Petition to Epoch - GoFuckYourself.com

MrDeiz · 11-09-2009, 12:15 PM

Please display into affiliate admin for each EpochStats running program whether it's paying by epoch or by program itself.
Do the same thing as CCBill and Affiliate-Cash when webmasters are able to check that tracking is right (like for this link http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...es.com/ccbill/ we can find pa into join form source)

Supporters please sign below )

Agent 488 · 11-09-2009, 12:18 PM

i don't support this.

DWB · 11-09-2009, 01:17 PM

FUCK EPOCH!

Worst mistake I ever made in my entire 10+ years in this business, was using them.

A bunch of model stalkers over there. Fuck 'em.

richmedia · 11-09-2009, 01:32 PM

My 2 cents about Epoch:
There is pretty entangled situation witrh Epoch payments opposite to the CCBill payments. A lot of checks without program ID, combined checks for EU branch payments and separate checks for US branch. Freaks. There is a totaly useles to compare Epoch payments even with their new interface reports.

sex69 · 11-09-2009, 01:33 PM

I haven't got any experience with them because always avoid the programs that use only epoch for billing.

l0lf4c3 · 11-09-2009, 01:36 PM

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MrDeiz · 11-10-2009, 01:28 AM

so there's no way biz threads will work out in this place

PXN · 11-10-2009, 01:33 AM

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hypedough · 11-10-2009, 01:40 AM

What did I miss about Epoch stalking models? And why boycott sponsors using Epoch? That hurts the program more than Epoch themselves.

CCBill openly told me in 2007 that they will not accept Kayden420.com after already pre-paying for Visa, so I'm one of the affiliate programs stuck with Epoch. I haven't followed up with CCBill about their "420" issue but if there are any reps around with your hahahahahahahahahahahaha on, please help me out. What I don't understand is if CCBill can process for 420girl.com, why can't they process Kayden420.com which doesn't blatantly feature bongs & weed like 420girls does.

Still got my $700 sitting over at CCBill, maybe one day there will be a little more leniency on their part.

MrDeiz · 11-10-2009, 02:18 AM

ccbill also has some problems, but they aren't as big as those ones with epoch.
in these days when programs die fast webmasters can rely on their promises to be paid. it's np that epoch has such option for program owners to choose a way of payout, but webmasters should know which one is set.

and i don't see any problem in bringing that by epoch

Les Grossman · 11-10-2009, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

ccbill also has some problems, but they aren't as big as those ones with epoch.
in these days when programs die fast webmasters can rely on their promises to be paid. it's np that epoch has such option for program owners to choose a way of payout, but webmasters should know which one is set.

and i don't see any problem in bringing that by epoch

No solution is perfect, but CCbill is superior to Epoch in every way. If you use the search feature on boards, it's full of Epoch problems.

Les Grossman · 11-10-2009, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hypedough

What did I miss about Epoch stalking models? And why boycott sponsors using Epoch? That hurts the program more than Epoch themselves.

CCBill openly told me in 2007 that they will not accept Kayden420.com after already pre-paying for Visa, so I'm one of the affiliate programs stuck with Epoch. I haven't followed up with CCBill about their "420" issue but if there are any reps around with your hahahahahahahahahahahaha on, please help me out. What I don't understand is if CCBill can process for 420girl.com, why can't they process Kayden420.com which doesn't blatantly feature bongs & weed like 420girls does.

Still got my $700 sitting over at CCBill, maybe one day there will be a little more leniency on their part.

That is a little silly. Your 420 smokes may not even be real. Even if they are, what does Visa care? I used my Visa card last year in a cafe to buy REAL WEED in Amsterdam. If CCbill is blaming it on Visa, it is bull shit. If you can buy real weed with your Visa, in a known pot cafe, then they won't have a problem processing for a site where it's smoked, or maybe not even be real in the first place. And how does CCbill know or not, if she lives in California, or at least shot the content there, and has a license to legally smoke it?

What's next, not processing for anal sex sites? Hey, it's illegal in some states, so why allow it?

I like CCbill, and believe they are the best solution out there, but sometimes they have their head a little up their own ass.

MrDeiz · 11-10-2009, 08:16 AM

lol
so we have 300+ views and only a few people commented
what are the rest folks doing?

it looks like gfy is not a place for doing biz in this industry anymore. there's no webmasters promoting or running epochstats programs

Pleasurepays · 11-10-2009, 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman

No solution is perfect, but CCbill is superior to Epoch in every way. If you use the search feature on boards, it's full of Epoch problems.

that's very dishonest... if you use the search feature of the board you will see 100X more people complaining about CCbill declines/scrubbing etc than you will find even mentions of epoch.

notoldschool · 11-10-2009, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman

No solution is perfect, but CCbill is superior to Epoch in every way. If you use the search feature on boards, it's full of Epoch problems.

your an idiot. fail at lying.

