Any Mormons around here?

[AaronM]

I have a friend who "converted" to the Mormon side a couple of years ago. Over the last couple of weeks he and I have been spending some time together....Most of it in Las Vegas while gambling, drinking booze & coffee, and who knows how many other things his fellow Mormons would not be supportive of...

Anyway...He keeps telling me how great Mormons are. How they are perfect people bla bla bla.....

So I mention to him that yesterday I read something about Utah being the number 1 consumer of online porn (or something like that) and he tells me that ZERO percent of those people are Mormon. He says there is NO WAY that a Mormon would ever buy/view/consume adult material.....As he sits across the table from me drinking a beer.

Meanwhile he's been pressing me about talking with missionaries and such so that I can hear from them what it's all about. I told him that I doubt the Mormons would accept what I do in this industry and he says they would open their arms and invite me in anyway. According to him producing porn is a business that would not offend Mormons BUT consuming porn is different and frowned upon.

I could go on and on about the random bullshit he has been spewing at me.....

Anyway.....Are any of you Mormon or had experiences with the Mormons?

[mayabong]

I know that my girl and I watch big love on HBO every sunday and thats about Mormons (Bill Paxton). Girls love the idea of multiple wives (after watching the show of course)

Mormons are way to happy I used to work for one in New Orleans, I think all are on antidepressants. I know the women are.

[ColetteX]

[billywatson]

Yea -- I shoot them a lot.

Tell your idiotic Mormon pal some of the biggest porn stars are LDS. Starting with Bella Donna.

The Mormons are second-to-none when it comes to hypocrisy.

[DigitalTheory]

Jack Mormons FTW

[Semi-Retired-Dave]

So funny you mention this today out of all days. I was talking about all this to some Mormons today.

[2012]

jesus loves me

[BlackCrayon]

Its all bullshit. Mormons are some of the most fake people. Not to say they are bad people but they feel they have to project a certain image. They definintely consume porn, etc.

[SpongeBub]

I think South Park pretty much summed up the Mormon faith for me. Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

But I do like the idea of sacred undergarments. They protect you from stray bullets and such.

[J. Falcon]

Just a lot of morons.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by billywatson

Yea -- I shoot them a lot.

Tell your idiotic Mormon pal some of the biggest porn stars are LDS. Starting with Bella Donna.

Who else?

[rhon23]

my dad and step mom are super mormons. I get the speech about every 6 months on how my job is sending me strait to hell.

[AaronM]

Originally Posted by rhon23

my dad and step mom are super mormons. I get the speech about every 6 months on how my job is sending me strait to hell.

According to my friend....None of that matters. When you die you have 1000 years to hang out in one of a few places of limbo and take your time to decide if you want to burn in hell or go to heaven. What you do on earth makes no difference on if you go to hell or not according to his version of the Mormon church.

If he's correct about that then your parents are not being very good Mormons.

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by rhon23

my dad and step mom are super mormons. I get the speech about every 6 months on how my job is sending me strait to hell.

you should tell them you have a room reserved with air conditioning so no biggie

[baddog]

I have had flings with a couple.

[fatfoo]

Originally Posted by AaronM

producing porn is a business that would not offend Mormons BUT consuming porn is different and frowned upon.

That does not make sence.

[billywatson]

Originally Posted by AaronM

Who else?

Jayma Reid.

[ArsewithClass]

Of course they would invite you in with open arms --- you'd be bringing a new revenue stream to the table. Just like Scientology (I can't believe that I just capitalized the 'S' on that garbage but I'll leave it to show my true political correctness)... lol

[quiet]

one of my girlfriends back in my uni days, had a mormon roomate. she wasn't too bad, but her parents were super fucking annoying. i tried to not be around whenever they came over, incredibly over-bearing and always trying to talk you into converting.

[seeandsee]

i am cockmon :D

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by AaronM

According to my friend....None of that matters. When you die you have 1000 years to hang out in one of a few places of limbo and take your time to decide if you want to burn in hell or go to heaven. What you do on earth makes no difference on if you go to hell or not according to his version of the Mormon church.

If he's correct about that then your parents are not being very good Mormons.

Mormons don't believe in heaven or hell. They believe there are 3 "worlds", all of which are far better than this one and you would kill yourself just to get to the third one. Its very hard to get to the first one but those that do supposidly get to become gods and goddesses and create worlds. The only way to go to "hell" or as they call it, "outter darkness" would be if god/jesus appeared before you and you "denied" them, whatever that means...Oh and Mormons definitely look down on producing porn. Hell to hem even thinking of having sex with a woman who isn't your wife is adultery.

[Iron Fist]

Man i'm tired... I read the title as "Any Morons around here?" .. and well don't ask me why I clicked it either.

