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Old 05-13-2010, 02:38 PM   #1
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As expected, the Los Angeles City Council today passed a resolution limiting the city's dealings with Arizona-based businesses and opposing any federal immigration legislation that's based on racial profiling or discrimination. The move was approved by every councilmember except Greig Smith, who represents one of the most conservative parts of the city in the Northwest San Fernando Valley.

Before the vote, Janice Hahn, one of resolution's authors, offered her reasoning to why do this when the city is facing a budget crisis. "There are few times, I think, in our lives when we have the opportunity to stand up and be counted and say, 'when wrong is wrong and when good is good,' and we know bad things happen when good people do not stand up and say something," she said. "Let's stand up today and say yes for what we believe what should America look like and behave like."

Councilman Paul Koretz stood up and took issue with another recent Arizona decision about education. As explained by the Wall Street Journal, "the Arizona Department of Education recently began telling school districts that teachers whose spoken English it deems to be heavily accented or ungrammatical must be removed from classes for students still learning English."

Koretz said that if that were a federal law, it would be "the very beginning of what went on in Nazi Germany." He added that Arizona "needs to be stunned in every possible way until they stop this behavior. We can't let this advance any further, this is absolutely dangerous."

Councilmember Richard Alarcon then entered an amending motion seeking to offer Arizona-based businesses incentives to move to Los Angeles. Various city agencies are instructed to develop and present a plan within thirty days on a package of incentives to offer to them.

Many others spoke, including Bill Rosendahl who said that he's openly gay and still faces discrimination. And Eric Garcetti noted Arizona currently has the worst economy in the country while Texas, which also deals with immigration issues as a border state, has the fastest growing economy. He also pointed out that the state banned animal-human hybrids. "Because that seems to be the most pressing problem, too," he sniped.

Smith, the sole dissenting voter, did not speak during the debate.
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Anyone who drives from San Diego to L.A. sees a different version of the illegal immigrant stuff. Well its Border Patrol, but in San Onofre you have to stop at a check point so they can see if you look like you might be illegal. Yesterday on the way back from San Diego, I get waved through in a shiny red Mercedez, while the truck behind me of Mexican gardners gets waived into secondary. How is this any different?

Same shit. Different bureaucracy.
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me thinks la should be much more focused on the billion dollar deficit it has and not on political posturing, but hey, they do what they are good at.
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FUCK LOS ANGELES!

Pussy asses can shit talk all they want, we don't need their fucking money.
Also.. if you watch their ' new confer. ', all I see is a bunch of darker skinned people so I am sure its the ' Mexican ' people taking a stand againts the whites!

They are turning this into a race war when it's simply NOT!

Its about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, not MEXICANS, RUSSIANS, CHINESE.. its about anyone here illegally!
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Also.. if you watch their ' new confer. ', all I see is a bunch of darker skinned people so I am sure its the ' Mexican ' people taking a stand againts the whites!

They are turning this into a race war when it's simply NOT!
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Fact is, this affects 15 business in the valley that currently do business with the City of LA. Was on the news last night. Good government always picks on those who have nothing to do with it right?

What effect will this have on the state of Arizona? ZERO as it will only affect the 15 hard working small business owners who had nothing to do with this law and in fact may have even hired illegals themselves as they are all manufacturing companies.

Good Job LA, hit em where it hurts!
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Acting decisively, L.A.'s City Council adopted a strongly worded resolution that wishes the city's budget deficit would "go away really soon, like in the next three months or so."

Alleged Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa drafted the statement after rejecting calls for Los Angeles to declare bankruptcy or shrink its bloated pension system.

"This was the only viable alternative," the mayor said, noting that officials from Greece and Congress have already contacted the city for details on the program.

After the resolution passed, Villaraigosa and several City Council members climbed onto their unicorns and rode off into a rainbow-filled sunset.
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me thinks la should be much more focused on the billion dollar deficit it has and not on political posturing, but hey, they do what they are good at.
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Acting decisively, L.A.'s City Council adopted a strongly worded resolution that wishes the city's budget deficit would "go away really soon, like in the next three months or so."

Alleged Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa drafted the statement after rejecting calls for Los Angeles to declare bankruptcy or shrink its bloated pension system.

"This was the only viable alternative," the mayor said, noting that officials from Greece and Congress have already contacted the city for details on the program.

After the resolution passed, Villaraigosa and several City Council members climbed onto their unicorns and rode off into a rainbow-filled sunset.

