The US, Mexico, And Canada need to merge into a Union.

[Malicious Biz]

The writing is one the wall folks. There is no argument that Europe and Asia is starting to leave the western hemisphere behind. If we ever expect to compete in this climate we must get our ducks in a row and merge.

http://www.unitednorthamerica.org/

"Ask not what your country can do for you - Ask what you can do for your country. Ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." - John F. Kennedy



North Americans in both Canada and the United States are free and prosperous people, proud of their national histories and achievements ? so why should we attempt to change things? One could argue the essential question should not be why, but why not? Why not try to create history by enlarging the nation and generating greater wealth, progression and unity within this diverse continent?

At the same time, there are still a number of specific reasons why we should favor this ambitious idea of a United North America. The main arguments can be split up into these five categories: Economics, Defense, Politics, History and Culture.


Economics

The economic case for unity is perhaps the easiest and most obvious argument to make, at least in terms of the sheer practical benefits it would provide to the average North American. According to the Economics Department of the Bank of Montreal, "one of the critical benefits of greater economic integration for Canadians [with the US] is the prospect of higher living standards...?. By tearing down obstacles at the Canada-US border put in place by both governments, inevitably this will result in increased trade, which in turn benefits producers and consumers, employers and employees. The main benefactors of borders, by contrast, are those who either profit from lack of competition or those who collect duties, tariffs and other expenses ? primarily the governments of Canada and the United States.

Just as decreased taxation can actually result in increased tax revenues for governments, elimination of trade restrictions would actually result in increased trade, economic stimulus, further increased government revenues and most importantly, increased prosperity for the average North American. Overall, the removing of myriads of redundant agencies and consolidating everything from budgets to currencies would eliminate waste and streamline the North American economic engine.


Defense

North American air, space and sea are already under the aegis of NORAD, a permanent agreement binding the security of Canada and the United States together domestically. Abroad, the two countries work together militarily through organizations such as NATO. Such arrangements have helped create an integrated, interoperable and cooperative North American security force within our continent and throughout the world. However, the overall defensive capability of North America is not enhanced, but rather diminished, by the fact that we continue to have two sets of military and government departments dedicated to our joint internal security. The burden of nearly doubling the administrative costs may have a debatable effect on the security of the continent.

Yet, it is clear that we are wasting personnel by spreading our border patrols across the vast 5,500 mile border that Canada and the US share. The potential loss of misusing forces is much more difficult to measure, but just as the 9/11 hijackers revealed, an act of terrorism can severely damage the integrity of the continent. Another incident could easily occur if we are not vigilant and wise in deploying our resources. Security and terrorist threats do not come to Canada from United States or vice-versa, but from overseas. Removing unnecessary land and sea patrols and rather directing them to protecting airports and harbors from outside threats would have the doubled effect of enhancing our security and strengthening the free flow of travel and trade between the regions of North America.


Politics

Democracy is only given meaning through the expressed ideas and visions of the people. A democracy of one person is no democracy at all, but a democracy of a million people is a powerful force. Undoubtedly, the United States holds the greatest political influence in the world largely because of its people power. The added voices of Canadians could only improve democracy by reinvigorating the republic with new thoughts and concepts.

From a canadian perspective, Canadians would gain a seat in the most powerful halls of government and finally have a voice in setting the course for the continent and the world. Economics and security are often discussed in relation to continental integration, and treaties turn these discussions into realities. Yet, too often the political influence of the US over Canada increases as a result of these agreements while Canadians remain helpless to similarly influence the US. The softwood lumber dispute and the mad cow crisis are perfect case examples of such a relationship.

Prosperity and security are almost meaningless if no vehicle exists to make internal changes by democratic initiative; for Canadians, this is increasingly the case. Globalization is not something that can be reversed, but the political gap can be overcome if Canadians make their voices heard by sending Canadian congressmen to Washington DC.


History and Culture

History and culture are often used as tools to segregate people, promote nationalism and encourage division. This has certainly been the case for the past 250 years of Canadian and USAmerican history. In reality, however, it is our shared history and culture that should unite the people of North America together. Unlike the nations of Europe who are divided among deep linguistic and religious lines that have formed over centuries of history, Canada and the United States are relatively new countries that share common languages, religions and people. Indeed, we are a pattern of cultures woven from a common thread.

