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Hey James S Grady!!!
For your convenience and the convenience of anybody who received this letter or similar letters, I have some pointers.
You are lucky that you are dealing with idiots who are have no idea as to how exposed they are, and who actually believe any of the crap in your letter. If I were to infringe on your copyright, I would do it in such a way as to not get caught. And if I were to get a letter from you, I would stick it up your ass and that would be the end of it. I don't know what kind of idiot lawyer you have working for you, but it sounds like he is working out of his car. You obtained this persons contact information from a DMCA subpoena. That subpoena ONLY ENTITLES YOU TO USE THAT INFORMATION FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES, not for posting it on the internet and sending cease & desist letters. And it is highly unlikely that you should be allowed to use a DMCA subpoena. If the ISPs had any brains they would have told you to fuck off and get a real one signed by a judge. http://wp-board.com/DennisBeard001CeaseDesist.pdf Quote:
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It's actually not considered criminal copyright infringement. He hasn't posted $2000 worth of your works, and his conduct isn't commercial. I mean, at most it would be whatever a months membership is worth because a user could obtain a months membership and view all of the content available in your members area. And even if we considered the No Electronic Theft Act, we don't see any private financial gain for the poster. Quote:
I assume that you do not hold copyrights in the name of a corporation, since you fail to make any mention of a corporation in your letter. Thus, you are entitled to only your actual damages and revenue from the defendant not attributed to your loss (which is nothing). And your actual damages are? Well, you will not be able to prove actual damages. That is, you will not be able to prove that the conduct of the defendant resulted in lost sales for you. Plainly, each illegal download does not necessarily result in a lost sale. Most of the people on the forum are not willing to pay for pornography. First you would have to prove that your revenue decreased, and the burden would be on you to prove that out of dozens of significant factors, none of those factors were instrumental in causing that revenue decrease. Even if you were entitled to statutory damages, it is most likely that the judge would award you the minimum amount ($750), and not the amount that you seem to seek from this individual ($15,000). These days, it can be argued that, absent aggravating factors, any amount more than 10x the retail value of the work is unconstitutional. Quote:
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There are two issues here. The first is a privacy policy or terms of use. Since the website is no longer up, I cannot see the privacy policy. But it probably contained some restrictions as to what the website was going to do with data that it collected from the user. And that most certainly would have restricted disclosing it to a third party such as yourself. The second thing that a court would weigh would be the reasonable expectation of privacy. And users on forums do have a reasonable expectation of privacy. Maybe not on GFY, where many people post their pictures online, but probably on the forum that you took down. You cannot take this private information and use it as you please, especially in violation of the purpose of a DMCA subpoena. Quote:
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Also, for the record, I had to cut some things from your letter because it was over the character limit.
But I got the entire post down to 9999 characters!
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So Fucking What
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would you mind expanding on this a little more ?
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wootpr0n.
nobody here cares what a stupid want-to-be copyright pirate like you thinks. Talk to the judge yourself (if this ends in court) and stop posting your shit on gfy. |
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I think it would be an accepted concept that having his content posted for free all over the web would certainly dilute his ability to profit from it himself.
BTW I notice you guys who support the torrents and tubes do not ever keep an argument simple and focused and to the point. In a courtroom you will not be able to run a case off track by avoiding to deal with the very specific points brought before the judge. The case points will be raised and you will be required to argue only those. Win or lose. |
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It's over there...
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Drama .....
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which are you? don't say neither because there's not a single person here including GFY's biggest retards who can't see through you and your thread like cellophane.
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Do I lose something...?
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yes, and methinks Wootporn mightest be the owner of pornbb.org.
How can someone actually defend copyright thieves, spouting all of these technicalities, but ignoring basic ethics -- like stealing other people's work is just not right.
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let me guess w00tporn owns a forum with copyrighter material on it, and he thought he would chime in.
also I love how pirate forum owners threaten people that report their rapidshare links, and get all irate, its comical.
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I never argued that operating that forum was right. Obviously, operating that forum and encouraging users to post links to unauthorized copyrighted material could be considered contributory copyright infringement. I was just arguing that these letters demanding payment of millions of dollars are obscene, if not illegal, and that you wouldn't have much of a case suing individuals who are posting links to material.
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