He did this to hide something else. Villaraigosa is a slick mother fucker. He's like the Carlos Mencia of Mayor's, uses a fake Hispanic background to get his way.
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me thinks la should be much more focused on the billion dollar deficit it has and not on political posturing, but hey, they do what they are good at.
God, no kidding. Now's the time to drive business, any kind of business, OUT of LA? Is that his way of trying to blow Obama for some federal aid or what?
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LA should worry about their own city. LA has had so many cases of cops and racism it is not even funny. AZ should boycott LA, they will suffer much worse.
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I think this has nothing to do with them actually opposing the law the AZ and a more to do with the fact that tens of thousands of illegals that were living in AZ are now heading for Cali. Cali isn't happy about that and they want someone to pay for it.
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LA should worry about their own city. LA has had so many cases of cops and racism it is not even funny. AZ should boycott LA, they will suffer much worse.
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Speaking of checkpoints, a couple of years ago I was driving up I-5 between Oceanside and San Clemente, where that checkpoint is. They stopped the Izuzu Truck in front of me with weapons drawn. They must have had at least 20 Mexicans lying side by side ontop of each other in the back. It was like watching a clown car at the circus. The only thing I could think of at the time was how unsafe that was and if they had gotten into a wreck. Damn Shame.


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Anyone who drives from San Diego to L.A. sees a different version of the illegal immigrant stuff. Well its Border Patrol, but in San Onofre you have to stop at a check point so they can see if you look like you might be illegal. Yesterday on the way back from San Diego, I get waved through in a shiny red Mercedez, while the truck behind me of Mexican gardners gets waived into secondary. How is this any different?

Same shit. Different bureaucracy.
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Comparing this to Nazi Germany if fucking ludicrous...

First... they aren't even LEGALLY in the US... Jews were German citizens.

Second... they're being sent back to where they came from and are a legal citizen of... They aren't going to a concentration camp.
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What effect will this have on the state of Arizona? ZERO as it will only affect the 15 hard working small business owners who had nothing to do with this law and in fact may have even hired illegals themselves as they are all manufacturing companies.
If they are hiring illegals I have zero sympathy for them as they are part of the problem.
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California is an entitlement state and drives business out of the state. Many companies that are in California have LLC's in Nevada. Way too liberal in leadership and too much paid out for anchor babies to welfare.
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Wait... Our economy is worse than say, California or Michigan? Seriously?
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California is an entitlement state and drives business out of the state. Many companies that are in California have LLC's in Nevada. Way too liberal in leadership and too much paid out for anchor babies to welfare.
Nobody cares about California. The morons in that state are seriously need to get back on their medication.
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If they are hiring illegals I have zero sympathy for them as they are part of the problem.
Sometimes it's not the case. My friend worked for a frozen food manufacture until very recently. They hired people that were able to show IDs and have a social security number. It can take months to years for the government to report that there was a problem with the social security number on the W9s. He knew that most of the staff was probably not legal but what do you do if they show paperwork?
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He knew that most of the staff was probably not legal but what do you do if they show paperwork?
AZ is a right to work state. If he thinks they are illegals he is within his right to not hire them.
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Oh no, a possible back fire?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...owing-boycott/

Roughly 2 million Arizonans visit San Diego each year but the recession has taken a toll on the hotel industry that was hoping for a comeback this year. Hotels are offering deep discounts to fill up their undersold rooms while the tourism board spends $7 million this spring and summer season to promote travel to the area.
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i cant see how the politicians have a right to do this.
sure if they consider it to be wrong then sue them but AZ should have a right to do what they want to do as long as it is constitutionally legal, this is some sort of favoritism game..
FUCK THAT

and yeah, fix the goddamn budget now, stupid ass Schwarzenegger should never have take that car tax down, and he did it during GOOD TIMES when everybody could afford to pay little extra tax, especially on the gas guzzlers...
they are experts in wasting funds while the public schools are going down the drain, now ranking some 40th in the nations, WELL DONE GUBERNATOR
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LA should worry about their own city. LA has had so many cases of cops and racism it is not even funny. AZ should boycott LA, they will suffer much worse.
The in laws are coming to town for my birthday this week and they wanted to go to sea world and Disney land during their visit....... we all agreed to put the axe in that. We will be spending our money in Arizona, relaxing by a stream in Sedona
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Why doesn't AZ ship its illegals in buses to LA then!

