Are there paysites that still make 10+ full sales per day?

[pythonx]

Standard 30-day memberships... ($30 - $40 in general)
Anyone still able to sell 10 of those per day for 1 paysite?

Might be interesting to hear your daily averages.

[Barefootsies]

I am sure there are programs out there doing it.

I would bet the Robbie's of the industry, can get it done fairly easily with their knowledge of traffic, and committed models. A number of celebrity sites can do it fairly easily.

I do decent (stats screen shot) on my new fetish tube hybrid pay site with minimal traffic. Right now averaging 2-4 per day.

But I am also very very nichey, and also have a solid niche traffic network that is spread across all my sites and converts. It is not about volume. It is about filtering down to buying customers.

So, I would bet someone with a good site, in a solid niche, or good promotion and marketing can do it easily. However, in talking to a processor friend at the Miami show. It is not being done on mass any longer by most affiliates.

[Kick Ass Chat]

10+ sales a day is not very hard.

[Chosen]

Originally Posted by GirlsFreePics

10+ sales a day is not very hard.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by GirlsFreePics

10+ sales a day is not very hard.

Yet,.. based on the feedback of many posters on GFY in the past 18 months. Few can do it.

10 sales a day x $29.95 x 30 days = $8995.00 a month ($108,000.00 annual)

[Shoplifter]

Are you kidding? I would think the majority of established paysites are doing at least that. If our average got down to that I would pack it in and get a real job.

[epitome]

I can think of quite a few sites that get way more than 10.

Think of it this way ... if a program has a full-time staff of decent size, they are doing way more than 10 joins per day.

Sure, many of these programs have a handful or more of sites, but they are usually "known" for one or two of their sites and the others just catch sales here and there or are only there to serve as bonus access sites in the first place.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by epitome

I can think of quite a few sites that get way more than 10.

Think of it this way ... if a program has a full-time staff of decent size, they are doing way more than 10 joins per day.

Sure, many of these programs have a handful or more of sites, but they are usually "known" for one or two of their sites and the others just catch sales here and there or are only there to serve as bonus access sites in the first place.

Well said.

Most programs have a few 'flag ship' sites that carry 95% of the weight in their network.

[tonyparra]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I am sure there are programs out there doing it.

I would bet the Robbie's of the industry, can get it done fairly easily with their knowledge of traffic, and committed models. A number of celebrity sites can do it fairly easily.

I do decent (stats screen shot) on my new fetish tube hybrid pay site with minimal traffic. Right now averaging 2-4 per day.

But I am also very very nichey, and also have a solid niche traffic network that is spread across all my sites and converts. It is not about volume. It is about filtering down to buying customers.

So, I would bet someone with a good site, in a solid niche, or good promotion and marketing can do it easily. However, in talking to a processor friend at the Miami show. It is not being done on mass any longer by most affiliates.

i want a tube hybrid how can i get one

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by tonyparra

i want a tube hybrid how can i get one

See da sig.

I am building them for those interested. Some with my foot/tickling content. However, I am also working with other content providers as well who are giving me bulk content to plug in for people wanting less niche, and more mainstream porn, hardcore, solo, handjobs, etc..

Right now in negotiations with Matrix, and GetNaughty for more. I have Simon's whole library as an offering. I am still working on a few more additional to cover the spectrum.

You get you pay site tube hybrid site script set up and configured, my/their content, design, installation and integrated into html/css and set up for you to drive away on your server.

I will have more announcements on deals, and content providers, this week as I get their final content package deals, and examples and proposals for clients to pick from.

ICQ in sig link or profile.

[rayadp05]

True Amateur Models is doing alot more than 10 sales per day. Believe me, 10 sales per day is not hard to accomplish if you know what your doing and are offering content that people really want to see.

[SBJ]

Originally Posted by GirlsFreePics

10+ sales a day is not very hard.

QFT it's not hard at all haha

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by pythonx

Standard 30-day memberships... ($30 - $40 in general)
Anyone still able to sell 10 of those per day for 1 paysite?

Might be interesting to hear your daily averages.

10 a day is easy. Medium/large, large do that in an hour easy.

Duke

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by Shoplifter

Are you kidding? I would think the majority of established paysites are doing at least that. If our average got down to that I would pack it in and get a real job.

Capable of math?
Who would close shop and go find another job that pays over 100k a year? Hell average income for 1 person in the US is barely around 30k. They would need to quit and take up three jobs.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Capable of math?
Who would close shop and go find another job that pays over 100k a year? Hell average income for 1 person in the US is barely around 30k. They would need to quit and take up three jobs.

That was kinda my thought at first...

Back on topic, I would say the vast majority of the adult industry makes $50,000.00 or less. Most are not full time.

