What is fucking wrong with America?

[POed-poster]

Tea party contenders surge in S. Carolina, Nevada

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl2441

[dyna mo]

no jobs tend to cause a shake up in elections.

[Amputate Your Head]

Everyone needs something to believe in.

[Coup]

round up all baggers and ship them to Somalia so they can live in the no-tax small gubment libertarian utopia of their dreams.

[kane]

These aren't "Tea Party Candidates." These are republicans that the Tea Party likes. The Tea Party is basically made up of Republicans so this isn't a big surprise really.

I'll be impressed by the power of the Tea Party when I see a candidate actually run as a member of the Tea Party. Right now they are all just Republicans trying to get the Tea Parties support.

[Vendzilla]

Whats wrong with you should be the question
How can you post on a forum bitching about a group of people that are tired of the status quo. It's kinda retarded

You have the right to bitch in this medium
they are bitching in their medium, their VOTES

That's America and that's the best thing about it

[$5 submissions]

Ron Paul revolution getting traction. I thought it was a shot at the moon when Ron Paul was running in 08 but his message is resonating.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by kane

These aren't "Tea Party Candidates." These are republicans that the Tea Party likes. The Tea Party is basically made up of Republicans so this isn't a big surprise really.

I'll be impressed by the power of the Tea Party when I see a candidate actually run as a member of the Tea Party. Right now they are all just Republicans trying to get the Tea Parties support.

the Tea party is not a party, it's a movement

[Caligari]

I'm sure there are even a few democrats who drool
over the thought of a good teabagging;)

[kane]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

the Tea party is not a party, it's a movement

Exactly. It is a movement made up almost entirely of conservative republicans. These are people who were going to vote republican anyway so it is nothing new. The only new thing is that the have grouped together in some way. Kind of like the christian right has done in the past.

They aren't changing anything, they are just going to vote the same old people back into office and we will play the same shitty games over and over again.

If they really are sick of the status quot they would form a party and start working on getting some of their own candidates elected in some of the smaller local and state elections.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Whats wrong with you should be the question
How can you post on a forum bitching about a group of people that are tired of the status quo. It's kinda retarded

You have the right to bitch in this medium
they are bitching in their medium, their VOTES

That's America and that's the best thing about it

that's pretty much how i see it too, gotta give credit to those people, they are active.

[smutnut]

America - LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

come on Kane, he's in the porn biz and posting in a porn forum.. conservative republican?

That's my next project to become a conservative!

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

Ron Paul revolution getting traction. I thought it was a shot at the moon when Ron Paul was running in 08 but his message is resonating.

Freedom is popular.

[Rochard]

Great, let's all vote for them and when they fail also, we'll blame it all on them.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by kane

Exactly. It is a movement made up almost entirely of conservative republicans.

Polls have been done at large tea party events. 50% of the tea partiers are independents and democrats. Most are conservative but that does not mean they are not social liberals and does not mean they would vote republican .

http://www.gallup.com/poll/127181/te...ographics.aspx

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Polls have been done at large tea party events. 50% of the tea partiers are independents and democrats. Most are conservative but that does not mean they are not social liberals and does not mean they would vote republican .

http://www.gallup.com/poll/127181/te...ographics.aspx

That is complete LYING BULLSHIT! A DEMOCRAT wouldn't join the TEA PARTY even if they wanted to!

Why don't you tell us how GLOBAL WARMING IS A MYTH, please lets start a thread on that!

[kane]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Polls have been done at large tea party events. 50% of the tea partiers are independents and democrats. Most are conservative but that does not mean they are not social liberals and does not mean they would vote republican .

http://www.gallup.com/poll/127181/te...ographics.aspx

I don't doubt many of them are independents. I just have yet to see them support anyone but conservative republicans. Their actions speak louder than poll responses do.

Maybe that will change. I assume the movement will grow and the republicans will hope to ride it back into power later this year. If that happens and the republicans fail to deliver on their promises will we see the tea party suddenly lash out against them? I guess only time will tell, but I won't hold my breath to see that happen.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

come on Kane, he's in the porn biz and posting in a porn forum.. conservative republican?

You might be shocked to find out how some people in this biz feel.

Just read some of the threads about gay marriage and you will see that there are some porn peddlers who want the freedom to do as they please, but don't want to afford that same freedom to others.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by kane

some porn peddlers who want the freedom to do as they please, but don't want to afford that same freedom to others.

that's not very cool and anyone in the tea party or anyone who considers it legit is a real fucking dick sucking piece of shit! Nothing personal against homosexuals!

[kane]

Originally Posted by smutnut

that's not very cool and anyone in the tea party or anyone who considers it legit is a real fucking dick sucking piece of shit! Nothing personal against homosexuals!

I think the Tea party is a lot more conservative than some people want to let on. If you look at that poll Illtest posted you can see that 65% of them consider themselves to be pro-life and 62% have a favorable opinion of the republican party while 63% have a favorable opinion of conservatives. That doesn't sound like a very socially liberal group to me.