Follow the buses to the border of AZ and California to make sure they are not getting off while still in AZ

I am all for REAL immigration but not border jumpers!
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Stupid fucking Mexican activists. They honestly believe they speak for the whole hispanic population. Any central american or south american will tell you, Mexican activists are full of shit and the most racist culture, next to those white pride assholes.
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The in laws are coming to town for my birthday this week and they wanted to go to sea world and Disney land during their visit....... we all agreed to put the axe in that. We will be spending our money in Arizona, relaxing by a stream in Sedona
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The in laws are coming to town for my birthday this week and they wanted to go to sea world and Disney land during their visit....... we all agreed to put the axe in that. We will be spending our money in Arizona, relaxing by a stream in Sedona
That would probably make more sense if either were located in LA. Neither are even in LA County, much less the City of LA.
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i cant see how the politicians have a right to do this.
sure if they consider it to be wrong then sue them but AZ should have a right to do what they want to do as long as it is constitutionally legal, this is some sort of favoritism game..
FUCK THAT

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they are experts in wasting funds while the public schools are going down the drain, now ranking some 40th in the nations, WELL DONE GUBERNATOR
I wouldn't be too upset about that. Had they gotten that money they just would have wasted it somewhere else and the end result would still be the same: no money.
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I fail to see the huge problem with the recent Arizona events.

If you are legal, you don't have a problem. Someone stops you on the street, you show ID (like dozens of other countries), no problem.

Think of it like showing ID at a bar. Sometimes, hot girls or a guy who pulls up in a $200K car walk right in, while you (who looks 35) are asked for ID. Same thing here; except rather than looks or status, it's race.

The ones all up in arms are more than likely illegal or have family members who are illegal. They don't like it, no one is forcing them to live in Arizona.

It's kind of like here on GFY, those who whine and act out the loudest, are generally the people making the least money / have no traffic.

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I wouldn't be too upset about that. Had they gotten that money they just would have wasted it somewhere else and the end result would still be the same: no money.
actually it has to do with different taxes are earmarked for certain expenses.
the car tax was for schools and education. since it was canceled they had to fund this from the general fund which is now again being depleted..
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That would probably make more sense if either were located in LA. Neither are even in LA County, much less the City of LA.


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Old 05-17-2010, 03:39 PM   #42
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How about LA should boycott its own state

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblo...tacks-ariz-la/


They have the pretty close to the same damn law

Below is a copy of section 834b of the California Penal Code that deals with immigration law enforcement at the local level.

(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.

Here is Arizona's SB 1070

ARTICLE 8. ENFORCEMENT OF IMMIGRATION LAWS

14 11-1051. Cooperation and assistance in enforcement of

15 immigration laws; indemnification

16 A. NO OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR

17 OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE MAY ADOPT A POLICY THAT LIMITS OR

18 RESTRICTS THE ENFORCEMENT OF FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS TO LESS THAN THE FULL

19 EXTENT PERMITTED BY FEDERAL LAW.

20 B. FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY

21 OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS

22 STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS

23 UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE,

24 WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE

25 PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

26 PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c).

27 C. IF AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES IS

28 CONVICTED OF A VIOLATION OF STATE OR LOCAL LAW, ON DISCHARGE FROM

29 IMPRISONMENT OR ASSESSMENT OF ANY FINE THAT IS IMPOSED, THE ALIEN SHALL BE

30 TRANSFERRED IMMEDIATELY TO THE CUSTODY OF THE UNITED STATES IMMIGRATION AND

31 CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT OR THE UNITED STATES CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION.

32 D. NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER LAW, A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY MAY

33 SECURELY TRANSPORT AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES

34 AND WHO IS IN THE AGENCY'S CUSTODY TO A FEDERAL FACILITY IN THIS STATE OR TO

35 ANY OTHER POINT OF TRANSFER INTO FEDERAL CUSTODY THAT IS OUTSIDE THE

36 JURISDICTION OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.
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Old 05-17-2010, 03:40 PM   #43
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I think this has nothing to do with them actually opposing the law the AZ and a more to do with the fact that tens of thousands of illegals that were living in AZ are now heading for Cali. Cali isn't happy about that and they want someone to pay for it.
where did you come up with this?
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where did you come up with this?
It is just my own thought. Many political leaders are opposed to the AZ law. Many of the leaders from the states surrounding AZ are not happy with it not because it is tough on immigration or they feel it is immoral, but because it is going to drive these immigrants out of AZ and into their states. I read the other day that they estimate as many as 40,000 illegals have already moved from AZ into Cali just since the passage of the law. Add into that the fact that many illegals that would have gone to AZ are now going to skip that state and go right to Cali has Cali not very happy.

So they decide if AZ is going to kick them and pass a law that sends all the illegals scrambling to Cali then Cali is going to kick back and pass a law stopping some business from profiting in Cali.

