Affiliate Fraud - Program Owners check for this epass

[Dirty D]

Guys please check for any affiliate using the Epassporte account - grooverty

Typical carder...
Took me a whole week to figure this one out - lol

No one has ever gotten paid for sending us a bogus join. Zero - Nada
Thousands do get paid on time for sending us valid joins.

Go scam someone that doesn't know better

[Big Red Machine]

Good Looking Out D
I hope all is well my friend

[BobG]

Originally Posted by Dirty D

Guys please check for any affiliate using the Epassporte account - grooverty

Typical carder...
Took me a whole week to figure this one out - lol

No one has ever gotten paid for sending us a bogus join. Zero - Nada
Thousands do get paid on time for sending us valid joins.

Go scam someone that doesn't know better

I have a bunch of these lately. One even contacted me on icq to ask, "When you pay me?"

[Dirty D]

Feel free to Post the epassporte ID of your fraudulent webmasters.

The ones that commit fraud are no good to anyone

[Michael O]

Please email [email protected] as well.

[SeanLEE]

Originally Posted by Dirty D

Go scam someone that doesn't know better

[quantum-x]

Originally Posted by Michael O

Please email [email protected] as well.

I swat about 5 of these guys a week. Didn't realise EP took an active interest in it..

[Thurbs]

Originally Posted by quantum-x

I swat about 5 of these guys a week. Didn't realise EP took an active interest in it..

EP not only kills accounts ( Unfortunately for every 1 time they are caught, most likely they have hit 5-10 other programs already ) - but they will redund money on the offchance u paid it and the even farther off chance that they didn't pull it out same minute.

[Pics Traffic]

Bunch of them lately.

[Furious_Male]

Originally Posted by Thurbs

EP not only kills accounts ( Unfortunately for every 1 time they are caught, most likely they have hit 5-10 other programs already ) - but they will redund money on the offchance u paid it and the even farther off chance that they didn't pull it out same minute.

2-3 years ago I tried sending these over to Pearl as instructed with concrete evidence of fraud and was told 99% of the time "the account was in good standing".

A year later affiliate owners started posting the same lists I had compiled.

Glad to hear they are finally doing something about it.

[Dirty D]

Originally Posted by Michael O

Please email [email protected] as well.

Glad to know you guys shut these accounts down.

[fris]

let me guess he also hit you up askig when to be paid

[Dirty D]

Originally Posted by fris

let me guess he also hit you up askig when to be paid

no, but it is always a red flag.

[Nicky]

Originally Posted by Dirty D

no, but it is always a red flag.

Is It? I didn't know cause I have been late paid by nearly every proggie I have worked with. When It's 1 week over I have the right to ask IMO. I have nothing to do with this thread or anything and understand It's on other circumstances but I hope an affiliate just hitting up and asking when the payout is is not raising a red flag?

[Dirty D]

Originally Posted by Nicky

Is It? I didn't know cause I have been late paid by nearly every proggie I have worked with. When It's 1 week over I have the right to ask IMO. I have nothing to do with this thread or anything and understand It's on other circumstances but I hope an affiliate just hitting up and asking when the payout is is not raising a red flag?

Of course there is nothing wrong with contacting us regarding a question of payment (or anything else!)

We have never paid late!

However, it will cause me to look at your account when you hit me up.
So in that regard it is a red flag or a reason to review your traffic/sales/members.
Normally this is a good thing... but not for fraudulent affiliates

[Nicky]

Originally Posted by Dirty D

Of course there is nothing wrong with contacting us regarding a question of payment (or anything else!)

We have never paid late!

However, it will cause me to look at your account when you hit me up.
So in that regard it is a red flag or a reason to review your traffic/sales/members.
Normally this is a good thing... but not for fraudulent affiliates

Ok. Just checking hehe.

[NickB.]

this clown has been banned across the board on our programs a while ago

[AdultHardcore]

Scammers suck so bad!!!

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by AdultHardcore

Scammers suck so bad!!!

and even more!

[Pics Traffic]

I have question for Michael from epass.
How do those guys manage to open multiple accounts living in countries like vietnam or indonesia? When I opened my epass account I had to send scan of my CC, licence. How do they do it?

[JenniDahling]

Originally Posted by AdultHardcore

Scammers suck so bad!!!

And don't even swallow

[epitome]

Now may be a good time to tell people about the listserv I have setup at lists.thieflist.com.

I setup a straight cheater discussion list but never announced it.

Email admin [at] thieflist [dot] com if you want on. You must work for a program and email me from an email address tied to that program. I have similar lists for the gay side of things...

Through the list, program owners/reps can communicate and tip each other off about cheaters without doing it in a public forum.

I have a similar list setup to share information about known piracy. A lot of gay program owners work together to fight piracy and the list was setup to facilitate such. Getting on that list is trickier though, as the goal is to keep the pirates out.

[pornocruto]

thanks for the heads up.

[Dirty D]

Originally Posted by epitome

Now may be a good time to tell people about the listserv I have setup at lists.thieflist.com.

I setup a straight cheater discussion list but never announced it.

Email admin [at] thieflist [dot] com if you want on. You must work for a program and email me from an email address tied to that program. I have similar lists for the gay side of things...

Through the list, program owners/reps can communicate and tip each other off about cheaters without doing it in a public forum.

I have a similar list setup to share information about known piracy. A lot of gay program owners work together to fight piracy and the list was setup to facilitate such. Getting on that list is trickier though, as the goal is to keep the pirates out.

This is a great idea!

[shimmy2]

just reloc'd to my new office D, i'll hit u up when im done with 2nd round of filming. good to cya

[Lace]

Had a scammer hit me up earlier this week and ask if we accepted debit or credit cards only...after looking into his account, fraud all day long. These guys are popping up left and right lately.

[Pipecrew]

Originally Posted by Dirty D

No one has ever gotten paid for sending us a bogus join. Zero - Nada
Thousands do get paid on time for sending us valid joins.

You're living in Fantasy land if you believe that for 1 second.