Why do people not support Melissa Midwest? - GoFuckYourself.com

pocketkangaroo · 08-03-2006, 01:52 AM

It kind of boggles my mind when I see thread after thread of people complaining about our government and the liberties they take with individuals in the adult industry. Whether it's unconstitutional laws or bogus arrests, the board is a buzz with these threads and they seem to play a large part in this industry.

It is with that that I can't fathom why people not only blow off her recent legal battles but blame her for them. In an industry that cries foul all the time, should we not be supporting those that are willing to battle those injustices? I understand what some mean by "she's asking for trouble", but is hiding in the shadows really going to allow this industry to expand and gain acceptance?

Fighting these thing is the only way this industry survives injustices like this. This doesn't just go for Melissa Midwest, but Ray Guhn, Chris Wilson, and all the others that are charged for crimes simply because they don't meet the same moral code set forth by their local government. Letting these people know they can't push people around is the first step in gaining acceptance and clearing the perception that we are all evil.

For those not aware, Melissa Midwest is not only fighting her case by appealing a very small crime, but also filing a lawsuit against the local powers. She is turning the tables on them and letting them know that they can't get away with this kind of stuff. This is what this industry should be doing, not running and hiding. I just think condemming her for such actions is completely wrong. Finally someone has the resources and guts to stand up to the government and we sit here and call her an idiot.

So why do we not support her in this? Is it because she is a girl? Is it because she isn't part of a GFY clique? Or is it because we've become so afraid of our government that we can't fathom standing up to it?

Whatever the case may be, I think it's wrong. She along with others in legal battles should be getting full support. If your government wins these battles without a fight, they will continue to target this industry and these arrests will become more common.

OG LennyT · 08-03-2006, 02:05 AM

I think people do support her. The simple fact is, her crime is kind of cute and devilish and doesnt compare to adult companies being sued for millions/ prosecuted to max extent of the law.

People have mad love for Melissa (lust in my case)

Nefarius · 08-03-2006, 02:06 AM

That hurts my head.

pocketkangaroo · 08-03-2006, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dvd316

I think people do support her. The simple fact is, her crime is kind of cute and devilish and doesnt compare to adult companies being sued for millions/ prosecuted to max extent of the law.

People have mad love for Melissa (lust in my case)

It is cute and devilish, but she has been targeted because of her adult site. I guarantee you if it was a local college girl with no website, nothing would have been done. In fact, I bet if you went through the Lincoln Police records, you'd hardly find any occurences of this crime being charged and convicted. Just watch the video she has. Officers clearly knew they were in the wrong as they tried to strong arm the cameraman.

No matter what the crime was for, she was targeted because of her affiliation with the adult industry.

studiocritic · 08-03-2006, 02:16 AM

i fully support anyone who is brave enough to countersue when the cops are in the wrong.. i contribute anything i can to such causes

Deraj · 08-03-2006, 02:20 AM

Yeah.. we all fuck up once in a while ;)

Jakke PNG · 08-03-2006, 02:32 AM

Mostly because she's done it again and again despite being in court before and having lost. That's my knowledge of the thing.. I don't know if I'm right or wrong, nor do I really care.

It's all fine and dandy the first time around, but if you continue to do something court has forbidden you to do, it's YOUR fault..not the systems. Move out if you want to continue what you're doing.

Vlad · 08-03-2006, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Mostly because she's done it again and again despite being in court before and having lost. That's my knowledge of the thing.. I don't know if I'm right or wrong, nor do I really care.

It's all fine and dandy the first time around, but if you continue to do something court has forbidden you to do, it's YOUR fault..not the systems. Move out if you want to continue what you're doing.

exactly...

why we should support her ?

name me ONE good reason...

I have the symphaty for her as she's sexy girl , but nothing more then that

notabook · 08-03-2006, 02:40 AM

She's hot as fuck but she keeps pushing the bullet =\

SomeCreep · 08-03-2006, 02:41 AM

breaking the law, breaking the law

georgeyw · 08-03-2006, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

breaking the law, breaking the law

A law that a bunch of narrow minded dipshits drew up.

To change anything it's necessary to fight - nothing ever changes through simple niceties - nothing of any importance anyway.

pocketkangaroo · 08-03-2006, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Mostly because she's done it again and again despite being in court before and having lost. That's my knowledge of the thing.. I don't know if I'm right or wrong, nor do I really care.

It's all fine and dandy the first time around, but if you continue to do something court has forbidden you to do, it's YOUR fault..not the systems. Move out if you want to continue what you're doing.

So in that thinking you would argue that blacks who fought for civil rights should have just shut up and followed the laws? That the people should simply listen to their government and never oppose it? This country was founded and developed through centuries because people chose to oppose their government and fight for what they felt was right.