TheDoc · 11-10-2009, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman

No solution is perfect, but CCbill is superior to Epoch in every way. If you use the search feature on boards, it's full of Epoch problems.

I have 100 billion pounds of gold in my living room too!

MrDeiz · 11-10-2009, 01:16 PM

so are you for those thing i'm asking into petition or not?

RayBonga · 11-10-2009, 01:46 PM

i never promote epoch programs either. i don't like their system

MrDeiz · 11-10-2009, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

that's very dishonest... if you use the search feature of the board you will see 100X more people complaining about CCbill declines/scrubbing etc than you will find even mentions of epoch.

have you seen any screenshots proving your point?
ftvcash posted their for this year and decline ratio is quite ok

just some talked bullshit, nothing more
and btw that's what gfy is all about these days

90% of programs listed at Signbucks Daily don't give a fuck about gfy.

AmeliaG · 11-10-2009, 02:24 PM

ALL revshare EpochStats MPA3 cascades are paid out by Epoch. Supposedly PPS programs may opt to pay direct to affiliates, using the EpochStats MPA3 cascade, but I've actually never seen one. Have you?

MrDeiz · 11-10-2009, 02:27 PM

just wanted to add to my previous message.
i'm not saying that ccbill has no problems. it sure has tons of them, but they are the best billing solution for today (with long list of things to do)

if you'd like to discuss it, then bring some stats to prove that.

Iron Fist · 11-10-2009, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hypedough

CCBill openly told me in 2007 that they will not accept Kayden420.com after already pre-paying for Visa

I'd promote you more if you got accepted at CCBill... simple as that.... when SpookyCash went to Epoch my sales disappeared. If I hadn't already basically dedicated an entire site to their galleries (they used to be on CCBILL which is why I did it), i'd have removed them long ago. Epoch from my point of view - sucks.

JFK · 11-10-2009, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I have 100 billion pounds of gold in my living room too!

can I have a couple of hundred measly kilos ?

MrDeiz · 11-10-2009, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

ALL revshare EpochStats MPA3 cascades are paid out by Epoch. Supposedly PPS programs may opt to pay direct to affiliates, using the EpochStats MPA3 cascade, but I've actually never seen one. Have you?

how sure are you about rs part?
yes i have seen a few of them. can't remind any right now. they are offering like $20-25 pps

Agent 488 · 11-10-2009, 02:46 PM

daizzzy is one of the biggest idiots on gfy.

listening to him talk about processing is like listening to the retard cleaning the toilets at burger king talk about string theory.

AmeliaG · 11-10-2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead

I'd promote you more if you got accepted at CCBill... simple as that.... when SpookyCash went to Epoch my sales disappeared. If I hadn't already basically dedicated an entire site to their galleries (they used to be on CCBILL which is why I did it), i'd have removed them long ago. Epoch from my point of view - sucks.

I have some thoughts on how you specifically could improve your sales with the current SpookyCash Epoch program, but I'll only post them on GFY if you say it is okay. I wish you would hit me up via ICQ to chat about this, as I've invited you in the past.

I wish someone could explain to me what they think the difference between CCBill and Epoch is, from an affiliate's perspective. They both process billing and any good program is going to have their own tools pages and not rely on those the biller provides. So what is the difference?

That all said, I expect to be launching a CCBill ALTERNATIVE OPTION for SpookyCash affiliates. Anyone who does not wish to use Epoch as their affiliate interface any more will need to sign up to the new system when it launches. Anyone who is happy with the current Epoch affiliate system will just leave everything the same.

AmeliaG · 11-10-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

how sure are you about rs part?
yes i have seen a few of them. can't remind any right now. they are offering like $20-25 pps

Pretty high level people at Epoch have sworn to me, on a stack of bibles, that the only way I could pay affiliates directly would be to do PPS, instead of revshare. It used to really frustrate me with CCBill that some of my top affiliates seemed to have zero idea how much of their weekly CCBill wires were SpookyCash sales, so I thought it would be better to cut checks directly, so affiliates would be more aware that SpookyCash was selling for them. I thought I would be able to facilitate this with the Epoch migration, but they told me that feature was only for PPS.

