TopBucks E-mail Regarding Tube Sites

[Socks]

Just got this e-mail from TopBucks, and I thought it was a good gesture to their other affiliates, and also that they've taken the time to outline where, what and how their content may be used for promotions.

I know some of you will still disagree with their decisions below, but I think having a detailed stance is better than none.

Still curious how sites like Megarotic are on the safe list, considering the gobs of stolen content available there.

As far as I know this is the first e-mail I've ever received from a program outlining their stance, so for that, good on ya topbucks!

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Dear Webmasters,
With tube sites being the wave of promoting adult sites, we would like explain what is
allowed/not allowed regarding promoting TopBucks sites on tube sites.

The following viral marketing sites are approved but limited to no more than 2 minute clips:
FILECABI.NET
FUCKINHORNY.COM
HARDSEXTUBE.COM
MEGAROTIC.COM
PORNOTUBE.COM
REDTUBE.COM
SNIZZSHARE.COM
TRAILERSBYNICHE.COM
VIDEOSLACKER.COM
XTUBE.COM
XXXFILMFINDER.COM
YOUPORN.COM
YOURPORNTUBE.COM

Torrent sites are banned from distributing more than 1 minute clips of content to promote
TopBucks sites.

The following viral marketing sites are banned from distributing TopBucks content:
BADONGO.COM
RAPIDSHARE.COM
SEEMYORGASM.COM
WANKTUBE.COM
XXXUPLOADS.COM

The purpose of short video clips is to lure the surfer into joining the site. Showing to much
content defeats this purpose. In addition, the video clips cannot be altered in any way. This
includes removing our PinkVisual and/or site name watermarks or adding any watermarks/site
domain names of your own.

These terms can be found on our terms page under section 2.7. Any webmaster that violates
these terms will have their account terminated and all funds will be forfeited.

If you have any questions regarding the above, please contact your TopBucks representative
or email [email protected]

Thank you for your understanding,
The TopBucks Staff

[FredIsMe]

Good stuff. Go Tube sites

[TopBucksPaul]

Originally Posted by Socks

Just got this e-mail from TopBucks, and I thought it was a good gesture to their other affiliates, and also that they've taken the time to outline where, what and how their content may be used for promotions.

I know some of you will still disagree with their decisions below, but I think having a detailed stance is better than none.

Still curious how sites like Megarotic are on the safe list, considering the gobs of stolen content available there.

As far as I know this is the first e-mail I've ever received from a program outlining their stance, so for that, good on ya topbucks!

Thanks for the Kind Words! We Try!

[sortie]

Great email!

I have been going back and forth in another thread about what makes a
"Legit tube Site" and this email clears that up.

"Legit tube site" means following the rules in that email.

See sig for a legit tube script.

[pip]

Too legit to shit

[WiredGuy]

I wonder what the tube sites did in the blacklist to get blacklisted.
WG

[Zebra]

Rapidshare isn't really a tube site, but there is still a shitload of pirated porn on it.

[teksonline]

can you clarify this?

So any content can be taken and put up in 2 minute spurts?

[tranza]

I just saw that rule on their site... I've GOT to start promoting paysites through Tube sites....

[seeric]

ok, someone explain to me how an affiliate goes about promoting on megarotic?

they cant add or change a watermark, they can't link to a site with an affiliate code. does anyone actually think that megarotic is going to allow 5000 webmasters to upload 2:00 clips as part of their producer program even? they aren't the rights holders.

i know why this went out, and all programs should have a written stance on it, but for 99% of these sites listed, trying to use them with small tiny clips when the full movies are already on that network is silly. those people have worked long and hard getting our full length shit on there and i can tell you that when the dmcas start coming in for titles and series, there will be someone pulling down all the 2:00 stuff, trust me.

