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Old 04-30-2009, 03:23 AM   #1
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1 in 3 new Wm's are scamming fraudsters :(

FFS ... seriously is it just us or are other WM programs seeing a huge increase in scamming wankers?

We are getting close to 1 in 3 new WM's who signup to our proggy being scamming assholes who send fraud SU's, wait till payout and then chargeback. We aren't a large program so catch most of them before they pull it off but god knows how many larger proggys deal with it
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:14 AM   #2
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:22 AM   #3
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:41 AM   #4
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Which of course means the majority aren't scammers.

That said..yes in the last couple weeks the fraudsters are out. There appears to be a ring of them working together too. Everyday almost one of them signs up and we catch them.

It makes me really appreciate the good affiliates. Which, of course are the majority.
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:45 AM   #5
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FFS ... seriously is it just us or are other WM programs seeing a huge increase in scamming wankers?

We are getting close to 1 in 3 new WM's who signup to our proggy being scamming assholes who send fraud SU's, wait till payout and then chargeback. We aren't a large program so catch most of them before they pull it off but god knows how many larger proggys deal with it
Yep its been crazy the last 3 months... Make sure you issue credits before they chargeback to try and save the $25 CB fee.
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:49 AM   #6
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Which of course means the majority aren't scammers.

That said..yes in the last couple weeks the fraudsters are out. There appears to be a ring of them working together too. Everyday almost one of them signs up and we catch them.

It makes me really appreciate the good affiliates. Which, of course are the majority.
You took the words right out of my mouth Sarah well said
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:55 AM   #7
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Limit your program to only webmasters you know. Yes, it would limit your income, but save you from scammers.
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Old 04-30-2009, 05:11 AM   #8
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Limit your program to only webmasters you know. Yes, it would limit your income, but save you from scammers.
looks like he's doing it already.. he runs a program, but doesn't even have a sig
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:20 AM   #9
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There's been a definite rise in the last few months.
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:20 AM   #10
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looks like he's doing it already.. he runs a program, but doesn't even have a sig
But he have sig on other boards.
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:24 AM   #11
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Can't you contest the chargebacks?
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Old 04-30-2009, 06:26 AM   #12
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it cant be that bad?
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:11 AM   #13
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I see a lot more "chatters" sending loads of fraudulant traffic.
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:23 AM   #14
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In my opinion, honest webmasters prefer revshare programs... I know there are some that will say they prefer PPS... but I think the overwhelming majority don't. In addition, if your program accepts affiliates from countries that can't even buy porn... why would you not think you would get scammed?
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:24 AM   #15
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Old 04-30-2009, 07:41 AM   #16
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I can pick out scammers with my eyes closed. Most of them are morons.
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Old 04-30-2009, 08:14 AM   #17
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I see a lot more "chatters" sending loads of fraudulant traffic.
'ma'am do you take chat traffic? We not fraud'.

I haven't had one yet today. They are slacking.
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Old 04-30-2009, 10:53 AM   #18
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do i need to add them? www.jscottcash.com/blacklist.php
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:05 AM   #19
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Affiliates could say the same about programs these days, 1 in 3 programs have extremely shady operations ;)
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:12 AM   #20
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it's even worse in the Rx niche (which used to be my day job). Try blacklisting certain countries from even signing up.
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:15 AM   #21
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Affiliates could say the same about programs these days, 1 in 3 programs have extremely shady operations ;)
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LOL. This is true...

The Filipino webmasters try to pass on chat traffic are getting annoying...
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:18 AM   #22
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It is possible to train the flips into genuine marketers, takes some effort tho. They just dont get what they need to do without your guidance and they dont understand that the methods they use dont work for the sponsor.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:40 PM   #24
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LOL. This is true...

The Filipino webmasters try to pass on chat traffic are getting annoying...
Yep, they hop from sponsor to sponsor seeking anyone who will pay them for their signups.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:42 PM   #25
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Which of course means the majority aren't scammers.

That said..yes in the last couple weeks the fraudsters are out. There appears to be a ring of them working together too. Everyday almost one of them signs up and we catch them.

It makes me really appreciate the good affiliates. Which, of course are the majority.
Some of your replies make me laugh British Bird.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:42 PM   #26
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FFS ... seriously is it just us or are other WM programs seeing a huge increase in scamming wankers?

We are getting close to 1 in 3 new WM's who signup to our proggy being scamming assholes who send fraud SU's, wait till payout and then chargeback. We aren't a large program so catch most of them before they pull it off but god knows how many larger proggys deal with it
You sure it's not just the same ones signing up over and over again?
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Old 04-30-2009, 01:12 PM   #27
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Some of your replies make me laugh British Bird.
I gather that but I am never really sure why particular posts get your attention. I don't think I said anything too odd. At least not any more odd than usual.
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