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xxweekxx · 12-17-2009, 12:03 AM

couple swingers yes, not single females.. try messaging some "females"

bdld · 12-17-2009, 12:11 AM

the idea is okay, TCG has a site 'secrets to getting laid' which is the same concept. the design / text / videos is what needs a lot of work. keep at it and it can be successful.

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Good luck Scott!

I see you have lots of wise and experienced people there behind you. That's important, both for support and for feedback.

Some observations I made which might help improve the site are:

? Correct spelling errors here and there.

? Perhaps a better light balance could be applied to the photos (or put them on a colored background, instead of a stark white background, so that the difference from girl-to-girl won't be as obvious).

? I would suggest a different logo (or at least eliminate the dot on the top of the logo).

My suggestion would be to use an animated gif of a traffic signal with the green light blinking YES, and have surfers click on the Yes signal to enter the site.

? Place some type of video on the first page after people click inside (an introductory video for example, such as a girl saying, "Hey guys, welcome to Yes Signals, where you are not only going to be entertained by hot, sexy girls, but as a bonus you are also going to learn the techniques which will help you increase your chances of getting that hot chick that you've had your eyes on..."

? Put a general warning on the landing page that it is an adult site (not simply another typical pick-up" site).

Until I opened a video, I didn't realize that it was going to have hardcore content (and that was my 5th or 6th random click - you need to hook the surfer faster than that, or they may surf away).

* Since there is hardcore content inside (I viewed a few videos), you need to get those 2257 disclaimers up (yes, even though you are Canadian, lol).

These aren't criticisms per se, so please don't take my comments the wrong way.

It's always good to get unbiased feedback.

Anyway, I see lots of marketing potential there.

Again, good luck...

ADG

? I would suggest a different logo (or at least eliminate the dot on the top of the logo).

- i think the dot is on your computer screen LOL

? Put a general warning on the landing page that it is an adult site (not simply another typical pick-up" site).

good idea

* Since there is hardcore content inside (I viewed a few videos), you need to get those 2257 disclaimers up (yes, even though you are Canadian, lol).

- it's on every page inside - look at bottom of page

and I LIKE my spelling mistakes LOl - yes i'm slowly getting to them all.......

thanks for the comments

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bdld

the idea is okay, TCG has a site 'secrets to getting laid' which is the same concept. the design / text / videos is what needs a lot of work. keep at it and it can be successful.

url? never heard of it - interested in looking at it

ronin · 12-17-2009, 12:25 AM

best of luck with that.

Slappin Fish · 12-17-2009, 12:45 AM

Like others I like the concept, the execution not so much.

The main hook here is that these girls will be offering advice AND fucking.

Unfortunately the fucking part might be obvious to you since it is your concept but putting myself in a surfer's shoes I don't see it. If I hadn't read it here first I would think the members area contains a few youtube type vids. Without turning it in a full fledged porn site (that would defeat the purpose) I think you need to add some sexyness and explaining.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 12-17-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

? I would suggest a different logo (or at least eliminate the dot on the top of the logo).

- i think the dot is on your computer screen LOL

Here is what I am seeing - dot is in the top left corner (I still like my idea for a logo better, but I understand that it is a subjective thing, and it's your site, so do what you want to do with it):

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

? Put a general warning on the landing page that it is an adult site (not simply another typical pick-up" site).

good idea

Thanks...

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

? Since there is hardcore content inside (I viewed a few videos), you need to get those 2257 disclaimers up (yes, even though you are Canadian, lol).

- it's on every page inside - look at bottom of page

See it now, however it's not on the initial landing/splash page (plus PO Boxes don't count).

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

and I LIKE my spelling mistakes LOl - yes i'm slowly getting to them all.......

thanks for the comments

No prob...

It's not easy these days, but I wish you success!

