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[Mutt]

it's your business i know so do what you want but do you have any idea the magnitude of the distribution of your entire site for free all over the Net? i don't think any one single paysite comes close to being ripped off as much as FH18.

maybe the massive exposure of your content isn't hurting sales but I gotta think it has to be.

http://www.removeyourcontent.com

[Bobbiekey]

with the amount of active members i think they dont care

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by Bobbiekey

with the amount of active members i think they dont care

that's probably true. i'm the laziest fucker in the world and hate sending out DMCA emails and following up on them but RemoveYourContent would do it for them at a pretty cheap price.

[ladida]

Originally Posted by Bobbiekey

with the amount of active members i think they dont care

I'm seriously interested what amount of members you think they have to "not care"? WTF.

[Bobbiekey]

Originally Posted by ladida

I'm seriously interested what amount of members you think they have to "not care"? WTF.

i cant tell you i dont know how to write the number

[joshuawk]

they seem like a paysite that is tube-proof...

[Oracle Porn]

whats so special about that site? looks just like any other regular hardcore reality style paysite

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

whats so special about that site? looks just like any other regular hardcore reality style paysite

guess it had a unique twist when it launched, the sexy massage, others have copied it since - they shoot the newest cutest girls and dress them up nicer than most other sites. i've never watched a scene but the trailers i've seen are pretty hot.

if it didn't have the massage studio angle and the nicer clothes it would be just another Pure18, 18YearsOld and a dozen other similar teen hardcore sites.

[VikingMan]

Originally Posted by Mutt

guess it had a unique twist when it launched, the sexy massage, others have copied it since - they shoot the newest cutest girls and dress them up nicer than most other sites. i've never watched a scene but the trailers i've seen are pretty hot.

if it didn't have the massage studio angle and the nicer clothes it would be just another Pure18, 18YearsOld and a dozen other similar teen hardcore sites.

The guy "Jake" is not a pornstar so he actually gets into dressing up and fucking the girls. I shot a handful of the scenes. Many of the pornstar guys would rather eat a cheeseburger than "work" with yet another LA porn girl. Seriously I was on a Naughty America set and one of the male talents was waiting around to do his scene with the skank du jour and he told me he was tired, cold, and wished he could just go home to snuggle with his GF.

[ladida]

Originally Posted by Bobbiekey

i cant tell you i dont know how to write the number

Figures you have no idea.

They have nowhere near the members to not care.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by *******

one of the male talents was waiting around to do his scene with the skank du jour and he told me he was tired, cold, and wished he could just go home to snuggle with his GF.

what does NA pay male talent? top guys make 7-800 a scene no? hard to beat that for a few hours fucking porn girls.

[andrej_NDC]

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn

whats so special about that site? looks just like any other regular hardcore reality style paysite

You really can't see the difference between this site and other hardcore sites? This is why some people can still make the same money in adult than 5 or more years ago...they know what are the right sites to promote.

[andrej_NDC]

Originally Posted by Mutt

what does NA pay male talent? top guys make 7-800 a scene no? hard to beat that for a few hours fucking porn girls.

lol most girls make that or less...only the somehow famous girls ask for more. Guys are probably lucky to get 200-300. When I was shooting dirtyjason, I don't think I paid a girl more than $600, in Florida.

[dirtymind]

that site is, hot they girls are not looking fake or anything and the scenes start easy and sensual and get really hardcore later with the girls going crazy is honest and true way.

That's a site they will sell no matter what.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

lol most girls make that or less...only the somehow famous girls ask for more. Guys are probably lucky to get 200-300. When I was shooting dirtyjason, I don't think I paid a girl more than $600, in Florida.

not talking about Florida - the economy hasn't affected the LA talent prices for the new hot girls and the stars, both male and female. go look at Brazzers and Naughty America, all those girls are getting their $800-1000 a day, more for anal. And the top guys are making 700+ - you used to never see the top male talent in website content, they had all the work they needed with the top DVD studios. With DVD studios struggling the top stunt cocks are shooting for web companies that can afford them. The middle rung male talent in LA make $4-500 per scene.

the girls taking less are the girls who've been around awhile and who aren't top stars.

[andrej_NDC]

Originally Posted by Mutt

not talking about Florida - the economy hasn't affected the LA talent prices for the new hot girls and the stars, both male and female. go look at Brazzers and Naughty America, all those girls are getting their $800-1000 a day, more for anal. And the top guys are making 700+ - you used to never see the top male talent in website content, they had all the work they needed with the top DVD studios. With DVD studios struggling the top stunt cocks are shooting for web companies that can afford them. The middle rung male talent in LA make $4-500 per scene.

the girls taking less are the girls who've been around awhile and who aren't top stars.

Yeah, girls in LA are more expensive, but they were asking for 150-200 more, thats still around $800. No way someone would pay a guy the same as the girl. But it can be, with the more famous guys. I guess they can shoot longer.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Mutt

it's your business i know so do what you want but do you have any idea the magnitude of the distribution of your entire site for free all over the Net? i don't think any one single paysite comes close to being ripped off as much as FH18.

maybe the massive exposure of your content isn't hurting sales but I gotta think it has to be.

http://www.removeyourcontent.com

http://fuckedhard18.com/ very good looking models on that site, so you were saying where do I go find this for free so I don't have to pay

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Mutt

what does NA pay male talent? top guys make 7-800 a scene no? hard to beat that for a few hours fucking porn girls.

