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Old 06-07-2009, 07:08 PM   #1
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Hillary Clinton just annonced that should iran..

if iran nukes Israel America will retaliate, I mean seriously is that what it will take?

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Clinton Says Strike to Follow If Iran Attacks Israel

By Indira A.R. Lakshmanan

June 7 (Bloomberg) -- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said a nuclear attack by Iran on Israel would be followed by retaliation against the Islamic Republic.

?I don?t think there is any doubt in anyone?s mind that were Israel to suffer a nuclear attack by Iran, there would be retaliation,? she said in a taped interview airing today on ABC?s ?This Week? program.

Clinton was asked whether her statement as a presidential candidate that Iran would ?incur massive retaliation? for attacking Israel is now official U.S. policy. ?I think it is U.S. policy to the extent that we have alliances and understandings with a number of nations,? Clinton said. ?I think there would be retaliation.?

Clinton said the U.S. needs to make clear to Iran that pursuing nuclear weapons will undermine peace and security for Iran and the entire region. With Arab states and Israel anxious about Iran?s intentions, there?s danger of ?a Middle East arms race which leads to nuclear weapons being in the possession of other countries,? she said.

Asked whether she was skeptical that President Barack Obama?s policy of engagement can succeed in forestalling Iran?s nuclear ambitions, Clinton replied, ?Well, I am someone who is going to wait and see.?

While dialogue would give both sides better information about one another, the U.S. has ?to be willing to sit and listen and evaluate without giving up what we view as a primary objective of the engagement, which is to do everything we can to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear weapons state.?

UN Investigation

Iran, which has been under investigation by the United Nations International Atomic Energy Agency since 2003, has enough low-enriched uranium to produce the minimum amount needed for a bomb if the material were further enriched to weapons grade. The government in Tehran denies that it wants atomic weapons, saying the enriched uranium is to fuel a nuclear reactor.

On the issue of Israeli settlements on the West Bank, Clinton refuted recent statements by former and current Israeli government officials that the Bush administration had verbally agreed for Israel to continue building structures within existing Jewish settlement areas.

?That was never made a part of the official record of the negotiations as it was passed on to our administration,? Clinton said. ?In fact, there is also a record that President Bush contradicted even that oral agreement? to which Israeli officials have referred.

Israeli Settlements

Obama and Clinton have repeatedly said Israel must cease any further settlement construction in order to abide by their commitments under the ?road map? for Middle East peace that Israel and the Palestinians entered into under the Bush administration.

Clinton also said she was worried about ?an arms race in Northeast Asia? in the aftermath of North Korea?s multiple missile tests, purported nuclear tests and threatening rhetoric against South Korea, which the U.S. is treaty-bound to defend against attack. The Korean peninsula remains technically at war, since the 1950-53 Korean War ended with an armistice, not a peace treaty.

Clinton said progress is being made in the UN Security Council toward imposing additional financial sanctions, an arms embargo and other measures ?against North Korea with the full support of China and Russia.?

?We are working very hard to create a mechanism where we can interdict North Korean shipments,? to stop the Stalinist regime from proliferating weapons, as it has in the past, she said. If they try to ship nuclear material, ?we will do everything we can to both interdict it and prevent it and shut off their flow of money.?

Terrorist Designation

Asked if the U.S. would put North Korea back on the list of state sponsors of terrorism, Clinton said, ?We?re going to look at it. There?s a process for it. Obviously we?d want to see recent evidence of their support for international terrorism.?

North Korea was removed from the list last fall after the Bush administration certified that they were not promoting terrorism. The move was intended in part as a confidence- building measure to get the government in Pyongyang to return to stalled talks to eliminate their nuclear weapons program.
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Old 06-07-2009, 07:25 PM   #2
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Question?

Why not worry about something that would actually happen?

They don't even have a nuke and we are already accusing them of using it.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:02 PM   #3
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Question?

Why not worry about something that would actually happen?

They don't even have a nuke and we are already accusing them of using it.
just imagine if it was iran making a threat to nuke parts of Africa and respond again

real fool
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:11 PM   #4
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just imagine if it was iran making a threat to nuke parts of Africa and respond again

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Why the fuck would I give a shit about Africa?

Quit smoking rocks!!

Just imagine if a giant green ant started eating all of America. OMG!!!
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:13 PM   #5
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Iran is the new Y2K.

Please take all this halloween fear monger shit someone where else.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:13 PM   #6
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Why the fuck would I give a shit about Africa?

Quit smoking rocks!!

Just imagine if a giant green ant started eating all of America. OMG!!!
I mean he made it clear he wants to wipe Israel off the map, we didnt think NK had any real nukes yet but we found out last week they did, something powerful enough to register a 4.7mag quake at the time of the test.

You cant wait and wait sometimes, a nuke is a serious think
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:18 PM   #7
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I mean he made it clear he wants to wipe Israel off the map, we didnt think NK had any real nukes yet but we found out last week they did, something powerful enough to register a 4.7mag quake at the time of the test.

You cant wait and wait sometimes, a nuke is a serious think
Please, same old fear rhetoric.

The voters have rejected the idiots that sold you this crap, so wake up like
the rest of us.

Where is all the WMD from Iraq???????????????
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I don't really care about Iran. Pushing them around a ton certainly won't help the matter.
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I mean he made it clear he wants to wipe Israel off the map, we didnt think NK had any real nukes yet but we found out last week they did, something powerful enough to register a 4.7mag quake at the time of the test.