MrDeiz · 11-10-2009, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Pretty high level people at Epoch have sworn to me, on a stack of bibles, that the only way I could pay affiliates directly would be to do PPS, instead of revshare. It used to really frustrate me with CCBill that some of my top affiliates seemed to have zero idea how much of their weekly CCBill wires were SpookyCash sales, so I thought it would be better to cut checks directly, so affiliates would be more aware that SpookyCash was selling for them. I thought I would be able to facilitate this with the Epoch migration, but they told me that feature was only for PPS.

strange that Rand from Epoch didn't tell me about that when i was asking to bring me that info if i'll send them a list of epoch stats programs we got
sent him that question

AmeliaG · 11-10-2009, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

strange that Rand from Epoch didn't tell me about that when i was asking to bring me that info if i'll send them a list of epoch stats programs we got
sent him that question

Please definitely post the info you get on that here or please hit me up on ICQ. I am very interested to hear what they say on this, as what I was told by Epoch was pretty unequivocal.

MrDeiz · 11-10-2009, 03:34 PM

i definitely will )

Pleasurepays · 11-10-2009, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

just wanted to add to my previous message.
i'm not saying that ccbill has no problems. it sure has tons of them, but they are the best billing solution for today (with long list of things to do)

if you'd like to discuss it, then bring some stats to prove that.

First, i've sent Epoch many many millions of dollars in sales and never had a single issue with them. Just as i'm sure many have done the same with CCBill.

I'm not attacking CCbill and I don't currently use Epoch for anything. Just stating a simple fact... that when you search the history of this board in particular, to compare webmaster issues/complaints between the two.. there is simply no comparison, CCbill wins that contest hands down, for whatever reasons.

MrDeiz · 11-10-2009, 03:41 PM

so that's what i was told

Quote:

Programs may pay on their own at their option no matter what.

MrDeiz · 11-10-2009, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

First, i've sent Epoch many many millions of dollars in sales and never had a single issue with them. Just as i'm sure many have done the same with CCBill.

I'm not attacking CCbill and I don't currently use Epoch for anything. Just stating a simple fact. But when you search the history of this board in particular to compare issues/complaints between the two.. there is simply no comparison.

it took us almost a year to list ccbill and it'll take like 2 or 3 moths to list Epoch (if we'll do this). so the scale is a little bit different here

AmeliaG · 11-10-2009, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

so that's what i was told

By Rand over at Epoch just now?

2MuchMark · 11-10-2009, 04:43 PM

I'll take a wild guess and say that CCBill is a big company and they do everything legally as to avoid big, expensiv problems, which is why they don't processor illegal items such as WEED or WEED Content or WEEDish things. Come on, just because a company can't or won't process for anyone is no reason to trash them.

As for Epoch, I have read some of the problems people say they are having, but it looks like most of them are POLICY issues and not much else. Again, any company can choose who they want to work with, for their own reasons. Anthony from Epoch is the coolest guy and their product and service is solid. If anyone hit any road blocks to using Epoch, there are other billers out there. No reason to hate them.

Agent 488 · 11-10-2009, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

I'll take a wild guess and say that CCBill is a big company and they do everything legally as to avoid big, expensiv problems, which is why they don't processor illegal items such as WEED or WEED Content or WEEDish things. Come on, just because a company can't or won't process for anyone is no reason to trash them.

they do. 420girls.com

pls read.

alias · 11-10-2009, 05:15 PM

Lrn 2 read

MrDeiz · 11-11-2009, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

By Rand over at Epoch just now?

yes
he answered me

Quote:

Programs on the old Epoch reporting system may have Epoch pay on Rev-share, but programs on EpochStats can have Epoch pay affiliates for either Rev-Share or PPS.

first then i specified it and got that reply

Quote:

Programs may pay on their own at their option no matter what.

MrDeiz · 11-11-2009, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

As for Epoch, I have read some of the problems people say they are having, but it looks like most of them are POLICY issues and not much else. Again, any company can choose who they want to work with, for their own reasons. Anthony from Epoch is the coolest guy and their product and service is solid. If anyone hit any road blocks to using Epoch, there are other billers out there. No reason to hate them.

Why he isn't joining this thread?

MrDeiz · 11-12-2009, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

that's very dishonest... if you use the search feature of the board you will see 100X more people complaining about CCbill declines/scrubbing etc than you will find even mentions of epoch.

just another one ccbill program's decline statistics. nothing extraordinary
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...&postcount=115

Quote:

Hmm... I just ran a report for the year, and total count for declines was 12.57% on ccbill. That is both declined new signups and declined re-bills together. Seems like a low enough number. But, you got my curiosity up so I went on...

