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Old 10-30-2002, 12:48 PM   #1
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Fucking bullshit, first i sign up through a friend, made my 5 signups and he didnt make his 200 bucks for referring me, i got really pissed off at matt, he told me to resign up, and that he will get his 200 bucks, and i said i dont believe him that if i do that than what he will accuse me of cheating. i never did resign up, and made only 1 sale from 5 galleries later, when i made 5 sign ups with one gallery. 3 weeks later i still not paid, ask them why, i got a min payout of 1000, i email them and talked with another guy to change this, i get a email back saying my account is on hold causes i have no reffering url. which is cuases i made my galleries like this
http://www.myadultmovies.com/allpetite/apg1/
i called up this girl, quotes who studders like fuck cuases she cant make up fucking excuses fast enough. if your going to work for a company that likes to rip ppl off at least learn to do the shit right.
than she says i have to email someone else concerning this causes there are other reasons why im being accuses of fault sales and only this other person can tell me about it. whats with the bullshit. im sure i can contact over 200 fucking webmasters that will state that they have seen this gallery on there page, as well as my host that can prove i got traffic to these pages, and the whooping 330 bucks is only going to cover the shit i break from the anger i got from fucking ppl with there ripping ppl off.
is it causes i got no fucking food to eat causes visa and mastercard had to screwup my entire plans and i sold my other sites, that ppl have to stomp the fuck outta me.

whats this world coming to....
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Old 10-30-2002, 12:50 PM   #2
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ars is so fucking gay.... they cancelled me 2 years ago for sending too many signups to fast, taught me quick that they are a piece of shit organization
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Old 10-30-2002, 12:55 PM   #3
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What's with all the Ottawa people? Hello!

ARS? Hmmm...ratios suck ass but I will try their $75 signup day tomorrow. Sorry to hear about your experience! I use them very little!
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Old 10-30-2002, 12:58 PM   #4
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What's with all the Ottawa people? Hello!

ARS? Hmmm...ratios suck ass but I will try their $75 signup day tomorrow. Sorry to hear about your experience! I use them very little!
where in ottawa are you? i am up near C.U
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Old 10-30-2002, 01:23 PM   #5
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It could be me but it doesnt seem to me that you've been patient with ARS... Treat people like shit and they'll fuck you over that much faster... Im not saying that makes it right but shit like that happens.
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Old 10-30-2002, 01:48 PM   #6
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its totally why, its causes of my buddy not getting his 200 bucks that he depended on and i felt my friend was alot more important than ars, and i flipped out on matt and said i dont like the idea of resigning up causes he will say im a cheater. and that i dont care what he thinks of me, i am not his friend, i just send traffic and make sales. which of coarse i dug my own hole saying that, thou its not right that i dont get paid. if my status of money was normal, id be laughing my ass off right now, but right now i got spagetti noodle only, well maybe mustard and ketchup to eat. and that isnt funny. going to have to pawn some of my stuff soon.
pathetic..
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Old 10-30-2002, 01:58 PM   #7
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The webmaster referral tracking is fucked up.
I sent 72 webmasters to ars with a very targeted link (something like, click here to sign up for a great webmaster program which pays $35 per trial signup) and i didnt get paid for 1 person.

That means out of 72 people not 1 signs up and makes 5 sales. That is complete bullshit!
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Old 10-30-2002, 02:00 PM   #8
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I send a lot of traffic through ARS.

1) I've never missed a check, although I've had a check or 2 delayed for "investigation".

2) Ratios are quite good for me, for what I promote. No idea about retention however. I can only speculate that its poor.

3) As of late they've been fucking around with trial lengths, etc and there has been absolutely no communication about it, no approval, etc. For webmasters like myself who put the price and length of trial in the links this completely destroys our integrity, etc.

ARS could improve in many ways, but I think they are decent. I hope you get your shit sorted out man.
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Old 10-30-2002, 02:01 PM   #9
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WTF kind of linking code is this?
http://www.allpetite.com/join.php?p=...&a=1010202

ARS's TOS states that they will pay you for sales generated by signups referred through your linking code.
That's not your linking code.
You clicked your code, clicked to the join page, and then copied the URL off of the join page instead of using the code they gave you to link to the join page.
If any affiliate in any per sign up program had no referring url tracked for any of their sales their account would be put on hold.

Of course things just wouldn't be the same around here if someone wasn't bashing ARS on a daily basis.
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Old 10-30-2002, 02:13 PM   #10
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i copied the tour page my ref code sent me to, and made galleries with that layout
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Old 10-30-2002, 02:15 PM   #11
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I like ARS -

If you already had an ARS account - you can't signup under someone else and expect to give him $200 - everyone would be doing that .

