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Old 07-01-2009, 03:37 AM   #51
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:46 AM   #52
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Is netpondcash somehow related with cashuncovered?

Some sites are the same but the payment links seem to be different.
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:58 AM   #53
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Old 07-01-2009, 03:59 AM   #54
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Is netpondcash somehow related with cashuncovered?

Some sites are the same but the payment links seem to be different.
cashuncovered is a netpond program

netpondcash doesnt use nats, cashuncovered is their nats version
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cashuncovered is a netpond program

netpondcash doesnt use nats, cashuncovered is their nats version
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:05 AM   #56
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if you know he has no money... then you know you are wasting your time. so fuck you and your retarded attitude. it is what it is. not the first sponsor to go tits up ... won't be the last.
Unreal.

So you are saying that if a person does not have the money because he or his partner fucked up ,which is not even the affiliate his problem, the affiliate should remain silent and not say anything?

They probably will not get their money, and many people said before me they know they will not. But that doesn't mean people can't be pissed off.

If everything would happen like this around the world, the world would be one big Never Never Land you.

It just doesn't work that way. People make mistakes so they will have to take responsibility for their actions. If not today, tomorrow.

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Old 07-01-2009, 08:31 AM   #58
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Payments originally came from a UK company, not sure about what happened after they switched to using a different provider
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Unreal.

So you are saying that if a person does not have the money because he or his partner fucked up ,which is not even the affiliate his problem, the affiliate should remain silent and not say anything?

They probably will not get their money, and many people said before me they know they will not. But that doesn't mean people can't be pissed off.

If everything would happen like this around the world, the world would be one big Never Never Land you.

It just doesn't work that way. People make mistakes so they will have to take responsibility for their actions. If not today, tomorrow.

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Of course people can bitch and be pissed off. i was simply pointing out that in an industry FULL of total lying, thieving "fuck you" program owners and webmasters, thats just not where his head is at.

Again... when 200-300 people are e-mailing you non-stop saying "where is my money motherfucker!!" and you have nothing positive to offer... what answer to do you expect?

How does one "take responsibility" if you don't have the means to do the only thing that anyone wants you to do?

I seriously doubt anyone will get paid... but my point was simply that he is not one of those guys that set out to fuck people over as many/most in this business do... whether its webmasters, surfers or whoever.
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Old 07-01-2009, 08:52 AM   #60
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Of course people can bitch and be pissed off. i was simply pointing out that in an industry FULL of total lying, thieving "fuck you" program owners and webmasters, thats just not where his head is at.

Again... when 200-300 people are e-mailing you non-stop saying "where is my money motherfucker!!" and you have nothing positive to offer... what answer to do you expect?

How does one "take responsibility" if you don't have the means to do the only thing that anyone wants you to do?

I seriously doubt anyone will get paid... but my point was simply that he is not one of those guys that set out to fuck people over as many/most in this business do... whether its webmasters, surfers or whoever.
It strikes me that with their access to affiliates, and the authority they've achieved over the years, theirs is quite a substantial program. I wonder where the money is going?

I think if you can't afford to pay the affiliates sending the traffic, I'd certainly hope they aren't updating their members areas either... OR buying ad spots...

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My condolences to those owed money.....if this never gets rectified.

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I am owed over 3k but I still have patience. The board is still open and the program is still running. That is a good sign.
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It's still up so he can pay his bills.. not so he can pay you.
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I am owed over 3k but I still have patience. The board is still open and the program is still running. That is a good sign.
You don't find it odd that for 3-4 months they have processed joins from affiliates, taken in ad money from their board, but have not paid the affiliates at all?
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You don't find it odd that for 3-4 months they have processed joins from affiliates, taken in ad money from their board, but have not paid the affiliates at all?
mike cant seem to get a grip on the situation
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Old 07-01-2009, 02:27 PM   #66
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It strikes me that with their access to affiliates, and the authority they've achieved over the years, theirs is quite a substantial program. I wonder where the money is going?