Hooligan · 08-03-2006, 02:56 AM

why should i suport her? who the fuck is she?

LOL.

fuck her.

Pleasurepays · 08-03-2006, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Mostly because she's done it again and again despite being in court before and having lost. That's my knowledge of the thing.. I don't know if I'm right or wrong, nor do I really care.

It's all fine and dandy the first time around, but if you continue to do something court has forbidden you to do, it's YOUR fault..not the systems. Move out if you want to continue what you're doing.

exactly. you can only antagonize the law so much for publicity before the judge is going to put a stop to it. once is fine... but again and again? not my problem. not "our" problem. not an industry problem.

Pleasurepays · 08-03-2006, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

So in that thinking you would argue that blacks who fought for civil rights should have just shut up and followed the laws? That the people should simply listen to their government and never oppose it? This country was founded and developed through centuries because people chose to oppose their government and fight for what they felt was right.

so in that thinking you can just wake up one day and decide you are "taking a stand" against any absurd thing that YOU don't agree with... can do anything you want in protest or to break the law and in the end, you should expect everyones full support because you were actually doing it for everyone? take it easy there Mao.... sloooooow down.

flashfire · 08-03-2006, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SomeCreep

breaking the law, breaking the law

jp would be proud...lol

Hooligan · 08-03-2006, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

so in that thinking you can just wake up one day and decide you are "taking a stand" against any absurd thing that YOU don't agree with... can do anything you want in protest or to break the law and in the end, you should expect everyones full support because you were actually doing it for everyone? take it easy there Mao.... sloooooow down.

no shit.

i think i'll go down to county jail, bail out a few pot dealing niggas and take a stand together with them

DWB · 08-03-2006, 03:19 AM

I dont know her full details but it sounded to me like she knew what she was doing and kept pushing the issue. If you tease the dog, sooner or later it is going to bite you.

pocketkangaroo · 08-03-2006, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

so in that thinking you can just wake up one day and decide you are "taking a stand" against any absurd thing that YOU don't agree with... can do anything you want in protest or to break the law and in the end, you should expect everyones full support because you were actually doing it for everyone? take it easy there Mao.... sloooooow down.

I don't feel she commited a crime. I don't feel Ray Guhn commited a crime.

If you feel people like her and Ray Guhn should be arrested and convicted so be it. I couldn't imagine those kind of charges and convictions simply because they work in the adult industry are good for the industry. Maybe your take on it is that individuals like her, Ray Guhn, and Chris Wilson deserve what they get.

Mr Pheer · 08-03-2006, 03:27 AM

I dont really think its fair what she went thru, some stupid laws and 6 months probation.... but how exactly how should I support here? Send her some money?
I'm sure she has plenty of her own.

pocketkangaroo · 08-03-2006, 03:29 AM

It's not really about supporting financially. I just think when someone stands up for something like that, they should be commended. If you've seen the video, it's an absolute joke what the cops did. When you fight back, especially in this industry, it should be looked upon as a positive.

Mr Pheer · 08-03-2006, 03:32 AM

Well... I hope this doesnt happen... but if she gets arrested again and sent to jail, I'll send her some cookies and some of my underwear... thats about all the support I can offer.

Turf · 08-03-2006, 03:37 AM

what the hell is she charged with ?

being too fucking hot ?

Hooligan · 08-03-2006, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Turf

what the hell is she charged with ?

being too fucking hot ?

Indecent exposure.

DWB · 08-03-2006, 03:48 AM

A long time ago in a land not so far away...

The DWB was born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio - and as many of you know, that is ground zero for bible thumping, god loving politicians who love to unjustly derail adult businesses. This is where Larry Flynt started... and you all know how that ended.

I have been through my fair share of stupid shit there, including being zoned out of the city for running an adult business... and fought them in court for my right to remain there. I spent a whole lot of money, MY MONEY (no donations), to get the job done. And then the next year they changed some words in the law and did it all over again.

But then in a divine moment of clarity...

I realized that it was not worth the hassle and had no ROI. It was never going to end, so I fucking moved.

And The DWB lived happily ever after.

End of story.

The moral of this story: If you are in adult, living in the Midwest, and getting harassed... MOVE.

Double L · 08-03-2006, 03:50 AM

Fantastic for her likely.... Court on a little charge and the the massive publicity exposure. Massive local exposure, USA Today, CNN = $$$. I'd keep stirring up that money pot for all its worth. I dont feel bad for her. You think she's really fighting for a cause to be able to be nude in public... In Nebraska? Im not saying the cops are right, I barely remember the video where she was in a bar.. They said she had clear pasties on or something... The same stuff has happened in my state with strip clubs... Its the law here. More power to her if she wants to fight it or use it to drum up publicity and sales.

