updated -- but I was wondering if anyone was aware of other kinds of logarithm changes or policy shifts, etc.

07-02-2006, 10:35 AM	#6
jrap Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 448	Have you checked the actual SERPS? Are you no longer ranking for queries that you use to rank for? or is it just a drop in traffic? If the latter is the case..think about it 4th of july long weekend + Canada day long weekend + World Cup quarter finals

07-02-2006, 11:27 AM	#7
gooddomains Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 10,127	google is doing good for me since the update

07-02-2006, 12:10 PM	#10
jrap Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 448	Were you using any gray/blackhat techniques?

07-02-2006, 12:11 PM	#11
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	I got your traffic The google dance was VERY nice to me

07-02-2006, 12:55 PM	#14
Fetish Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 823	help please? Is there a way to check what your listings are under different keywords?

07-02-2006, 05:20 PM	#23
goldrush Will trade SE hits for CJ hits Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 661	Google and the sales have been rocking last few days can't complain here, SEs are a zero sum game after all. Some win some lose and it all evens out at the end of the day.

07-02-2006, 06:32 PM	#26
Bill8 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,901	search engine results page

07-02-2006, 10:29 PM	#28
Fetish Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 823	Is there a way to type in your url and see under what keywords and what ranking under those keywords you are at?

07-03-2006, 12:03 AM	#33
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	Are the SERPs still shifting around or has it settled down already?

07-03-2006, 12:39 AM	#36
joachim kessef Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15	the same happened to me i go adware campaign nothing show up i heard hear like it show up right now but nothing work we wrotte them the didnt reply and the charge me i dont know what to do onlinehardcorevideo.com

07-03-2006, 01:19 AM	#39
v4 media Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Spain Posts: 2,934	A few people have taken big drops, the main reasons with regard to this update seem to be. Linking to banned domains, buying/trading links on non related sites, having the same blog articles as 20,000 other people, too many out links in relation to the amount of text on the page. I could go on.. but I wont.. hehe

07-03-2006, 01:23 AM	#40
flashbang Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 767	up 63% here.... back to where i belong, lot of scammer sites got above me since jagger, good to see that stuff is dissappearing __________________ Your TGP traffic belongs to you again \| X Rated Words & Hard Links