The border that divides us today was not created out of any interminable or irresolvable issues. It was instead simply a line drawn by an imperial power that has long since left the shores of North America. While the political disputes of the 18th Century have long since disappeared, their legacy continues to live on in the form of the border. A United North America would finally heal the wound of the first civil war that divided the people of North America, and bring about a reunion of historical proportions.

Let me ask you, Are you willing to let your children be burdened with life in a sub-par nation that will forever and always be dragging behind the advancing nations of the eastern hemisphere?

MERGE NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

Learn more here about how we can protect ourselves from mediocrity:

http://www.spp.gov/

http://www.cfr.org/project/423/indep...h_america.html

http://www.american.edu/ia/cnas/pastortnac.html

http://www.newamericancentury.org/

ACT NOW BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

[PostWhore]

yeah...it's called NAFTA

lol

[PostWhore]

oh, and we don't need your fucked up antihuman constitution in Canada or in Mexico, you screwed it up, you live there ;)

[Malicious Biz]

"America has no north, no south, no east, no west. The sun rises over the hills and sets over the mountains, the compass just points up and down, and we can laugh now at the absurd notion of there being a north and a south. We are one and undivided" - Sam Watkins

We are going to have to take some drastic measures if we ever expect to protect ourselves in the future from the Islamofascists that want to attack us like they did on 9-11

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by PostWhore

yeah...it's called NAFTA

lol

NAFTA Doesn't even scratch the surface of what needs to be done
http://www.spp.gov/prosperity_agenda...sperity_agenda

Promoting Growth, Competitiveness and Quality of Life


To enhance the competitive position of North American industries in the global marketplace and to provide greater economic opportunity for all of our societies, while maintaining high standards of health and safety for our people, the United States, Mexico, and Canada will work together, and in consultation with stakeholders, to:

Improve Productivity

* Regulatory Cooperation to Generate Growth

o Lower costs for North American businesses, producers, and consumers and maximize trade in goods and services across our borders by striving to ensure compatibility of regulations and standards and eliminating redundant testing and certification requirements.

o Strengthen regulatory cooperation, including at the onset of the regulatory process, to minimize barriers.

* Sectoral Collaboration to Facilitate Business

o Explore new approaches to enhance the competitiveness of North American industries by promoting greater cooperation in sectors such as autos, steel, and other sectors identified through consultations.

o Strengthen North America's energy markets by working together, according to our respective legal frameworks, to increase reliable energy supplies for the region's needs and development, by facilitating investment in energy infrastructure, technology improvements, production and reliable delivery of energy; by enhancing cooperation to identify and utilize best practices, and to streamline and update regulations; and by promoting energy efficiency, conservation, and technologies such as clean coal, carbon capture and storage, hydrogen and renewable energy.

o Improve the safety and efficiency of North America's transportation system by expanding market access, facilitating multimodal corridors, reducing congestion, and alleviating bottlenecks at the border that inhibit growth and threaten our quality of life (e.g., expand air services agreements, increase airspace capacity, initiate an Aviation Safety Agreement process, pursue smart border information technology initiatives, ensure compatibility of regulations and standards in areas such as statistics, motor carrier and rail safety, and working with responsible jurisdictions, develop mechanisms for enhanced road infrastructure planning, including an inventory of border transportation infrastructure in major corridors and public-private financing instruments for border projects).

o Work towards the freer flow of capital and the efficient provision of financial services throughout North America (e.g., facilitate cross-border electronic access to stock exchanges without compromising investor protection, further collaboration on training programs for bank, insurance and securities regulators and supervisors, seek ways to improve convenience and cost of insurance coverage for carriers engaged in cross border commerce).

o Stimulate and accelerate cross-border technology trade by preventing unnecessary barriers from being erected (e.g., agree on mutual recognition of technical requirements for telecommunications equipment, tests and certification; adopt a framework of common principles for e-commerce).

* Investing in Our People

o Work through the Partnership for Prosperity and the Canada-Mexico Partnership to strengthen our cooperation in the development of human capital in North America, including by expanding partnerships in higher education, science, and technology.

Reduce the Costs of Trade

* Efficient Movement of Goods

o Lower the transaction costs of trade in goods by liberalizing the requirements for obtaining duty-free treatment under NAFTA, including through the reduction of "rules of origin" costs on goods traded between our countries. Each country should have in place procedures to allow speedy implementation of rules of origin modifications.

o Increase competitiveness by exploring additional supply chain options, such as by rationalizing minor differences in external tariffs, consistent with multilateral negotiation strategies.