It is just a thought, but I think it has a ring of truth to it and I feel it might be more realistic that just some of the leaders of Cali morally opposing the law. It is basically like the city of LA saying to AZ, "If you are going to send your burdens and your troubles to us, don't expect to then sell us your wares and profit off of us."
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It is just my own thought. Many political leaders are opposed to the AZ law. Many of the leaders from the states surrounding AZ are not happy with it not because it is tough on immigration or they feel it is immoral, but because it is going to drive these immigrants out of AZ and into their states. I read the other day that they estimate as many as 40,000 illegals have already moved from AZ into Cali just since the passage of the law. Add into that the fact that many illegals that would have gone to AZ are now going to skip that state and go right to Cali has Cali not very happy.

So they decide if AZ is going to kick them and pass a law that sends all the illegals scrambling to Cali then Cali is going to kick back and pass a law stopping some business from profiting in Cali.

It is just a thought, but I think it has a ring of truth to it and I feel it might be more realistic that just some of the leaders of Cali morally opposing the law. It is basically like the city of LA saying to AZ, "If you are going to send your burdens and your troubles to us, don't expect to then sell us your wares and profit off of us."

you do realize *they* have no way of calculating the # of illegals fleeing az eh? let alone where they are going.

also, while the media is full of shit, i've read that 13 other states are moving to adopt a similar law, including those states surrounding az.
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I found this in the comments of a news article thought I would share!



Let's say I break into your house (This was an email I received. It explains things better than all the baloney you hear on TV.) Recently large demonstrations have taken place across the country protesting the fact that Congress is finally addressing the issue of illegal immigration. Certain people are angry that the US might protect its own borders, might make it harder to sneak into this country and, once here, to stay indefinitely.

Let me see if I correctly understand the thinking behind these protests. Let's say I break into your house.

Let's say that when you discover me in your house, you insist that I leave. But I say, 'No! I like it here. It's better than my house. I've made all the beds and washed the dishes and did the laundry and swept the floors. I've done all the things you don't like to do. I'm hard-working and honest (except for when I broke into your house).

According to the protesters:
You are Required to let me stay in your house. You are Required to feed me. You are Required to add me to your family's insurance plan. You are Required to Educate my kids. You are Required to Provide other benefits to me & to my family. My husband will do all of your yard work because he is also hard-working and honest. (except for that breaking in part). If you try to call the police or force me out, I will call my friends who will picket your house carrying signs that proclaim my RIGHT to be there. It's only fair, after all, because you have a nicer house than I do, and I'm just trying to better myself. I'm a hard-working and honest, person, except for well, you know, I did break into your house.

And what a deal it is for me!!! I live in your house, contributing only a fraction of the cost of my keep, and there is nothing you can do about it without being accused of cold, uncaring, selfish, prejudiced, and bigoted behavior. Oh yeah, and I DEMAND that you learn MY LANGUAGE!!! so that you can communicate with me.

Why can't people see how ridiculous this is?! America is populated and governed by idiots.

If you agree, pass it on (in English). If not blow it off......... along with your future Social Security funds and a lot of the former benefits of being an American Citizen.



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I was reading somewhere that it was costing the state 2.7 billion dollars, regarding the widespread illegal alien problem. But apparently racial profiling, or the alleged constitutionality takes precedence over bankrupting a state.
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That would probably make more sense if either were located in LA. Neither are even in LA County, much less the City of LA.

We not going to spend any of our money in California.....that was my intent..... no matter what county or city, if it affects the revenues of the state, it will hit home.
Cali wants to boycott us, fine, I am all for it, in return my boycott cost the the state....

It works two ways, ya know
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How can a state so bankrupt that it is forced to issue IOUs, boycott anything? I don't think this would affect Arizona in the slightest.
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I fail to see the huge problem with the recent Arizona events.

If you are legal, you don't have a problem. Someone stops you on the street, you show ID (like dozens of other countries), no problem.

Think of it like showing ID at a bar. Sometimes, hot girls or a guy who pulls up in a $200K car walk right in, while you (who looks 35) are asked for ID. Same thing here; except rather than looks or status, it's race.

The ones all up in arms are more than likely illegal or have family members who are illegal. They don't like it, no one is forcing them to live in Arizona.

It's kind of like here on GFY, those who whine and act out the loudest, are generally the people making the least money / have no traffic.

The problem is, is that they are awaikening to harsh reality check......their free lunch is over and now they have "NO" American rights .......oh no!
They have abused our laws, they have shown totall disregard for the laws of this country and what they fail to realize, is that they had no rights as an American citizen in the beginning.
This just shows how stupid some of these fucking assholes are
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