Processed food and how it really fucked us all up.

[After Shock Media]

Before you get all happy, this is not a pro organic must eat a chicken who was allowed to dance about in the dirt eating seeds and worms before being butchered thread. Nope this is an issue about how processed foods really fucked up the youth. Thinking back not that long ago and looking through history and assorted older cookbooks - along with the supermarket shelves and onslaught of commercials for anti-bacterial toilet paper. We did not always used to be afraid of some germs and bacteria.

People had no issue letting raw meat sit in pure fat in the pantry as a form of storage. Home canning did not require a sterile laboratory and was entirely doable in houses with dirt floors and fireplaces for both heat and the stove. Using a wooden cutting board for your poultry, your beef, wild game, pork, and then products you were to eat raw was perfectly normal. If there was some chicken crap on some egg shells, you wiped it off and did not freak out doing some icky dance around the kitchen before calling your lawyers to sue somebody. Food did not need to be cooked into oblivion to eat it, I mean if some chicken had a spot of red inside you would not rush to the bathroom to try and force yourself to puke. It was not killing people left and right and people were not getting sick more often.

Then along came a period in time when everything was available in sterile cans, foods came to you stuck in a deep freeze that even future archaeologists would be proud of. Foods that should be able to sit on a shelf or in your pantry for a lifetime. This makes me think they did a fantastic job of scaring the living shit out of our parents. Soon everything had to be cooked until it all looked the same. If you did not spray every surface in your home with some anti-bacterial spray, soap, or something else you obviously were a bad parent and were placing your kids at risk. Forget the fact that many such bacteria are good for you and it also could make the bad ones even that much more bad.

Now it seems we have an outbreak of not only people getting off the wall diseases and such, it appears everyone is somehow allergic to something or other. Think back a bit and ask yourself, when you were younger (assuming your at least in your 30's), how often did you run into or hear of a kid with an allergy to something other than the occasional bee sting or cat? Today it seems like most of the younger population of America is allergic to at least a handful of foods and kids get sent places with notes on what not to feed them.

I can not be positive they are both linked but it seems like one hell of a coincidence to me. I do not doubt that the allergies are real in some instances, though I do still think many people do make up some of them because they just do not like certain things or it sounds good. I also am pretty sure that peoples fear of everything being super clean and using crazy cleansing agents everywhere they go is directly associated with it all starting with processed foods. They have found a way to influence entire generations to become paranoid, and very possibly the health of people.


Yes I am fully aware this has nothing to do with the adult business. File it in the fucking around area. I wanted to rant and could do little else while I was uploading a file, which is now only a little over 34% done.

[Ethersync]

Have you seen the movie King Corn?

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

Have you seen the movie King Corn?

Ya I have, great movie and better than super size me.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Ya I have, great movie and better than super size me.

Yeah, I agree. It's a must see actually.

[Sly]

The only thing I'm "allergic" to is lactose... and that isn't really an allergy and half the world has the same problem! Most people just deal with the symptoms as they can be fairly mild, unfortunately I am not in a position to do so. Thank God for lactose-free milk and ice cream!

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Sly

The only thing I'm "allergic" to is lactose... and that isn't really an allergy and half the world has the same problem! Most people just deal with the symptoms as they can be fairly mild, unfortunately I am not in a position to do so. Thank God for lactose-free milk and ice cream!

Yeah, that's an intolerance that way more than half of the world has to some degree I do believe...

[Spunky]

Fuck it,only raw vegatables for me from now on

[brassmonkey]

hahaha whatever

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by Spunky

Fuck it,only raw vegatables for me from now on

Watch "King Corn" or better still buy it. Seriously...

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by Sly

The only thing I'm "allergic" to is lactose... and that isn't really an allergy and half the world has the same problem! Most people just deal with the symptoms as they can be fairly mild, unfortunately I am not in a position to do so. Thank God for lactose-free milk and ice cream!

As you said though that is not an allergy. People have had lactose problems forever it seems. Johhny across the street who is somehow allergic to peanuts, pork, yellow onions and white (but not purple, green), and soy sauce. He was allergic to potatoes for awhile too but apparently grew out of it or something as he can eat french fries and tator tots.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

More people are alive.

Even in the 50's some strength was required for the young to mature and in the older days only the strongest offspring survived.
With todays medicine any bi-product breed of a degenerate human can live a decent and even healthy life.

However...
I do agree food has alot to do with it all.

However people still have a choice to buy vegies and healthy meats while maintaining a healthy diet to live a healthier life. While some do not and the ones that do not suffer in the long run.