You cant wait and wait sometimes, a nuke is a serious think
Yeah but Israel's made it clear that they want Iran off the map, and to add to that Israel has illegal nukes + refuse to sign the nuclear nonproliferation treaty that Iran is a part of. Sending the same investigators that are in Iran to Israel is unheard of and no one says anything about the most extreme of extreme religious countries having illegal nukes (as verified by a US president).
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:28 PM   #10
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I don't really care about Iran. Pushing them around a ton certainly won't help the matter.
True.

The issue is "some" people want things to get worse because that is the best hope
they have for their "real agenda"; which is to force America to go all out in the middle
east and destroy any power held by Arabs.
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:28 PM   #11
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Please, same old fear rhetoric.

The voters have rejected the idiots that sold you this crap, so wake up like
the rest of us.

Where is all the WMD from Iraq???????????????
yeah I knew from your very first reply the type of junk you are, this is not about WMD and the voters for the most part are people who have a long time history of making bad choices, like I said imagine its africa
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Old 06-07-2009, 08:31 PM   #12
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yeah I knew from your very first reply the type of junk you are, this is not about WMD and the voters for the most part are people who have a long time history of making bad choices, like I said imagine its africa
I imagined it was Africa and my thoughts were "I don't give a fuck".

If I thought Iran would ever use a nuke I would be concerned no matter who/where they
use it.

Oh wait. I just figure out the africa shit. You think that's my pic in the avatar.

Idiot.
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It's funny when the government makes statements that have been more or less widely known for years but it's considered news. Did anyone on this planet think that if Iran had a nuke and used it on Israel that the US would sit back and say "Well that's a shame."? Puhleeze. I mean nuking Iran in retaliation to them nuking anyone has probably been a running joke behind closed doors for a while now.
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True.

The issue is "some" people want things to get worse because that is the best hope
they have for their "real agenda"; which is to force America to go all out in the middle
east and destroy any power held by Arabs.
I wouldn't go that far, but it is certainly in the interests of many people to be at war with someone.

It keeps a lot of people employed and a few people very rich.
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It's funny when the government makes statements that have been more or less widely known for years but it's considered news. Did anyone on this planet think that if Iran had a nuke and used it on Israel that the US would sit back and say "Well that's a shame."? Puhleeze. I mean nuking Iran in retaliation to them nuking anyone has probably been a running joke behind closed doors for a while now.
nuking in a retaliation would be excessive - lots of civilian deaths - but im sure the US could carpet iran with conventional bombs VERY quickly, the US military is not to be fucked with but at the same time iran has rights too
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If this happened that gonna be a world war 3
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In other foreign relations news, North Korea announced that it intends to hold US civilians
hostage for another twelve years. The hostages were taken just one month after Barak
"let's be nice to N. Korea, not tough" Obama was elected president. In the same election,
Obama gained more support from a larger "let's be as weak and spineless as possible"
democrat majority.
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Makes me wonder what Hillary could have achieved as a Republican.
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Makes me wonder what Hillary could have achieved as a Republican.
She would have beaten out Palin and be home sitting on her ass right now
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In other foreign relations news, North Korea announced that it intends to hold US civilians
hostage for another twelve years. The hostages were taken just one month after Barak
"let's be nice to N. Korea, not tough" Obama was elected president. In the same election,
Obama gained more support from a larger "let's be as weak and spineless as possible"
democrat majority.
Good point! If Obama had bombed North Korea on his first day in office then this
wouldn't have happened.

The USA has threatened to stop North Korean cargo ships at sea but at the same
time talk about doing something about pirates off Somalia.
And we wonder why they have a problem.
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It's funny when the government makes statements that have been more or less widely known for years but it's considered news. Did anyone on this planet think that if Iran had a nuke and used it on Israel that the US would sit back and say "Well that's a shame."? Puhleeze. I mean nuking Iran in retaliation to them nuking anyone has probably been a running joke behind closed doors for a while now.
That is what makes it clearly propaganda and not news.

Odd that Obama has the same propaganda as Bush!
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nuking in a retaliation would be excessive - lots of civilian deaths - but im sure the US could carpet iran with conventional bombs VERY quickly, the US military is not to be fucked with but at the same time iran has rights too
i am pretty sure Israel would take care of things themselves.. they got nuff nukes to put the entire continent into the stone age.
not if but when they see the missiles are heading for Tel Aviv, they will fire their own against Iran and allies.. then they will enter their shelters and come out "on top"..
There is no nation in the world who is as prepared for any type of combat and survival as Israel is..

I think most Israelis want to back of the settlements but are worried it will make them look weak and soft..
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It doesn't matter. I'm in America and we still have nothing to fear from anyone on the planet except for two nations that we are fairly friendly with. We now have nukes that don't detonate until they get underground so we can pretty much nuke any city without fear of sending nuclear fallout to neighboring countries.

We also have lasers systems than can destroy any missile headed for us.
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Yeah but Israel's made it clear that they want Iran off the map, and to add to that Israel has illegal nukes + refuse to sign the nuclear nonproliferation treaty that Iran is a part of. Sending the same investigators that are in Iran to Israel is unheard of and no one says anything about the most extreme of extreme religious countries having illegal nukes (as verified by a US president).
True dat!
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