:orglaugh

*what is going to happen is once these networks start seeing us devaluing their sites that are predominantly full length scenes with our spammy 2 minute clips of 1 minute 45 seconds of lead in and 15 seconds of sex, they will mass delete anything under 2:00. uploading 2:00 clips to those sites is retarded. when you start changing the percentage of long ass clips to short ass ones by the volume of 2:00 clips going up, mark my words, they are not going to allow us to detract from their hard work of stealing all our shit and driving people to it that don't want to pay anyhow. those sites are not going to allow us, (the very people who fucking made them bank), to turn their free porn paradises into mgps. not gonna happen. keep dreaming.

keep taking SE rankings, keep hitting google with dmcas to take your serps back, keep fighting the battle. thats all you can hope for until laws are changed. repealing the dmca and rewriting it is one of the very few ways that anything is going to happen, and even then, on the global level in cases like pirate bay where they are in a country with no respect to our copyrights, what you gonna do then. WIPO needs to get involved. This industry needs lobbyists. Plain and simple.

snizzshare.com IS so far the only legitimate tube site with any kind of traffic that actually works, and i've seen with a legitimate business model. i know, my content is on there and it actually does do sales. if there are more, and not this "WITH TRAFFIC" i will upload our stuff there to help add some more equity to your inventory of vids. 1000 hits a day is not traffic. i know theres gonna be 10000s of you that are gonna start these tube sites now, but i just dont have the manpower to upload stuff to them unless they already have established traffic like jays does. if you want to snake the free content yourself and be your own affiliate on the smaller ones, that is fine.

what i see us having to do is uprade the free porn network to 2.0 to confuse and guide all those people to the new communities that mimick tube sites and torrent sites. build the existing MGP community into TEVS style sites with business models that work for us the community. the more you can confuse the consumer away from the bad networks, the better for everyone, but its gonna be hard to confuse them without adapting and innovating. i applaud TEVS for their software. i think they will make money hand over fist if they approach mgps into converting to TEVS. it really is what i would call the new MGP model and they can make a killing if they do a good job marketing the TEVS software to MGP owners to upgrade to 2.0 environment.

torrent and tube sites wont be the end of the paysite business, but they sure are one pain in ass.

we will be adopting a policy pretty much to the effect of what topbucks has laid out here, just for the record, and to say we did it.

i didn't mean to go off on a tangent, i just don't see these big thief sites allowing us to flood their valuable full length sites with our little tiny "hey go buy me" kinda shit that you cant beat off too.

happy new year everyone.

[Socks]

When I'm reincarnated, I want to be anything but Air3k's keyboard... ;)

Good post man, I think you make a lot of good points! I believe we'll be seeing more of these e-mails too. Interested to get your take on my similarly long ass post in the rude.com thread (bottom of page 4) as well, if you have another 25 minutes...

[Xrated J]

thats good to know

[blogman9]

good news.

[leedsfan]

not only snizzshare doing well. www.Sex2ube.com has been consistently growing and we offer only 60-90 second clips promoting sponsor content, clicking through to their sites. Plenty of programs allow us to use their content, if you aren't on the list hit me up.http://www.sex2ube.com

[Zorgman]

Good to see a sponsor finally stand up to those tube sites that offer way too much. If a surfer can get himself off with promo content then were lose that sale. Keep the clips small and just a tease. Good work TopBucks.

[munki]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

ok, someone explain to me how an affiliate goes about promoting on megarotic?

they cant add or change a watermark, they can't link to a site with an affiliate code. does anyone actually think that megarotic is going to allow 5000 webmasters to upload 2:00 clips as part of their producer program even? they aren't the rights holders.

i know why this went out, and all programs should have a written stance on it, but for 99% of these sites listed, trying to use them with small tiny clips when the full movies are already on that network is silly. those people have worked long and hard getting our full length shit on there and i can tell you that when the dmcas start coming in for titles and series, there will be someone pulling down all the 2:00 stuff, trust me.

:orglaugh

*what is going to happen is once these networks start seeing us devaluing their sites that are predominantly full length scenes with our spammy 2 minute clips of 1 minute 45 seconds of lead in and 15 seconds of sex, they will mass delete anything under 2:00. uploading 2:00 clips to those sites is retarded. when you start changing the percentage of long ass clips to short ass ones by the volume of 2:00 clips going up, mark my words, they are not going to allow us to detract from their hard work of stealing all our shit and driving people to it that don't want to pay anyhow. those sites are not going to allow us, (the very people who fucking made them bank), to turn their free porn paradises into mgps. not gonna happen. keep dreaming.