Many Americans are malnurished and just do not know it.

Either way we all gonna die sooner or later.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

More people are alive.

Even in the 50's some strength was required for the young to mature and in the older days only the strongest offspring survived.
With todays medicine any bi-product breed of a degenerate human can live a decent and even healthy life.

That is due to medical advancement, better drugs and treatments. The two do not relate when boiled down aside from the issue that today we have super viruses and bacteria immune to most agents and directly attributed to the over use of antibiotics and anti-bacterial cleaners (again which people also use very wrong, like who actually washes their hands correctly anyways).

[Sly]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

As you said though that is not an allergy. People have had lactose problems forever it seems. Johhny across the street who is somehow allergic to peanuts, pork, yellow onions and white (but not purple, green), and soy sauce. He was allergic to potatoes for awhile too but apparently grew out of it or something as he can eat french fries and tator tots.

Maybe when you were younger those kids were dying young? Who knows... it's hard to say what makes what happen. Frankly I think we just hear about things more now due to technology and people moving more so we think it's happening more. Every now and then there is some big shark attack scare... then it turns out, the sharks aren't attacking anymore that summer than any other summer.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

That is due to medical advancement, better drugs and treatments. The two do not relate when boiled down aside from the issue that today we have super viruses and bacteria immune to most agents and directly attributed to the over use of antibiotics and anti-bacterial cleaners (again which people also use very wrong, like who actually washes their hands correctly anyways).

Yup that to.

But you are discussing this with the wrong guy.
I am a believer in mass extinction. Mankind needs a set back and a good portion of people need to be removed from this planet. So my money is on Super Virus or something to kill off a good part of the population. Stronger Disease and more Plagues are definatly required.

Its the best way and most humane thing I can think of that would be a natural event.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Yup that to.

But you are discussing this with the wrong guy.
I am a believer in mass extinction. Mankind needs a set back and a good portion of people need to be removed from this planet. So my money is on Super Virus or something to kill off a good part of the population. Stronger Disease and more Plagues are definatly required.

Its the best way.

It's the best way? Speak for yourself...

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by Sly

Maybe when you were younger those kids were dying young? Who knows... it's hard to say what makes what happen. Frankly I think we just hear about things more now due to technology and people moving more so we think it's happening more. Every now and then there is some big shark attack scare... then it turns out, the sharks aren't attacking anymore that summer than any other summer.

Pretty sure I would of heard about other kids dieing
Think it is a bit more than over reactionary news stories such as shark attacks. Would be one thing to hear about a few kids in say Kansas having issues and getting sick from canola oil. Is something else when it is everywhere and you know more than a handful of people with such problems of some sort. Plus you really do not hear as much about it outside of the US.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Ethersync

It's the best way? Speak for yourself...

Well let me put it this way...
Mankind as a whole deserves worse.

People are shitty, greedy and fucked in the head and most are already dead yet still take up my air and my space and tax my very exhistance. Only a handful of good strong quality human beings need survive. Maybe next time around they would get it right, because right now the current version of human being is totally flawed on all levels.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Well let me put it this way...
Mankind as a whole deserves worse.

People are shitty, greedy and fucked in the head and most are already dead yet still take up my air and my space and tax my very exhistance. Only a handful of good strong quality human beings need survive. Maybe next time around they would get it right, because right now the current version of human being is totally flawed on all levels.

Ah I see.... and here I thought you were just depressed and hated your life...

[nekrom]

I do laugh at how many people buy those stupid kitchen bench anti-bactera spray bottles and hand wash disinfectant liquids to kill teh germs!

When I was growing up there was this think called hot water + soap that you whipped your kitchen down with. My mum used to defrost raw meat sitting on the kitchen bench all day, never got sick once from that.

-N

[buzzy]

Originally Posted by AlienQ

Well let me put it this way...
Mankind as a whole deserves worse.

People are shitty, greedy and fucked in the head and most are already dead yet still take up my air and my space and tax my very exhistance. Only a handful of good strong quality human beings need survive. Maybe next time around they would get it right, because right now the current version of human being is totally flawed on all levels.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by nekrom

I do laugh at how many people buy those stupid kitchen bench anti-bactera spray bottles and hand wash disinfectant liquids to kill teh germs!

When I was growing up there was this think called hot water + soap that you whipped your kitchen down with. My mum used to defrost raw meat sitting on the kitchen bench all day, never got sick once from that.

-N

You likely had a much stronger immune system than kids today because of this too (seriously)

[DWB]

What we are eating, drinking and smoking is killing us. No question about it.

