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Old 01-23-2009, 04:15 PM   #1
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Obamas First War. Time for Impeachment already

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

So much for change. Obama
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Oh, come on. He never hid that.
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If I were racist I would want the brown Pakistanis dead
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It is good to see that he takes US security a little more seriously than most of his deranged peacenik supporters do.
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You guys are really taking this new President Obama thing hard huh? I'm sorry. Want a hug?
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If I were racist I would want the brown Pakistanis dead
goood goood , let it flow. feel it coursing through your veins , do not fight it young jedi
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this has been happening for some time..
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this has been happening for some time..
so no change......
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This time I believe the new man. He sounds truly sincere. Let's hope it stays like that and he wont get affected with "offers" and "friends". The current global situation tells me that honesty is the ONLY way towards a common solution.

What greed & fear caused, only hope & trust could re-establish.
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Mmphhh.. the world change really bugs me.. I'm hoping for the best Especially, for us.
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"The precision strike leveled a compound, which was owned by local tribal elder Khalil Malik, killing at least 10 suspected militants"

Well, maybe the other nine who were killed shouldn't have been hanging around militants in a war zone?

Or mayb the militants in their compound, in a war zone. Shouldn't have had their non-militant people around them?

things that make you go hmmmm.
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"The precision strike leveled a compound, which was owned by local tribal elder Khalil Malik, killing at least 10 suspected militants"

Well, maybe the other nine who were killed shouldn't have been hanging around militants in a war zone?

Or mayb the militants in their compound, in a war zone. Shouldn't have had their non-militant people around them?

things that make you go hmmmm.
Or maybe the US should not bomb sovereign nations

things that make you go hmmmmmmmm nazi germany.
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so no change......
there is still and illegal prison with an order to close down? i think this will take time
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Guess you didn't watch too many of his speeches since he said all along he wanted to continue in Pakistan.
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Guess you didn't watch too many of his speeches since he said all along he wanted to continue in Pakistan.
Oh no I knew he did. I knew he was a war candidate when running. I just did not think he would begin illegally bombing nations so soon.
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It's not like Islamic Militants have any regard for where they kill people...

Why should they be treated any different?

A government that protest the eradication of confirmed terrorist elements is certainly a government that supports Islamic Terror.

And yes Obama was intrinsicly interested in cleaning up afghanistan. Taking out Confirmed Terrorist elements that hid on the border are fair game. Pakistan aint doing shit about it, so thats just how it is.

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It's not like Islamic Militants have any regard for where they kill people...

Why should they be treated any different?
We should treat sovereign nations as such and declare war if we want to bomb them.

Some countries say the same thing about the US. So should China bomb Cali?
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We should treat sovereign nations as such and declare war if we want to bomb them.

Some countries say the same thing about the US. So should China bomb Cali?
Well, technically America did Declare war.
It's a War ON terror or did you miss that headline?

Pakistan and other nations feel that intruded upon they can take up siding with terrorists elements or let America do the job for them. Because if we know the targets are somewhere, we tell the government that houses where they are and that government does not do shit what do you want to call it?

THese people that were missiled had it comming they earned it and deserved it.

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Well, technically America did Declare war.
It's a War ON terror or did you miss that headline?
Technically we did not.
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Uhmmm. Yeah it is a declaration.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Terrorism and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declara..._United_States

1.Defeat terrorists and destroy their organizations.
2.Identify, locate and destroy terrorists along with their organizations.
3.Deny sponsorship, support and sanctuary to terrorists.
1.End the state sponsorship of terrorism.
2.Establish and maintain an international standard of accountability with regard to combating terrorism.
3.Strengthen and sustain the international effort to fight terrorism.
4.Working with willing and able states.
5.Enabling weak states.
6.Persuading reluctant states.
7.Compelling unwilling states.
8.Interdict and disrupt material support for terrorists.
9.Eliminate terrorist sanctuaries and havens.
4.Diminishing the underlying conditions that terrorists seek to exploit.
1.Partner with the international community to strengthen weak states and prevent (re)emergence of terrorism.
2.Win the war of ideals.
5.Defend U.S. citizens and interests at home and abroad.
1.Implement the Nation Strategy for Homeland Security.
2.Attain domain awareness.
3.Enhance measures to ensure the integrity, reliability, and availability of critical physical and information-based infrastructures at home and abroad.
4.Integrate measures to protect U.S. citizens abroad.
5.Ensure an integrated incident management capability.