* Efficient Movement of People

o Identify measures to facilitate further the movement of business persons within North America and discuss ways to reduce taxes and other charges residents face when returning from other North American countries.

Enhance the Quality of Life

* Joint Stewardship of our Environment

o Expand cooperative work to improve air quality, including reducing sulphur in fuels, mercury emissions, and marine emissions.

o Enhance water quality by working bilaterally, trilaterally and through existing regional bodies such as the International Boundary and Water Commission and the International Joint Commission.

o Combat the spread of invasive species in both coastal and fresh waters.

o Enhance partnerships and incentives to conserve habitat for migratory species, thereby protecting biodiversity.

o Develop complementary strategies for oceans stewardship by emphasizing an ecosystem approach, coordinating and integrating existing marine managed areas, and improving fisheries management.

* Creating a Safer and More Reliable Food Supply while Facilitating Agricultural Trade

o Pursue common approaches to enhanced food safety and accelerate the identification, management and recovery from foodborne and animal and plant disease hazards, which will also facilitate trade.

o Enhance laboratory coordination and information-sharing by conducting targeted bilateral and/or trilateral activities to establish a mechanism to exchange information on laboratory methods and to build confidence regarding each other's testing procedures and results.

o Increase cooperation in the development of regulatory policy related to the agricultural biotechnology sectors in Canada, Mexico and the United States, through the work of the North American Biotechnology Initiative (NABI).

* Protect Our People from Disease

o Enhance public health cross-border coordination in infectious diseases surveillance, prevention and control (e.g., pandemic influenza).

o Improve the health of our indigenous people through targeted bilateral and/or trilateral activities, including in health promotion, health education, disease prevention, and research.

o Building upon cooperative efforts under the International Conference on Harmonization of Technical Requirements for Registration of Pharmaceuticals for Human Use, work towards the identification and adoption of best practices relating to the registration of medicinal products.

[Malicious Biz]

To ensure a free flow of goods and man power, we will need to construct a major thoroughfare specifically for this purpose

The NASCO Corridor encompasses multimodal transportation infrastructure on or in close proximity to U.S. Interstate Highways 35, 29 and 94, and the significant connectors to those highways in Canada and Mexico. The effectiveness of cargo movements along the NASCO Corridor directly impacts North America?s continental trade flow, the largest in the world.

http://www.nascocorridor.com/

The plans are in place people! All we need to do is DEMAND that they happen.

Write your congressmen today! There's not a moment to waste!

[moeloubani]

lol

maybe the americans are pumped about merging into canada

but us canadians want nothing to do with the problems and the shit storm you guys are going through down there right now

we like our health care, we like our privacy, we like our safety and we like our government

something like this might pass in the US but would NEVER even come close in Canada

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

lol

maybe the americans are pumped about merging into canada

but us canadians want nothing to do with the problems and the shit storm you guys are going through down there right now

we like our health care, we like our privacy, we like our safety and we like our government

something like this might pass in the US but would NEVER even come close in Canada

Let me ask you something.. In twenty years.. do you want Canada looking like this:



Or More Like this:


Get on board canada.. The train is leaving the station. WOO WOOO.

[Mr Pheer]

Canmerico?

[Odin]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Let me ask you something.. In twenty years.. do you want Canada looking like this:

That actually looks like Mexico.

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by moeloubani

lol

maybe the americans are pumped about merging into canada

but us canadians want nothing to do with the problems and the shit storm you guys are going through down there right now

we like our health care, we like our privacy, we like our safety and we like our government

something like this might pass in the US but would NEVER even come close in Canada

hmm... I cant think of anyone I know who would be happy about merging with Canada.

[Spunky]

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

hmm... I cant think of anyone I know who would be happy about merging with Canada.

More walrus for us! stay away from the motherland it's too damn miserable and overcrowded as it is.

[xxxdesign-net]

sovereignty is over rated anyway... btw, still eating the special edition prozac coated M&Ms Malicious?

[Doctor Dre]

You're very retarded if you want this to happen.

[pornask]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Let me ask you something.. In twenty years.. do you want Canada looking like this:



Or More Like this:


Get on board canada.. The train is leaving the station. WOO WOOO.