I think if you can't afford to pay the affiliates sending the traffic, I'd certainly hope they aren't updating their members areas either... OR buying ad spots...

They took over Netpond with 6 figures in monthly ad revenue.... they spent every penny of it and chased it all the way down to almost nothing as ad revenues collapsed. they had a mansion outside London for an office (where meat lived), they had a large staff, they were flying large crews to shows, they were developing stuff etc etc etc. if you think they made money with Netpond, you are mistaken. even today, i doubt it makes enough to pay for Meats weed. there were silent partners in Netpond in addition to meat and Aga that just walked away because they knew they could never get cashed out and it was all quickly becoming a financial liability. They also ended up with massive debts from one of their ventures.

There is nothing "substantial" about their program. and when you are mismanaging money and partnered with a full blown, gap toothed retard who should be wearing a helmet 24/7 for his own safety, it pretty hard for things not to derail financially.

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There is nothing "substantial" about their program. and when you are mismanaging money and partnered with a full blown, gap toothed retard who should be wearing a helmet 24/7 for his own safety, it pretty hard for things not to derail financially.

Stuff like this will eventually teach me not to eat grapes and read gfy at the same time.

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We have a few legal issues as the partners who supplied us the content for all of our sites have fucked us big time. We sued them for xx million but they are squealing like stuck pigs protesting about the lawsuit and have applied for security of costs as they believe that Meat is not an EU resident and have obtianed an order for us to pay a very substantial amount to the court in a bond to keep the lawsuit active.

If we lose this lawsuit then all of our affilaites could potentially infringe the copyright of the defendants and suffer the consequences of that.

Good news is that the defendants seem to have employed a bunch of retards to represent them. The trial date is set for next month. In the meantime I plan for all affiliates to be paid up to date very soon.

Pleasurepays, I love you too! lol!
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We have a few legal issues as the partners who supplied us the content for all of our sites have fucked us big time. We sued them for xx million but they are squealing like stuck pigs protesting about the lawsuit and have applied for security of costs as they believe that Meat is not an EU resident and have obtianed an order for us to pay a very substantial amount to the court in a bond to keep the lawsuit active.

If we lose this lawsuit then all of our affilaites could potentially infringe the copyright of the defendants and suffer the consequences of that.

Good news is that the defendants seem to have employed a bunch of retards to represent them. The trial date is set for next month. In the meantime I plan for all affiliates to be paid up to date very soon.

Pleasurepays, I love you too! lol!

FACT - Even if your content provider did fuck you you still should be paying your webmasters regardless of your own personal problems.

It is almost laughable that you finally bother to do some explaining to all the webmasters you've been jerking around for months and it still contains the words 'affiliates will be paid up to date soon'.

You are using affiliates money to pay for your fucking court case and there is still, in your own words' a chance that not only will webmasters not be paid but they could also be sued!?!?!

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Old 07-01-2009, 07:18 PM   #70
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I'm confused. Why would a company as big as yourself let the content providers have control over anything? You didn't have contracts to protect this? So what you are really saying is, you can't pay your hardworking affiliates because you are having problems. And they are all supposed to hang around until you resolve these issues. Seems the good business not greedy business should not be your slogan. But that’s just my 2 cents. Can we see a link to this lawsuit you are dealing with please. Also why not respond to your own forum and loyal members?
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Thanks for the update Aga.

Been doing biz with the np guys for a while, first time anything like this has happened, not like them to fuck people over. Less than ideal situation, lawsuits are nasty.
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We have a few legal issues as the partners who supplied us the content for all of our sites have fucked us big time. We sued them for xx million but they are squealing like stuck pigs protesting about the lawsuit and have applied for security of costs as they believe that Meat is not an EU resident and have obtianed an order for us to pay a very substantial amount to the court in a bond to keep the lawsuit active.

If we lose this lawsuit then all of our affilaites could potentially infringe the copyright of the defendants and suffer the consequences of that.

