1 guy and a backpack could have blown wtc

[SmokeyTheBear]

I remember people debating 9/11 and how the wtc towers came down .

I remember quite a few people saying how the towers couldn't have been taken down by bombe because you would need teams of people to plant bombs etc. and it would have been noticed

they recently demolished the biggest building in philly or something . they said it took less than 200lbs of explosives..

so 1 guy with a backpack could have planted the bombs in a few hours .


food for thought..

[Brother Bilo]

200 lbs of explosive planted in key structural points in the building, not just in a backpack walking through the front door.

Come on now.

[CyberHustler]

I think it takes more than that to make the towers "come down"... I mean, a guy with a back pack could make a big mess but I doubt it would make those towers collapse...

[StuartD]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

so 1 guy with a backpack could have planted the bombs in a few hours .

Precision explosives in key points detonated at precise intervals by demolitions experts....

not quite the same thing.

[PR_Paul]

Doubtful man real doubtful. The towers were constructed with an iron and concrete core. So this one man with a backpack would mean the backpack would need to have a saw that he could cut all the cores with and drills to place the explosives in the concrete. Then the pounds upon pounds of explosives. That is a ridiculous statement unless you replace "guy" with superman and "backpack" with trailer. Then also I think someone would notice this "guy" cutting the cores and drilling the holes that may raise a red flag.

[ADL Josh]

here we go again.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

200 lbs of explosive planted in key structural points in the building, not just in a backpack walking through the front door.

Come on now.

lol well i didnt say he could have done it easily .. but it could be done without attracting a shitload of attention.. when they pull buildings they usually do days of "pre-work" like cutting the columns and stuff, but you have to figure alot of that is to ensure the entire building is destryoyed and lands in the basement for easy cleanup and little effect to any surrounding buildings. This would be something not too important if you were taking down wtc.

for the record i think it was shitty construction that brought them down , and admitting that makes america seem partially to blame..



on a totally unrealted but interesting note. Years ago I worked on a crew for security on a building that was being demolished in edmonton alberta. It wasnt a very big building but they had about 6-8 guys doing the work it looked like, but could prob have been done by 1 guy

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by PR_Paul

Doubtful man real doubtful. The towers were constructed with an iron and concrete core. So this one man with a backpack would mean the backpack would need to have a saw that he could cut all the cores with and drills to place the explosives in the concrete. Then the pounds upon pounds of explosives. That is a ridiculous statement unless you replace "guy" with superman and "backpack" with trailer. Then also I think someone would notice this "guy" cutting the cores and drilling the holes that may raise a red flag.

you dont nec NEED to do it that way . as i pointed out above , most of this work is done to ENSURE a clean take down..

if it wasnt explosives then it was just a large container of kerosene and it came down nice and clean..

guess all those drills and shit arent needed if you just toss a container of kerosene near the top of the building


anyways as i said above i dont think it was explosives anyways i think it wa sjust shitty construction , the point is that if 6 proffesional building demolishers could do it the right way , then its quite possible 1 really good guy could do it the wrong way and accomplish the same goal..

[SmokeyTheBear]

Originally Posted by Cyber-Hu$tler

I think it takes more than that to make the towers "come down"... I mean, a guy with a back pack could make a big mess but I doubt it would make those towers collapse...

if 6 guys working 1 day can do it , couldnt 1 guy working 6 days do it ? especially if he was an expert

[Quagmire]

Imagine what a guy with a vendor cart could do


"Mountain Dew, or Crab Juice?"

[fluffygrrl]

a 200lb backpack isn't "A guy".

I think itd be fairly noticeable if hulk hogan comes in and starts stickign shit to structural beams.

[Phoenix]

what about the teams of peole laying new"internet" cable the weekend before

and the massive amount of work being done all over the building

so much so that dust covered everyeons computers building wide each morning.


fuck man...i get riled up about this shit

[Phoenix]

ah i see..no one wants to know about truth

[gleem]

I heard some conspiracy nutz say the George bush was actually flying one of the planes since he was trained to fly jets in Vietnam, and then he jumped out of the plane after setting it on autopilot to hit the WTC.. lol, fuckin nuts

[Brother Bilo]

I still think it's funny that some people can't just see things for the way they are. Sometimes, shit really just happens the way it happens. Not saying that there isn't a conspiricy in this instance, I just think it's funny that everything is a conspiracy now.