PWNED!

[Domain Broker]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

That does not make sence.

How doesn't it?

You're just retarded.

[SykkBoy]

Recovered mormon here...

I even got baptized for some dead relatives when I was younger

education of mormonism can be found here:
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page

My cousin is actually a main contributor to that site.

Aaron, your friend is a jack mormon. He is also wrong about the whole open arms thing, at least as an overall thing. Producing porn and consuming it are both looked down upon.

The family on Big Love are part of the separatists, like the RLDS and TLC

I have a lot of cousins who have gone on missions, married their high school sweethearts and most of them are still married today. One of my cousins is a high ranking bishop in Orem, UT. While there are some who are major hypocrites, there are also many who are devoted to their churches, their families and their beliefs. The only reason they accept me "with open arms" is because I'm family, not because they want to embrace a sinner.

I also remember when my uncle's house burned down. His neighbor, who owned a construction company helped rebuild his house with funding provided by the church. Volunteers came out and helped him rebuild his house. So, many can shit all over the mormons and I've had my share of trouble with them and the religion as a whole, but I've seen a lot of them show humanity and more of a christian attitude than most self-proclaimed christians. I remember when my father got laid off after working for 13 years at US Steel and Christmas probably wasn't going to happen, yet the church pulled together and several members brought over food, gifts, etc.

Anyways...back on topic, haha...
your friend is trying to have the best of both worlds...he wants to be embraced by the lord when he ascends to the Terrestial or telestial kingdom, but also enjoy destroying his holy temple (his body). But, not every Mormon is a perfect mormon.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

Recovered mormon here...

I even got baptized for some dead relatives when I was younger

education of mormonism can be found here:
http://www.mormonwiki.com/Main_Page

My cousin is actually a main contributor to that site.

Aaron, your friend is a jack mormon. He is also wrong about the whole open arms thing, at least as an overall thing. Producing porn and consuming it are both looked down upon.

The family on Big Love are part of the separatists, like the RLDS and TLC

I have a lot of cousins who have gone on missions, married their high school sweethearts and most of them are still married today. One of my cousins is a high ranking bishop in Orem, UT. While there are some who are major hypocrites, there are also many who are devoted to their churches, their families and their beliefs. The only reason they accept me "with open arms" is because I'm family, not because they want to embrace a sinner.

I also remember when my uncle's house burned down. His neighbor, who owned a construction company helped rebuild his house with funding provided by the church. Volunteers came out and helped him rebuild his house. So, many can shit all over the mormons and I've had my share of trouble with them and the religion as a whole, but I've seen a lot of them show humanity and more of a christian attitude than most self-proclaimed christians. I remember when my father got laid off after working for 13 years at US Steel and Christmas probably wasn't going to happen, yet the church pulled together and several members brought over food, gifts, etc.

Anyways...back on topic, haha...
your friend is trying to have the best of both worlds...he wants to be embraced by the lord when he ascends to the Terrestial or telestial kingdom, but also enjoy destroying his holy temple (his body). But, not every Mormon is a perfect mormon.

Yes, overall most are good people. I just have major problems with a lot of the 'rules' and expectations they have. I was raised in the church and had to go there from birth till i was 16. Having to give 10% of all income is just retarded. My mom who is hardcore into it couldn't afford any more to pay that and she felt terrible, they wouldn't let her go to the temple, etc.

There are also always a number of people there for the free handouts. If you are poor, they will give you some kind of 'welfare' as long as you are at least attempting to live up their ideals. Anyhow, while i've grown to find most of the basis for the religion pretty out there a lot of members are just good family people who need/want something to believe in. The branches are typically close-knit and a lot of people like that. They will welcome everyone and everyone but will expect you to eventually rid yourself of the sinful lifestyle. Hell, they'll even accept gay people...as long as you aren't "practicing"..I did the baptisms for the dead thing too when I was 13/14. My girlfriend still refuses to believe people do that, ha.

[Cyber Fucker]

I've got my very own religion.

[LeRoy]

Just start another thread.

Anyone From Utah??

Anyone that replies will probably be Mormon ;)

[SykkBoy]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Yes, overall most are good people. I just have major problems with a lot of the 'rules' and expectations they have. I was raised in the church and had to go there from birth till i was 16. Having to give 10% of all income is just retarded. My mom who is hardcore into it couldn't afford any more to pay that and she felt terrible, they wouldn't let her go to the temple, etc.

