Raymor works with the FBI.

[Chris Malais]

"the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, 18 U.S.C. 1030:

Whoever?
(6) knowingly and with intent to defraud traffics (as defined in section 1029) in any password or similar information through which a computer may be accessed without authorization
...
In other words, you'll get up to 10 years each time you sell a list.

URL forwarded to Assistant Special Agent In Charge Robert D. Foley,
Louisville Kentucky Field Office, FBI."

I was contacted by a federal agent after Raymor posted these words to me. My computer was confiscated and my privacy was completely invaded. Several hours later my belongings were returned to me and Federal agent Jamie Riley apologized to me and my family. He said that his source was pretty reliable in helping him convict people who are making illegal internet transactions, and his source pointed him to my digital and physical locations.

I think that Raymor is trying to hand people over to the feds so that he can get out of his own personal problems with the FBI. People continue to drink the police.

Cheese eating bitch.

[Chris Malais]

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=877221

Here is the link to the original thread.

[fris]

raymor and flannigan?

[Chris Malais]

This is Raymor's homepage http://www.bettercgi.com/

[Sly]

He reported you yesterday and they came already today, full inspection within a few hours and then left?

That has to be some sort of record for any government agency.

[Chris Malais]

The commonwealth of Kentucky does not give a fuck. I know it's on a federal level but there is defiantly something funny about Kentucky. I think he reported me before he posted though.

[fris]

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...1&postcount=11

[Super Negro]

good for ray, you are a shady fucker selling data like that

i wish more people would be proactive on reporting shady fucks like you

[Super Negro]

and btw, raymor doesn't work with the FBI to get himself out of trouble, he has mentioned several times on GFY that he works with one branch of the government doing something that, in the long run, actually helps him make throttlebox and strongboxxx better

[Super Negro]

here ya go, took me like 20 minutes to find it, but I consider this impressive and not something to be scared about unless you are a shady fuck

Originally Posted by raymor

We're working on some new technology right now to help you guys out some more.
Now that Ali is rockin on the installs and some of the support I have more time for
development. Today I just talked to someone who did log in security for the FBI because
it seems they already worked with the exact same biometrics that we're using in the new
version of Strongbox to identify a _person_ instead of a computer. I was excited to
hear that the direction we were taking after our initial testing is exactly the direction
the FBI security people found was best after years of research.

I was planning to launch the intelligent bandwidth limiter perhaps Monday, but I just realized that along
with the advanced "intelligent" features some webmasters may prefer simple old fashioned
rules like "no more than X GB per day", so we're re-doing the complicated math to also
allow for simpler rules to be applied at the same time. Time to head back down to
the math department at Texas A&M tommorrow for more calculus help ...
Strongbox 4.0 shouldn't be too far behind once we get your comments on the
bandwidth limiter and get it tuned for your needs. Along with the biometrics in SB4 we'll be
applying the lessons learned from the intelligent bandwidth limiter to put the same
kind of complex mathematics to work keeping the password traders and crackers
away.

[Chris Malais]

I see that Ray has a boyfriend.


Really though??!! Trying to put someone away for 10 years over something that isn't even illegal? Have you ever been to jail? Have you ever been questioned by the feds? What would you think if someone was trying to hack 10 years of your life away?


What ray did was POLICE SHIT, and if you do POLICE SHIT, then I don't fuck with you. Some of you mother fuckers drink the police, and I wont have any part of smelling your breath. If you wanted to be a cop you should have joined the police academy instead of selling porn.

[Super Negro]

Originally Posted by Chris Malais

I see that Ray has a boyfriend.


Really though??!! Trying to put someone away for 10 years over something that isn't even illegal? Have you ever been to jail? Have you ever been questioned by the feds? What would you think if someone was trying to hack 10 years of your life away?


What ray did was POLICE SHIT, and if you do POLICE SHIT, then I don't fuck with you. Some of you mother fuckers drink the police, and I wont have any part of smelling your breath. If you wanted to be a cop you should have joined the police academy instead of selling porn.

I fucking hate the police with a passion, but they do come in handy when shady idiots like you come along and try and sell shit that probably never owned in the first place

people like you give the internet porn industry a bad name

I wouldn't be surprised if you also sold member data lists

[Super Negro]

oh wow, i remember you now, you are this idiot

[TidalWave]

He was just released because he had nothing illegal, so wtf are you talking about exactly Super Negro?