More like this:



Keet your fucking antichrist for yourself. I don't want that moron for my president

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net

still eating the special edition prozac coated M&Ms Malicious?

Your beliefs are so antiquated that even your insults are behind the times.

Stand back good sir, there's progress coming through here.

[DWB]

It's called NAFTA and the currency will be the Amerio. Already slowly being put into place.

[iMind]

Revolution Anyone?

You're fucked if you think this is a solution.

[KillerK]

This is terrible! People will all move north from mexico, who wants to stay in that shitty country.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by iMind

Revolution Anyone?

You're fucked if you think this is a solution.

Yeah, I guess you're right. We should just stand still, bury our heads in the sand, and hope for the best.

Viva La Ostrich Revolution'!!!!!!1

Solid strategy, it's the conservative thing to do really.

[iMind]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Yeah, I guess you're right. We should just stand still, bury our heads in the sand, and hope for the best.

Viva La Ostrich Revolution'!!!!!!1

Solid strategy, it's the conservative thing to do really.

hey man,
if you read all that and picture that beatiful scene above, then I guess that's what you picture..
I picture something more along the lines of what pornask posted.

I can tell you, there isn't ONE canadian that would stand for this, I doubt ANY real Americans would be willing, and who cares about mexico... I bet they're ready to jump on board LOL.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by iMind

hey man,
if you read all that and picture that beatiful scene above, then I guess that's what you picture..
I picture something more along the lines of what pornask posted.

I can tell you, there isn't ONE canadian that would stand for this, I doubt ANY real Americans would be willing, and who cares about mexico... I bet they're ready to jump on board LOL.

We are rapidly becoming an economic backwater. If we don't move our societies forward, and fast, we had all better start learning Chinese. We may end up needing it.

http://www.bigthink.com/the-world/europe/8593

Move forward or we get left behind like dinosaurs.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

We are rapidly becoming an economic backwater. If we don't move our societies forward, and fast, we had all better start learning Chinese. We may end up needing it.

http://www.bigthink.com/the-world/europe/8593

Move forward or we get left behind like dinosaurs.

I actually agree with you but wouldn't we be better to do it with trade rather then try and do all the rest of it? The european union is more about borders and trade then other aspects of govt.

[The Duck]

You are not very wise, this post, your avatar and sig shows it.

[smutnut]

Nobody wants anything to do with America until the wrong government gets in power or some natural disaster strikes. Then it's nothing but hands out and gimme, gimme, gimme like it's America's responsibility to clean all the dog shit off the globe but reap none of the rewards!

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by slapass

I actually agree with you but wouldn't we be better to do it with trade rather then try and do all the rest of it?

All the rest of what? I'm suggesting exactly this:

Originally Posted by slapass

The european union is more about borders and trade then other aspects of govt.

That we emulate Europe's success and merge into a more cohesive and open community of nations. Because what they are doing seems to be working, and it appears that it won't be long before they are completely dominating us economically.

Also, if and when Asia were to form a union we would be fucked. Do you think they would wait for us to play catch up or steam roll right over us?

Conservative Americans and Canadians are going to have to decide what's more important to hang on to... Their Xenophobia or their prosperity. The clock is ticking.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by kandah

You are not very wise, this post, your avatar and sig shows it.

Stand aside Paleo-Conservative.. Your BS fear mongering and antiquated belief systems were entertaining at first.. now they are becoming a dangerous hindrance on our progress and prosperity.

[The Sultan Of Smut]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

We are going to have to take some drastic measures if we ever expect to protect ourselves in the future from the Islamofascists that want to attack us like they did on 9-11

Islamofascists? LOL that's like a made up word no? Ooops nope I found a definition of it and as I thought it was invented to more efficiently focus your hatred.

I think I'll pass on this union since a hell of a lot more people die from heart disease than terrorism yet a fraction is done to prevent that.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

Islamofascists? LOL that's like a made up word no? Ooops nope I found a definition of it and as I thought it was invented to more efficiently focus your hatred.

I think I'll pass on this union since a hell of a lot more people die from heart disease than terrorism yet a fraction is done to prevent that.

Yup, It's clear to me that you standing aside is for the best. Thanks

[Agent 488]

sounds good to me.

[jwerd]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Yup, It's clear to me that you standing aside is for the best. Thanks

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by PostWhore

yeah...it's called NAFTA

lol

That's exactly what I thought when I saw the title of this thread.....