[jeffrey]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

lol well i didnt say he could have done it easily .. but it could be done without attracting a shitload of attention.. when they pull buildings they usually do days of "pre-work" like cutting the columns and stuff, but you have to figure alot of that is to ensure the entire building is destryoyed and lands in the basement for easy cleanup and little effect to any surrounding buildings. This would be something not too important if you were taking down wtc.

for the record i think it was shitty construction that brought them down , and admitting that makes america seem partially to blame..

First, what building in Edmonton here? you still live here?

They cut and do that demo so less explosives have to be used, the less explosives the less chance of colateral damage. When buildings that arnt around anything else get demo'ed there isnt near as much pre work, they just use more explosives and clear a bigger area for the safe zone.

To think that 40+ year old construction standards didnt play some roll would jsut be silly, when the towers were built they couldnt test as much as they do now, nor did they ever think fully fuelled airliners twice the size of any they currently had would be crashing into the buildings.

Dont forget in 93 when 1500lbs were exploded near important structural supports and that only put a hole in 5 floors.
Dont foget at the bottom was where the most reinforced collumns were.

Demo'ing a 5 story building with a single elevator is different then 110 stories with 12+ elevators. I highly doubt even the most skilled demo crews could take it down with 200lbs. Even with the shape charges that they use.

Originally Posted by Phoenix

what about the teams of peole laying new"internet" cable the weekend before

and the massive amount of work being done all over the building

so much so that dust covered everyeons computers building wide each morning.


fuck man...i get riled up about this shit

Oh shit, old building getting updated... its that means its going to explode then I know alot of building thats are coming down.
The building with our office in it is getting new wireing, and we have to have cleaning staff come in every morning befor the employees because there is so much dust and they arent even working directing around our unit yet.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Brother Bilo

I still think it's funny that some people can't just see things for the way they are. Sometimes, shit really just happens the way it happens. Not saying that there isn't a conspiricy in this instance, I just think it's funny that everything is a conspiracy now.

what else is a conspriacy?

[Xplicit]

Actually if you listen to the NYPD radio transmissions that day a police officer inside WTC helping evacuate people reported spotting a suspicious device that he believed was a bomb that would lead to a secondary explosion. This is all recorded.

Unfortunately he was too late and the building came down minutes later.

Then CNN, Fox, CBS, and MSNBC's on-site reporters ALL reported bombs going off before the building collapsed.
(>>> Best video of the first bomb going off)
....for some reason this same documentry has re-aired with this footage taken out... why?

I'll admit that when 9/11 conspiracy stuff started coming out I was one of the people bashing them. The more I looked into it I came to the conclusion that only a complete idiot could believe the official government story.

I know some of you have been bashing 9/11 truth for awhile, and its hard to change sides, it hurts the ego a bit to admit you were wrong and many of you are just incapable of doing so, no matter how ignorant you look.

[ronaldo]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

what else is a conspriacy?

The moon landing, no?

[Dollarmansteve]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

what about the teams of peole laying new"internet" cable the weekend before

and the massive amount of work being done all over the building

so much so that dust covered everyeons computers building wide each morning.


fuck man...i get riled up about this shit

ockham's razor.

[ronaldo]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

what else is a conspriacy?

Republicans getting elected.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve

ockham's razor.

more like opiate for the masses

[st0ned]

It was our own government... No doubt in my mind

[OY]

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

I remember people debating 9/11 and how the wtc towers came down .

I remember quite a few people saying how the towers couldn't have been taken down by bombe because you would need teams of people to plant bombs etc. and it would have been noticed

they recently demolished the biggest building in philly or something . they said it took less than 200lbs of explosives..

so 1 guy with a backpack could have planted the bombs in a few hours .


food for thought..

Smokey, are you smoking?