The exact period last year (2008) was 11.78%
2007 10.91%
2006 11.06%
2005 11.04%
2004 12.20%
2003 10.22%
2002 3.13% (The year I started with ccbill) had Ibill as my main at the time...

Then I combined all those years together... for an average decline rate of 10.68%

Now, while having the $121,891.70 Of added income lost from the declines would have been great The numbers do look pretty constant. All this is on my ONE site. giving me an pretty good view of history over the last 8 years billing with Ccbill.

I've been burned by Ibill, Paymode Myvirtualcard. Lets say for the sake of argument that at the time they where around their decline rate WAS lower... Add on what they took from me in the end and what do you think lost income % really was?

I'll stick with Ccbill.

AmeliaG · 11-18-2009, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

yes
he answered me

first then i specified it and got that reply

Are you like 100% positive? I run an Epoch program and, when I sent them this thread, Rand didn't even seem to get the question.

MrDeiz · 11-19-2009, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

Are you like 100% positive? I run an Epoch program and, when I sent them this thread, Rand didn't even seem to get the question.

are we talking about the same Rand?
i was icqing with him via 207.066.243

so what exactly he's denying?

V_RocKs · 11-19-2009, 03:04 AM

Personally I prefer to aggregate the payments of all of the sponsors I promote via EPOCH and CCBILL. I always hit the minimum with whom ever I promote ;)

sortie · 11-19-2009, 10:10 AM

Blah Blah Blah.............

Because unlike some other billing companies,

They Still Exist

In this current state of affairs existing if 98% of the battle.

Kimmykim · 11-19-2009, 12:25 PM

Sounds to me like there is some confusion in this thread, regarding what people are asking about and what the replies seem to be. Epoch, as well as CCBill, have been around since the inception of the industry and while no processor is 100% issue free, they wouldn't have survived if they were not doing a good job for their clients.

Perhaps solidifying the questions into a list and then asking Rand to take a look at them would be a better idea than going back and forth about what he replied to this and that.

pornpf69 · 11-19-2009, 12:41 PM

the simple fact that if a program uses EPOCH or EPOCH EU and EPOCH is making the payments and you will need to reach the minimum on EPOCH AND EPOCH EU already cut me off... why can't they aggregate the payments if the stats are all in the same area? why don't they tell the affiliates that are joining that the program is EPOCH or EPOCH EU if they do separate payments?!

MrDeiz · 11-19-2009, 01:53 PM

2 pornpf69
not only Epoch and Epoch Eu have separate payments, but also es running programs have an option to pay on its own, that's the main issue
webmasters rely on epoch, but not as much on epoch programs paying on its own

is there something wrong in what i'm asking that nobody seems to be going to support that?

MrDeiz · 11-19-2009, 01:58 PM

that's completely irrelevant to that point i've made

Quote:

Originally Posted by sortie

Blah Blah Blah.............

Because unlike some other billing companies,

They Still Exist

In this current state of affairs existing if 98% of the battle.

katharos · 11-19-2009, 02:24 PM

Kimmykim · 11-19-2009, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daizzzy

2 pornpf69
not only Epoch and Epoch Eu have separate payments, but also es running programs have an option to pay on its own, that's the main issue
webmasters rely on epoch, but not as much on epoch programs paying on its own

is there something wrong in what i'm asking that nobody seems to be going to support that?

I'm not entirely sure that anyone is really able to figure out what you are asking, much less decide how to answer.

11-09-2009, 12:15 PM	#1
MrDeiz SignBucksDaily.com Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9,802	Petition to Epoch Please display into affiliate admin for each EpochStats running program whether it's paying by epoch or by program itself. Do the same thing as CCBill and Affiliate-Cash when webmasters are able to check that tracking is right (like for this link http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...es.com/ccbill/ we can find pa into join form source) Supporters please sign below ) __________________ Make money with WEBC$MS The only way to still make money in adult

11-09-2009, 01:32 PM	#4
richmedia Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 383	My 2 cents about Epoch: There is pretty entangled situation witrh Epoch payments opposite to the CCBill payments. A lot of checks without program ID, combined checks for EU branch payments and separate checks for US branch. Freaks. There is a totaly useles to compare Epoch payments even with their new interface reports. __________________ Anti-AdBlock Solution, eCPM real-time optimization, Pops - Banners - In-App HilltopAds.com

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sex69 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 671	I haven't got any experience with them because always avoid the programs that use only epoch for billing. __________________ HotNiches.com-Add Site Porn Sites- Submit For Adult Sites-Add URL Adult Webcams Sex Webcams Erotic Search Reality Sex Sex Videos Last edited by sex69; 11-09-2009 at 01:35 PM..

