MSNBC is running right now the 9/11 as it happened...

[Juicy D. Links]

Just like it happened...


amazing

[StickyGreen]

lol holy shit. Thanks for the heads up juicy. I just turned to msnbc and it was showing the 2nd plane hit.

If any of you think any building could withstand something like that and remain standing you are a fucking idiot.

[_mC_]

Did you see the Falling Man special? Freaky!

[BetChips]

thanks dude

[tony286]

its time to let it rest, we cant heal as a nation if we dont move forward.

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by tony404

its time to let it rest

Good luck with that. They're gonna keep beating it into our brains every year.

[Vasago Reno]

Originally Posted by tony404

its time to let it rest, we cant heal as a nation if we dont move forward.

Healing and moving forward can also include never forgetting.

[dav3]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

lol holy shit. Thanks for the heads up juicy. I just turned to msnbc and it was showing the 2nd plane hit.

If any of you think any building could withstand something like that and remain standing you are a fucking idiot.

Actually, the buildings were built to withstand planes crashing into them.

In 1945 a U.S. Army B-25 bomber crashed into the empire state building. It's still standing.
http://history1900s.about.com/od/194...crash.htm?rd=1

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by dav3

Actually, the buildings were built to withstand planes crashing into them.

In 1945 a U.S. Army B-25 bomber crashed into the empire state building. It's still standing.
http://history1900s.about.com/od/194...crash.htm?rd=1

Get the fuck out of here. I'm so sick of this shit. You 9/11 truthers have NOTHING TO STAND ON. There is no fucking proof of any foul play so shut the fuck up until you can actually find some.

I don't give a fuck what that building was "built to withstand," there is no way that massive structure was going to remain standing after an enormous chunk was cut out of the side, not to mention fires bigger than you can imagine. How the hell is tons and tons and tons of the top part of the buildings going to remain in tact when below there is an inferno melting away all of the support? I think it was pretty obvious that the top part was going to eventually implode on the rest of the building. Everyone watches the fires from the helicopter camera views but they have no idea how insanely massive those fires were up there. Each floor of those buildings was like a miniature city.

[pocketkangaroo]

Originally Posted by dav3

Actually, the buildings were built to withstand planes crashing into them.

In 1945 a U.S. Army B-25 bomber crashed into the empire state building. It's still standing.
http://history1900s.about.com/od/194...crash.htm?rd=1

Seriously, lets keep the "truther" shit out of this.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by Vasago Reno

Healing and moving forward can also include never forgetting.

How can we its a tool to control the masses .

[Matt 26z]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

There is no fucking proof of any foul play so shut the fuck up until you can actually find some.

Actually there is a mountain of evidence, and new information is always being found. It's just a matter of forming all of it into a theory that holds water. Something that may take decades. Just about the only thing we know for sure right now is that there is more to 9/11 than the official story.

Loose Change was the first big "9/11 truth" attempt, but I think even the most devout conspiracy theorist watches that movie now and cringes. There have been better movies and websites since then. Each subsequent explanation will be more difficult to argue with than the last because the criticism of past explanations are constantly being addressed.

If someone had said just after the JFK assassination that the US government was involved, very few Americans would have listened. However today the theories are polished and about 50% of Americans believe the government did indeed play a role in his death.

While rough today, the 9/11 theories are very likely to follow that same path.

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Actually there is a mountain of evidence

I love conspiracies. My favorite is the supposed alien cover-up. I have researched the 9/11 conspiracy much more than the average person, and I have yet to see any concrete evidence that would prove that 9/11 was an inside job. The whole conspiracy is based on a bunch of bullshit. A bunch of idiots who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground running around saying dumb shit like "fire doesn't melt steel" and "buildings wouldn't fall like that." It's so played out... let it go...

[beemk]

i think a b52 bomber is a little different than the plane that hit the world trade center, plus im sure the fuel alone did most of the damage when it exploded.

[Fap]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

If any of you think any building could withstand something like that and remain standing you are a fucking idiot.

They were meant to withstain multiple plane hits..

[BSleazy]

Originally Posted by banthis

They were meant to withstain multiple plane hits..

Where did they test commercial air liners hitting a building of that size???

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by banthis

They were meant to withstain multiple plane hits..

So fucking what? I was "meant" to graduate college in 4 years... doesn't mean it worked out that way...

[mikeyddddd]

It's just as shocking and chilling to watch it again as it was when I saw it the first time.

[pocketkangaroo]

The thing with conspiracy theories is that they don't require any evidence. They are rarely backed up by credible people and are usually perpetrated by people who have no knowledge of the incident or credible educational background to discuss it. It's funny to see someone flock to a YouTube video by a guy in his parent's basement with no educational background, while completely ignoring reports by actual fucking engineers and scientists who have dedicated their lives to the study of this stuff.

But it'll never stop and will probably grow as the internet does. Whether it's aliens, fake moon landings, assasination, 9/11, terrorist attacks, etc, people will believe it. There are still idiots out there who believe in the lockness monster after the fucking creator of the video said it was a fucking hoax.

[dav3]

Originally Posted by beemk

i think a b52 bomber is a little different than the plane that hit the world trade center, plus im sure the fuel alone did most of the damage when it exploded.

It's a B-25 bomber, and of course it is different, granted the airliner used jet fuel. Plus, you would figure, building materials/engineering would have advanced a little bit from the time the empire state building was built (1930), to the time that the first tower was built (1966).

Jet A-1 (Boeing 757 Fuel)
Open air burning temperatures: 260-315 °C (500-599 °F)
Maximum burning temperature: 980 °C (1796 °F)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jet_fuel

Melting Point of Steel: about 2,700 degrees Fahrenheit
http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

[StickyGreen]

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo

The thing with conspiracy theories is that they don't require any evidence. They are rarely backed up by credible people

That's why I like the alien conspiracy so much. There is a lot of evidence (radar, air visual, ground visuals) and hundreds upon hundreds of credible ex military and government officials who have come forward with what they know. The 9/11 conspiracy has nothing like that.

[StickyGreen]

Shut the fuck up about the B-25 bomber. The B-25 bomber obviously wasn't being flown in the same manner as a plane that was meant to crash into a building at full thrust.

[NinjaSteve]

Originally Posted by BCyber

Where did they test commercial air liners hitting a building of that size???

They tested this in underground facilities in New Mexico. I saw it on the internet.

[dav3]

http://thewebfairy.com/911/pentagon/