It is a formal policy of the USA.

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It's not like Islamic Militants have any regard for where they kill people...

Why should they be treated any different?

A government that protest the eradication of confirmed terrorist elements is certainly a government that supports Islamic Terror.

And yes Obama was intrinsicly interested in cleaning up afghanistan. Taking out Confirmed Terrorist elements that hid on the border are fair game. Pakistan aint doing shit about it, so thats just how it is.
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We should treat sovereign nations as such and declare war if we want to bomb them.

Some countries say the same thing about the US. So should China bomb Cali?
I have a thing with the word "confirmed" since I met people actually working for governments doing "news issues" on the internet for payments to influence public opinions.
Power/thruth is measured thru news/internet/tv these days. It is?... YES
I like China, I like Cali, I have muslim friends, Boedism countries I go to for holiday, but I don't know any radical/suicidal/postal idiots in any country of any religion. War is bad and every soul counts (except a few maybe....). So fuck countries and religions; either people are good or they are bad IMHO.
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I just view it as a more surgical appraoch to eliminate Islamic extremism.

Afghanistan can be a society that thorws acid on the faces of girls trying to get an education or Afghanistan can be a nation where all are treated equal.

Afghanistan can be a nation that sells Opium to fund terrorists that target friendly countries of the USA and the USA itself or it can be a nation that grows to be nation that keeps its streets clean and well fed.

I have never had a problem with my country killing indescrimantly Terrorist elements, no matter the method. Just my opinion

Just because these pussy terrorists hide on the other side of some border that supports them makes no difference to me. A marked man is a marked man and when they need to be killed it certainly is better now than later.

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I just view it as a more surgical appraoch to eliminate Islamic extremism.

Afghanistan can be a society that thorws acid on the faces of girls trying to get an education or Afghanistan can be a nation where all are treated equal.

Afghanistan can be a nation that sells Opium to fund terrorists that target friendly countries of the USA and the USA itself or it can be a nation that grows to be nation that keeps its streets clean and well fed.

I have never had a problem with my country killing indescrimantly Terrorist elements, no matter the method. Just my opinion

Just because these pussy terrorists hide on the other side of some border that supports them makes no difference to me. A marked man is a marked man and when they need to be killed it certainly is better now than later.
Women get beat and raped here every second.
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We should treat sovereign nations as such and declare war if we want to bomb them.

Some countries say the same thing about the US. So should China bomb Cali?
My guess is it would be a lot easier to "declare war" (in your view) against terrorists if they were a sovereign nation, instead of cowards who not only hide among citizens of the sovereign nations which harbor them --- but also use innocent civilians as shields and then holler "foul" when their shields are hit.
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Women get beat and raped here every second.
SO whats your point? At least Women have the option to goto school without some shit faced Islamic fag throwing acid on them along the way.

I am sure the girls in Afghanistan would rather be raped than have acid thrown on them for trying to get an education.

I am gonna go with you supporting Islamic Extremists at this point there is no changing your views on the matter.

Your level of thinking is not adept to debate this and its boring.

Have fun giving voice to those that wish to kill you and those that believe god has told them to kill others for no reason.

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SO whats your point? At least Women have the option to goto school without some shit faced Islamic fag throwing acid on them along the way.

I am sure the girls in Afghanistan would rather be raped than have acid thrown on them for trying to get an education.

You level of thinking is not adept to debate this and its boring.
Yeah women living in the ghetto of Chicago have no worries when walking the streets Ignorance is bliss I guess. "Us good Them bad"
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I doubt this stike had anything whatsoever to do with Obama. Matter of factly, I believe the planning for it occured prior to the inaugaration and any decision made was done so by those whom know what they're doing, which certainly isn't Obama. All Obama does as far as military goes is say yay or nay and that's it.

While I am not an Obama supporter and normally view several of his actions with contempt, this one however I approve of and I'd have no problem with more such actions taking place.

