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![]() Here is a free tip. I had remembered it from a discussion I was having at Internext....
If you are looking to TRULY get into the adult business, or niche market, and be successful. Here is what you need to do. 1. Stop trying to be all things to all people. Go look at clips4sale, or try and break down general porn into a micro niche. Instead of lesbians, do cheerleader lesbians. Instead of trying to be all things foot fetish. Pick one thing. 1. Cast Fetish only. 2. High Heels only. 3. Soles only. 4. Flip Flops only. 5. Boots only. 6. Balloons. 7. Trampling only. 8. Pedal Pumping only. Some of those you could do with just a single girl, and a camera if so inclined and understand the fetish. You are not going to be high volume, but you are going to be very nichey, and have a lot of re-billing mofo's. Add in the option for members to send in custom scripts, and requests, and you can make even more money. Start buy shooting enough to do at least one clips4sale update a week until you have enough content to launch a paysite. Do not pay girls by the scene. Recruit accordingly. |
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excellent advice
![]() foot fetish is something ive never understood, but i know there is about 10 niches inside the foot fetish niche. Same goes with everything else too and I think people are afraid to go to niche because they fear there will be no traffic or sites to trade traffic with.
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I agree, it is indeed the best specially in this economy
![]() "Do not pay girls by the scene. Recruit accordingly." What is your suggestion regarding payout for the girls? by session? by the hour? and with recruit accordingly you mean as needs arise, or girls fitting the niche? ![]() Thanks!
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Yeah, I agree with everything but I DONT get the
"Do not pay girls by the scene. Recruit accordingly." Whats that about? |
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likely pay her by the hour... get many, many scenes in a day
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lol, I get that :P not asking for all the details just grammar impediment on my part
![]() either way great post... =)
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Plus, I can't say I fully understand all those listed. I get requests for many of them, and turn them down. Simply because I do not understand them, and it's a waste of my time and money. But start thinking on a smaller scale... micro niche within a niche,.... and you will not have big sales. But you will remain in business. You will have a solid, loyal, base of customers, and over time you will be the queen of that market. ![]() |
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The key is to have 4 girl friends and take care of them.
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That said, go put on your boots and cape and fly around adult shooting all the content. ![]() |
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I suppose your niche is different to my niche, in so far as you can shoot feet pretty much without a break, but with mine I need to wait at least half hour or more between shoots...
Ive maximized the downtime though shooting 'Hidden Camera' voyeur content while the girls prepare to go again... |
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I'm trying LOL...
I actually have a buyer (exclusive) for my voyeur stuff... Infact, it sometimes pays for the shoot Im doing both before and after the voyeur stuff ! I could talk micro niche all night TBH... I think its the most exciting and unexplored parts of the still profitable side of the Internet... Micro Niche FTW!LOL |
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One of the things I took from Internext, and honestly believe in, is that this industry just has to get used to being smaller. The millionaire gold rush is over. You will have to be happy making your $250-500k a year (or whatever it is). The point is not the dollar amount. The bottom line comes down to you have to specialize, and stop thinking adult is a winning lotto ticket. If you have knock back a few hundred thousand, attend shows, and stay in business. That will be what success is regarding the adult biz. The days of knocking porn dead with some naked girls, a website, and traffic are done. The heavier insulated, the better. |
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Your right. Its a BUISNESS... Not a get rich quick scheme...
I was on another forum today... Theres a guy saying he has £30,000 to invest in content to launch a site... So far hes been shooting content and spent over 3K... He apparently has a couple of B/G vids (Him and the girl... Not a pro stud) and a couple of vanilia solo masturbation vids.... Plus he's spent over £1000.00 on a site design.. (But he hasn't even got a server or a URL yet...) yup... Go figure ![]() Anyway, the vultures are circling on him and his remaining £26,000.00... But thats to be expected ! Im due to launch my micro niche fetish site on Feb first... Its NOT a members site... But a pay per download.... (Initially, with billing by verotel and password-by-phone) I launch with 11 Diff girls, (All well known pornstars) all UNKNOWN within the fetish, and approx 18 / 20 half hour videos (Plus 'free' downloadable zips of pics... When buying a video) I have approx ten videos in reserve to use for bi weekly updates and will be shooting 4 / 5 vids of two new girls in the next 2 weeks ! My point is though that I could have shot double that with less that half the money that guys spending... And whos gonna make the most back? Him, with his vanilla (Same as everyone else and available all over the tube stuff) or me with 100% extreme micro niche fetish? I guess you probably know the answer ![]() |
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WHOOPS! Did I just type that? ? ? I meant... I like poo... ![]() |
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I started 6 years ago, $3000.00, and had to buy gear also. I can only imagine what madness $30,000 and vultures he is going t hrough. |
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Id link you to the post if it wouldnt get me banned... But I will copy paste the orig post here: 1st Post Quote:
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Fuck, for $30,000 I could shoot like 10 years of content. LMFAO!! |
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So did you tell that chappie good luck with the vultures?
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pfffffffffft THERE IS NO MONEY IN FEET I REPEAT NO MONEY IN FEET, GO BACK TO NORMAL PORN NO MONEY NO FUCKING MONEY IN FEET!!!!! :P
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No...
![]() Knowing the forum, theres not much point... Its NOT a webmaster forum where anyone has any GENUINE knowledge or experience... Its a fan forum of wannabees, running WP blogs n stuff (With Default themes) that all *think* they know best... With ZERO real life knowledge themselves ! If I jumped in and offered to help, or even just recommended a REAL forum... (Which I could do, as its not 'un-allowed') it would just make me look like another vulture ! |
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BF, how come we never bumped into each other?
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Not sure hoss.
You're a busy guy? |
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Ahh too bad, would have liked to shoot the shit with ya. Next time.
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Was kinda just chillin the first part of Internext, then started getting pulled for meetings. I missed meeting with some people. ![]() |
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Tip #2...
If you don't love and understand the niche, there is a good chance you won't do well at it. Jumping on a niche because everyone else is or because you *think* there is money in it, is not always a good idea. True fanatics can spot the posers and your sales will suffer accordingly. |
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if newbies don't grasp this concept from day one, they're fucked.
i looked into niches very deeply before even buy a domain. first thing you should do is find something you like and niche it down to a smaller niche even micro niche if needed. Examples: you like big tits, so big tits will be your niche, but what to do with them big tits? have them oiled, cummed on, fake, real, pierced, tan lines. public sex(a niche in itself) but where? busses, cinema, streets, cabs, etc Find what you like and find one thing in that niche to use. This is the KEY chose to just do big tits and your site will be recieving a truck load of fail for not getting specific visitors |
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I just used the niche I know. But I am sure tits, blondes, assholes, etc all have smaller pieces. Even sex. Narrow it down to only doggie, or whatever. |
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Forgot a couple...
9. MILF Foot Sucking only. 10. Fatso/Plumper Foot Sucking only. |
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