Good news is that the defendants seem to have employed a bunch of retards to represent them. The trial date is set for next month. In the meantime I plan for all affiliates to be paid up to date very soon.

Pleasurepays, I love you too! lol!
I'm glad to see you in here addressing this. I think that shows that you are trying to get everything worked out.

If you were trying to avoid paying anyone you wouldn't be posting on the boards like this.

I have faith that you will pay me and everyone else as soon as possible. Based on my past dealings with you guys I have no reason to believe otherwise. I will try to be patient and wait for things to get cleared up.
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sometimes you think you're gonna pull through and everything will work out.. sometimes it all goes bad. i'm sorry you lost money. but that doesn't mean someone will magically make money appear from thin air.

if you know he has no money... then you know you are wasting your time. so fuck you and your retarded attitude. it is what it is. not the first sponsor to go tits up ... won't be the last.

what do i consider a bad guy? someone who lies to your face with the knowledge up front that they are going to fuck you in the ass and proceeds to do so, with great pleasure.
So by your retarded logic everyone who's owed money by Batts should smile and go with it cause if you know he has no money, you're not gonna squeeze any out of him. Not the first sponsor to go tits up ... won't be the last. You really are a fucking retard
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Thanks for the update Aga.

Been doing biz with the np guys for a while, first time anything like this has happened, not like them to fuck people over. Less than ideal situation, lawsuits are nasty.
Well it's partly cos of the rosy image that you & that other 'legend' admin have given to retard meat & oddball aga, that people have stuck with them for so long. You be sure & hold your hands up when finally people realise they've been ripped off.
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I was owed $400-ish - gave up on it few months ago, no big deal - it's just the annoyance of being fucked over that bugs.

I feel for the people owed serious cash - having read the lords drivel, you've two chances of being paid - none & fuck all. 'Blame it on the lawsuit' they'll cry.

The program itself is dead - interestingly they seemed to almost be wanting to kill it off years ago...
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Odd thing is, the people they are suing for 'xx million' are still paying their affiliates
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So by your retarded logic everyone who's owed money by Batts should smile and go with it cause if you know he has no money, you're not gonna squeeze any out of him. Not the first sponsor to go tits up ... won't be the last. You really are a fucking retard
yeah idiot. you make perfect sense ... go ahead spend your time chasing that fat, sloppy, delusional moron around the internet reminding him that he owes you money, when you know you won't collect it. don't spend your time focusing on business and moving forward. i mean... why wouldn't someone do that? seems like a very productive way to spend ones time!

i hate to break it to you kid, losing money is part of business. failed relationships are a part of business. people not living up to their end of the deal is part of business. things going wrong in a relationship is part of business. understanding and knowing when to cut your losses is part of business.

your mom is gonna be pissed when she finds out you are posting here rather than doing your homework and taking a bath.
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yeah idiot. you make perfect sense ... go ahead spend your time chasing that fat, sloppy, delusional moron around the internet reminding him that he owes you money, when you know you won't collect it. don't spend your time focusing on business and moving forward. i mean... why wouldn't someone do that? seems like a very productive way to spend ones time!

i hate to break it to you kid, losing money is part of business. failed relationships are a part of business. people not living up to their end of the deal is part of business. things going wrong in a relationship is part of business. understanding and knowing when to cut your losses is part of business.

your mom is gonna be pissed when she finds out you are posting here rather than doing your homework and taking a bath.


How actually are you focusing on business? enlighten us all please?

Nobody is spending any more time chasing anyone around the internet than you are.

We complain about being ripped off and that somehow is so fucking wrong in your delusional eyes but you complaining about us complaining is somehow righteous and some sort of new business strategy is it ?