keep taking SE rankings, keep hitting google with dmcas to take your serps back, keep fighting the battle. thats all you can hope for until laws are changed. repealing the dmca and rewriting it is one of the very few ways that anything is going to happen, and even then, on the global level in cases like pirate bay where they are in a country with no respect to our copyrights, what you gonna do then. WIPO needs to get involved. This industry needs lobbyists. Plain and simple.

snizzshare.com IS so far the only legitimate tube site with any kind of traffic that actually works, and i've seen with a legitimate business model. i know, my content is on there and it actually does do sales. if there are more, and not this "WITH TRAFFIC" i will upload our stuff there to help add some more equity to your inventory of vids. 1000 hits a day is not traffic. i know theres gonna be 10000s of you that are gonna start these tube sites now, but i just dont have the manpower to upload stuff to them unless they already have established traffic like jays does. if you want to snake the free content yourself and be your own affiliate on the smaller ones, that is fine.

what i see us having to do is uprade the free porn network to 2.0 to confuse and guide all those people to the new communities that mimick tube sites and torrent sites. build the existing MGP community into TEVS style sites with business models that work for us the community. the more you can confuse the consumer away from the bad networks, the better for everyone, but its gonna be hard to confuse them without adapting and innovating. i applaud TEVS for their software. i think they will make money hand over fist if they approach mgps into converting to TEVS. it really is what i would call the new MGP model and they can make a killing if they do a good job marketing the TEVS software to MGP owners to upgrade to 2.0 environment.

torrent and tube sites wont be the end of the paysite business, but they sure are one pain in ass.

we will be adopting a policy pretty much to the effect of what topbucks has laid out here, just for the record, and to say we did it.

i didn't mean to go off on a tangent, i just don't see these big thief sites allowing us to flood their valuable full length sites with our little tiny "hey go buy me" kinda shit that you cant beat off too.

happy new year everyone.

You should've seen me when I finished reading that...

I think my girl got worried...

I started frantically cheering, and even a personal standing ovation with encore for my computer monitor..

Way to lay it out dood...

[CarlosTheGaucho]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

ok, someone explain to me how an affiliate goes about promoting on megarotic?

they cant add or change a watermark, they can't link to a site with an affiliate code. does anyone actually think that megarotic is going to allow 5000 webmasters to upload 2:00 clips as part of their producer program even? they aren't the rights holders.

i know why this went out, and all programs should have a written stance on it, but for 99% of these sites listed, trying to use them with small tiny clips when the full movies are already on that network is silly. those people have worked long and hard getting our full length shit on there and i can tell you that when the dmcas start coming in for titles and series, there will be someone pulling down all the 2:00 stuff, trust me.

:orglaugh

*what is going to happen is once these networks start seeing us devaluing their sites that are predominantly full length scenes with our spammy 2 minute clips of 1 minute 45 seconds of lead in and 15 seconds of sex, they will mass delete anything under 2:00. uploading 2:00 clips to those sites is retarded. when you start changing the percentage of long ass clips to short ass ones by the volume of 2:00 clips going up, mark my words, they are not going to allow us to detract from their hard work of stealing all our shit and driving people to it that don't want to pay anyhow. those sites are not going to allow us, (the very people who fucking made them bank), to turn their free porn paradises into mgps. not gonna happen. keep dreaming.

keep taking SE rankings, keep hitting google with dmcas to take your serps back, keep fighting the battle. thats all you can hope for until laws are changed. repealing the dmca and rewriting it is one of the very few ways that anything is going to happen, and even then, on the global level in cases like pirate bay where they are in a country with no respect to our copyrights, what you gonna do then. WIPO needs to get involved. This industry needs lobbyists. Plain and simple.

snizzshare.com IS so far the only legitimate tube site with any kind of traffic that actually works, and i've seen with a legitimate business model. i know, my content is on there and it actually does do sales. if there are more, and not this "WITH TRAFFIC" i will upload our stuff there to help add some more equity to your inventory of vids. 1000 hits a day is not traffic. i know theres gonna be 10000s of you that are gonna start these tube sites now, but i just dont have the manpower to upload stuff to them unless they already have established traffic like jays does. if you want to snake the free content yourself and be your own affiliate on the smaller ones, that is fine.