You have some whale affiliates, and then program owners/managers, traffic kings, as well as a few other innovators making low, or high 6 figures. Maybe a few millionaires sprinkled in. But for the most part, the vast majority are under $100,000.00 a year to put this industry into perspective.

Unless they are paid in GFY dollars. Then they are living in mansions, driving benzos, and fucking supermodels. They will never post screen shots, or pictures, but you are to assume this is all fact.

As mentioned before, if you own a big program. Yes, 10 joins a day should be easy with all of the affiliates and whales. But I think the O.P. was asking from the affiliate perspective, or that of owning a single flagship type of site.

[BSleazy]

Barefootsies - You smokin crack or what???

There's tons of paysites doing that hourly. If you fucked up your post and meant affiliates, well that's another story

Us affiliates have definitely taken a major hit. Most of us at least. The big paysites are still killing it though.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by BCyber

There's tons of paysites doing that hourly. If you fucked up your post and meant affiliates, well that's another story

Us affiliates have definitely taken a major hit. Most of us at least. The big paysites are still killing it though.

Yes. I felt the O.P. was asking from an affiliate, or single site owner, perspective and answered as such. If that is not what he was asking, sorry about that.

However I thought I clarified that in my previous post 'gander...

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

But I think the O.P. was asking from the affiliate perspective, or that of owning a single flagship type of site.

[Nicky]

I'm going with tootsie here. Many talk the talk in this biz but very few walk the walk. I try not to lie, I make under 10k per month, my fellow old skoolers are laughing at me

[Boobzooka]

I still think we're relatively small-time, but if we ever saw a day with only 10 sales, I would have to assume the apocalypse had arrived.

[Alky]

....................... lol

[NickB.]

I had to install statsremote on my mac to keep track off referral $s - my group of webmasters do amazing numbers

[Semi-Retired-Dave]

A lot more than 10.

[andrej_NDC]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Capable of math?
Who would close shop and go find another job that pays over 100k a year? Hell average income for 1 person in the US is barely around 30k. They would need to quit and take up three jobs.

But those 10 would mean $10k a month gross! Big difference!

Even though with another 10-15 rebills over time, I see what you mean...

[TheDoc]

Within an Affiliate program (of good size) several of the sites (the majority) may not do 10 sales a day.

Most programs have one or two sites that rock it. However, don't discredit those off sites because stacked together, they can easily do 20-100+ sales combined.


Some sites do 10 sales in minutes, 99% of us don't. Just like 99% of the people, can't figure out how to get a paysite over 10 sales a day.

[pythonx]

Yes, was posting from a perspective of owners of a single paysite... Not affiliates or big affiliate program owners

[woj]

Originally Posted by Shoplifter

Are you kidding? I would think the majority of established paysites are doing at least that. If our average got down to that I would pack it in and get a real job.

very true, take out affiliate cut, + take out all the content, design, hosting, programming, etc costs and all of a sudden you are barely making a profit with those 10 sales per day...

[HouseHead]

I can send you that and some change today.. If you would like hit up my right hand man..

icq = 480912

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by pythonx

Yes, was posting from a perspective of owners of a single paysite... Not affiliates or big affiliate program owners

I would say the challenges are just bigger for you but the chances for success are the same. If the site rocks, it has a chance.. if it sucks, it never had a chance.


You could strip the affiliates away from many programs, and find that they produce internal traffic that does produce more than 10 sales a day, many do 100's a day, which is rare of course but does happen more than people think.

Even sites, that never had an affiliate program.

So yes, some of the other sites sites may not do 10 internal a day. But then you have to ask, do those other sites have traffic sources built to match the potential of the sites doing over 10 a day? Probably not...


To answer your question, very much so... 100's if not 1000's of unique paysites laying around, with internal traffic, just search engine traffic, and with affiliate traffic, some odd traffic source we don't know of.... all producing more than 10 sales daily.

But that also means we have probably 10,000's that don't.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Some sites do 10 sales in minutes, 99% of us don't. Just like 99% of the people, can't figure out how to get a paysite over 10 sales a day.

Exactly.

Originally Posted by pythonx

Yes, was posting from a perspective of owners of a single paysite... Not affiliates or big affiliate program owners

Figured as much.

Almost anyone with some common sense would have figured most decent sized affiliate programs do more than 10 sales per day. So, based on the nature of the question, I figured that it must be from the newbie/single pay site perspective by default.

Originally Posted by woj

very true, take out affiliate cut, + take out all the content, design, hosting, programming, etc costs and all of a sudden you are barely making a profit with those 10 sales per day...

True dat.

[pythonx]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I would say the challenges are just bigger for you but the chances for success are the same. If the site rocks, it has a chance.. if it sucks, it never had a chance.