Feel free to try again though I will serve it up to you all fucking day dopey
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Well it's partly cos of the rosy image that you & that other 'legend' admin have given to retard meat & oddball aga, that people have stuck with them for so long. You be sure & hold your hands up when finally people realise they've been ripped off.
I'm owed money too, quite a chunk. I have done a lot with the guys over the years, would still be surprised if they just cut and ran. Yes its a fucked up situation, and sure its a few $k I could put to good use but there is nothing much I can do about it.

I honestly think I and others will get paid eventually, though if I am wrong then so be it, will jump that ditch when/if it comes. Btw wtf is a "ledgend admin" and what glorious deed does one have to accomplish to have such a glowing title ? ;)
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How actually are you focusing on business? enlighten us all please?

Nobody is spending any more time chasing anyone around the internet than you are.

We complain about being ripped off and that somehow is so fucking wrong in your delusional eyes but you complaining about us complaining is somehow righteous and some sort of new business strategy is it ?

Feel free to try again though I will serve it up to you all fucking day dopey
actually... all i said in the beginning was that Aga was not the type of person to set out to fuck people over. you morons turned what i said into something it wasn't.

how do i focus on business? i work. its called productivity. i post on this board maybe 4-5 times a day. i work usually 12hr days or more and probably about 70-80hrs a week. time is an investment. either you are seeing a return, or you aren't.

crusading against something you can't change is a bad investment of time and energy.

that's not a tough concept to understand.
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....then, like me, it is time to accept we have been ripped off by 'lord aga'

lord of spin and speaking bullshit and hereby demoted to fucking peon

3 months of the bare minimum of information and clear deception on his part

April

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Aga you have been stringing your loyal members and webmasters along for months man and now its time you got some free advertising.

You have provided no solid answers and your extremely limited and unhelpful replies have been spun so as to string people as long as possible.

So Aga welcome to the list of industry scum who have fucked the average hard working webmaster in the ass with no lube.

Hope you are proud of yourself bitch
but but but, you're so intelligent!
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Old 07-02-2009, 05:52 AM   #86
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What's this Netpond everyone speaks of??

I remember a site called that but it was 7-8 years ago.
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We have a few legal issues as the partners who supplied us the content for all of our sites have fucked us big time. We sued them for xx million but they are squealing like stuck pigs protesting about the lawsuit and have applied for security of costs as they believe that Meat is not an EU resident and have obtianed an order for us to pay a very substantial amount to the court in a bond to keep the lawsuit active.

If we lose this lawsuit then all of our affilaites could potentially infringe the copyright of the defendants and suffer the consequences of that.

Good news is that the defendants seem to have employed a bunch of retards to represent them. The trial date is set for next month. In the meantime I plan for all affiliates to be paid up to date very soon.

Pleasurepays, I love you too! lol!

good luck with that
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:30 AM   #88
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Well I hope this all sorts it's self out. I got my start at the Net Pond flat boards along time ago and Aga and Meat were the first few folks in this biz I met. I highly doubt they like this situation as much as the guys not being paid. GL people.
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Aga is a good guy who tries to do the right thing. His biggest downfall was partnering with Meat when they got Netpond back from Nick. Meat is a fucking disaster in every possible sense of the word and Aga remained very loyal to everyone including Meat and would never cut that hapless idiot loose and didn't until it was far too late. Anyone that thinks Meat is close to normal, is a fucking retard or does not know what they are talking about and who they are talking about. He's a grown man with an IQ of 20 that needs full time supervision just to make sure he doesn't hurt himself. Aga, always felt sympathy for him and tried to help him.

They took over Netpond (had to buy it back) with 6 figures a month in ad revenue and that site got ran right into the ground so quickly and they couldn't fire people fast enough or cut costs fast enough to stay ahead of declining ad revenue... all while trying to fund other projects like the dialer debacle, Meats "beta brigade", fantasy, netpond cash etc to keep everything afloat.

He didn't start out with any bad intentions. I'm sure the last thing he ever wanted was for anyone to not get paid. He is a genuinely good guy. Things just go sideways sometimes in business and at the end of the day, all you are getting is 100 emails like "Hey Motherfucker...." from people who aren't going to be happy with any answer other than "payments will be sent shortly".