ADG

bdld · 12-17-2009, 12:51 AM

its http://www.secretstogetlaid.com/ but it seems to be down at the moment

XPays · 12-17-2009, 12:53 AM

good luck with your new site

Matyko · 12-17-2009, 12:57 AM

-=- Bump for Sleazy -=-

Playboy-Deak · 12-17-2009, 12:59 AM

Hhm, Soooooo theirs gonna be porn in the members area right? Man Im on this site right now... And I don't understand it. I'm clicking all over the place... I'll give this site a 2/10

DVTimes · 12-17-2009, 01:11 AM

looks great

http://www.clownx.com/?p=3879

Emma · 12-17-2009, 02:05 AM

stupid site, so people be aware from Sleazy's shaving

Agent 488 · 12-17-2009, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Emma

stupid site, so people be aware from Sleazy's shaving

from his avatar looks like he quit shaving.

Fredde · 12-17-2009, 02:40 AM

Good luck!

grumpy · 12-17-2009, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

dude - i owned a bar. 99% of men are CLUELESS

and the same 99% THINK they know.....

ask ANY woman

and now you are gonna enlight them ...woaaoowww classic

Max_PuZcash · 12-17-2009, 02:51 AM

It's not what I expected (thought you'd have something tube like) but really looks interesting!

bns666 · 12-17-2009, 04:27 AM

so much hype over this?

Arnox · 12-17-2009, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Here is what I am seeing - dot is in the top left corner (I still like my idea for a logo better, but I understand that it is a subjective thing, and it's your site, so do what you want to do with it):

ADG

That's lens flare. It's a type of photoshop whatsamijig to simulate the real thing.

Iron Fist · 12-17-2009, 05:00 AM

Signed up and throwing up a couple links on my higher traffic sites... see if we make a few sales off this.... i'll give you 30 days.

Nicky · 12-17-2009, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead

Signed up and throwing up a couple links on my higher traffic sites... see if we make a few sales off this.... i'll give you 30 days.

Might want to wait untill he get's VISA approved?

Thurbs · 12-17-2009, 05:49 AM

i think the design needs to get more fresh, maybe a bit of web 2.0 look with some punch ups of classic porn sales styling.

the buttons, nav areas, labels of signals, and header area all give me the feeling of old, including the type facing. get some css text and proper sizing for making what you want people to read, well pleasant to read.

also that line about no virgins, all models fucked, needs to go up top with some more suggestion, or even small semi-opaque caps from the hardcore.

interest starts at the top of the page.

oh, and if your teaching the how to pick up on the signals and execute,

Then perhaps "Women use body language to flirt and to seduce men." --> "Women use body langauge to flirt and get a response, learn how to read them, learn how to use them, learn how to close them"

Glenn Beck · 12-17-2009, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Needs more bevel and embossing

slapass · 12-17-2009, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bdld

its http://www.secretstogetlaid.com/ but it seems to be down at the moment

I am pretty sure Topbucks had one a few years ago too but i looked and it is no more.

Fletch XXX · 12-17-2009, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

FletchXXX - you are amazing.

thanks Slaezy, always a pleasure working with you.

I worked with you on the design, banners, ads etc... the whole package! Cheers to your launch

Les Grossman · 12-17-2009, 07:24 AM

Great idea Sleazy.

Suggestion: Make it more Web 2.0. This sort of site would work great like that.

Good luck fella.

tranza · 12-17-2009, 08:28 AM

Good luck with that

Bryan G · 12-17-2009, 08:41 AM

Pretty cool idea, I like this. Might be a good fit for one of our members areas as an upsell. Only comment I have is the design could use some work. Other than that its great

I will be in touch

will76 · 12-17-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

wow - yesterday I was 12,500,000 on alexa

today i'm 7,891,989

things are looking up!!!!

lol I can take a site that I am the only one working on it and move it from a 12,500,000 alexa ranking to 1,500,000 just from me having the alexa tool bar installed on my browser.

This is why I don't think it is good to hype stuff, the expectations usually fall short. Especially when the design and photo cut outs look 90's ish.