You could strip the affiliates away from many programs, and find that they produce internal traffic that does produce more than 10 sales a day, many do 100's a day, which is rare of course but does happen more than people think.

Even sites, that never had an affiliate program.

So yes, some of the other sites sites may not do 10 internal a day. But then you have to ask, do those other sites have traffic sources built to match the potential of the sites doing over 10 a day? Probably not...


To answer your question, very much so... 100's if not 1000's of unique paysites laying around, with internal traffic, just search engine traffic, and with affiliate traffic, some odd traffic source we don't know of.... all producing more than 10 sales daily.

But that also means we have probably 10,000's that don't.

That's all good and well, but where do you get these numbers from? are you just assuming this is true or are you speaking from own experience? Or are you basing it on what people say in these threads?
Not you, but I think many people are just talking BS to attract affiliates or simply brag.

10 sales per day on a paysite without affiliates is of course possible, but it is pure profit?
10 sales is easy to make if you spend $500 per day on adwords for example... I should have mentioned paid advertising not included... 10 sales from free traffic sources like SE, TGP, blogs, ...

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by pythonx

That's all good and well, but where do you get these numbers from? are you just assuming this is true or are you speaking from own experience? Or are you basing it on what people say in these threads?
Not you, but I think many people are just talking BS to attract affiliates or simply brag.

10 sales per day on a paysite without affiliates is of course possible, but it is pure profit?
10 sales is easy to make if you spend $500 per day on adwords for example... I should have mentioned paid advertising not included... 10 sales from free traffic sources like SE, TGP, blogs, ...

Good follow up.

You should split your question(s) into two parts trying to get more accurate information. While this is a single question, you see what I am getting at...

Is is possible as a single pay site owner in niche/mainstream porn to do 10 sales a day with/out affiliates?

If so, how much is he spending on traffic, link building/buying links, Adwords, advertising, banner spots, etc.?

Can 10 sales per day be done, as a single site owner, with little advertising budget, organic traffic, and no affiliates?

Kinda breaking it down to more realistic numbers. Personally, I think a lot of people would be up shit creek without the affiliates to drive sales to their programs, and I can almost guarantee they would not be hitting 10 sales a day as a lone ranger on a single pay site. Unless they have some super niche, or own traffic network.

[Shoplifter]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Capable of math?
Who would close shop and go find another job that pays over 100k a year? Hell average income for 1 person in the US is barely around 30k. They would need to quit and take up three jobs.

If only it were all profit. We work like dogs these days and it wouldn't take much for me to go find something simpler to do.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by pythonx

That's all good and well, but where do you get these numbers from? are you just assuming this is true or are you speaking from own experience? Or are you basing it on what people say in these threads?
Not you, but I think many people are just talking BS to attract affiliates or simply brag.

10 sales per day on a paysite without affiliates is of course possible, but it is pure profit?
10 sales is easy to make if you spend $500 per day on adwords for example... I should have mentioned paid advertising not included... 10 sales from free traffic sources like SE, TGP, blogs, ...

I have been the owner, managed, maintained, created, sold, etc... several affiliate programs and paysites, my first starting about 14 years ago. Today I work with and help improve ratios/sales numbers for several medium to very large programs.


It comes down to your skills and focus. If you have the skills to build the paysite, to build the free site network, to focus maintain it and expand it... then 10 sales a day won't be hard at all, and the profits will be almost 100%.

It's harder than ever to build today but still extremely possible and happening all the time.

[pythonx]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I have been the owner, managed, maintained, created, sold, etc... several affiliate programs and paysites, my first starting about 14 years ago. Today I work with and help improve ratios/sales numbers for several medium to very large programs.


It comes down to your skills and focus. If you have the skills to build the paysite, to build the free site network, to focus maintain it and expand it... then 10 sales a day won't be hard at all, and the profits will be almost 100%.

It's harder than ever to build today but still extremely possible and happening all the time.

Thanks...
Good to hear

[Wizzo]

There's 1000s of single sites out there that easily do a 10+ a day and of course there's 10s of thousands that don't!

On a related note, those running paysites if you aren't using DirectDebit for your EU traffic you could be leaving at least that many sales a day on the table...

[FrozenJag]

I do around 12 to 14 sales per day as an affiliate.

My new paysite/program im working on I hope to do 10 sales per day within 60 days when combining what I can send myself aswell as affiliate sales.

So I would hope that many many many programs are doing 10 per day, ALOT probably doing 100/day.

btw. I know im not a whale but I try to steadily work upward to bigger things. Ive been at it for 3 years now and finally getting my own program going so im pumped to continue growing as an affiliate and program owner.

The sky is the limit folks, even in this economy and state of porn.

[scottybuzz]

I started a paysite and im not even making a sale a day, but time will tell bitches.