[Chris Malais]

Originally Posted by Super Negro

I fucking hate the police with a passion, but they do come in handy when shady idiots like you come along and try and sell shit that probably never owned in the first place

people like you give the internet porn industry a bad name

I wouldn't be surprised if you also sold member data lists

Your ignorance of my circumstances and situations is baffling. No, I don't sell member data list nor have I ever inquired about them.

Notice how you said probably never owned in the first place? How are you going to make the sort of assumptions that you've made when you are thinking in terms of probability. Fuck off.

[Chris Malais]

Originally Posted by Super Negro

oh wow, i remember you now, you are this idiot

I was an idiot for getting ripped off by a prominent member of this website. Damn, you even do research like a cop.

Someone needs to drag you into the wilderness and rape you with a rock you sad excuse for a porky pig suck off.

[Chris Malais]

"There is no such thing as loyalty, only motivation."


Those are the words coming from the type of trash that is motivated to get out of trouble; so through acts of disloyalty they drink the police.

[Super Negro]

Originally Posted by Chris Malais

"There is no such thing as loyalty, only motivation."


Those are the words coming from the type of trash that is motivated to get out of trouble; so through acts of disloyalty they drink the police.

hahahah, jesus, who sold you that jargon and where can I watch them teach it to you



this place is hilarious these days, the iq level drops a point ever day

[Chris Malais]

Originally Posted by Super Negro

hahahah, jesus, who sold you that jargon and where can I watch them teach it to you



this place is hilarious these days, the iq level drops a point ever day

I can defiantly see your English deficiencies through your novice typing skills. It's a trend amongst childish GFY members that are trying to trash someone out for apparently no reason at all. Maybe that can help you understand the IQ drop that you're babbling about.

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by Chris Malais

I see that Ray has a boyfriend.


Really though??!! Trying to put someone away for 10 years over something that isn't even illegal? Have you ever been to jail? Have you ever been questioned by the feds? What would you think if someone was trying to hack 10 years of your life away?


What ray did was POLICE SHIT, and if you do POLICE SHIT, then I don't fuck with you. Some of you mother fuckers drink the police, and I wont have any part of smelling your breath. If you wanted to be a cop you should have joined the police academy instead of selling porn.

1. What legit need is there for having or selling a user/pass list? You have still failed to reveal this...

2. Police Shit? What are you you? 20 years old? I think all anti law enforcement morons ought to be dropped into some 3rd world country were there IS NO LAW and see just how you like it and how long you would survive. You COULD NOT survive without the law and its officers... That is a fact.

[Chris Malais]

Originally Posted by Darkland

1. What legit need is there for having or selling a user/pass list? You have still failed to reveal this...

2. Police Shit? What are you you? 20 years old? I think all anti law enforcement morons ought to be dropped into some 3rd world country were there IS NO LAW and see just how you like it and how long you would survive. You COULD NOT survive without the law and its officers... That is a fact.

The legitimacy is that if you have UN:PW list that belong to nobody, and were stolen by nobody; then by no moral standard is there any wrong doing through buying or possessing these articles.

Police shit is acting like the police when you have no police training. Let the police do their jobs and for those of you who want to be police, then join the fucking academy.

What you also propose to be a fact is actually an opinion you fucking moron. Not that I am an extremist anti law enforcement moron or anything. I just don't like it when people give my name to Federal officers, I don't know, maybe that type of shit gets you off.

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by Chris Malais

The legitimacy is that if you have UN:PW list that belong to nobody, and were stolen by nobody; then by no moral standard is there any wrong doing through buying or possessing these articles.

Um, correct me if I am wrong but if they belong to no one... who generated them?

Originally Posted by Chris Malais

Police shit is acting like the police when you have no police training. Let the police do their jobs and for those of you who want to be police, then join the fucking academy.

This is FAR from what it sounded like you were saying or implying, I can understand your view now... And no need to be an asshole because you can't properly express yourself.

[Chris Malais]

The names don't belong to anybody except for the one owner. This pretty much means that no ones privacy is being invaded, that was my main point. Anyone that was looking at this thread with an open mind would have figured that one out for themselves.

[Sly]

I don't really understand what you use the list for. Is it like to fill up say members database? Like if I had a social networking site and I wanted a bunch of fake members... is that what I would use this list for?