There are also always a number of people there for the free handouts. If you are poor, they will give you some kind of 'welfare' as long as you are at least attempting to live up their ideals. Anyhow, while i've grown to find most of the basis for the religion pretty out there a lot of members are just good family people who need/want something to believe in. The branches are typically close-knit and a lot of people like that. They will welcome everyone and everyone but will expect you to eventually rid yourself of the sinful lifestyle. Hell, they'll even accept gay people...as long as you aren't "practicing"..I did the baptisms for the dead thing too when I was 13/14. My girlfriend still refuses to believe people do that, ha.

yeah, baptisms for the dead are nuts...it was pretty damn scary, being 13 and thinking my great great grandfather might not get into the higher kingdom.

I remember when I became a deacon and got to pass out the sacrament...it felt like such an honor, then my first day of doing it, my pants pocket got caught on something and I had a rip in my pants and that's all I could think of while passing the tray of water-filled cups down the row.

[billywatson]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

Yes, overall most are good people.

I disagree. They're highly judgmental, and once they figure out they're not going to convert you, they exclude you.

Sex abuse in the church is their dirty secret. I had a Mesa (AZ, high Mormon population) cop once tell me if they "prosecuted all the Mormon uncles diddling their nieces they'd have no time for anything else".

They teach women to obey no matter what the circumstance. In fact, their whole church is built around never questioning authority (like most...which is why the CIA loves to recruit a good Mormon boy).

While he was alive, Mark Twain called Salt Lake City "the greatest whorehouse west of the Mississippi" cause of all the weird plural marriages and shit going down.

Throughout the church's short existence (it's only 150 years old or so), the church's Quorum have had "divine revelations" whenever the church was about to lose their tax-exempt status as a church (due to things like blood-letting, plural marriages, denying blacks admittance to the church).

Secret names, secret handshakes, Gold plates only Joseph Smith could read (or see), your own planet to rule in the afterlife, and magic underpants are just some of the fun called LDS!

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by billywatson

I disagree. They're highly judgmental, and once they figure out they're not going to convert you, they exclude you.

Sex abuse in the church is their dirty secret. I had a Mesa (AZ, high Mormon population) cop once tell me if they "prosecuted all the Mormon uncles diddling their nieces they'd have no time for anything else".

They teach women to obey no matter what the circumstance. In fact, their whole church is built around never questioning authority (like most...which is why the CIA loves to recruit a good Mormon boy).

While he was alive, Mark Twain called Salt Lake City "the greatest whorehouse west of the Mississippi" cause of all the weird plural marriages and shit going down.

Throughout the church's short existence (it's only 150 years old or so), the church's Quorum have had "divine revelations" whenever the church was about to lose their tax-exempt status as a church (due to things like blood-letting, plural marriages, denying blacks admittance to the church).

Secret names, secret handshakes, Gold plates only Joseph Smith could read (or see), your own planet to rule in the afterlife, and magic underpants are just some of the fun called LDS!

Maybe I didn't see it so much because I was never an adult in the church nor did I live in an area with many mormoms around. As soon as I was old enough (my mother decided I could make my own choice at 16) I left and never went back.

I do agree that when abuse does happen, they don't like it going public, I assume due to PR reasons. There was a missionary that molested some kids in my branch and he got away with it despite so many people knowing...eventually someone put him away though because I read he recently was killed in a Utah prison. However I don't really think abuse happens any more in LDS families than any other. The church has a very racist history and a strange past, much of which I was totally unaware until I did my own research. I think many mormons have no idea about it.

[Atticus]

I think the Mormons are full of shit but I find it amusing that the Catholics and other religions like to bash them. Because their burning bush, walking on water, immaculate conception, Noah's Ark etc etc etc are so much more believable than magic underpants.

Same with Scientology, everyone likes to bash them while they head to morning mass. If it works for you, it works for you, but stop passing judgement on everyone else.

On a side note I will give the Mormons something. They take care of their own. If one of them is struggling the community helps to pick them up.

[billywatson]

Originally Posted by Atticus

I think the Mormons are full of shit but I find it amusing that the Catholics and other religions like to bash them. Because their burning bush, walking on water, immaculate conception, Noah's Ark etc etc etc are so much more believable than magic underpants.

On a side note I will give the Mormons something. They take care of their own. If one of them is struggling the community helps to pick them up.

Two great points.

I am an equal opportunist when it comes to bashing religion...but I won't bash faith.

[DateDoc]

I have a friend who is Mormon or maybe she is an ex-mormon. She owns a legal brothel now.

[fuzebox]

I dated a mormon for 4 years. She gradually left the church but her mom was really hardcore into it... I ended up going to several church services and meeting a lot of people from the chuch, a lot of them were a lot more extreme than the usual protestant "community church" type christians I was used to.

My conclusion is that Joseph Smith was a genius Not a lot of guys would get away with finding "new chapters" of the bible and attracting millions to their cult these days...