StuartD · 08-03-2006, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TeenGodFather

Mostly because she's done it again and again despite being in court before and having lost. That's my knowledge of the thing.. I don't know if I'm right or wrong, nor do I really care.

It's all fine and dandy the first time around, but if you continue to do something court has forbidden you to do, it's YOUR fault..not the systems. Move out if you want to continue what you're doing.

Yup. If you get arrested for something, and know exactly what will happen if you do it again... and still go ahead and do it anyway.... you deserve what you get.

Pleasurepays · 08-03-2006, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

I don't feel she commited a crime. I don't feel Ray Guhn commited a crime.

If you feel people like her and Ray Guhn should be arrested and convicted so be it. I couldn't imagine those kind of charges and convictions simply because they work in the adult industry are good for the industry. Maybe your take on it is that individuals like her, Ray Guhn, and Chris Wilson deserve what they get.

its not up to you to determine whether she committed a crime or not. its up to the prosecutors and judge. apparently she did. it was tried in court.

ray guhn? how the fuck can you possibly know if he commited a crime or not? seems to me that police went through an insane amount of trouble with a lengthy undercover investigation,, seized tons of shit including guns and drugs as part of a case that has yet to be tried in court. you dont know if he is guilty or not. you dont know anything other than what the now broke employee who came here begging for money told you.

chris wilson is another fucking idiot who deserved EXACTLY what he got. he lived in BibleTown USA doing shit he had to know was going to get himself in trouble. ... community standards are community standards. if democracy offends you so much, i am sure you will be perfectly welcome in North Korea or some similar shithole where peoples voices don't matter and they don't get to decide what type of community they want to live in. on top of everything, he then chose to involve the US military during a time of war, doing something that we would expect only from a bunch of terrorists on Al Jazeera to be doing... chose to involved the highest levels of the federal government, thought it was funny and was all giddy about his upcoming CNN interview he claimed he was going to have... then shit came crashing down on him in a manner that was exactly 100% predictable. AND no one here knows really what the 300 charges were about right? anyone? did anyone see proof of what the evidence that was seized was? uhmm. no. so... saying he's innocent is pretty fucking ignorant since you have no idea what the primary evidence against him was.

Double L · 08-03-2006, 04:07 AM

She's not stupid.. All minor charges from what I see... Naked pics taken in a bar and posted on her website, being nude in a bar again... again... whatever.

Strange how many think its about her fighting or being treated unfairly. It's about money and the publicity. She's smart enough to even promote that on her own site and Im sure it pulls even more for her beyond just the free attention to it.

From her site linking to all the publicity: http://50.lycos.com/010604.asp Who the fuck was Paris Hilton until her sex tape? I had never heard of her until after that.

Marketing vs Fighting for a cause imho. She's a hottie and all this is making her bank. Cant blame her for sticking with it.

08-03-2006, 01:52 AM	#1
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Why do people not support Melissa Midwest? It kind of boggles my mind when I see thread after thread of people complaining about our government and the liberties they take with individuals in the adult industry. Whether it's unconstitutional laws or bogus arrests, the board is a buzz with these threads and they seem to play a large part in this industry. It is with that that I can't fathom why people not only blow off her recent legal battles but blame her for them. In an industry that cries foul all the time, should we not be supporting those that are willing to battle those injustices? I understand what some mean by "she's asking for trouble", but is hiding in the shadows really going to allow this industry to expand and gain acceptance? Fighting these thing is the only way this industry survives injustices like this. This doesn't just go for Melissa Midwest, but Ray Guhn, Chris Wilson, and all the others that are charged for crimes simply because they don't meet the same moral code set forth by their local government. Letting these people know they can't push people around is the first step in gaining acceptance and clearing the perception that we are all evil. For those not aware, Melissa Midwest is not only fighting her case by appealing a very small crime, but also filing a lawsuit against the local powers. She is turning the tables on them and letting them know that they can't get away with this kind of stuff. This is what this industry should be doing, not running and hiding. I just think condemming her for such actions is completely wrong. Finally someone has the resources and guts to stand up to the government and we sit here and call her an idiot. So why do we not support her in this? Is it because she is a girl? Is it because she isn't part of a GFY clique? Or is it because we've become so afraid of our government that we can't fathom standing up to it? Whatever the case may be, I think it's wrong. She along with others in legal battles should be getting full support. If your government wins these battles without a fight, they will continue to target this industry and these arrests will become more common.

