Just found out one of my employees is a Meth addict.. advice? - GoFuckYourself.com

chupachups · 12-28-2009, 08:53 PM

Yeah, so I found out one of the very promising coders I have regurarly uses Meth.. I have heard about the shit and it seems worse than crack - kicking the habit usually is close to impossible. Anyone got some advice, experiences etc? Appearantly he has been using it for more than 5 years...
Thx!

Sly · 12-28-2009, 08:55 PM

Have him come over and clean your house.

fl_prn_str · 12-28-2009, 08:56 PM

you sum bitch.....you absolutely must terminate them with extreme prejudice.

jMEGA · 12-28-2009, 08:56 PM

How do you think he is able to stay up all night and code without meth?

L-Pink · 12-28-2009, 08:56 PM

Dump him fast.

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ShellyCrash · 12-28-2009, 08:56 PM

Do you have insurance? Some insurance plans actually cover drug counciling and rehab. Do what you can to clean him up - don't enable his habit.

chupachups · 12-28-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Have him come over and clean your house.

Already tried that - the resulting wear and tear of the furniture costs me too much.

JD · 12-28-2009, 08:57 PM

if it's not effecting his work it's none of your business

chupachups · 12-28-2009, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jMEGA

How do you think he is able to stay up all night and code without meth?

Yeah.. sigh.. damn

Sly · 12-28-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

Do you have insurance? Some insurance plans actually cover drug counciling and rehab. Do what you can to clean him up - don't enable his habit.

What business is it of his to "clean him up"?

You can't help somebody that doesn't want to be helped.

chupachups · 12-28-2009, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

Do you have insurance? Some insurance plans actually cover drug counciling and rehab. Do what you can to clean him up - don't enable his habit.

I am not in the US and nor is he, but relocating him has struck my mind. Meth, shabu, seem to be used quite a lot in the Philippines..

12-28-2009, 09:00 PM

Make sure he's got a steady supply of foils.

L-Pink · 12-28-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by JD

if it's not effecting his work it's none of your business

There is no happy ending when meth use gets heavy, and it always does. Dump him.

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chupachups · 12-28-2009, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JD

if it's not effecting his work it's none of your business

You are right about this, but on a "friend" basis I do of course feel for him. And, like they say, it becomes a problem when your addiction affects your life/work and thats indeed what has happened now - thus also making it my problem. The guy is "ill" every second/third day and blablabla

chupachups · 12-28-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

There is no happy ending when meth use gets heavy, and it always does. Dump him.

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Detox never helps or? I am also sceptic about the whole thing sigh..

L-Pink · 12-28-2009, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by chupachups

Detox never helps or? I am also sceptic about the whole thing sigh..

Relapse city most of the time. Which is tragic but not the employers problem.

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BillyHoe · 12-28-2009, 09:08 PM

Don't pay him in advance for work, aside from that what he does in his personal time isn't really anyone business but his own. I'd have a backup plan though. Cause when he dies, or goes to jail, you'll need another coder, and if he's been hitting it for 5 yrs one of the two is gonna happen soon. You don't occasionally smoke Meth. So his habit is only gonna grow, so figure 5 yrs he's probably got quite the habit

Good luck

shwsrvcs · 12-28-2009, 09:30 PM

you CAN occasionally do meth.... you CAN occasionally do anything. and a addictive personality is an addictive personality. if you don't have one, you don't. There is alot in the human mind that dictates addiction and control.

You need to rectify the situation with your own personal experiences and judgment. If he has been using it for 5 years and is still one of your promising coders, maybe he's not one of the ones who lets his use dictate his life.

DG

Waddymelon · 12-28-2009, 09:32 PM

He'll be stealing your shit in no time.

shwsrvcs · 12-28-2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chupachups

You are right about this, but on a "friend" basis I do of course feel for him. And, like they say, it becomes a problem when your addiction affects your life/work and thats indeed what has happened now - thus also making it my problem. The guy is "ill" every second/third day and blablabla

Ooops.. didn't read this part... yeah.. dump him. only by losing everything can someone find themselves laying prostate on the floor at 25 or 6 to 4 (3:35 or 3:34 am) and make the necessary changes to be normal.