I know guys taking less than half of that for shoots LOL

People think guys make more than they do. The top gay stars make more than straight males.

[Martin]

I can't believe guys get paid to fuck hot pornstar chicks. They should get paid fuck all.

Back to the subject. Yes Hard18 doesn't seem to care all their shit is on the tubes. I mean they have to be aware of it.

[Scott McD]

They really do get the hottest chicks! Or at least they make they get very hot looking as has been said by the way they dress them up.

Even if they do get a lot of members, surely you still wouldn't want to lose out on many more, regardless of what kinda money you are making ??

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by Mutt

that's probably true. i'm the laziest fucker in the world and hate sending out DMCA emails and following up on them but RemoveYourContent would do it for them at a pretty cheap price.

We've been working with RYC for quite awhile and really love their service. They are top notch over there for sure


spaz

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

I know guys taking less than half of that for shoots LOL

yeah, the middle class of male talent - there are guys who will work for $2-300 but you get what you pay for. Brazzers aren't dumb, they are carving out a reputation for the highest quality hardcore porn network on the Net by paying a lot of attention to production values and paying through the nose to achieve it. They're spending 6-8K per scene according to JustDaveXXX. Most are spending 2K per scene.

of course it's a lot easier to spend $6-8K per scene when you're making millions off the backs of other producers and web programs with content stealing tube sites.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

They really do get the hottest chicks! Or at least they make they get very hot looking as has been said by the way they dress them up.

Even if they do get a lot of members, surely you still wouldn't want to lose out on many more, regardless of what kinda money you are making ??

same girls every other hardcore site has but they put more effort into cleaning the girls up nice - hair,makeup and wardrobe. and you can say the same thing about Amateur Allure, FTV Girls - same girls, but look better because they put the extra effort/expense into giving the girls a look.

[Roald]

Originally Posted by andrej_NDC

You really can't see the difference between this site and other hardcore sites? This is why some people can still make the same money in adult than 5 or more years ago...they know what are the right sites to promote.

can you please keep this quite!!!



Thnx ;)))

[geirlur]

It's a good site and it rebills well. I've notified Josh a few times myself when I've found fh18 content on tubes and he has taken care of it.
Btw since nobody posted a refcode yet click here if you want to promote Fucked Hard 18!

[VikingMan]

Originally Posted by Mutt

yeah, the middle class of male talent - there are guys who will work for $2-300 but you get what you pay for. Brazzers aren't dumb, they are carving out a reputation for the highest quality hardcore porn network on the Net by paying a lot of attention to production values and paying through the nose to achieve it. They're spending 6-8K per scene according to JustDaveXXX. Most are spending 2K per scene.

of course it's a lot easier to spend $6-8K per scene when you're making millions off the backs of other producers and web programs with content stealing tube sites.

Yeah if you guys really knew what Bang Bros, NA, and Brazzers spent per scene you would fall over. NA even has sound guys and set designers LOL. These companies pay their male talent $700-$800 because they use the guys with the huge cocks like Billy Glide. (Billy is a really good guy and is not the person I was talking about in my OP) BTW, had any guy ever been walking around one of my sets and whining that he wanted to go home I would have sent him home without a dime.

Another classy thing these companies do is take the pressure of financial risk off the producer. So if some retarded psycho bitch slut whore (like Shawna Lenee for example) comes on set, gets treated VERY well, decides to be a brat because she would rather go home to her loser BF, begins crying and calls up her scumbag pretend agent (A-list Talent/ Exotic star) and completely fabricates a story about how the photographer is being mean to her, then walks off a set that cost $1,500, the company (Bang Bros Brazzers, NA) will PICK UP THE TAB WITHOUT FLINCHING. These companies do not just leave the producer out there hanging and having to absorb those costs.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by *******

Yeah if you guys really knew what Bang Bros, NA, and Brazzers spent per scene you would fall over. NA even has sound guys and set designers LOL. These companies pay their male talent $700-$800 because they use the guys with the huge cocks like Billy Glide. (Billy is a really good guy and is not the person I was talking about in my OP) BTW, had any guy ever been walking around one of my sets and whining that he wanted to go home I would have sent him home without a dime.

Another classy thing these companies do is take the pressure of financial risk off the producer. So if some retarded psycho bitch slut whore (like Shawna Lenee for example) comes on set, gets treated VERY well, decides to be a brat because she would rather go home to her loser BF, begins crying and calls up her scumbag pretend agent (A-list Talent/ Exotic star) and completely fabricates a story about how the photographer is being mean to her, then walks off a set that cost $1,500, the company (Bang Bros Brazzers, NA) will PICK UP THE TAB WITHOUT FLINCHING. These companies do not just leave the producer out there hanging and having to absorb those costs.

interesting - it's not just the big cock that makes a good male talent, that definitely is required. good male talent make the scene - Manuel Ferrara is the best I've seen.

I don't know how NaughtyAmerica is doing it - they also have live pornstar programming all day long not to mention the productions for their network of paysites. gotta be huge costs and they don't have the Brazzers tube traffic money pouring in.

[VikingMan]

Originally Posted by Mutt

I don't know how NaughtyAmerica is doing it - they also have live pornstar programming all day long not to mention the productions for their network of paysites. gotta be huge costs and they don't have the Brazzers tube traffic money pouring in.

Not sure either but the crew is certainly happy. Some really cool people