Tubes should at least charge a buck!

[BV]

if a surfer can't even pay a buck to get all that shit then fuckem

everyone will make more money

will never happen though, too many porn Robin Hoods today

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by BV

will never happen though, too many porn Robin Hoods today

Even black Robin Hoods too... from that other thread... what is going on with this world!

[Jack Sparrow]

What i miss?

[Barefootsies]

Those tubes you are referring to that give all their shit away for nothing are in the traffic game. They sell pre-paid ad sales monthly to make their mint. Even if they are doing little more than a pump and dump with Alexa rankings, and selling non-converting traffic to a bunch of fools.

They could give a rat's ass about the content, or program dudes other than those buying the ads. They would not wanna rock the boat for the masses, or rankings. That would upset ad sales and pipe dreams of fortune.

Dream on.

[SleazyDream]

Originally Posted by BV

if a surfer can't even pay a buck to get all that shit then fuckem

everyone will make more money

will never happen though, too many porn Robin Hoods today

people used to say that about TGP..............

free porn good - theft bad.

[PowerCum]

Originally Posted by BV

if a surfer can't even pay a buck to get all that shit then fuckem

everyone will make more money

will never happen though, too many porn Robin Hoods today

And who are you to tell me how to run my sites?
How much did you improve your paysites during the last year?

Are your paysites geolocalized properly and translated in different languages? If no --> you fail... I have geolocalized and translated my tube

Is your paysite tour easy enough to navigate or do the surfers have to search specifically where is the join link? As a surfer I would find really difficult the join link on your sites unless I scroll to to the bottom. If no --> you fail... I have conducted extensive usability tests on my tube to see where exactly do surfers click more and why. Nothing is left to improvisation.

Are your videos good enough quality or they are just 320x240 wmv shit encoded at 512 or 700 kbps or just resampled to look better at higher quality? Why not convert your videos to flv or mp4 and stream them instead of having them as wmv? Are you afraid of mac and linux users or you just think they are dumb and don't want to use their cc? If no --> you fail... My tube streams all its content. Since its not a paysite there is no video download link, but you should add it to your site if you want... or not.

Are you aware that some of your paysites tours load EXTREMELY slow? Check the first site in your signature. The other sites load slow but still ok... but the first in your sig has horrible loading speeds. If no --> you fail... Probably you didn't even run metrics to your servers from different parts of the world to see how good does your site load from different locations. Most probably your site loads really fast from China while it sucks when loaded from Europe. Now at leastyou know why Chinese surfers like your site that much, it loads faster than my tube for them.

If you open your members areas for free... between any of your sites and www.sexmultiplex.com what site do you think will prefer the surfers?
If the reply is that they will prefer my site, then you have failed miserably... otherwise, you should check and improve some things.

Of course, you can continue bitching about tubes and whatever else you want... but if I was you, I would center my attention about why surfers don't signup to my sites and go to tubes instead. you can trust me that the free porn tubes offer is not the only reason they dont signup to your sites, it's just one (and very small) of the many reasons.

Now go to www.sexmultiplex.com and cry me a river

[Oracle Porn]

Originally Posted by PowerCum

And who are you to tell me how to run my sites?
How much did you improve your paysites during the last year?

Are your paysites geolocalized properly and translated in different languages? If no --> you fail... I have geolocalized and translated my tube

Is your paysite tour easy enough to navigate or do the surfers have to search specifically where is the join link? As a surfer I would find really difficult the join link on your sites unless I scroll to to the bottom. If no --> you fail... I have conducted extensive usability tests on my tube to see where exactly do surfers click more and why. Nothing is left to improvisation.

Are your videos good enough quality or they are just 320x240 wmv shit encoded at 512 or 700 kbps or just resampled to look better at higher quality? Why not convert your videos to flv or mp4 and stream them instead of having them as wmv? Are you afraid of mac and linux users or you just think they are dumb and don't want to use their cc? If no --> you fail... My tube streams all its content. Since its not a paysite there is no video download link, but you should add it to your site if you want... or not.