I know where he is and what he's doing and bumping this thread isn't going to phase him one bit. He barely ever reads the boards anyway... and i think we are all intelligent enough to know that you can't squeeze water from a rock.
So what you are saying is that AGA and/or Meat are/ is broke. Busted. Can't pay. Water from a stone? Is that correct?
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:56 AM   #90
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but but but, you're so intelligent!
and you have been there
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Old 07-02-2009, 07:58 AM   #91
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I'm glad to see you in here addressing this. I think that shows that you are trying to get everything worked out.

If you were trying to avoid paying anyone you wouldn't be posting on the boards like this.
Yes because in the past when companies have gone under, and/or skipped town with everyone else's money, they never ever ever made public statements saying everything was ok and as soon as "thus and so" happened, everyone would be paid.

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Old 07-02-2009, 09:11 AM   #92
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Meat, AGA, whatever you do, I'll love you guys and I can't care less what a bunch of whiners talk shit about you guys!

The best times I had in UK was with Meat and AGA.
Fuck all whining cumsucking GFYers.
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Old 07-02-2009, 09:22 AM   #93
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Pretty please, with sugar on top. Pay the fucking webmaster ...
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Some interesting information off netpond from sleazybear. Hopefully it all gets sorted out.

"Ok, I can put all this into prospective.. One post to compile everything..

A company that supplied images to NC and CU was under contract for exclusive content. In return they got a % of the money generated from those sites. They inturn violated the contracted when they opened there own sites with the same content. Then they wanted all the content and the sites that used there content pulled from NC and CU and fuck all the affiliates.
This would of not only crushed NC and CU but also every webmaster that promotes the program.

Meat and Aga filed a lawsuit and they counter sued... Everything was rolling along fine. Then the office and Meat and Aga moved to Spain, this is where it got screwed up. Because now the judge has no juristiction over the Meat and Aga or the company. So there lawyers got the judge to issue that Meat and Aga had to issue security bonds to cover the cost of there lawyers plus the cost of the counter suit if Meat and Aga lost.
This is really put a huge dent in everything, Meat and Aga are scrambling to cover these bonds, there is a new one every month it seems like because every time there lawyers do something they are charging outragous fee's and interest and all this other crap that goes with them.
I knew this, I thought Aga had posted something about this, but I guess my alzhymers kicked and and I imagened it.

Now what happens, If Netpond wins everyone gets paid, and the sites stays and the content provider has to honor the contract.

Now if they loose do you loose, No.. Yes you will have to pull the content. But you will be paid. Meat and Aga will no longer have to cover those security bonds and everything is fine.

Now was I supose to post this, I have no clue, but I have taken what was posted on gfy and explained it to you all.

This is another example of how Meat and Aga got fucked by trying to help a content provider out, by supplying everything and all he had to do was shoot content. I seen the contract.

Meat and Aga have looked like shit for the last couple of months because of non payment, but in all truths, the payments haven't been made because they are trying to protect the webmasters that do promote the program.

I hope everything understands this now."
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Old 07-02-2009, 10:41 AM   #96
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Problems with an affiliate program going south fucking up Netpond!!!!?????

Oh fuck!!!

Oh...sweet this time its not me

LOL ;)

Hmmm guess its my turn for this shit...

"There once was a webmaster called Meat...."

;-)))

Fuck assing about aside...and despite my rec0rd with Meat and Aga...I wish them and netpond all the best.

But you gotta love the irony
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Nick, yes, the irony, at least for us who recall meat's poetry, is unescapable, I can only imagine the size of the grin on your face!
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Nick, yes, the irony, at least for us who recall meat's poetry, is unescapable, I can only imagine the size of the grin on your face!
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Oh yes... LOL
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holy shit nooooooooooo, and I was here all day long and I did miss my sig spot!
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