[FelixFlow]

your post has nothing to do with the thread title

[jmcb420]

I agree with what you are saying, aftershock.... We have pretty much made it (through processed foods, antibiotics, etc) so that we can no longer take alot of things the way nature ment for them to be taken.

I am a super strong believer that antibiotics especially do way more harm then good, and for very good reason. I never take them. I dont care how sick I get, fuck those things. Your immune system can do the job just fine.

I get sick..... like REALLY SICK, once every 2 or 3 years. It never lasts more then a week, and like I said I dont take shit for simple colds or even flu, i just ride it out.

My exwife gets downright ill at least 2 times a year. bed ridden and hell bound. and its because of the fact that she takes a pill everytime she think she needs one, instead of letting her immune system do the job. So she basicly gets sick if someone is within 30 feet and sneezes because her immune system hasnt been allowed to battle shit off on its own.

Exact same thing with processed foods. To clean, not enough germs, not good for your system. I'll take my meat thawed on the table all day. Thats the way its ment to be or rather, the way nature intended.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by FelixFlow

your post has nothing to do with the thread title

Yes it does. I think our parents were influenced by canned and processed foods and thus got super germ phobic. I also think that such processing and possibly lack of bacteria has lead to more food issues.

[riddler]

the whole peanut butter thing hasnt stopped me from eating the products that were recalled, if i get sick thats what a fucking doctor is for.

[riddler]

same goes with "undercooked" food, if it just happens to make me sick ill either go threw it like people did through history or goto the doctor..

if i have to cook something so much it alters the taste then id rather not eat it, bleeding steak for me thanks.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by riddler

the whole peanut butter thing hasnt stopped me from eating the products that were recalled, if i get sick thats what a fucking doctor is for.

Eh? Was not talking about the poop in the peanut butter. That is a contamination issue, combined with a joke called the FDA.

[dial]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Ya I have, great movie and better than super size me.

considering the experiment done in super size me was a HUGE waste of time, anything is better than it

ANYONE that eats that food for 30 days will be sick, it doesn't matter if your mom created it or mcdonalds

[riddler]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Eh? Was not talking about the poop in the peanut butter. That is a contamination issue, combined with a joke called the FDA.

yeah my mind trailed off

[Spunky]

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

What we are eating, drinking and smoking is killing us. No question about it.

I want to die with a beer in one and a skunk dobe in the other by the time I'm 70

[tranza]

I prefer natural food, but have some precessed anyway...

[germ]

I couldnt agree more. Ive never taken antibiotics. When I get sick, I up my fluid intake and tough it out. I was raised by my grandmother. She always kept things clean, but never went overboard with it, or tried to disinfect the entire house and protect us from bacteria.

Today, I have one of the best immune systems of anyone I know. I get sick MAYBE once every year. When I do, it lasts for 3-4 days and it doesnt really affect me that bad. Im still able to be up and do the things I need to do. On the flip side of that, all the people I know that rush out and flood their body with antibiotics and vitamin c every time they get a sniffle are the same ones that get really sick every couple of months or so. I dont think thats just a coincidence.


PS: Whats with everyone hating on me in this thread? Geez.

[Reak AGV]

I prefer natural food over processed anyday

[BradM]

Disclaimer: I didn't read what you wrote... so sorry for that.

I just wanted to point out that since stopping eating pre-packaged foods and processed foods and beef, in 30 days I have lost 15lbs by changing NOTHING else in my life. Nothing. Not a drop of anything else. I don't walk more, I don't do any more exercise than before... nothing.

Processed food is bad for humans, and bad for the environment.

[Imortyl Pussycat]

one of the biggest problems in the US, with all the processed food availability, is childhood obesity. the processed food has led to the most unhealthy, overweight children this country has ever seen. those kids are going to have more health issues down the road for life. very sad

[pornguy]

Now if you think back to the dirt floor days, Life expectancy was what. 40. 50 if they were lucky?

[Walter Gropius]

Humans' intolerance to lactose stems from the fact we were only intended to consume it from our mothers' breast milk, i.e. as a baby - we weren't built to consume lactose throughout our lives. But, humans being humans, we cheated and started stealing cows' milk.

[seeric]

since i've gone to my healthy diet i feel better, process information better, and overall am a lot more healthy.

[Antonio]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I do not doubt that the allergies are real in some instances, though I do still think many people do make up some of them because they just do not like certain things or it sounds good...

