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Old 11-25-2009, 01:36 PM   #1
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Piracy protection service

I know that the members of this board have been harassed by a lot of wanna be armatures that think they can provide a service because they play the guitar hero and know how to download free porn. That's why before I start to spam everyone on the board about our company's business and how we can help each other, I want to go over why we thought there is a need for our service and why people on this board will benefit from becoming our clients!
Do you know what a free porn forum is? It is a type of forum in which bunch of pirates and leecher get together to share content produced by hard working and creative producers for free among people who do not care enough to even learn the name of the cast members or the producer !
Do you know what a tube site is? It is form of business that allows for people to upload whatever content they wish on the site and then profits from people viewing user uploaded contents. and it so happens that, a lot of your content is just lying there in full length and near DVD quality!

How many times have you had a great idea and put a lot of effort creating something awesome and then after putting on the store the sales go down sharply just after a week or two because someone has uploaded all your content on a free forum ? I say many times!
Did you know that there are some free porn forums with over half a million registered users and more than one million links downloaded a month?

Did you know there are over 100 site-rips getting uploaded every month?
Did you know there are threads in forums dedicated to just one porn star with over 700 posts and links to the free and full length movies?
Did you know most of these threads get over 2 million views up to this date and some have gone over 5 million views?
Have you ever wondered how many more customers you could have had if it wasn?t for the piracy? How much more revenue?
With all this said if you consider yourself a professional producer who is extremely proud his/her work wants to keep you?re his/her exclusive. Just visit our company's website and see if we can help you? don't worry about the cost they are dirt cheap! Just have a look at the website and drop an email to our customer service team and one our agents will be with you as soon as possible.
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Old 11-25-2009, 10:49 PM   #2
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This has been done already company wise..You need to do your homework
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Old 11-26-2009, 02:21 AM   #3
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This has been done already company wise..You need to do your homework
Thanks for the reply, we think our services and business structure are much better than what is already available in the market. To be honest there is so much free stuff out there that makes one wonder if there is any company doing this at all or if they are doing their job correctly? But it is a free market and the same way we welcome competition I think other players should embrace this as an opportunity and not a threat. Furthermore if you are using any of these services and are not happy with it, we will be more than happy to discuss migration to our services with you in more details.
Thanks again for caring and replying we really appreciate your input.

PS: If anyone is doubtful about us or our services, we will more than happy to sit down with them and go over the details
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Old 11-27-2009, 05:59 AM   #4
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maybe you can provide some examples of your work, what you have shot down already and so, so potentional buyers know what you can offer have luck man ...
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Old 11-27-2009, 01:31 PM   #5
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maybe you can provide some examples of your work, what you have shot down already and so, so potentional buyers know what you can offer have luck man ...
Thanks for your comment, we have different business model and we don't want to shut down anything! we remove your contents and just chase the pirate and the distribution host to the point that they willingly ban your content from their website, Our work is completely different with other systems. our company is consisted of computer scientists and we try use cyber techniques to track your content on the web and destroy it. We only discuss gory detail of our business with prospective clients and we provide a full money back guarantee.
but thank you very much for your comment, we really appreciate it.
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Old 11-28-2009, 07:09 AM   #6
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Thanks for your comment, we have different business model and we don't want to shut down anything! we remove your contents and just chase the pirate and the distribution host to the point that they willingly ban your content from their website, Our work is completely different with other systems. our company is consisted of computer scientists and we try use cyber techniques to track your content on the web and destroy it. We only discuss gory detail of our business with prospective clients and we provide a full money back guarantee.
but thank you very much for your comment, we really appreciate it.
From what i hear remove your content is releasing a new service that does about 30 times more than what you do. I don't know the details but I will be using it for sure.
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Old 11-28-2009, 11:22 AM   #7
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From what i hear remove your content is releasing a new service that does about 30 times more than what you do. I don't know the details but I will be using it for sure.
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Wow, That is great , We are hoping there are more companies doing all this. In that way we can help the industry to get back on its feet again and stop this wave of piracy that is turning into a hot trend nowadays.
Good luck with new services Duke.
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Not sure about the offered service and professionality

I have recently corresponded with degban and I was near to give them a try but in their contracts is a clause called "Pivotal conditions of contract". This clause constitutes that the contract becomes only effective if the client provides full access to his content. I asked them why I should provide a full access to my content coz I have content lists at my preview page including picture and video pics. Also I have dozens of sample galleries and if I do the dcma notices bymyself and the ordered service is limited to provide the original links of stolen content it makes no sense to give them full access. In the past I suffered some problems coz I gave to a "partner" fullaccess and I explained this to degban.
The answer from degban I would call very non professional "Their contracts are not negotiable and I might sue them due to sending links providing stolen content too late but all doesnt matter anymore coz they decided to delete my profile from their list and wont do business with me."
Sending links too late coz they have no fullaccess to my content???.....Mhh I would say if they wanna download and watch the clients content they will have no time to search for links of stolen content....
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I find access to content clause very reasonable - sample galleries are not enough to get full knowledge of your content and not very convenient to work with.