I do wish you luck, don't mean to be insulting, just expected more. You might get some people here to sympothy promote, but I don't see this going over well with surfers. What are they signing up to see? more cut out girls ? just pictures? full length videos are all over the place for free and you want a surfer to join for some cut out pictures ? If they signing up for advice on how to pick up girls, 1. they don't know who you are so why would they want advice from you? 2. there is tons of blogs and other free info out there they can read up on.

If you want some more constructive criticism let me know I will look over it more.

Also, If I were you I would promote it myself with my own traffic and tweak things, make it convert better, before trying to get affiliates to a site.

I know you will likely take all of that the wrong way and see it as an attack, people never want to hear bad things about something they are excited about.... but it wasn't meant to be mean.

If i am missing something or not getting what the site is about, then it needs to be more clear. I looked over it for about 2 minutes, about 1 minute longer than most people will.

CaptainHowdy · 12-17-2009, 10:20 AM

You sure redefined the word "hype"... congrats on the launch tough!

ahoy · 12-17-2009, 10:27 AM

Just got done browsing 100s of PORN videos on tube8. I think I am ready to hit the bars now and use my new pick up skillllz

BradM · 12-17-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

it doesn't spark interest. merely confuses. no one is going to come back to figure it out.

sorry no bro review here, just truth.

I agree. I really don't get it at all.

It's a bunch of stock image women looking at a camera in a different pose. I really really don't get what the hell this site is and frankly I'm not going to bother figuring it out. I just closed it.

PS entrance page sucks, put a pic of a female and take off the dictionary definition

will76 · 12-17-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i've met and fucked more than a chick or two - I'd done dozens and dozens from AFF.

but it's as a swinger swapping with my GF

not sure how the single side works but for swingers on AFF- my experience is that the VAST majority are REAL profiles - like 90% plus and the other 10% are just idiots fucking around.

night and day.... thanks for adding the rest of the info to your claims that you fucked dozens of girls off of AFF... as a single guy I doubt that you could even find and talk to dozens of REAL girls. If you have a GF that you throw into the mix, yeah it will help you get laid 100000x better than if you were just another single dude.

So if you don't know how the single side works, then why start a site trying to give advice to single guys and charging them for it ?

Cyber Fucker · 12-17-2009, 10:42 AM

Good luck man!

lazycash · 12-17-2009, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BradM

I agree. I really don't get it at all.

It's a bunch of stock image women looking at a camera in a different pose. I really really don't get what the hell this site is and frankly I'm not going to bother figuring it out. I just closed it.

PS entrance page sucks, put a pic of a female and take off the dictionary definition

Had the same experience.

lazycash · 12-17-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by slapass

I am pretty sure Topbucks had one a few years ago too but i looked and it is no more.

Yeah, there's been at least a half dozen adult sites with this same concept come out, all with limited to no success. Not sure why he thinks he's somehow the first on the scene now.

RAM · 12-17-2009, 10:55 AM

Right on Sleazy !!! Looks good and forsure you will make it work

will76 · 12-17-2009, 10:58 AM

Ok I just watched a little more... giving you the benefit of the doubt that I missed something the first time. I watched a "suduction video"... so you took an average, very obvious porn video where the models are paid, and point out things she is doing to try to seduce the guy???

The idea has some potential... but if you seriously wanted to execute it you would need to shoot your own content not use stock porn vids. My suggestion on how to do the concept right would be to shoot your on vids in bars or just out in public, even if they are staged make them have the appearence of being real. Make it more like a video how to, have a guy go up to the girl and strike out doing something wrong, then give "your advice" have he go back at her and show him being successful. Make it part comedy by showing them what not to do as much as you show them what to do.

Take it a step further and make it educational. With your own clips you can get a model to get naked and first point out all the different parts of her body naked, what she likes to have done to her, how to do it, etc... The proper way to eat pussy, the wrong way.... etc... you can mix in the porn here. Get people to submit their own videos, if your videos are real good/funny it could go viral which is your best chance at traffic.

The way you have it now, it's not clear what you are selling. I don't think many people would come back if they even understood it. It's not relivent. pointing out what a chick is doing on a porn video that she is paid to do does not = to showing single guys the right way to pick up girls

You would need to basically start over, and with a MUCH bigger budget, shoot your owncontent and make the site look more like 2010 not 1996. Since you are on a budget try to partner with a content shooter who would be willing to do most of the work (not sure what you would have to offer other than some traffic).