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MrDeiz SignBucksDaily.com Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9,802	so there's no way biz threads will work out in this place __________________ Make money with WEBC$MS The only way to still make money in adult

11-10-2009, 01:40 AM	#9
hypedough Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Now running NATS4: HypeDough.com! Posts: 3,743	What did I miss about Epoch stalking models? And why boycott sponsors using Epoch? That hurts the program more than Epoch themselves. CCBill openly told me in 2007 that they will not accept Kayden420.com after already pre-paying for Visa, so I'm one of the affiliate programs stuck with Epoch. I haven't followed up with CCBill about their "420" issue but if there are any reps around with your hahahahahahahahahahahaha on, please help me out. What I don't understand is if CCBill can process for 420girl.com, why can't they process Kayden420.com which doesn't blatantly feature bongs & weed like 420girls does. Still got my $700 sitting over at CCBill, maybe one day there will be a little more leniency on their part. __________________ Ricky D :: Hype Dough President \| XBIZ.net \| ICQ 172-939-826 AIM+Skype HypeDough \| [NATS4] Kayden420: ['09 '10 '11 XBIZ Nominee \| Exclusive & HD] \| ThePornScout: [Exclusive + Reality \| Amateurs Want to Become Pornstars]

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DWB Giggity Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: S.E. Asia Posts: 31,779	FUCK EPOCH! Worst mistake I ever made in my entire 10+ years in this business, was using them. A bunch of model stalkers over there. Fuck 'em.

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MrDeiz SignBucksDaily.com Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9,802	ccbill also has some problems, but they aren't as big as those ones with epoch. in these days when programs die fast webmasters can rely on their promises to be paid. it's np that epoch has such option for program owners to choose a way of payout, but webmasters should know which one is set. and i don't see any problem in bringing that by epoch __________________ Make money with WEBC$MS The only way to still make money in adult

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MrDeiz SignBucksDaily.com Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9,802	lol so we have 300+ views and only a few people commented what are the rest folks doing? it looks like gfy is not a place for doing biz in this industry anymore. there's no webmasters promoting or running epochstats programs __________________ Make money with WEBC$MS The only way to still make money in adult

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MrDeiz SignBucksDaily.com Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9,802	just wanted to add to my previous message. i'm not saying that ccbill has no problems. it sure has tons of them, but they are the best billing solution for today (with long list of things to do) if you'd like to discuss it, then bring some stats to prove that. __________________ Make money with WEBC$MS The only way to still make money in adult

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Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,016	Sounds to me like there is some confusion in this thread, regarding what people are asking about and what the replies seem to be. Epoch, as well as CCBill, have been around since the inception of the industry and while no processor is 100% issue free, they wouldn't have survived if they were not doing a good job for their clients. Perhaps solidifying the questions into a list and then asking Rand to take a look at them would be a better idea than going back and forth about what he replied to this and that.

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pornpf69 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Brasil Posts: 15,778	the simple fact that if a program uses EPOCH or EPOCH EU and EPOCH is making the payments and you will need to reach the minimum on EPOCH AND EPOCH EU already cut me off... why can't they aggregate the payments if the stats are all in the same area? why don't they tell the affiliates that are joining that the program is EPOCH or EPOCH EU if they do separate payments?! __________________ Do you need cheap, fast and reliable porn website hosting? Host Head is the way to go!! Asian Gay Special \| Live on MSN - Live Webcam Chat \| Live Adult Webcam Performances \| MY SWEET BLACKS LIVE ON CAM Cash X \| OK Pay \| Pukka Ropes \| Pukka Fetish \| STRAPED BLOG \| Male Bound and Fucked Pukka Tranny \| Tattooed Shemales \| She's A He \| Menu Porno \| Porn Performances \| All Chubby MY ICQ# 169833797

11-19-2009, 01:53 PM	#47
MrDeiz SignBucksDaily.com Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 9,802	2 pornpf69 not only Epoch and Epoch Eu have separate payments, but also es running programs have an option to pay on its own, that's the main issue webmasters rely on epoch, but not as much on epoch programs paying on its own is there something wrong in what i'm asking that nobody seems to be going to support that? __________________ Make money with WEBC$MS The only way to still make money in adult Last edited by MrDeiz; 11-19-2009 at 01:56 PM..

11-19-2009, 02:24 PM	#49
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