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Old 02-13-2009, 10:24 AM   #1
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TheButcher: scammer or not: Discuss

Let's have some thoughts on this. I know some people have dealed with him and had problems. Well, out with it, let's have a discussion.
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:27 AM   #2
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:30 AM   #3
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He is still around?
Yes he is. He has a certain webmaster forum, as well. I won't post the link here, but probably some of you know.
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:43 AM   #4
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:44 AM   #5
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I've heard too much bad stuff about him. I refused to do a xfer for him and was cussed out. =]
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We stopped doing business with him fast. One word: Shady
Anyone who uses "bro" 3 times in 12 words has something weird going on. Hardly any money exchanged hands (under 2k) so it was a small price to pay.

I should add, I wasn't technically "scammed" I just received piss poor results from what he promised for campaigns and what not. So it wasn't a scam, just a poor investment on our part.
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Is this the guy who runs that other adult webmaster forum you are referring to?

He is the only one I know using that 'handle' or monikor.
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:08 AM   #8
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Is this the guy who runs that other adult webmaster forum you are referring to?

He is the only one I know using that 'handle' or monikor.
Yep, the same. Claims to be British.
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:29 AM   #11
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Old 02-13-2009, 12:52 PM   #14
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Old 02-13-2009, 01:19 PM   #15
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He always played it fair with us so far.
Got nothing to complain about him.
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I've talked to him a few times here and there. I can't say anything bad about him. Before his board, I really did not know anything about him or his handle.

Sounds like some people know him a bit more in business dealings?
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He loves to hire people to moderate his board for salary and then later he doesnt pay.
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Is that the guy who runs a board that GG&J called out for having thousands of fake usernames and artificially inflating posts and visitor stats?
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About 6-8 months ago he came to me one day trying to sell me advertising space for my program.

He claimed his board was one of the "top 3 forums in the adult industry"; I had never heard of his board so I asked a few big names and they hadn't heard of the board, either.

I checked out the threads and it seemed like most of the posts were made by just a few people... looked fishy.

I didn't buy space.
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Old 02-13-2009, 02:33 PM   #21
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i helped him jumpstart that forum hes always been straight up with me and paid me
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He claimed his board was one of the "top 3 forums in the adult industry"; I had never heard of his board so I asked a few big names and they hadn't heard of the board, either.

I checked out the threads and it seemed like most of the posts were made by just a few people... looked fishy.

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The business I've done with him in the past hasn't been bad. I bought some space on his board for advertising for dirt cheap, saw very little results. I've also done some epass transfers to him and I've always been paid back when he promised with a little extra tacked on.
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Well, from my experience. He has always been a straight up guy in my conversations with him. I have never done business with him, so I can't speak to that. I did not know he was famous until this thread.
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Is that the guy who runs a board that GG&J called out for having thousands of fake usernames and artificially inflating posts and visitor stats?
Yep there are several huge threads about him on GG&J
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LOL

This guy is the biggest scammer on the net, he and his fake forum is just set up to rip people off.

Anyone who doesnt know this is a fucking retard

type in his fake forum name and scammer or his name and scammer into google and find 100's of threads on real webmaster forums about him. gg&j even use to phone the scammer up.

Apart from being a theif. He also runs a fake forum, with all his fake names, uk roy, ausie mac,la sammy, portorican pauline, (the guy loves putting a place name to make it sound real)....blah blah that he uses to scam some stupid advertisers that he has real posters.

He is not English like he claims, he is an Arab who lives in Canada.

If you cant be arsed to look at all the 1000's of threads of every webmaster forum about him, then do a search on this one.

Butcher=scammer

sc = his fake forum with his fake nics chating to his other fake nics to rip of advertisers who are stupid and done no research
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He has helped me out many times in the past, and been a shoulder to lean on when I needed to talk. Good guy in my opinion.
Wow, then you must be fucking stupid
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He is still around?
well the few cents he makes from scamming advertisers who dont know about his fake forum keeps him going
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We stopped doing business with him fast. One word: Shady
Anyone who uses "bro" 3 times in 12 words has something weird going on. Hardly any money exchanged hands (under 2k) so it was a small price to pay.

I should add, I wasn't technically "scammed" I just received piss poor results from what he promised for campaigns and what not. So it wasn't a scam, just a poor investment on our part.
Did you not know his forum is a scam?Its all fake nics that he uses and then evengets them to sign up to his advertisers sites.

It wasnt a bad result you had. You was scammed
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I trust him 100%
Peoplelike you deserve to be scammed

Retard


Trusting someone 100% who is a well known scammer with 100's and 100's of threads about him on all the main forums.

A fool and his money are easily departed
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Is that the guy who runs a board that GG&J called out for having thousands of fake usernames and artificially inflating posts and visitor stats?
yes, uses it to scam advertisers
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Not a scammer in my experience. We have done some regular business for 1-2 years and never had a problem. Always been very open and honest with me. Seems like a decent guy to me.
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About 6-8 months ago he came to me one day trying to sell me advertising space for my program.

He claimed his board was one of the "top 3 forums in the adult industry"; I had never heard of his board so I asked a few big names and they hadn't heard of the board, either.

I checked out the threads and it seemed like most of the posts were made by just a few people... looked fishy.

I didn't buy space.
Notice how none of the main posters have no sigs? notice how you never see his main posters on any other forums? Notice how they all have fucking stupid names like UK Roy, Aussie Mac, LA Sammy........

Bloke is a scammer, cant believe he is still managing to get away with it.

Check GG&J about this scammer and his fake forum
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Helped him jumpstart it to what?

The biggest fake scam forum on the net who everyone laughs about?


LOL good job
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Not a scammer in my experience. We have done some regular business for 1-2 years and never had a problem. Always been very open and honest with me. Seems like a decent guy to me.
Shows a lot about you and your program

Dealing with a known scammer and then defending him when there are 1000's of people been scammed by him and 100's of posts on every real forum you post on.

Either you are happy to support a known scammer or are to stupid to do any research

Doesn't say alot about you or your program does it
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Shows a lot about you and your program

Dealing with a known scammer and then defending him when there are 1000's of people been scammed by him and 100's of posts on every real forum you post on.

Either you are happy to support a known scammer or are to stupid to do any research

Doesn't say alot about you or your program does it

It is not my program.

What I posted was my personal experience. Don't like it? Tough.
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My problem with him is that he is many months late on paying me.
Kiss the money good bye, or sometimes he pays people if they shout loud enough for long enough. But usually he just posts some shit denying the claims on his fake forum, backed up by his fake nics and then deletes any other posts anyone else makes.

A lesson learnt,do some research before you deal with people like this shit head.

Search on google and find 100's of threads about him and his fake forum
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It is not my program.

What I posted was my personal experience. Don't like it? Tough.
I do like.

Now I know you are happy to back up a KNOWN scammer and thats always good to know.

Good to know ragecash or whoever it is you are a the sandwich boy for, are happy to employ people who support known scammers
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That stuff and the phone call on gg&j was pure comedy genius and remember it like it was yesterday.
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Scammer ... 100% shadey as all hell.
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Scammer. Was outed by Greenguy & Jim in 2005. They even called him up which was hilarious. If people still after all that, want to do business with him, they're idiots.

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Scammer. Was outed by Greenguy & Jim in 2005. They even called him up which was hilarious. If people still after all that, want to do business with him, they're idiots.

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