what i see us having to do is uprade the free porn network to 2.0 to confuse and guide all those people to the new communities that mimick tube sites and torrent sites. build the existing MGP community into TEVS style sites with business models that work for us the community. the more you can confuse the consumer away from the bad networks, the better for everyone, but its gonna be hard to confuse them without adapting and innovating. i applaud TEVS for their software. i think they will make money hand over fist if they approach mgps into converting to TEVS. it really is what i would call the new MGP model and they can make a killing if they do a good job marketing the TEVS software to MGP owners to upgrade to 2.0 environment.

torrent and tube sites wont be the end of the paysite business, but they sure are one pain in ass.

we will be adopting a policy pretty much to the effect of what topbucks has laid out here, just for the record, and to say we did it.

i didn't mean to go off on a tangent, i just don't see these big thief sites allowing us to flood their valuable full length sites with our little tiny "hey go buy me" kinda shit that you cant beat off too.

happy new year everyone.

It's like you've nailed it and won another pepper vodka shot with me in Vegas

[D]

Originally Posted by Socks

When I'm reincarnated, I want to be anything but Air3k's keyboard... ;)

Airek is my hero.

Much <3.

[farkedup]

cool, going to hit ya up on ICQ about a feed for my tube script users... Just releasing V1.5 tonight and it has some extra sponsored video related features that I"m working on bringing in to get as many sponsored clips as possible.

[seeric]

haha. im not trying to win any awards here really folks. just hoping to help guide this industry and focus people a little bit. we will send our affils a policy as well, just because, well it makes sense to officially put your position out there on it. i included everything else i wrote as a personal opinion.

[sortie]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

Tubecgi....That's who came up with the tube site model you so approve off.

Somebody just copied my idea becasue they didn't like my templates.


See Sig.

[seeric]

Originally Posted by sortie

Tubecgi....That's who came up with the tube site model you so approve off.

Somebody just copied my idea becasue they didn't like my templates.


See Sig.

Take it as a compliment and find a way to monetize it. There will be 5 more "boxed" scripts like this out there in year.


So wasn't yours just a copy of Youtube, or they just beat you to the market?




Just fucking with you on the youtube comment. lol.

[papill0n]

Great to see TopBucks taking some proactive steps

[Sausage]

Originally Posted by WiredGuy

I wonder what the tube sites did in the blacklist to get blacklisted.
WG

In wanktube's case it was adding our logo to the videos.

Many of the approved ones do the same, so not sure whats up with that, but its their content so up to them

[sortie]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

Take it as a compliment and find a way to monetize it. There will be 5 more "boxed" scripts like this out there in year.


So wasn't yours just a copy of Youtube, or they just beat you to the market?




Just fucking with you on the youtube comment. lol.

I don't have any youtube features...so there!

[Zorgman]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

what i see us having to do is uprade the free porn network to 2.0 to confuse and guide all those people to the new communities that mimick tube sites and torrent sites. build the existing MGP community into TEVS style sites with business models that work for us the community. the more you can confuse the consumer away from the bad networks, the better for everyone, but its gonna be hard to confuse them without adapting and innovating. i applaud TEVS for their software. i think they will make money hand over fist if they approach mgps into converting to TEVS. it really is what i would call the new MGP model and they can make a killing if they do a good job marketing the TEVS software to MGP owners to upgrade to 2.0 environment.

Thanks A1R3K, I'm glad you like TEVS.

I would also be willing to give a discount to those webmasters that switch from running a MPG site to TEVS site. Please contact me. www.bigdotmedia.com

I'm working closly with lots of sponsors to bring my customers the best possible ways to import sponsors videos and providing the best solutions.

[chodadog]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

snizzshare.com IS so far the only legitimate tube site with any kind of traffic that actually works, and i've seen with a legitimate business model. i know, my content is on there and it actually does do sales. if there are more, and not this "WITH TRAFFIC" i will upload our stuff there to help add some more equity to your inventory of vids. 1000 hits a day is not traffic. i know theres gonna be 10000s of you that are gonna start these tube sites now, but i just dont have the manpower to upload stuff to them unless they already have established traffic like jays does. if you want to snake the free content yourself and be your own affiliate on the smaller ones, that is fine.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...3m&size=Medium

Hit me up on ICQ if you want to get your content added.

83032884

Or email [email protected]