So don't accuse them of cheating if you happen to be trying to bend the rules yourself
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I like ARS -

If you already had an ARS account - you can't signup under someone else and expect to give him $200 - everyone would be doing that .

So don't accuse them of cheating if you happen to be trying to bend the rules yourself
ah Gramma, this GFY, there's no place for logic or reason ;))))
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lmao

Sykk .. i love beating my head against a brick wall!
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i signed up once and he didnt get the 200 bucks, matt told me to sign up again, i did but didnt change my linking code causes i didnt want shit for it
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i copied the tour page my ref code sent me to, and made galleries with that layout
Do you do the same with sponsors that use only cookie tracking?
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Old 10-30-2002, 02:34 PM   #16
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maybe i should keep ranting about shit here..
************* i bought content from him 1200us from him for 12 series, i am now trying to sell it cheap cuases like you see i need the money, he is telling me i need to give him 200 bucks to change the rights over to someone else. i got ppl wanting to buy like 2 series at a time, but i cant give him 200 bucks for each person, id be paying him more money. as well as he is not answering me or is he around on icq. I asked a lawyer about this cuases im not sure how things work, and i see this money back garunteed on his site which is funny cuases i know its not true. supposely i cant do a thing causes i did not receive any papers saying i have the rights to this content. so really all i did was hand him over 1200 bucks. thou he wouldnt send me anything till he got the money, and now i dont get anything but a ftp to the content. reason i post this is causes this cost me alot of money to learn something stupid, and ever wonder why some ppl rather steal content than to buy it? im safer stealing it.
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maybe i should keep ranting about shit here..
************* i bought content from him 1200us from him for 12 series, i am now trying to sell it cheap cuases like you see i need the money, he is telling me i need to give him 200 bucks to change the rights over to someone else. i got ppl wanting to buy like 2 series at a time, but i cant give him 200 bucks for each person, id be paying him more money. as well as he is not answering me or is he around on icq. I asked a lawyer about this cuases im not sure how things work, and i see this money back garunteed on his site which is funny cuases i know its not true. supposely i cant do a thing causes i did not receive any papers saying i have the rights to this content. so really all i did was hand him over 1200 bucks. thou he wouldnt send me anything till he got the money, and now i dont get anything but a ftp to the content. reason i post this is causes this cost me alot of money to learn something stupid, and ever wonder why some ppl rather steal content than to buy it? im safer stealing it.
You expect to use the content, get 5+ signups then you want your money back? Is that a joke?

You have a screw loose.
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Do you do the same with sponsors that use only cookie tracking?

actually first paysite i tried selling besides avs sites and my own shit. wonder why visa and mastercard are so harsh about shit when there are so many ppl that like to rip ppl off in this business, and they are getting the rep for it.
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maybe i should keep ranting about shit here..
************* i bought content from him 1200us from him for 12 series, i am now trying to sell it cheap cuases like you see i need the money, he is telling me i need to give him 200 bucks to change the rights over to someone else. i got ppl wanting to buy like 2 series at a time, but i cant give him 200 bucks for each person, id be paying him more money. as well as he is not answering me or is he around on icq. I asked a lawyer about this cuases im not sure how things work, and i see this money back garunteed on his site which is funny cuases i know its not true. supposely i cant do a thing causes i did not receive any papers saying i have the rights to this content. so really all i did was hand him over 1200 bucks. thou he wouldnt send me anything till he got the money, and now i dont get anything but a ftp to the content. reason i post this is causes this cost me alot of money to learn something stupid, and ever wonder why some ppl rather steal content than to buy it? im safer stealing it.
are you kidding? you bought content, and you mentioned nothing about being unsatisfied by the content.

but you want a refund because you're having money troubles now?

bwahahaha
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haha i didnt use it yet
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i never said i wanted my money back, causes i know i wont get it, otherwise i wouldnt be trying to sell it, i nevered did get to use it, except that one clip on a gallery. im trying to sell it for what ever i can get for it. i had the shit for like 4 weeks made a site and than the visa rules came about and i just didnt bother. and i do need money yes. i just said that i didnt get papers with the content and i dont know what rules are about reselling it, and basically he can tell me to give him 90% if he wanted to, or just screw around with me some more
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i never said i wanted my money back, causes i know i wont get it, otherwise i wouldnt be trying to sell it, i nevered did get to use it, except that one clip on a gallery. im trying to sell it for what ever i can get for it. i had the shit for like 4 weeks made a site and than the visa rules came about and i just didnt bother. and i do need money yes. i just said that i didnt get papers with the content and i dont know what rules are about reselling it, and basically he can tell me to give him 90% if he wanted to, or just screw around with me some more
jesus christ. of course you can't fucking sell it without his permission. it's not yours to sell.