[Barefootsies]

[brassmonkey]

never going to happen

[jwerd]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

It's called NAFTA and the currency will be the Amerio. Already slowly being put into place.

It's funny how the majority of us outside the US seem to get it... I mean, there are some within the States, but most of the time it takes a look from outside in

[Adult Insider Dave]

Sounds like a good time to buy beach property in Mexico.

[tammix]

language is a big barrier for Mexicans, I guess special projects and programs would work better instead of a union but sounds interesting amigo!

[TyroneGoldberg]

amero

...

[onwebcam]

Why do we have to form a Union to be prosperous? Why can't everyone get along and have free trade? All of these countries going bankrupt are due to the bankers. It's not just America that's being affected. The way things are setup now, the current globalization, doesn't appear to be working. We have food that we throw away to control prices and there are people in other countries hijacking oil tankers so they can eat. Why cant we come up with a system where everyone can eat. What the people you are promoting here want is to make or break economies as THEY wish.

[tony286]

Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut

Islamofascists? LOL that's like a made up word no? Ooops nope I found a definition of it and as I thought it was invented to more efficiently focus your hatred.

I think I'll pass on this union since a hell of a lot more people die from heart disease than terrorism yet a fraction is done to prevent that.

its a pundit word.

[TyroneGoldberg]

Russian analyst predicts decline and breakup of U.S.

interesting read

[Dcat]

Fuck the New World Order.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by tony404

its a pundit word.

It's "Bullshit" word that descibes a VERY REAL problem. If you don't think that there are thousands of muslim extremists out there hellbent on the destruction of our western way of life then, you sir, are completely insane.

This merger must go through. For the security of our great nations.

[pornguy]

Originally Posted by Chief

That actually looks like Mexico.

Yeah sadly thats what ALLL of mexico looks like.

NOT.

There are homes here that are far nicer than most of what you will find in the US and Canada and for more affordable.

[Khulan]

It cannot be possible. USA, Canada and Mexico - Three completely different countries, cultures

[onwebcam]

Riots in Iceland, Riots in Thailand, Iraqi government protesting, UK suggesting a 61% tax on the people, People robbing farm lands in the UK for food. Pirates hijacking ships to get money for food. US citizens getting irritated with banker bailouts. China going into recession along with, the US, UK, Japan. Police getting beheaded in Mexico. The fuckwits running our world right now aren't doing a good job. And they are the ones who made this grand plan.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by Khulan

It cannot be possible. USA, Canada and Mexico - Three completely different countries, cultures

As are the nations of the European union. They have managed to merge successfully and have phenomenal economic growth.

Originally Posted by onwebcam

Riots in Iceland, Riots in Thailand, Iraqi government protesting, UK suggesting a 61% tax on the people, People robbing farm lands in the UK for food. Pirates hijacking ships to get money for food. US citizens getting irritated with banker bailouts. China going into recession along with, the US, UK, Japan. Police getting beheaded in Mexico. The fuckwits running our world right now aren't doing a good job. And they are the ones who made this grand plan.

Fear monger

While you're busy spreading fear and ignorance, our nations are crumbling. Together we stand; Divided we fall.

Merge Now.

[onwebcam]

I'm not trying to fear monger. These people have been playing us against each other for the benefit of money. It's proven. It's fact. Nobody wants war except these folks. If you took a survey from every country in the world you would find they all want the same thing. Peace. Now why is it that we keep fighting each other? It's because these fucks want to control the world. They are selling you on this "globalization" so you will accept them doing it. The same thing can be accomplished as it is now if they weren't interfering. We all seem to make business work online without their interference... Give them time and they'll come in and fuck that up too.

[2012]

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by onwebcam

I'm not trying to fear monger. These people have been playing us against each other for the benefit of money. It's proven. It's fact. Nobody wants war except these folks. If you took a survey from every country in the world you would find they all want the same thing. Peace. Now why is it that we keep fighting each other? It's because these fucks want to control the world. They are selling you on this "globalization" so you will accept them doing it. The same thing can be accomplished as it is now if they weren't interfering. We all seem to make business work online without their interference... Give them time and they'll come in and fuck that up too.

You're clearly a wacko Are "They" out to get you man?

You better run and hide. "They" might get you! OOOGITY BOOGITY HERE "THEY" COME