[quiet]

Jon Krakauer's 'Under the Banner of Heaven' is a very good read, if not a bit slanted, on the Mormon faith.

[HerPimp]

Excommunication, don't bullshit yourself.

[billywatson]

Originally Posted by quiet

Jon Krakauer's 'Under the Banner of Heaven' is a very good read, if not a bit slanted, on the Mormon faith.

The book to read is Fawn Brodie's "No Man Knows My History". It got her excommunicated. It was published around 1942, and a lot of Mormons make it a small mission to check that book out of the library and "lose it" -- to this day.

[BlackCrayon]

I came across this once on youtube, its pretty funny but a lot of BS at least compared to what I was taught while in the church...

Also as far out as what mormons might believe, a good point is made that all religions are built on crazy stories that never really happened.

[quiet]

Originally Posted by billywatson

The book to read is Fawn Brodie's "No Man Knows My History". It got her excommunicated. It was published around 1942, and a lot of Mormons make it a small mission to check that book out of the library and "lose it" -- to this day.

i believe he references that book quite a bit in his book.

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by billywatson

Sex abuse in the church is their dirty secret. I had a Mesa (AZ, high Mormon population) cop once tell me if they "prosecuted all the Mormon uncles diddling their nieces they'd have no time for anything else"

To be fair, those girls are more often lava hot than not.

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

To be fair, those girls are more often lava hot than not.

Their young women are their #1 recruiting tool...

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

I came across this once on youtube, its pretty funny but a lot of BS at least compared to what I was taught while in the church...

Also as far out as what mormons might believe, a good point is made that all religions are built on crazy stories that never really happened.

Awesome sharing with my friends

[2012]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

I came across this once on youtube, its pretty funny but a lot of BS at least compared to what I was taught while in the church...

Also as far out as what mormons might believe, a good point is made that all religions are built on crazy stories that never really happened.

holy shit

[CheeseHead Nacho Burger]

Originally Posted by AaronM

I have a friend who "converted" to the Mormon side a couple of years ago. Over the last couple of weeks he and I have been spending some time together....Most of it in Las Vegas while gambling, drinking booze & coffee, and who knows how many other things his fellow Mormons would not be supportive of...

Anyway...He keeps telling me how great Mormons are. How they are perfect people bla bla bla.....

So I mention to him that yesterday I read something about Utah being the number 1 consumer of online porn (or something like that) and he tells me that ZERO percent of those people are Mormon. He says there is NO WAY that a Mormon would ever buy/view/consume adult material.....As he sits across the table from me drinking a beer.

Meanwhile he's been pressing me about talking with missionaries and such so that I can hear from them what it's all about. I told him that I doubt the Mormons would accept what I do in this industry and he says they would open their arms and invite me in anyway. According to him producing porn is a business that would not offend Mormons BUT consuming porn is different and frowned upon.

I could go on and on about the random bullshit he has been spewing at me.....

Anyway.....Are any of you Mormon or had experiences with the Mormons?

The guy is full of crap. For one thing, Mormon missionaries tell me that they equate producing porn with murder. Yes... they feel it is just as bad to kill, as to produce porn.

Number 2... at the top of the Mormon church hierarchy sits a handful of Apostles and one Prophet. I sat beside one of the Mormon apostles' sons on a flight to Sacramento not very long ago. He told me about a Bible study they had the night before our flight where porn was the topic. His brother led the study and challenged all wives to ask their husbands on the drive home how long it had been since he'd last looked at porn. He, the man sitting beside me on that flight - son of an apostle, said he had to be truthful and tell his wife it had been less than two weeks. So much for your friend's assertion that Mormons don't look at porn... even the son of apostles admits he does.

[Deej]

Like with most extreme religious, comes hypocrisy...

[HeadPimp]

Of course they would welcome you with open arms. You have money to contribute to the church. One serious look at Mormon history is enough to keep me out of Utah and away from them.

It was started by a full fledged con man, left for Utah after the authorities cracked down on them. They murdered pioneers coming through the area and blamed it on the Indians. Blacks were considered inferior and not allowed in until relatively recently.

Fundamentalist Mormons believe in forced polygamy (with underage girls) and defraud the welfare system whenever possible. They also kill anyone that attempts to leave. They have several 'retraining centers' where they send women that disobey.

Anyone that does their research on them and still joins or stays a member is simply an idiot, and yes I mean that whole heartedly.

As for you Aaron, next time you are up my way, give me a shout! Love to hook up and do lunch or some such thing!

[Pics Traffic]

I was there for SLC Olympics. Idiots all around. They even had their own "mormon beer" - 3% alcohol. Budweiser makes special Utah beer. I am not shitting you.