Try to put your ego a side and read what I posted, if it helps pretend that one of your bros posted it and not me. I know you see my name you already think... idiot.. he is trying to troll.... etc... i'm giving you very good, free advice.

Or if you like I could just say...

" WOW looks great, you will make millions" like a lot of your bros here. But who is really helping you, me or them ?

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 11:05 AM

i love how the trolls that never made any money don't have a clue....

webgurl · 12-17-2009, 11:06 AM

I would be interested in finding out the results for this site .
One thing that i would suggest , instead of using pornstars / European models
on the tour. I think it would look alot better if you just shot exclusive real amateur content for this site ,
you can get really hot looking girls - exclusive - cheap content for this since it is non-nude and it's just photos
even if you were going to shoot a few videos as well it shouldn't cost much .

Agent 488 · 12-17-2009, 11:10 AM

must be hard to be a misunderstood genius.

ganjaman · 12-17-2009, 11:12 AM

good idea man ... but better it will be with some unique girls or content

i dont think you have unique content ... ? wish you best with the site man!

Ross · 12-17-2009, 11:12 AM

Good luck with it Sleazy, I think it's going to do very well for you.

BradM · 12-17-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SleazyDream

i love how the trolls that never made any money don't have a clue....

I make 5 figs a month (ya not massive but whatever), and my feedback was constructive. I suggest reading it. I am a surfer coming in with no idea what the site was supposed to be and left the same way.

I am not malicious, I am actually giving you feedback.

_Richard_ · 12-17-2009, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Good luck Scott!

I see you have lots of wise and experienced people there behind you. That's important, both for support and for feedback.

Some observations I made which might help improve the site are:

? Correct spelling errors here and there.

? Perhaps a better light balance could be applied to the photos (or put them on a colored background, instead of a stark white background, so that the difference from girl-to-girl won't be as obvious).

? I would suggest a different logo (or at least eliminate the dot on the top of the logo).

My suggestion would be to use an animated gif of a traffic signal with the green light blinking YES, and have surfers click on the Yes signal to enter the site.

? Place some type of video on the first page after people click inside (an introductory video for example, such as a girl saying, "Hey guys, welcome to Yes Signals, where you are not only going to be entertained by hot, sexy girls, but as a bonus you are also going to learn the techniques which will help you increase your chances of getting that hot chick that you've had your eyes on..."

? Put a general warning on the landing page that it is an adult site (not simply another typical pick-up" site).

Until I opened a video, I didn't realize that it was going to have hardcore content (and that was my 5th or 6th random click - you need to hook the surfer faster than that, or they may surf away).

* Since there is hardcore content inside (I viewed a few videos), you need to get those 2257 disclaimers up (yes, even though you are Canadian, lol).

These aren't criticisms per se, so please don't take my comments the wrong way.

It's always good to get unbiased feedback.

Anyway, I see lots of marketing potential there.

Again, good luck...

ADG

i agree with these points..

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

must be hard to be a misunderstood genius.

yep

pocketkangaroo · 12-17-2009, 11:22 AM

Am I the only one who has no idea what this site is offering?

SleazyDream · 12-17-2009, 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webgurl

I would be interested in finding out the results for this site .
One thing that i would suggest , instead of using pornstars / European models
on the tour. I think it would look alot better if you just shot exclusive real amateur content for this site ,
you can get really hot looking girls - exclusive - cheap content for this since it is non-nude and it's just photos
even if you were going to shoot a few videos as well it shouldn't cost much .

that will come and i plan on doing that..... remember I'm currently bankrupt

dyna mo · 12-17-2009, 11:25 AM

sleazy, good luck!

don't forget- you can upsell furry hats.