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My guess is it would be a lot easier to "declare war" (in your view) against terrorists if they were a sovereign nation, instead of cowards who not only hide among citizens of the sovereign nations which harbor them --- but also use innocent civilians as shields and then holler "foul" when their shields are hit.
Let those sovereign nations take care of their criminals. Or we can work with them to get those criminals. Or should we just start carpet bombing the south side of Chicago to get rid of the drug dealers. And shame on them for hiding among civilians and shame on the civilians for being near drug dealers. Those drug dealers have a higher probability of killing Americans than does someone hiding in a shack in Pakistan
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Yeah women living in the ghetto of Chicago have no worries when walking the streets Ignorance is bliss I guess. "Us good Them bad"
Awright go on...

Goto a bar or some school yard. Tell a little girl you intend to rape them or throw acid on thier face. They have a choice of what can happen to them. I wanna know what they say.

GO soldier boy... March.

Because thats what these Islamic Extremists are doing these days.
THey believe no girl has a right to an education, drive a car or vote or have any voice while being traded as cattle amoung families.

If you got love for that I advise you move to another country...

Maybe Afghanistan would be good for you.

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Not surprising. The Mumbai Massacre didn't draw India into invading Pakistan so this the alternative.
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what i don't understand is where were all you people when the torture, secret prisons, and whatever else came out of the last 8 years.

on cruise missile falls and it's 'impeachment'.

people get fucking ass raped in prison and it's 'someone elses fault'
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Obama never said Bin Laden and/or his people would get a pass.

Wherever they're spotted is - and should be - a free fire zone.
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Let those sovereign nations take care of their criminals. Or we can work with them to get those criminals. Or should we just start carpet bombing the south side of Chicago to get rid of the drug dealers. And shame on them for hiding among civilians and shame on the civilians for being near drug dealers. Those drug dealers have a higher probability of killing Americans than does someone hiding in a shack in Pakistan
And there is your flaw in this debate. The countries are notified. The country themselves tells the terrorists they can expect some missiles through the window.

Fact is the government of Pakistan is not clean...
They got terrorist supporters in the infrastructure.


Intel says hey we got these guys here names comfirmed and Paki's do nothing about and warn them...


Fuck that...

Send in a rocket...
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Awright go on...

Goto a bar or some school yard. Tell a little girl you intend to rape them or throw acid on thier face. They have a choice of what can happen to them. I wanna know what they say.

GO soldier boy... March.

Because thats what these Islamic Extremists are doing these days.
THey believe no girl has a right to an education, drive a car or vote or have any voice while being traded as cattle amoung families.

If you got love for that I advise you move to another country...

Maybe Afghanistan would be good for you.
So in your line of thinking. It would have been ok for the US to get bombed because we did not allow women and blacks to vote?
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And there is your flaw in this debate. The countries are notified. The country themselves tells the terrorists they can expect some missiles through the window.

Fact is the government of Pakistan is not clean...
They got terrorist supporters in the infrastructure.


Intel says hey we got these guys here names comfirmed and Paki's do nothing about and warn them...


Fuck that...

Send in a rocket...
Then fucking declare war! Thats all Im saying. I never claimed Pakistan was innocent.
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Then fucking declare war! Thats all Im saying. I never claimed Pakistan was innocent.
Congress can't declare war because they're not attacking a sovereign nation, they're attacking a terrorist facility.

Nobody is launching a war against Pakistan, they're attacking terrorists operating at the Afghan border.

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Old 01-23-2009, 05:37 PM   #40
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So in your line of thinking. It would have been ok for the US to get bombed because we did not allow women and blacks to vote?
that was in the 60s etc right?

i thought bombs were going off..
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Then fucking declare war! Thats all Im saying. I never claimed Pakistan was innocent.
You need meds, dude. Lots of them.

Your posts are spurious. You are pretty much the worst of the "I post inane US shit so I can post" type of person. Granted, you're not alone and you should feel good about that. There's a myriad of dipshits in your same line of posting work.

You'all should start a support group, take that online, and make some bank off other nut jobs. Samuel Adams would be proud.
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Congress can't declare war because they're not attacking a sovereign nation, they're attacking a terrorist facility.