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by Sly

I don't really understand what you use the list for. Is it like to fill up say members database? Like if I had a social networking site and I wanted a bunch of fake members... is that what I would use this list for?

That was what I was really asking about as well as others... I am not passing judgement and color me stupid but I can't figure out a legit use for one which is why I asked.

[Chris Malais]

Originally Posted by Sly

I don't really understand what you use the list for. Is it like to fill up say members database? Like if I had a social networking site and I wanted a bunch of fake members... is that what I would use this list for?

That's pretty creative, it sounds workable. I had something else in mind though.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Darkland

That was what I was really asking about as well as others... I am not passing judgement and color me stupid but I can't figure out a legit use for one which is why I asked.

Well I can't figure out what a illegitimate use would be either. :-) It's like having a key but no lock to open it with...

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by Sly

Well I can't figure out what a illegitimate use would be either. :-) It's like having a key but no lock to open it with...

I could think of alot of illegitmate uses for them... Access to bank accounts or the like... Access to membership sites... Access to Ebay Accounts and the like... and so on.

Possible, no?

Unless it is just a straight user/pass list with no sites indicated for which then it seems useless.

[Chris Malais]

Originally Posted by Darkland

I could think of alot of illegitmate uses for them... Access to bank accounts or the like... Access to membership sites... Access to Ebay Accounts and the like... and so on.

Possible, no?

Unless it is just a straight user/pass list with no sites indicated for which then it seems useless.

You just have criminal thinking. Quit being so cynical.

[Chris Malais]

Originally Posted by Sly

Well I can't figure out what a illegitimate use would be either. :-) It's like having a key but no lock to open it with...

That's a good metaphor.

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by Chris Malais

You just have criminal thinking. Quit being so cynical.

On the contrary... I used to be one of those LEO's you are complaining about. Yes, Yes. Academy, Badge, a .45 and the whole nine yards.

[Va2k]

Well um.. if you're legit then there is no reason to be worried! *shrugs*

[Chris Malais]

Originally Posted by Darkland

On the contrary... I used to be one of those LEO's you are complaining about. Yes, Yes. Academy, Badge, a .45 and the whole nine yards.

Most cops that I have come into contact with were in fact criminals. The kidnap people and put them in cages, fuck that should get you 10 years in my opinion. One thing that I never could understand about the police, is how can a man enforce rules that he doesn't agree with? How can someone agree with thousands of laws, and enforce them without having the same belief of his/her lawmakers?

It takes a coward to enforce a law that isn't personally agreed with.

[Chris Malais]

Originally Posted by Fungus

Well um.. if you're legit then there is no reason to be worried! *shrugs*

I'm not worried. Offended is more like it.

[TisMe]

Seems to me that Ray did you a favor.

Unlike before now people know that whatever you're selling isn't illegal.

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by Chris Malais

Most cops that I have come into contact with were in fact criminals. The kidnap people and put them in cages, fuck that should get you 10 years in my opinion. One thing that I never could understand about the police, is how can a man enforce rules that he doesn't agree with? How can someone agree with thousands of laws, and enforce them without having the same belief of his/her lawmakers?

It takes a coward to enforce a law that isn't personally agreed with.

I see, cops are criminal because the arrest people... ummmm, WOW.

As for the rest of it... you sorta derailed along the way there. I am sure all those cops are doing their job BECAUSE they don't believe in the laws they are enforcing.

You weren't dropped on your head as a baby were you because your thinking surely isn't sound.

[BlueDude]

If Raymor report you to the FBI that's a really good thing. I would have done the same.

[Chris Malais]

Originally Posted by Darkland

I see, cops are criminal because the arrest people... ummmm, WOW.

As for the rest of it... you sorta derailed along the way there. I am sure all those cops are doing their job BECAUSE they don't believe in the laws they are enforcing.

You weren't dropped on your head as a baby were you because your thinking surely isn't sound.

Arrest is just another word for kidnap and imprison. Sometimes people deserve to be kidnapped and imprisoned, sometimes they don't.

I am %100 positive that cops are not in a full agreement with the laws that they enforce. It makes them cowards. Don't get life twisted. Policemen are human just like any of us, and they speed, run stop signs, do drugs, etc. They are also hypocrites for enforcing laws that they disobey themselves.