Are you aware that some of your paysites tours load EXTREMELY slow? Check the first site in your signature. The other sites load slow but still ok... but the first in your sig has horrible loading speeds. If no --> you fail... Probably you didn't even run metrics to your servers from different parts of the world to see how good does your site load from different locations. Most probably your site loads really fast from China while it sucks when loaded from Europe. Now at leastyou know why Chinese surfers like your site that much, it loads faster than my tube for them.

If you open your members areas for free... between any of your sites and www.sexmultiplex.com what site do you think will prefer the surfers?
If the reply is that they will prefer my site, then you have failed miserably... otherwise, you should check and improve some things.

Of course, you can continue bitching about tubes and whatever else you want... but if I was you, I would center my attention about why surfers don't signup to my sites and go to tubes instead. you can trust me that the free porn tubes offer is not the only reason they dont signup to your sites, it's just one (and very small) of the many reasons.

Now go to www.sexmultiplex.com and cry me a river

I was reading your post and thought u might own some of the biggest tube site judging by your words...then I saw your site...
YOU FAIL!

[HerPimp]

LOL, take it easy. Branding and design doesnt do anything unless the traffic is there and PowerCum's site looks like it is building up nicely with multi languages.

[epitome]

Trade and legal pages are dead links.

Those who cast the first stone...

Traffic is nice though. That is what matters most.

[PowerCum]

Originally Posted by epitome

Trade and legal pages are dead links.

Those who cast the first stone...

Traffic is nice though. That is what matters most.

Thx, didn't notice the broken links in the footer.
Will be fixed today at some time.

[area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

I was reading your post and thought u might own some of the biggest tube site judging by your words...then I saw your site...
YOU FAIL!

[Davy]

Pornhub tried to do it.
Don't know if it worked out.

[Voodoo]

Here is the solution to shutting down illegally obtain free porn sites...

[StinkyPink]

I have a BV bucks channel, and I would figure that your content would be somewhat interesting to my main traffic source. Funny I get signups to other sponsors/sites that have channels on my tube. Why not BV bucks?

Also, you had said in your other tube rant, that your testing shows little/no tube traffic signups. As someone else stated in that thread... have you checked for an increase of type-in traffic? I ask this because your videos are the only ones on my tube that I can think of, that has the domain watermark taking up half the viewable area of the video.

Now... either your stupid watermark turns people off from checking out your tour, or they can still see that watermark burned into their retinas from staring at it the whole time they are trying to enjoy the videos.

Watermarks like that will get you type-ins, so it is the affiliates that have your videos on their tubes that should be bitching about not getting any sales from YOU!

Have a nice day!

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

I was reading your post and thought u might own some of the biggest tube site judging by your words...then I saw your site...
YOU FAIL!

http://siteanalytics.compete.com/sexmultiplex.com/

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by PowerCum

And who are you to tell me how to run my sites?
How much did you improve your paysites during the last year?

Are your paysites geolocalized properly and translated in different languages? If no --> you fail... I have geolocalized and translated my tube

Is your paysite tour easy enough to navigate or do the surfers have to search specifically where is the join link? As a surfer I would find really difficult the join link on your sites unless I scroll to to the bottom. If no --> you fail... I have conducted extensive usability tests on my tube to see where exactly do surfers click more and why. Nothing is left to improvisation.

Are your videos good enough quality or they are just 320x240 wmv shit encoded at 512 or 700 kbps or just resampled to look better at higher quality? Why not convert your videos to flv or mp4 and stream them instead of having them as wmv? Are you afraid of mac and linux users or you just think they are dumb and don't want to use their cc? If no --> you fail... My tube streams all its content. Since its not a paysite there is no video download link, but you should add it to your site if you want... or not.

Are you aware that some of your paysites tours load EXTREMELY slow? Check the first site in your signature. The other sites load slow but still ok... but the first in your sig has horrible loading speeds. If no --> you fail... Probably you didn't even run metrics to your servers from different parts of the world to see how good does your site load from different locations. Most probably your site loads really fast from China while it sucks when loaded from Europe. Now at leastyou know why Chinese surfers like your site that much, it loads faster than my tube for them.