Nobody is launching a war against Pakistan, they're attacking terrorists operating at the Afghan border.
This statement has to be a joke.
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Let those sovereign nations take care of their criminals.
Clearly Pakistan isn't or we wouldn't be doing it.

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Or we can work with them to get those criminals.
Clearly Pakistan isn't being cooperative or we wouldn't be doing it.

Do you honestly think the U.S. would just go "fuck you" and start bombing areas of Pakistan to get terrorists without first trying to work WITH them and have THEM try to clean up their own shit? Do you honestly think we LIKE to spread thin by doing that stuff while carrying on war in Iraq and sustained activity in Afghanistan? Of course we'd rather them find and catch or kill the terrorists, but they just aren't doing it, or we wouldn't have bombed them a few dozen times.

It's one thing if terrorists was a Pakistan problem that affected only them. If you knew someone hated the fuck out of you, wanted to hurt you, your family and friends, destroy your home etc. and police wouldn't do anything, would you just say "oh that's too bad, I guess I'll just take what's coming to me?"
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the sore loser strikes again. lol
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This statement has to be a joke.
But it's true.
The war on Terror is a "Policy" an American Policy and I happen to support.

The more geniuos about the matter is that America keeps a list ( Database ), has names, locations and identities that are to be targeted updated every single day and monitored.

It is an amazing feat and if countries have a problem with supporting confirmed terrorists thats just not right. America has names of the guys, proof of what they did provides information to governments ahead of time. Who there fucking children are everything about them...

Pretty impressive if you ask me.

Bush was correct in stating America is against a different kind of enemy. That much is true.
The definitions of this policy drafted up are what I would say is fair to all governments involved including Pakistan, Isreal, Iraq, Palestine.

Its incredible that Isreal, UISA, and most European countries are not only provided this information but it is all cordinated to the exact time a rocket can fly within a few inches of a chosen target and kill it, using satelites, Communications, right down to a guy controlling a Zanana to pop elements that have no interest in peace or the rights of others as dictated by the UN itself.

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the sore loser strikes again. lol
You know if this was Bush you would be bashing him. But you have your Obama blinders on. And for the 1000th time I did not want McCain to win.
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Clearly Pakistan isn't or we wouldn't be doing it.



Clearly Pakistan isn't being cooperative or we wouldn't be doing it.

Do you honestly think the U.S. would just go "fuck you" and start bombing areas of Pakistan to get terrorists without first trying to work WITH them and have THEM try to clean up their own shit? Do you honestly think we LIKE to spread thin by doing that stuff while carrying on war in Iraq and sustained activity in Afghanistan? Of course we'd rather them find and catch or kill the terrorists, but they just aren't doing it, or we wouldn't have bombed them a few dozen times.

It's one thing if terrorists was a Pakistan problem that affected only them. If you knew someone hated the fuck out of you, wanted to hurt you, your family and friends, destroy your home etc. and police wouldn't do anything, would you just say "oh that's too bad, I guess I'll just take what's coming to me?"
How soon we forget. Iraq... When are people going to get it. We created the real Islamic "terrorists" to do a job for us. Most current "terrorists" are really just oridinary people protecting their families against people who want to come over and kill their families. See how it all works? Bombs aren't the answer to the problem. Obama hasn't been in office long enough to "talk." So he obviously isn't trying to talk. And the reason being is because Obama doesn't really run the show.
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You know if this was Bush you would be bashing him. But you have your Obama blinders on. And for the 1000th time I did not want McCain to win.
So who the fuck did you vote for?
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So who the fuck did you vote for?
I ended up voting for Obama.
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You know if this was Bush you would be bashing him. But you have your Obama blinders on. And for the 1000th time I did not want McCain to win.
I hated Bush on his 2nd term. On the first term I supported him all the way and even voted for him and to this day somethings that Bush did I fully supported unfortunatly most of the things I support is his policies regarding the extermination of Terrorists.

Everything else he kinda failed in regarding the Economy, Outsourcing and fair trade and tax policies while doing very little gathering international support in pursuit of the bad guys. IN otherwords as far as American Foreign Policy is concerned we did horribly in explanations.

Bush failed in selling the concepts and reasons.

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