Look at you, an ex-pig, on a smut dealing sight. I bet you used to arrest people that had rolling papers. While it's illegal for me to sell drugs, you're dealing with porn gurus. Isn't is a felony if you get caught with rolling papers twice? Bite it you scum.

[Chris Malais]

Originally Posted by BlueDude

If Raymor report you to the FBI that's a really good thing. I would have done the same.

...and your typing dialect reads like an Asian woman that sells ass on the side of Korean ghettos.

I bet the FBI gives you really ass pleasure for doing a really good thing, asshole.

[BlueDude]

Originally Posted by Chris Malais

...and your typing dialect reads like an Asian woman that sells ass on the side of Korean ghettos.

I bet the FBI gives you really ass pleasure for doing a really good thing, asshole.

Wow, I'm going to do a lot more good things 'cause i love to get my ass pleasured. Thanks for the tip.

[Chris Malais]

Damn son, you must love the cock.

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by Chris Malais

Arrest is just another word for kidnap and imprison. Sometimes people deserve to be kidnapped and imprisoned, sometimes they don't.

I am %100 positive that cops are not in a full agreement with the laws that they enforce. It makes them cowards. Don't get life twisted. Policemen are human just like any of us, and they speed, run stop signs, do drugs, etc. They are also hypocrites for enforcing laws that they disobey themselves.

Look at you, an ex-pig, on a smut dealing sight. I bet you used to arrest people that had rolling papers. While it's illegal for me to sell drugs, you're dealing with porn gurus. Isn't is a felony if you get caught with rolling papers twice? Bite it you scum.

You are truly clueless and deserve every shitty thing life throws at you... This is the only statement I needed to show your moral character or the lack of.

If you have no higher regard for this board or this industry than to refer to it as "smut dealing" get the fuck out and good riddance. If you ARE in the industry you wont be long, it is people like you that we could do without. We have enough battles with the public without our own turning on us.

And your comparison of this adult industry and illegal criminal behaviour... well, retarded comes to mind.

Oh and on a side note... your original post is full of shit. Even if someone did turn you in, they wouldn't show up hours after the tip unless it was something REALLY big like being on their top 10 list or you aleady being under surviellance and probably not even then. If it was weeks or months later, after they got rock solid evidence then it might have been believable.

[Sly]

Damn, you seem like a very angry person.

[Chris Malais]

Originally Posted by Darkland

You are truly clueless and deserve every shitty thing life throws at you... This is the only statement I needed to show your moral character or the lack of.

If you have no higher regard for this board or this industry than to refer to it as "smut dealing" get the fuck out and good riddance. If you ARE in the industry you wont be long, it is people like you that we could do without. We have enough battles with the public without our own turning on us.

And your comparison of this adult industry and illegal criminal behaviour... well, retarded comes to mind.

It's easy to twist words around. Fuck doing business with a pig. Smoking weed, selling porn, it's all good to me, even though I don't do drugs.

[BusterBunny]

if they came to your house they are still watching you and forwarded this to your local police...they are reading this and you will be pulled over before your key hits the ignition hole on a daily basis...

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by Chris Malais

It's easy to twist words around. Fuck doing business with a pig. Smoking weed, selling porn, it's all good to me, even though I don't do drugs.

Man you are fucking dumb... I never said I was a "pig" Did you not check the at the end of my whole nine yards comment? I was making fun of you and drew you out for the cop hating moron you are... And apparently the porn hating moron that you are, seeing how you see us as nothing but "smut peddlers"

I wouldn't do business with someone like you even if it meant going out of business.

Someone really failed you in life...

I would also hazard a guess that this most certainly isn't your first run in with the law either.

[Chris Malais]

Originally Posted by Darkland

I wouldn't do business with someone like you even if it meant going out of business.

Fucking retard

[Darkland]

Originally Posted by Chris Malais

Fucking retard

It's called integrity...

Have a Merry Christmas

[TisMe]

Known Ray for almost 10 years, this is the first I've heard of him having any problems with any law enforcement.

You claim they show up, seize and return your equipment all in 24 hours from Ray's post that he was forwarding a url to them???

I smell bullshit!

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Sly

I don't really understand what you use the list for. Is it like to fill up say members database? Like if I had a social networking site and I wanted a bunch of fake members... is that what I would use this list for?

Knowing their history I would guess chatroom user/pass for spamming them.