If you open your members areas for free... between any of your sites and www.sexmultiplex.com what site do you think will prefer the surfers?
If the reply is that they will prefer my site, then you have failed miserably... otherwise, you should check and improve some things.

Of course, you can continue bitching about tubes and whatever else you want... but if I was you, I would center my attention about why surfers don't signup to my sites and go to tubes instead. you can trust me that the free porn tubes offer is not the only reason they dont signup to your sites, it's just one (and very small) of the many reasons.

Now go to www.sexmultiplex.com and cry me a river

shut your fucking thieving mouth you greasy spanish cockholster.

[StinkyPink]

Originally Posted by Mutt

shut your fucking thieving mouth you greasy spanish cockholster.

Haha... spanish cockholster!

[BV]

Originally Posted by StinkyPink

I have a BV bucks channel, and I would figure that your content would be somewhat interesting to my main traffic source. Funny I get signups to other sponsors/sites that have channels on my tube. Why not BV bucks?

Also, you had said in your other tube rant, that your testing shows little/no tube traffic signups. As someone else stated in that thread... have you checked for an increase of type-in traffic? I ask this because your videos are the only ones on my tube that I can think of, that has the domain watermark taking up half the viewable area of the video.

Now... either your stupid watermark turns people off from checking out your tour, or they can still see that watermark burned into their retinas from staring at it the whole time they are trying to enjoy the videos.

Watermarks like that will get you type-ins, so it is the affiliates that have your videos on their tubes that should be bitching about not getting any sales from YOU!

Have a nice day!

Dude, you have sent 26 clicks in 13 days since you signed up and your wondering where your sales are?

And you think you're losing how many typeins? hahahah LMFAO

How many clicks am I losing to your fucking AFF adds and all that other shit?

huh?

dumbass

[Semi-Retired-Dave]

I agree...Membership should be .99 cents.

[BV]

Originally Posted by PowerCum

And who are you to tell me how to run my sites?
How much did you improve your paysites during the last year?

Are your paysites geolocalized properly and translated in different languages? If no --> you fail... I have geolocalized and translated my tube

Is your paysite tour easy enough to navigate or do the surfers have to search specifically where is the join link? As a surfer I would find really difficult the join link on your sites unless I scroll to to the bottom. If no --> you fail... I have conducted extensive usability tests on my tube to see where exactly do surfers click more and why. Nothing is left to improvisation.

Are your videos good enough quality or they are just 320x240 wmv shit encoded at 512 or 700 kbps or just resampled to look better at higher quality? Why not convert your videos to flv or mp4 and stream them instead of having them as wmv? Are you afraid of mac and linux users or you just think they are dumb and don't want to use their cc? If no --> you fail... My tube streams all its content. Since its not a paysite there is no video download link, but you should add it to your site if you want... or not.

Are you aware that some of your paysites tours load EXTREMELY slow? Check the first site in your signature. The other sites load slow but still ok... but the first in your sig has horrible loading speeds. If no --> you fail... Probably you didn't even run metrics to your servers from different parts of the world to see how good does your site load from different locations. Most probably your site loads really fast from China while it sucks when loaded from Europe. Now at leastyou know why Chinese surfers like your site that much, it loads faster than my tube for them.

If you open your members areas for free... between any of your sites and www.sexmultiplex.com what site do you think will prefer the surfers?
If the reply is that they will prefer my site, then you have failed miserably... otherwise, you should check and improve some things.

Of course, you can continue bitching about tubes and whatever else you want... but if I was you, I would center my attention about why surfers don't signup to my sites and go to tubes instead. you can trust me that the free porn tubes offer is not the only reason they dont signup to your sites, it's just one (and very small) of the many reasons.