DG

woj · 12-28-2009, 09:39 PM

I probably wouldn't get involved... you can't help him anyway, if he wants to do that shit, he will, no matter what you do...

JD · 12-28-2009, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chupachups

You are right about this, but on a "friend" basis I do of course feel for him. And, like they say, it becomes a problem when your addiction affects your life/work and thats indeed what has happened now - thus also making it my problem. The guy is "ill" every second/third day and blablabla

gotcha. yeah it's time to kick him to the curb sadly. :/

DBS.US · 12-28-2009, 09:44 PM

Don't do anything yet. I'm still working on a cash deal with him for all your computer gear.

shwsrvcs · 12-28-2009, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DBS.US

Don't do anything yet. I'm still working on a cash deal with him for all your computer gear.

Gonzo Modeling · 12-28-2009, 10:04 PM

work more hours.

LeRoy · 12-28-2009, 10:05 PM

As hard as it may be . Kick that dude to the curb like now.

Get your ducks in a row ( Passwords and all the important info) . Trusting this guy will be your doom.

Trust me I've been fucked hard by a tweaker that worked for me. Really really hard

fatfoo · 12-28-2009, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JD

if it's not effecting his work it's none of your business

That's debatable. What the employee is doing is extremely illegal.

Vendzilla · 12-28-2009, 10:06 PM

Seen this too many times, rehab doesn't work, the only thing I have seen work is changing everything, like moving to a new place and get new friends.
About the only thing that works, they have to hit rock bottom to figure out they have to change

fatfoo · 12-28-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shwsrvcs

Ooops.. didn't read this part... yeah.. dump him. only by losing everything can someone find themselves laying prostate on the floor at 25 or 6 to 4 (3:35 or 3:34 am) and make the necessary changes to be normal.

DG

3:33am ... There's is something about this time that could be evil or inspiring. I can't put my finger on it.

american pervert · 12-28-2009, 10:10 PM

i think it depends. if he comes into the office, i would stop that shit real fast.

if he works at home and gets his shit done on time, fuck it. last thing you want for him to not have any income from you and have him resort to finding other ways to make it.

besides, if his work doesn't suffer then you just need to let him worry about his morals.

L-Pink · 12-28-2009, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

rehab doesn't work, the only thing I have seen work is changing everything, like moving to a new place and get new friends.

Excellent advise.

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L-Pink · 12-28-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by american pervert

i think it depends. if he comes into the office, i would stop that shit real fast.

if he works at home and gets his shit done on time, fuck it. last thing you want for him to not have any income from you and have him resort to finding other ways to make it.

besides, if his work doesn't suffer then you just need to let him worry about his morals.

With a meth addict? Not a matter of if but when he fucks you.

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american pervert · 12-28-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chupachups

I am not in the US and nor is he, but relocating him has struck my mind. Meth, shabu, seem to be used quite a lot in the Philippines..

and pretty much everywhere else except anartica.

Farang · 12-28-2009, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Seen this too many times, rehab doesn't work, the only thing I have seen work is changing everything, like moving to a new place and get new friends.
About the only thing that works, they have to hit rock bottom to figure out they have to change

yep

american pervert · 12-28-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

With a meth addict? Not a matter of if but when he fucks you.

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they will let you down, thats for sure. it's just how much access you give him. let him access a server that is cut off from everything on your network and you won't need to worry about him stealing your data.

if the guy is a good worker, no need to punish him, he will do it to himself sooner or later.

12-28-2009, 10:18 PM

He's a liability, in every sense. Out the door.