Choker · 12-17-2009, 11:26 AM

I actually couldn't go to sleep last night thinking about this. I hate to see anyone fail at something they put their heart into. I have failed so many times on wild projects I thought was great but in reality they were dumb as fuck. Scott, drop your ego and listen to these people. All the bros you talked to when you were developing this did you a diservice by not telling you the truth about this idea. Scott scrap this project now, don't throw good money after bad man. I failed twice at trying to make paysites, but nobody knew cause I didn't tell anyone in case they did fail, which sure enough they did. Here you have incredibly smart paysite owners who have made millions over the years closing down shop, they know paysites front and back and they are failing. Do what you know works man. Make some legal tube sites, something that others are doing right now that's working. Please man

I failed just as big as you did at a off line business. I had this crazy idea to buy tons of cheap silver jewelry, rent out rooms in antique stores and sell it. Great idea as the antique stores would sell it for me, take 10% then I just restock the rooms. I can't tell you how many hours of labor me, my wife, and my daughters put into this. I think I invested close to 200k into this. Display cases, display things for rings necklaces etc I have so much shit in my garage from this it's not even funny. About 150k was invested into the jewelry itself. Well as soon as I had 3 rooms set up guess what happened? Economy went to shit. Right now as I post this my daughter is sorting the jewelry so we can knock out the valuable stones and take 150k of silver jewelry to a smelter where I'll be lucky to get 40k for the sliver itself after they melt it all.

As others have said prove me wrong man, I wished you could but in my opinion no matter how you skin this cat it's not gonna pur, ever. Scrap it now, cut your losses and go on with your life man.

12-17-2009, 12:03 AM	#101
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12-17-2009, 12:45 AM	#106
Slappin Fish Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Thailand Posts: 2,512	Like others I like the concept, the execution not so much. The main hook here is that these girls will be offering advice AND fucking. Unfortunately the fucking part might be obvious to you since it is your concept but putting myself in a surfer's shoes I don't see it. If I hadn't read it here first I would think the members area contains a few youtube type vids. Without turning it in a full fledged porn site (that would defeat the purpose) I think you need to add some sexyness and explaining. Last edited by Slappin Fish; 12-17-2009 at 12:46 AM..

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12-17-2009, 12:11 AM	#102
bdld $100,000 Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 11,452	the idea is okay, TCG has a site 'secrets to getting laid' which is the same concept. the design / text / videos is what needs a lot of work. keep at it and it can be successful.

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12-17-2009, 12:51 AM	#108
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12-17-2009, 05:49 AM	#122
Thurbs The Thrilla in Manila Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Thurbs' Lagoon, Christmas Island Posts: 4,785	i think the design needs to get more fresh, maybe a bit of web 2.0 look with some punch ups of classic porn sales styling. the buttons, nav areas, labels of signals, and header area all give me the feeling of old, including the type facing. get some css text and proper sizing for making what you want people to read, well pleasant to read. also that line about no virgins, all models fucked, needs to go up top with some more suggestion, or even small semi-opaque caps from the hardcore. interest starts at the top of the page. oh, and if your teaching the how to pick up on the signals and execute, Then perhaps "Women use body language to flirt and to seduce men." --> "Women use body langauge to flirt and get a response, learn how to read them, learn how to use them, learn how to close them" Last edited by Thurbs; 12-17-2009 at 05:51 AM..