Now go to www.sexmultiplex.com and cry me a river

i'm not even going to reply to that bullshit

if your tube site is so great it ought to be worth a dollar to join it right?

they are there because it's free

don't live in denial

[mmcfadden]

This is going to get good so I'll park here ;)

[thelanman]

Yeah it should not be free

[StinkyPink]

Originally Posted by BV

Dude, you have sent 26 clicks in 13 days since you signed up and your wondering where your sales are?

And you think you're losing how many typeins? hahahah LMFAO

How many clicks am I losing to your fucking AFF adds and all that other shit?

huh?

dumbass

You just proved my point. Only 26 clicks. While some sponsors I have sent hundreds of clicks, same traffic.

My site has been up little over a week. I'm not even using my site as an example, just sayin'.

I do not promote AFF, and never will.
I have cams in my footers.

Bottom line, your bitching about tubes, but this shit works.

[DonovanTrent]

Charging even a dollar could run them afoul of the Safe Harbor provisions of DMCA, if I remember correctly. I believe there's a part in there about being directly compensated for the content. Pre-paid ads ARE compensation but a smart attorney could distinguish them into being something at least within the spirit of the law. But charging a membership fee is a problem.

That said, there are those tubes out there that charge for a premium area where the quality is better and the files are downloadable. Unless everything in THAT area is legal and licensed, then that presents a decent angle for attack.

[whatif_3]

the point of tubes is that they are free. its like microsoft complaining about google coming out with the free wordprocessor, spreadsheet, etc

sucks, but it is what it is, got to figure out new things, not the easiest thing to do on pretty short notice

[BV]

Originally Posted by StinkyPink

You just proved my point. Only 26 clicks. While some sponsors I have sent hundreds of clicks, same traffic.

My site has been up little over a week. I'm not even using my site as an example, just sayin'.

I do not promote AFF, and never will.
I have cams in my footers.

Bottom line, your bitching about tubes, but this shit works.

my bad about aff but same thing on cams or whatever you are doing with your addspace.

your add space would be shit if it was not for your sponsor videos, so bitching about watermarks is pansy ass, especially when u have shit for traffic.

if you can only send 23 clicks in 13 days, the ratio of typeinns per clicks is in the single digit percentages like 5% would be high

so even if for every click you sent you also lost one type in, you would still have only sent 46 clicks in 13 days!!!!!!!!!!!

dumbass, you fail

teencat does better than you, at least he made sales with his tube and he had 10x the traffic you have, which still isnt that much but heh, he made sales

you my friend have shit

i doubt you make 5 sales a month to your flv sponsors, you make 90% of your money from your addspace (which is probably barely even beer money), from using sponsor content!

so don't bitch about watermarks!

so

[StinkyPink]

Look, I am not trying to fight with you, or bash your program. I am trying to make a point and you are missing it. Forget about my site for a minute, and lets look at ALL tubes that promote your sites. That IS what these tube hating threads are about, is it not?

I assume everyone that posts your videos are posting the same vids as I? So lets add all these tubes together and say they all get an estimated 23,000 views per day (or more). How many type-ins do you think you get vs. click thrus from the affiliate tubes? You stated before that tube hits were not converting, and a number of people told you to look at your type-in traffic to see if there was an increase.

My point was simply that YOUR program would be MORE LIKELY to get an increased amount of type-ins since your watermark is like 10x those of other sponsors.

and... BTW, I made 8 sales in my first week with only about 3.5k visitors to my tube. Read my other threads. I have been stoked and bragging a bit, because people like you say it can't be done.

Joins to my cam sponsor? None!

[Jack Sparrow]

Or you could promote their videos on videopages surrounded by banners going to their programs. Just saying, no offense.

Me happy because people liking the video get the right banners to the right programs.
Thems happy because they get signups.
Me happy, because thems and me is happily making the moonays.

And then some..

[StinkyPink]

Originally Posted by mrfrisky

Or you could promote their videos on videopages surrounded by banners going to their programs. Just saying, no offense.

Me happy because people liking the video get the right banners to the right programs.
Thems happy because they get signups.
Me happy, because thems and me is happily making the moonays.

And then some..