Iron Fist · 12-28-2009, 10:56 PM

I love GFY.... "OMG! What do I do with a methhead!!!!!" ... too funny.... or you guys really are retarded.

brassmonkey · 12-28-2009, 11:05 PM

u better part ways they can get dangerous man i knew a few tweekers

sexuallyhealed · 12-29-2009, 04:20 AM

do meth with him

Lykos · 12-29-2009, 04:21 AM

If he is also a friend...help him if u can,but its hard to help persons like that...if not fire him...better for company on long run...

NetHorse · 12-29-2009, 04:26 AM

Regardless of his performance or your personal relationship with him I would fire him immediately. He is a liability, there are plenty of quality coders that aren't meth addicts.

Agent 488 · 12-29-2009, 04:57 AM

send him some lightbulbs for xmas.

iSpyCams · 12-29-2009, 06:12 AM

Just make sure you aren't dependent on him for anything, cause the main problem with these guys is they cannot be relied on for anything and will lose their shit on you the second you need them most.

Get a backup in place and phase him out slowly, any work you give him, make sure he isn't the only option you have to get it done.

And make sure he doesn't have access to anything of yours that could be worth money. (keys, passwords, etc.)

Fletch XXX · 12-29-2009, 06:19 AM

Alcoholics arte just as bad as meth addicts, and this place is filled with alcoholics who want you to trust them with your business/money. How many people in this thread couldnt go 5 years without a drink? A week? LOL

There is no difference between an alcoholic and meth addicts imho. How many lives has alcohol ruined? ;) As someone whos been through AA, meth and alcohol are the same damn thing.

ShellyCrash · 12-29-2009, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

What business is it of his to "clean him up"?

You can't help somebody that doesn't want to be helped.

I guess I am projecting and assuming he cares about his crew like I do.

If it were me I would offer what assistance would be within my means.

american pervert · 12-29-2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

Alcoholics arte just as bad as meth addicts, and this place is filled with alcoholics who want you to trust them with your business/money. How many people in this thread couldnt go 5 years without a drink? A week? LOL

There is no difference between an alcoholic and meth addicts imho. How many lives has alcohol ruined? ;) As someone whos been through AA, meth and alcohol are the same damn thing.

i think a meth addict can actually be a better worker than a drunk.

i dated a tweaker and would wake up to a totally clean apt.. granted she would also do her make up for hours and think we were talking about her..

i also dated a drunk would was not the cleanest and would get sloppy and physical when drinking.

both have their pros and cons. but i would never date a substance abuser again.. i don't like the competition

ajrocks · 12-29-2009, 07:49 AM

Fire them on the spot, change your locks and walk away. I've had the same thing happen and wish I had shut the door as soon as I found out. Too much drama and risk to have someone like that around your business.

SGS · 12-29-2009, 07:55 AM

I would replace him asap.

Agent 488 · 12-29-2009, 09:33 AM

over there that's just part of their work culture. disengage yourself from drug propagnada here and see it in that light.

seeandsee · 12-29-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chupachups

Yeah, so I found out one of the very promising coders I have regurarly uses Meth.. I have heard about the shit and it seems worse than crack - kicking the habit usually is close to impossible. Anyone got some advice, experiences etc? Appearantly he has been using it for more than 5 years...
Thx!

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shwsrvcs Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 600	you CAN occasionally do meth.... you CAN occasionally do anything. and a addictive personality is an addictive personality. if you don't have one, you don't. There is alot in the human mind that dictates addiction and control. You need to rectify the situation with your own personal experiences and judgment. If he has been using it for 5 years and is still one of your promising coders, maybe he's not one of the ones who lets his use dictate his life. DG __________________ MUTTCASH! Start Earning today! www.muttcash.com

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american pervert Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,830	i think it depends. if he comes into the office, i would stop that shit real fast. if he works at home and gets his shit done on time, fuck it. last thing you want for him to not have any income from you and have him resort to finding other ways to make it. besides, if his work doesn't suffer then you just need to let him worry about his morals. __________________ I can resist everything except temptation

12-28-2009, 10:18 PM	#36
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12-29-2009, 04:20 AM	#39
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