I'd say 90% of the people that say that they are alergic are not, I worked in coffee shops for years while studying and every second guy/woman was "alergic" to this or that, I don't know what's wrong with people - do they think that being alergic is cool?

What you say is also true but I think the lives that we live now are far better than the lives my grandparrents lived - true, 90% of the food they ate they produced themselves and they lived well into their 90s, but I wouldn't swap the comfort of my life for a few extra years.

[dial]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Now if you think back to the dirt floor days, Life expectancy was what. 40. 50 if they were lucky?

EXCELLENT point

people need to stop and think about how long people lived when there wasn't anything processed and compare it to now

shit, most of US could be living til we are 115 by the time we get up there...right now you can look around and see 105 year olds on tv acting like they are 80...name one period in time where that was happening as much as it is now

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Now if you think back to the dirt floor days, Life expectancy was what. 40. 50 if they were lucky?

Again most of that is attributed to better medicines, technology, diagnosis, and education - not to current versus previous sanitary conditions.

Originally Posted by Antonio

I'd say 90% of the people that say that they are alergic are not, I worked in coffee shops for years while studying and every second guy/woman was "alergic" to this or that, I don't know what's wrong with people - do they think that being alergic is cool?

What you say is also true but I think the lives that we live now are far better than the lives my grandparrents lived - true, 90% of the food they ate they produced themselves and they lived well into their 90s, but I wouldn't swap the comfort of my life for a few extra years.

Not in no way saying that we do not have more comfort in today's times. Our lives are indeed better in many ways. I am actually pro advancement and technology. I just wrote this after thinking about it all and how we became afraid of our own shadows and the idea that everything around you is trying to kill you if you do not sanitize it.

I am positive many people just make up allergies. Before anyone jumps my ass though, yes I know they are people with real allergies and they are very serious. Just saying odds are you not allergic to potatoes if french fries are ok but a baked potato is not. Nor are you allergic to ketchup but not cocktail sauce. Another example is someone who is ok with eggs, olive oil, lemons, salt and pepper - yet claims an allergy to mayo.

[kmanrox]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Now if you think back to the dirt floor days, Life expectancy was what. 40. 50 if they were lucky?

it could be said that was due to lack of quality medical care too

[dial]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Again most of that is attributed to better medicines, technology, diagnosis, and education - not to current versus previous sanitary conditions.

I have not been to the doctor in over 20 years for any ailments, nor have I taken ANY medications, and I am in perfect health...yet, I eat all processed and "junk" foods

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by dial

I have not been to the doctor in over 20 years for any ailments, nor have I taken ANY medications, and I am in perfect health...yet, I eat all processed and "junk" foods

Great for you.
I was not saying processed foods = bad health. I to eat junk food and processed foods. I am not saying that they are super evil or something one needs to avoid at all costs. My pantry is loaded with canned foods. I was saying that I feel that early on when processed foods became a mainstay it sort of changed the way people thought and that in turn caused more and more people to become paranoid about germs and bacteria. That also some germs and bacteria are indeed good for you and if everyone is busy killing every single one around them there were bound to be some consequences.

Honestly my only real issue with many processed foods as of late just has been the addition of so many sweeteners such as HFCS.

[BradM]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Great for you.
I was not saying processed foods = bad health. I to eat junk food and processed foods. I am not saying that they are super evil or something one needs to avoid at all costs. My pantry is loaded with canned foods. I was saying that I feel that early on when processed foods became a mainstay it sort of changed the way people thought and that in turn caused more and more people to become paranoid about germs and bacteria. That also some germs and bacteria are indeed good for you and if everyone is busy killing every single one around them there were bound to be some consequences.

Honestly my only real issue with many processed foods as of late just has been the addition of so many sweeteners such as HFCS.

HFCS is good in moderation. Commercials tell me that so i know it's true.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by BradM

HFCS is good in moderation. Commercials tell me that so i know it's true.

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by BradM

Disclaimer: I didn't read what you wrote... so sorry for that.

I just wanted to point out that since stopping eating pre-packaged foods and processed foods and beef, in 30 days I have lost 15lbs by changing NOTHING else in my life. Nothing. Not a drop of anything else. I don't walk more, I don't do any more exercise than before... nothing.

Processed food is bad for humans, and bad for the environment.

Very interesting. What are some of the specific pre-packaged and processed foods you have cut out of your diet?

[Ethersync]

Originally Posted by A1R3K

since i've gone to my healthy diet i feel better, process information better, and overall am a lot more healthy.

What's a typical meal for you now?

I am trying to improve my diet and would love meal suggestions.

[tony286]

i got to see that king corn it looks good