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Old 04-01-2010, 09:19 AM   #1
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"Democracy must be put on hold for the time being"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...james-lovelock

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On how humans will ever manage to tackle climate change:

We need a more authoritative world. We've become a sort of cheeky, egalitarian world where everyone can have their say. It's all very well, but there are certain circumstances ? a war is a typical example ? where you can't do that. You've got to have a few people with authority who you trust who are running it. And they should be very accountable too, of course.

But it can't happen in a modern democracy. This is one of the problems. What's the alternative to democracy? There isn't one. But even the best democracies agree that when a major war approaches, democracy must be put on hold for the time being. I have a feeling that climate change may be an issue as severe as a war. It may be necessary to put democracy on hold for a while.
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:24 AM   #2
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People are too stupid to have opinions. Society and control as it is today will never work. Giving everyone an "equal say" is fucked up. We gotta go back to being small groups of like-minded people that kill inferior groups of like-minded people for control over 10,000 acres of land which we assume is the entire world.
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:36 AM   #3
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it will happen whether we whine about it or not.
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:39 AM   #4
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentti_Linkola

He advocates eugenics, genocide,and abortion as possible means to combat overpopulation. He describes the Stalinist and Nazi massacres, as "massive thinning operations," but which have "not overturned our ethical norms".[9] He has suggested that big cities should be attacked by "some trans-national body like the UN", with nuclear weapons or with "bacteriological and chemical attacks".[10]. Linkola has described humans as a cancer of the earth, and he desires that the human population be reduced to 5 million.[11][12]

Ideally, Linkola believes that Finnish society should be ruled by an environmentally-aware elite. He writes that this elite would ban almost all use of motorized vehicles, and transfer populations from bigger cities to the countryside to create an agrarian society. This would eliminate the need for parking lots and construction, and trees would be planted on major roads. Industrialists and technologists would be retrained as agricultural labourers. Procreation would be licensed, with an average of one child born to each woman. Local autarchy would reduce the need for travel, which would be done by foot, paddling, horse or bicycle, instead of by cars, airplanes or motorboats.
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:39 AM   #5
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Yeah this global warming thing is killing our friend up north.. that HOT SNOW is really getting to them.
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Old 04-01-2010, 09:40 AM   #6
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Yet another liberal nutbag.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:09 AM   #7
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Chairman Mao said the same thing, and then he killed 77 million people.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:10 AM   #8
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People are too stupid to have opinions. Society and control as it is today will never work. Giving everyone an "equal say" is fucked up. We gotta go back to being small groups of like-minded people that kill inferior groups of like-minded people for control over 10,000 acres of land which we assume is the entire world.
sounds exciting to me.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:20 AM   #9
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Of course the new world order people will use the fear of climate change to push their agenda.
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Old 04-01-2010, 10:27 AM   #10
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It's not such a bad idea...
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:02 AM   #11
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It's not such a bad idea...
Yea lets just hand over all the powers to the State.

You know because they do such a great job and all.
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:20 AM   #12
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they had to change the name of global warming to Climate change after record cold reports
they aren't really that bright
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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:23 AM   #13
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentti_Linkola

He advocates eugenics, genocide,and abortion as possible means to combat overpopulation. He describes the Stalinist and Nazi massacres, as "massive thinning operations," but which have "not overturned our ethical norms".[9] He has suggested that big cities should be attacked by "some trans-national body like the UN", with nuclear weapons or with "bacteriological and chemical attacks".[10]. Linkola has described humans as a cancer of the earth, and he desires that the human population be reduced to 5 million.[11][12]

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Old 04-01-2010, 12:06 PM   #14
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But even the best democracies agree that when a major war approaches, democracy must be put on hold for the time being.
It's still a democracy if democracy agree
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