pathetic.

http://*************/license1.htm - tough to find lol.
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are you kidding? you bought content, and you mentioned nothing about being unsatisfied by the content.

but you want a refund because you're having money troubles now?

also why would i mention i think the content is the worst shit ive ever seen when im trying to resell the shit. " yeah me trying to rip someone else off" at least ill offer a fair price, hell in about 1 more hour im about to give it all for free to anyone who asks for it. the content is very amateur, color sucks, girls are ugly, scenes cut off, he says i can put all the pieces together.. when its impossible, unless he left some parts out from me. so yes im not happy with it. but i figured i bought amateur shit, and i got amateur shit.
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i did not see that url, thanks thou.
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hell in about 1 more hour im about to give it all for free to anyone who asks for it.
you do realize that's illegal right? you're an idiot.

i'll be sure to have someone make him aware of this pathetic thread...
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WTF kind of linking code is this?
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That php piece incorporates info from ONE visit only... if you send everyone through that particular code you will get terminated, since it makes your signups look like only ONE person signed up 5 times.
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also im posting here to learn, like i said i dont know how shit goes, i figured when i buy content and i dont want it anymore, or say i sell my site i can sell it as in change the rights over to the new owner. i figured its my content. hell i pay enough for it. when i say sell it i dont mean, i can sell it to 100 ppl, i mean change the rights over to the new owner. i dont understand why he makes money off that. its just a matter of changing a name.
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you do realize that's illegal right? you're an idiot.

i'll be sure to have someone make him aware of this pathetic thread...

illegal hehe im joking for fuck sakes, relaxs
i cant be serious for too long. than again IM NOT ALLOW TO RESELL IT. im allowed to make galleries with it use it on 5 domains, ill just post lots of free samples. just saying the damn shit is now useless to me. its no big deal, and you can contact him, causes i cant get a hold of him. like i said i dont even know what im allowed to do with the damn shit, besides look at a url on the web saying i own the rights to this stuff, and i paid alot of money and i am allowed to look at it. "i think"
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ok i just read the rules to this content, you got to be kidding, im definatly lost to what im allowed to use it for, way to many rules to follow. so can you please contact sobegirl for me, cuases i need to ask him questions and find out what i can do or not.
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Sorry man, got buried in reviews and submits.

I'm in the Bank/Hunt Club area!


where in ottawa are you? i am up near C.U
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How confused are you? Dude, smoke a joint and watch some TV or something. I got stressed out just reading this thread. Back to making porn now. GFY sure is fun.
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I fucked that post above up. lol

Like I said, I'm in the Bank/Hunt Club area, near the airport.
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Like I said, I'm in the Bank/Hunt Club area, near the airport.

ahaha scary...... Bank/Heron here
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Hey, I am sorry to hear that you are not happy with the purchase you got from me. I have been in this biz for about 3 years now. By this time I have not recieved one complaint. Juat because I dont answer my ICQ does not mean I am not around. I have been away from my office for the last week but will return tomorrow. You never sent me an email which I am checking every day. I do have a money back guarantee and honor it. And I quote from the SoBeGirl website..

"If you are unhappy and have a legitimate complaint SobeGirl will refund your money, no questions asked. "

YOu have to have a legitimae complaint. Not just, that you are not making money and want your money back. And as far as the quality? Nobody gives more free video samples, showing what the content set will be like, than I do. Because of this fact SoBeGirl uses at least a gig of bandwidth a day because of this fact.

And the fucking license?? There is a link to it right on my site. Print it out, fill in the first and last pages and fax back to me. I will sign and return to you. I tell everyone the same thing.

Look, you are upset because you wanted an adult site and you wanted to make money. I would be fucking pissed too if I invested and did not show results. But I think that you need to be more patient and lower your expectations a little.

Dont think of your adult website endeavors as a way of replacing your job. At least not at this point. If you make websites part time, and they erarn you like 200 bucks extra each week, that is cool. Maybe they will earn more? It all depends on how good your skills are.

www.bravegirls.com makes thousands. It is simple but well done. Let me make one other point that you may not like. You got into this biz possibly at the worst time in its history. Things are harder now and it costs more to stay in the game. But nothing is Ez and even in this biz, nothing happens overnight.

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Much MOre POrn,

Hey, I am sorry to hear that you are not happy with the purchase you got from me. I have been in this biz for about 3 years now. By this time I have not recieved one complaint. Juat because I dont answer my ICQ does not mean I am not around. I have been away from my office for the last week but will return tomorrow. You never sent me an email which I am checking every day. I do have a money back guarantee and honor it. And I quote from the SoBeGirl website..