08-03-2006, 02:05 AM	#2
OG LennyT Wall Street Pimp Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 14,345	I think people do support her. The simple fact is, her crime is kind of cute and devilish and doesnt compare to adult companies being sued for millions/ prosecuted to max extent of the law. People have mad love for Melissa (lust in my case) __________________ Tradeking - my online broker \| 4.95 a trade \| make real $$

08-03-2006, 02:16 AM	#5
studiocritic Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 2,442	i fully support anyone who is brave enough to countersue when the cops are in the wrong.. i contribute anything i can to such causes __________________ 254342256

08-03-2006, 02:32 AM	#7
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Mostly because she's done it again and again despite being in court before and having lost. That's my knowledge of the thing.. I don't know if I'm right or wrong, nor do I really care. It's all fine and dandy the first time around, but if you continue to do something court has forbidden you to do, it's YOUR fault..not the systems. Move out if you want to continue what you're doing. __________________ ..and I'm off.

08-03-2006, 02:40 AM	#9
notabook Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Not a Library! Posts: 9,748	She's hot as fuck but she keeps pushing the bullet =\ __________________

08-03-2006, 02:06 AM	#3
Nefarius So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 18	That hurts my head.

08-03-2006, 02:41 AM	#10
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	breaking the law, breaking the law __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

08-03-2006, 02:56 AM	#13
Hooligan So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 1,472	why should i suport her? who the fuck is she? LOL. fuck her.

08-03-2006, 03:19 AM	#18
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I dont know her full details but it sounded to me like she knew what she was doing and kept pushing the issue. If you tease the dog, sooner or later it is going to bite you.

08-03-2006, 03:27 AM	#20
Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 20,984	I dont really think its fair what she went thru, some stupid laws and 6 months probation.... but how exactly how should I support here? Send her some money? I'm sure she has plenty of her own. __________________ Get your booster! It's safe

08-03-2006, 03:29 AM	#21
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	It's not really about supporting financially. I just think when someone stands up for something like that, they should be commended. If you've seen the video, it's an absolute joke what the cops did. When you fight back, especially in this industry, it should be looked upon as a positive.

08-03-2006, 03:32 AM	#22
Mr Pheer Retired Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 20,984	Well... I hope this doesnt happen... but if she gets arrested again and sent to jail, I'll send her some cookies and some of my underwear... thats about all the support I can offer. __________________ Get your booster! It's safe

08-03-2006, 03:37 AM	#23
Turf Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: ICQ: 64644691 Posts: 1,865	what the hell is she charged with ? being too fucking hot ? __________________ Daddy Strokes - mature men stroking their meat Mature Gay Movies - mature men fucking everyone! Pleasing Daddy - young girls fucking mature men Looking for submitter accounts for older men niche content (both gay and straight) so hit me up if you run a tube and offer submitter accounts for paysites.

08-03-2006, 03:48 AM	#25
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	A long time ago in a land not so far away... The DWB was born and raised in Cincinnati, Ohio - and as many of you know, that is ground zero for bible thumping, god loving politicians who love to unjustly derail adult businesses. This is where Larry Flynt started... and you all know how that ended. I have been through my fair share of stupid shit there, including being zoned out of the city for running an adult business... and fought them in court for my right to remain there. I spent a whole lot of money, MY MONEY (no donations), to get the job done. And then the next year they changed some words in the law and did it all over again. But then in a divine moment of clarity... I realized that it was not worth the hassle and had no ROI. It was never going to end, so I fucking moved. And The DWB lived happily ever after. End of story. The moral of this story: If you are in adult, living in the Midwest, and getting harassed... MOVE. Last edited by DWB; 08-03-2006 at 03:49 AM..

08-03-2006, 03:50 AM	#26
Double L Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: US Posts: 349	Fantastic for her likely.... Court on a little charge and the the massive publicity exposure. Massive local exposure, USA Today, CNN = $$$. I'd keep stirring up that money pot for all its worth. I dont feel bad for her. You think she's really fighting for a cause to be able to be nude in public... In Nebraska? Im not saying the cops are right, I barely remember the video where she was in a bar.. They said she had clear pasties on or something... The same stuff has happened in my state with strip clubs... Its the law here. More power to her if she wants to fight it or use it to drum up publicity and sales.

08-03-2006, 04:07 AM	#29
Double L Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: US Posts: 349	She's not stupid.. All minor charges from what I see... Naked pics taken in a bar and posted on her website, being nude in a bar again... again... whatever. Strange how many think its about her fighting or being treated unfairly. It's about money and the publicity. She's smart enough to even promote that on her own site and Im sure it pulls even more for her beyond just the free attention to it. From her site linking to all the publicity: http://50.lycos.com/010604.asp Who the fuck was Paris Hilton until her sex tape? I had never heard of her until after that. Marketing vs Fighting for a cause imho. She's a hottie and all this is making her bank. Cant blame her for sticking with it.