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You might want to reintroduce your service, because we all know what piracy is (I wish we didn't but we do) and there's no need to eleborate on it this much. Just let us know more details about your services, pricing plans etc. That would get you much more clients than horror stories about piracy - every second topic in the main board is a horror story about piracy lol, and we all know what tubes, torrents and surfer boards are.
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Old 12-21-2009, 07:12 AM   #10
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I find access to content clause very reasonable - sample galleries are not enough to get full knowledge of your content and not very convenient to work with.
Just to clarify for you, the access clause is not put there so we can gain full member access to the website, rather it is a copyright release form. This form does not transfer any copyrights to
us or any other entity, but this release form gives the staff right to view these content. Why is this clause put there you might ask and if it is not about gaining member access why is it put there for? as we are a registered company in UK by logging on to pirate forums and looking through the content we are potentially infringing our clients copyright. By obtiating this right from the client the goveremnt or the ISP will not chase us for infirnging copyright. Furhtermore a lot of ISPs in UK ban use of torrents in order to get permision to use them for anti piracy puropsoes we need this access right. We are a protection company, we first need to protect ourselves so we can protect you.

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You might want to reintroduce your service, because we all know what piracy is (I wish we didn't but we do) and there's no need to eleborate on it this much. Just let us know more details about your services, pricing plans etc. That would get you much more clients than horror stories about piracy - every second topic in the main board is a horror story about piracy lol, and we all know what tubes, torrents and surfer boards are.
We really appreciate your comment, the reason we haven't put much detail about our service on the board is that, the services are tailored to the customers need, even the prices are negotiable we are one of the only companies that publicly advertise the fact that we will give you a discount if you insist upon it! That is because we understand how difficult the industry has become and how hard it is to trust Companies. but to give you a short summery, we harvest something between 500 to 5000 links for a client per day and send between 1000 to 8000 DMCA notices perday for the client, we have a 80% same they removal record meaning the 80% of DMCA sent get removals on the same day the rest of the DMCA turn into removals in less than a week and a small percentage needs more haggling and arguing with the host from our side. What we aim to do is to clear the first 10 pages of Google result for your content and then by monitoring the main hubs keep the content exclusive. Our prices are extremely low and our service is extremely high quality if you are interested I can provide you with some example of our results.ha We have a full refund policy and we will simply pay you back if we couldn't keep our promises!
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Just to clarify for you, the access clause is not put there so we can gain full member access to the website, rather it is a copyright release form. This form does not transfer any copyrights to
us or any other entity, but this release form gives the staff right to view these content. Why is this clause put there you might ask and if it is not about gaining member access why is it put there for? as we are a registered company in UK by logging on to pirate forums and looking through the content we are potentially infringing our clients copyright. By obtiating this right from the client the goveremnt or the ISP will not chase us for infirnging copyright. Furhtermore a lot of ISPs in UK ban use of torrents in order to get permision to use them for anti piracy puropsoes we need this access right. We are a protection company, we first need to protect ourselves so we can protect you.


We really appreciate your comment, the reason we haven't put much detail about our service on the board is that, the services are tailored to the customers need, even the prices are negotiable we are one of the only companies that publicly advertise the fact that we will give you a discount if you insist upon it! That is because we understand how difficult the industry has become and how hard it is to trust Companies. but to give you a short summery, we harvest something between 500 to 5000 links for a client per day and send between 1000 to 8000 DMCA notices perday for the client, we have a 80% same they removal record meaning the 80% of DMCA sent get removals on the same day the rest of the DMCA turn into removals in less than a week and a small percentage needs more haggling and arguing with the host from our side. What we aim to do is to clear the first 10 pages of Google result for your content and then by monitoring the main hubs keep the content exclusive. Our prices are extremely low and our service is extremely high quality if you are interested I can provide you with some example of our results.ha We have a full refund policy and we will simply pay you back if we couldn't keep our promises!