12-17-2009, 07:24 AM	#126
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12-17-2009, 08:41 AM	#128
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12-17-2009, 10:20 AM	#130
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12-17-2009, 10:58 AM	#138
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	Ok I just watched a little more... giving you the benefit of the doubt that I missed something the first time. I watched a "suduction video"... so you took an average, very obvious porn video where the models are paid, and point out things she is doing to try to seduce the guy??? The idea has some potential... but if you seriously wanted to execute it you would need to shoot your own content not use stock porn vids. My suggestion on how to do the concept right would be to shoot your on vids in bars or just out in public, even if they are staged make them have the appearence of being real. Make it more like a video how to, have a guy go up to the girl and strike out doing something wrong, then give "your advice" have he go back at her and show him being successful. Make it part comedy by showing them what not to do as much as you show them what to do. Take it a step further and make it educational. With your own clips you can get a model to get naked and first point out all the different parts of her body naked, what she likes to have done to her, how to do it, etc... The proper way to eat pussy, the wrong way.... etc... you can mix in the porn here. Get people to submit their own videos, if your videos are real good/funny it could go viral which is your best chance at traffic. The way you have it now, it's not clear what you are selling. I don't think many people would come back if they even understood it. It's not relivent. pointing out what a chick is doing on a porn video that she is paid to do does not = to showing single guys the right way to pick up girls You would need to basically start over, and with a MUCH bigger budget, shoot your owncontent and make the site look more like 2010 not 1996. Since you are on a budget try to partner with a content shooter who would be willing to do most of the work (not sure what you would have to offer other than some traffic). Try to put your ego a side and read what I posted, if it helps pretend that one of your bros posted it and not me. I know you see my name you already think... idiot.. he is trying to troll.... etc... i'm giving you very good, free advice. Or if you like I could just say... " WOW looks great, you will make millions" like a lot of your bros here. But who is really helping you, me or them ? __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue Last edited by will76; 12-17-2009 at 11:03 AM..

12-17-2009, 11:05 AM	#139
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	i love how the trolls that never made any money don't have a clue.... __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

12-17-2009, 11:06 AM	#140
webgurl Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Clouds with Carebears Posts: 7,954	I would be interested in finding out the results for this site . One thing that i would suggest , instead of using pornstars / European models on the tour. I think it would look alot better if you just shot exclusive real amateur content for this site , you can get really hot looking girls - exclusive - cheap content for this since it is non-nude and it's just photos even if you were going to shoot a few videos as well it shouldn't cost much .

12-17-2009, 11:10 AM	#141
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	must be hard to be a misunderstood genius.

12-17-2009, 11:12 AM	#142
ganjaman So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: morava kurva! Posts: 2,292	good idea man ... but better it will be with some unique girls or content i dont think you have unique content ... ? wish you best with the site man!

12-17-2009, 11:12 AM	#143
Ross Ik ben een aap Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Traffic Force Towers, Canada! Posts: 18,874	Good luck with it Sleazy, I think it's going to do very well for you.

12-17-2009, 11:22 AM	#147
pocketkangaroo Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 8,452	Am I the only one who has no idea what this site is offering?

12-17-2009, 11:25 AM	#149
dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,911	sleazy, good luck! don't forget- you can upsell furry hats.

12-17-2009, 11:26 AM	#150
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	I actually couldn't go to sleep last night thinking about this. I hate to see anyone fail at something they put their heart into. I have failed so many times on wild projects I thought was great but in reality they were dumb as fuck. Scott, drop your ego and listen to these people. All the bros you talked to when you were developing this did you a diservice by not telling you the truth about this idea. Scott scrap this project now, don't throw good money after bad man. I failed twice at trying to make paysites, but nobody knew cause I didn't tell anyone in case they did fail, which sure enough they did. Here you have incredibly smart paysite owners who have made millions over the years closing down shop, they know paysites front and back and they are failing. Do what you know works man. Make some legal tube sites, something that others are doing right now that's working. Please man I failed just as big as you did at a off line business. I had this crazy idea to buy tons of cheap silver jewelry, rent out rooms in antique stores and sell it. Great idea as the antique stores would sell it for me, take 10% then I just restock the rooms. I can't tell you how many hours of labor me, my wife, and my daughters put into this. I think I invested close to 200k into this. Display cases, display things for rings necklaces etc I have so much shit in my garage from this it's not even funny. About 150k was invested into the jewelry itself. Well as soon as I had 3 rooms set up guess what happened? Economy went to shit. Right now as I post this my daughter is sorting the jewelry so we can knock out the valuable stones and take 150k of silver jewelry to a smelter where I'll be lucky to get 40k for the sliver itself after they melt it all. As others have said prove me wrong man, I wished you could but in my opinion no matter how you skin this cat it's not gonna pur, ever. Scrap it now, cut your losses and go on with your life man. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o