Here is an example of a video page for his site beachmodels, 4 outgoing links to his site, plus I have him in the "Premium Paysites" box for ThongMilfs.

http://www.stinkypinkpimpin.com/tube...tag=a4gDWvoQ3t

[BV]

Originally Posted by StinkyPink

Joins to my cam sponsor? None!

you are a liar or stupid, which one is it?


please explain if you have made no cam sales why in the hell do you keep the links up? please explain

[Jack Sparrow]

Sorry my post wasnt aimed at your site, just in general.

[StinkyPink]

Originally Posted by BV

you are a liar or stupid, which one is it?


please explain if you have made no cam sales why in the hell do you keep the links up? please explain

Because I haven't "officially" launched the site yet. I have only posted links and videos in a few highly targeted areas, as I have stated before.

Tube and channel is for the webcams.com channel, whitelabel is for my whitelabel, which is on the fritz atm. And a whopping 80 hits from the footer! WOW! NO SALES!

[PowerCum]

Originally Posted by BV

i'm not even going to reply to that bullshit

if your tube site is so great it ought to be worth a dollar to join it right?

they are there because it's free

don't live in denial

I don't live in denial at all.
That was a paysite some time ago. By accident I left the members area unprotected during a week or two and didn't notice until the server was burning 250 Mbps.

It is free because I decided it to be free. I know its worth money to join there... it was a paysite before, so its well worth the money. The fact that I prefer to give it away for free is completely different story about if it's worth a buck or $29.95 as I was charging before.

I guess you missed completely my point... but that's up to you

[StinkyPink]

Originally Posted by PowerCum

I don't live in denial at all.
That was a paysite some time ago. By accident I left the members area unprotected during a week or two and didn't notice until the server was burning 250 Mbps.

It is free because I decided it to be free. I know its worth money to join there... it was a paysite before, so its well worth the money. The fact that I prefer to give it away for free is completely different story about if it's worth a buck or $29.95 as I was charging before.

I guess you missed completely my point... but that's up to you

He misses everybodies point, his heads up his ass!

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by BV

you are a liar or stupid, which one is it?


please explain if you have made no cam sales why in the hell do you keep the links up? please explain

BV - Dont bother debating with that persons current enhanced board-personality. He was a faliuer with his first usernames here, and as you see, he have not learned from his previous fails.

You are wasting your time. He is absolutely clueless and will keep throwing bullshit theories at you, to try and defend the fact he cant produce a profit.

[StinkyPink]

Originally Posted by KrisH

BV - Dont bother debating with that persons current enhanced board-personality. He was a faliuer with his first usernames here, and as you see, he have not learned from his previous fails.

You are wasting your time. He is absolutely clueless and will keep throwing bullshit theories at you, to try and defend the fact he cant produce a profit.

WTF is "enhanced board-personality"?

[Machete_]

Originally Posted by StinkyPink

WTF is "enhanced board-personality"?

its the best indicator of a fraud pretending to have knowledge

[StinkyPink]

Originally Posted by KrisH

its the best indicator of a fraud pretending to have knowledge

A fraud you say?
Would it make you feel any better if I didn't write in Pink?

Too bad...

[Sarah_Jayne]

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

people used to say that about TGP..............

free porn good - theft bad.

Exactly what I was going to say. It felt like being in a time warp with people complaining about TGPs.

Back when I used to review for JJJ people were always complaining about how people should have to pay for the porn offered. There is just always going to be free porn. It is the theft that is the issue.

[Sarah_Jayne]

Originally Posted by DonovanTrent

Charging even a dollar could run them afoul of the Safe Harbor provisions of DMCA, if I remember correctly. I believe there's a part in there about being directly compensated for the content. Pre-paid ads ARE compensation but a smart attorney could distinguish them into being something at least within the spirit of the law. But charging a membership fee is a problem.

That said, there are those tubes out there that charge for a premium area where the quality is better and the files are downloadable. Unless everything in THAT area is legal and licensed, then that presents a decent angle for attack.

Most that have premium sections don't run them on their own.