I have asked for a service were just links and the origin of source are being sent to me so called as "Silver Level" at your site. DCMA removal requests and proof of the violation would have been done by me so there is no need to have fullaccess to my site. I know my content best, even the logos are removed I can recognize it.
Also its hard to believe that you send 1000 to 8000 DCMA notices per day and client with content proof in fulllength.
Concerning the problem of infringing my copyrights as client it would be no problem to modify the clause of fullaccess into an anti lawsuit policy.
I really would like to give you a try but just telling me that my "informations and contactdetails were deleted" to due the fact that I dont give you fullaccess isnt the right way.
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I find access to content clause very reasonable - sample galleries are not enough to get full knowledge of your content and not very convenient to work with.

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You might want to reintroduce your service, because we all know what piracy is (I wish we didn't but we do) and there's no need to eleborate on it this much. Just let us know more details about your services, pricing plans etc. That would get you much more clients than horror stories about piracy - every second topic in the main board is a horror story about piracy lol, and we all know what tubes, torrents and surfer boards are.
these guys need lawyers to help them. If you use their services, you could be liable for their notices.
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Dear LickMyBalls

Thank you for raising such an important question, we do not provide direct take down service for US based Companies, We harvest Links for our client and provide it to them so they can contact the Infringing party and solve the issue with them. We are a UK based Technology company and specialize in security and search engines, beyond this we can only provide courtesy notices to the infringing party which is a polite notice informing the infringing party they are possibly hosting copyrighted material asking them to investigate the matter. If you require to be in business with a US based company you have to contact other companies. As a European company we can go after the companies who infringe the rights of our clients in Europe. In that case all the transactions take place in Europe and are governed by European laws to be precise the US laws are void outside US so regardless of the what they mean inside the country they have no meaning outside of it. A good example is illustrated in the conversation between thepiratebay and a representative of a US company, you can read more about it at this links :
http://static.thepiratebay.org/ea_response.txt
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http://static.thepiratebay.org/dreamworks_response.txt
where the contacted person freely insults the representative and explains to them that Europe and US are different places.
Thanks again for your concern please do contact us should you have further inquiries.
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these guys need lawyers to help them. If you use their services, you could be liable for their notices.
There's no liability for notices. If you push your wrong DMCA to court, and loose, you're liable for damages and will have to pay legal fees. But if you don't, you're clean - the other party just files counter DMCA and if you leave it at that, there's no liability.
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Thank you for raising such an important question, we do not provide direct take down service for US based Companies, We harvest Links for our client and provide it to them so they can contact the Infringing party and solve the issue with them. We are a UK based Technology company and specialize in security and search engines, beyond this we can only provide courtesy notices to the infringing party which is a polite notice informing the infringing party they are possibly hosting copyrighted material asking them to investigate the matter. If you require to be in business with a US based company you have to contact other companies. As a European company we can go after the companies who infringe the rights of our clients in Europe. In that case all the transactions take place in Europe and are governed by European laws to be precise the US laws are void outside US so regardless of the what they mean inside the country they have no meaning outside of it. A good example is illustrated in the conversation between thepiratebay and a representative of a US company, you can read more about it at this links :
http://static.thepiratebay.org/ea_response.txt
or here
http://static.thepiratebay.org/dreamworks_response.txt
where the contacted person freely insults the representative and explains to them that Europe and US are different places.
Thanks again for your concern please do contact us should you have further inquiries.
Then why does it say here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...9&postcount=10
but to give you a short summery, we harvest something between 500 to 5000 links for a client per day and send between 1000 to 8000 DMCA notices per day for the client,
So which is it do you send them or not?
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Then why does it say here: http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...9&postcount=10
but to give you a short summery, we harvest something between 500 to 5000 links for a client per day and send between 1000 to 8000 DMCA notices per day for the client,
So which is it do you send them or not?
The notice is sent to the client himself allowing them to use it as template for filing a proper DMCA notice.
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There's no liability for notices. If you push your wrong DMCA to court, and loose, you're liable for damages and will have to pay legal fees. But if you don't, you're clean - the other party just files counter DMCA and if you leave it at that, there's no liability.
not if host is trigger happy and pulls down sites or content. you're liable.
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The notice is sent to the client himself allowing them to use it as template for filing a proper DMCA notice.
That makes no sense.
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not if host is trigger happy and pulls down sites or content. you're liable.
Can you quote DMCA where it says so?

Anyway, it's not like any of the tube/torrent/board uploaders is going to sue you.
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