"If you are unhappy and have a legitimate complaint SobeGirl will refund your money, no questions asked. "

YOu have to have a legitimae complaint. Not just, that you are not making money and want your money back. And as far as the quality? Nobody gives more free video samples, showing what the content set will be like, than I do. Because of this fact SoBeGirl uses at least a gig of bandwidth a day because of this fact.

And the fucking license?? There is a link to it right on my site. Print it out, fill in the first and last pages and fax back to me. I will sign and return to you. I tell everyone the same thing.

Look, you are upset because you wanted an adult site and you wanted to make money. I would be fucking pissed too if I invested and did not show results. But I think that you need to be more patient and lower your expectations a little.

Dont think of your adult website endeavors as a way of replacing your job. At least not at this point. If you make websites part time, and they erarn you like 200 bucks extra each week, that is cool. Maybe they will earn more? It all depends on how good your skills are.

www.bravegirls.com makes thousands. It is simple but well done. Let me make one other point that you may not like. You got into this biz possibly at the worst time in its history. Things are harder now and it costs more to stay in the game. But nothing is Ez and even in this biz, nothing happens overnight.

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he's not new to the industry.... He ran a few very large movieposts back in the day and sold them... Ones I bet lots of the people on this board have jerked off too!
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Old 10-30-2002, 06:38 PM   #37
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This is all old news, ARS is 1 of the most accussed of scamming sponsors on the net. There is always some webmaster that claims to be getting screwed by them, I would never trust them, they have a horrible reputation...
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Old 10-30-2002, 06:50 PM   #38
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hey there glad you replied, well the only reason i did not make the paysite is causes i have lost my id this summer, and havnt had the time to get it "need id to sign up with ibill " and the money back garunteed is ok, you are right about that, i was not aware of fee to change the rights over, im sorry. as for the content im happy to hear your content is great, i didnt mind some of it. reason i say its shit mostly is causes everyone that i asked to buy it says that, if you want i can post everyones complaint about you, but thats not my goal.

i simply wanted to know why i was getting charged 200 bucks to give the content to someone else. you never answer any questions i had, thou being a newbie at this part of the biz really fucked it up for me. the whole reason i never got along with you is causes i got no help, you also did not tell me about the papers, or the url to my rights, why would be be complaining here about it, if i knew. i would have simply said ok np.

i had a couple ppl tell me that they will buy the content, but i needed questions answered first.

ive been having a bad day and needed to bitch to ppl that would bitch back, and what better place to come than gofuckyourself.com

as for the content im not sure if it sells or not, i have not tried
i just bought it and and want to sell it, i need the money and content can wait for the time being causes its just sitting there. I am not in need of money as much as i may say, i just get paid later than i thought, and figured id rather not be late in paying my rent.

thou i should have nevered of mentioned that i was in need of money causes now everything comes back to just becauses you need money.....

i nevered asked for my money back just to make that clear. i said i dont believe this is true. the rules to that are a little tougher than if your not happy than you get your money back.
i just comment on that it was funny. i never expect to get my money back when purchasing something.

but anyways im going to quit with the bitching before i burn all the bridges i got, causes from this post i made it clear that bitching gets you nowhere. bad attitude will not work. I'm sure if i was a friend of yours, you would have helped me out in as many possible ways.
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Old 10-30-2002, 07:01 PM   #39
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p.s i am not new to the business either, i been in it for about 2 years now. thou not any experience with paysites. i was making 300 plus us a day, from my traffic sites and avs sites, thou, i wanted to try recurring causes i sold all my sites this summer paid off all my bills. and partied till i was nuts. or broke. decided i could try to make a paysite, but its just not my style, i got no experience with that stuff. the compatition is getting much larger, sales are also harder to make. just wanted to try something new, more honest, and more stable.
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Damn, some people should just stick with playing EverQuest, and realize that the McDonald's nightshift is as good as it gets money wise for them.
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Damn, some people should just stick with playing EverQuest, and realize that the McDonald's nightshift is as good as it gets money wise for them.

i dont play computer games, nor will i work at mcdonald's lol
i got a education. i just like working at home.
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Old 10-30-2002, 07:13 PM   #42
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ars is so fucking gay.... they cancelled me 2 years ago for sending too many signups to fast, taught me quick that they are a piece of shit organization
I had the same thing. They eventually paid after a month so I took their money and closed my account. If they have a problem with good conversions too fast, there's over 30 other companies that will gladly take it. ARS' loss, I had the best conversions with ARS but if they don't pay on time, I take my business elsewhere. And they never paid on my AVS sales, so too bad for ARS, they're one of very few companies on my blacklist.

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