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Old 01-12-2009, 06:59 AM   #1
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Do DMCA email work of sites like pornbb or its a waste of time.

Just wondering. Is it worth time writing to them or they are behind bulet proof glass and just ignore them. I see DMCA link but by looking at all of those rips Im starting to doubt they give a damn.
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:01 AM   #2
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Howmuch i see they mostly have rapidshare links so maybe it will be better to concetrate there.
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If you email the host you should get a response
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email pornbb they care about DMCA they will put you on banned sites list ...
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:10 AM   #5
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The site may not care, but their host, and their host's host likely do. Send them all the way up the hosting provider line and look for any other service providers and send to them also.
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:16 AM   #6
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"They've requested/we've decided we not allow their content, due to any reason."

contact pornbb admins ... contacting host will do nothing at thousand times in the past ... or you think nobody tried to bring pornbb down before?
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pornbb rules the universe and doesn't care about your problems sadly enough... neither does their host
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Please send one a let us know how it goes. I love the tubes with a link to email contact for illegal videos that bounce. Fuckin sweet.
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Speaking about their host,it is know as host which ignores dmca so sending there wont help anything.
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Don't you love the adbrite ads at the top of pornbb?
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Don't you love the adbrite ads at the top of pornbb?
There is huge number of sites with ilegall content(not just tube sites)which makes revenue by doing nothing else then selling traffic to brokers like adbrite and adultadworld.
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email pornbb they care about DMCA they will put you on banned sites list ...
seriously? their admins pirate content and post it. If they gave a shit about dmca they wouldn't steal fucking content to begin with
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pornbb is a great place to have your staff get videos for your tubes..
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Just wondering. Is it worth time writing to them or they are behind bulet proof glass and just ignore them. I see DMCA link but by looking at all of those rips Im starting to doubt they give a damn.
They work until surfers upload your content again two days later.
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I wonder how Hosts handle DMCA issues. Do they force you to exhaust your options with the website itself or can you jump ahead of the line and hit up the host directly?
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I wonder how Hosts handle DMCA issues. Do they force you to exhaust your options with the website itself or can you jump ahead of the line and hit up the host directly?
Here's the thing, sites like pornbb just post Rapidshare, Megaupload, Depositfiles, etc. links to the videos, and even the screen caps are hotlinked from image hosts like Image Venue, Picture Bang, etc., so they aren't hosting any stolen content on their servers. There was a time that you would get hosts to shut them off for this, but now even mainstream hosts like Host Gator don't give a shit because they are not hosting the content on their servers. So sending a DMCA to one of these sites is worthless. Pornbb claims to have a list of sites that you can't post links to, but those sites' links are still all over their site, and they do little to nothing to stop it.

You have a lot more recourse with a tube site, but when it comes to a Rapidshare forum or blog most of them will laugh at your requests, as will the hosts. The good news is most file sharing sites and image hosts will pull the content, even if you aren't the copyright holder. Just send them a generic e-mail with the link to the content on their server and they will pull it, period, no questions asked. They are way too understaffed to investigate every claim, so they just pull them all...

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There is huge number of sites with ilegall content(not just tube sites)which makes revenue by doing nothing else then selling traffic to brokers like adbrite and adultadworld.
What? AFF is not available?
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Here's the thing, sites like pornbb just post Rapidshare, Megaupload, Depositfiles, etc. links to the videos, and even the screen caps are hotlinked from image hosts like Image Venue, Picture Bang, etc., so they aren't hosting any stolen content on their servers. There was a time that you would get hosts to shut them off for this, but now even mainstream hosts like Host Gator don't give a shit because they are not hosting the content on their servers. So sending a DMCA to one of these sites is worthless. Pornbb claims to have a list of sites that you can't post links to, but those sites' links are still all over their site, and they do little to nothing to stop it.

You have a lot more recourse with a tube site, but when it comes to a Rapidshare forum or blog most of them will laugh at your requests, as will the hosts. The good news is most file sharing sites and image hosts will pull the content, even if you aren't the copyright holder. Just send them a generic e-mail with the link to the content on their server and they will pull it, period, no questions asked. They are way too understaffed to investigate every claim, so they just pull them all...
Thank you for the thorough response, Profits. Much appreciated. I see opportunity in this passage:

"The good news is most file sharing sites and image hosts will pull the content, even if you aren't the copyright holder. Just send them a generic e-mail with the link to the content on their server and they will pull it, period, no questions asked. They are way too understaffed to investigate every claim, so they just pull them all..."

I wonder if there's a way to semi-automate this process? Theres a service called removemycontent or something like that. I wonder if they use semi-automated systems or just cover "the usual suspects" of forums, tubes, and link dump sites.

Someone posted earlier that it's still pretty much an open legal question if LINKING to infringing materials is a form of infringment. I guess no content producer or industry group wants to bother with the time or the resource to "make new law" by bringing this question to court through a test case?
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Thank you for the thorough response, Profits. Much appreciated. I see opportunity in this passage:

"The good news is most file sharing sites and image hosts will pull the content, even if you aren't the copyright holder. Just send them a generic e-mail with the link to the content on their server and they will pull it, period, no questions asked. They are way too understaffed to investigate every claim, so they just pull them all..."

I wonder if there's a way to semi-automate this process? Theres a service called removemycontent or something like that. I wonder if they use semi-automated systems or just cover "the usual suspects" of forums, tubes, and link dump sites.

Someone posted earlier that it's still pretty much an open legal question if LINKING to infringing materials is a form of infringment. I guess no content producer or industry group wants to bother with the time or the resource to "make new law" by bringing this question to court through a test case?
In my opinion the only content producers that you could bank on bringing it to court are some of the gay content providers, like Titan Media. They have been the only program that I have seen that have actively sued to protect their copyrights. I have seen links to different court opinions where linking to copyrighted material has been argued as legal and illegal, but I doubt you could count on most programs to try and fight it in court due to the costs and the limited recourse for collecting if you win.

Removeyourcontent.com is the service you were talking about, and they are awesome. I'm not privy to what they are doing to pull links, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have figured out some automated solution. The thing is it doesn't benefit them to try and DMCA all links, just the links for the people that hire them. I used to chat with the owner, Eric, before he started his service, since we both used to report links to content we were promoting, the thought being if we were trying to make money off it it benefited us for it not to be readily available free.

A few months ago, I believe some of the people promoting tranny content were ganging up and reporting all links to tranny content they could find (I think they were all from a tranny webmaster forum I can't mention here). I remember some big forums like planetsuzy had hundreds of pages of links to tranny content deleted from the file sharing sites, and some of the posters were so pissed they gave up and quit posting. For whatever reason the people reporting the links quit, but it just goes to show something could be done if anyone cared enough to put in the time...
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You will probably have better luck getting your content off rapidshare and the other file hosts.
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Just wondering. Is it worth time writing to them or they are behind bulet proof glass and just ignore them. I see DMCA link but by looking at all of those rips Im starting to doubt they give a damn.
send the DMCA to them, then to their hoist and google.
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The site may not care, but their host, and their host's host likely do. Send them all the way up the hosting provider line and look for any other service providers and send to them also.
This is the correct DMCA.
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