[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls

Freedom is popular.

Yes and freedom knows no boundaries, creed, color, race, etc. I live in a developing country and I strongly believe that a lot of Ron Paul's economic thoughts would help this country truly develop. Oligarchic fake capitalism/monopoly = poverty for the majority.

[Vendzilla]

Originally Posted by kane

Exactly. It is a movement made up almost entirely of conservative republicans. These are people who were going to vote republican anyway so it is nothing new. The only new thing is that the have grouped together in some way. Kind of like the christian right has done in the past.

They aren't changing anything, they are just going to vote the same old people back into office and we will play the same shitty games over and over again.

If they really are sick of the status quot they would form a party and start working on getting some of their own candidates elected in some of the smaller local and state elections.

They have a lot of independants in their ranks, I'm registered as independant. I'm conservative for the most part but hate the two party system. I hate all the spending, I hate entitlement spending when people are unemployed, 10% for over a year now.
This is what the Tea Party is about. If you paid attention, they got involved with a democrat race

Originally Posted by dyna mo

that's pretty much how i see it too, gotta give credit to those people, they are active.

I know we don't agree on everything, but we do agree that this is a right in this country, when you see a problem, you can do something about it

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

as you probably know I don't agree with your Tea party stuff, but you're right on the money with this post.

I've done some reading on the Tea Party. I even saw that one of the leaders was on the View, it was interesting to say the least. Any group that can get together in such large numbers and tilt the political machine by influence and peaceful protest, I love it.
Not because of my conservative nature, but the grassroots effort to do it right. If it were a liberal movement, someone would be calling the present administration baby killers.

[Bill8]

I think it would be great to see the tea people win a bunch of elections.

People will see that they don't have any idea how to govern. They have no policy. It will be the funniest thing ever.

And it's hilarious to see them rip the guts out of the corporate republicans.

I'd love to see dick cheney or sarah palin run for pres as the teabag candidate.

Ron Paul would be even better.

[DateDoc]

People have the right to believe in what they want. Just because you do not believe in the same things as them does not make them wrong. They have 1 vote and so do you. Use it wisely.

[smutnut]

Originally Posted by kane

I think the Tea party is a lot more conservative than some people want to let on. If you look at that poll Illtest posted you can see that 65% of them consider themselves to be pro-life and 62% have a favorable opinion of the republican party while 63% have a favorable opinion of conservatives. That doesn't sound like a very socially liberal group to me.

I'm pretty sure they are the modern day Militia or KKK but I could be wrong!

[$5 submissions]

Talking about Tea Parties and conservative candidates. Here's my current fave: Chris Christie

I love this dude!





Straight talk

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by Bill8

I think it would be great to see the tea people win a bunch of elections.

People will see that they don't have any idea how to govern. They have no policy. It will be the funniest thing ever.

And it's hilarious to see them rip the guts out of the corporate republicans.

I'd love to see dick cheney or sarah palin run for pres as the teabag candidate.

Ron Paul would be even better.

We're doing that right now with all the Democrats

[Nikki_Licks]

Originally Posted by smutnut

America - LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!

Thank you!!!!

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Interesting, I recently had a conversation with a group Southern conservatives due to looking at property. Anyway, during dinner the subject of gay marriage came up and they asked my opinion and I said sure why not?

The next question was..are you gay?

My answer went like this..

Me: crohn's disease

Hick:Crohn's disease?... What does that have to do with being gay?

Me: Absolutely nothing. Matter fact, I don't even know what crohn's disease is. Hell, I don't even have an interest to find out, but I've met 1000's of people in my life and never once asked any of them if they have crohn's disease.

Hick: <looking confused>.....what does that have to do with being gay?

Me: I'm not gay Bobby, but I will be picking up the check.

Is this where you stupidly stereotype conservatives based on one conversation with one of them? If so, I can give you plenty of hilarious anecdotes involving me and some feminine liberals(redundant, I know).

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by smutnut

that's not very cool and anyone in the tea party or anyone who considers it legit is a real fucking dick sucking piece of shit! Nothing personal against homosexuals!

"That's note very cool" ???

You're not very articulate, or very smart. Those people are allowed to believe as they choose which is an honor some people, obviously not you, fought for.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

They have a lot of independants in their ranks, I'm registered as independant. I'm conservative for the most part but hate the two party system. I hate all the spending, I hate entitlement spending when people are unemployed, 10% for over a year now.
This is what the Tea Party is about. If you paid attention, they got involved with a democrat race

Which democrat?

I too am registered as an independent and I am more of a libertarian by nature I guess. I believe in being fiscally conservative, balancing the budget, spending wisely and keeping taxes down. However I am also pretty liberal socially. I think gay people should be allowed to get married. I think pot should be legal and I think people should be allowed to do pretty much whatever they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone else.

I don't hate the tea party and I am glad to see some people actually taking some kind of a stance and speaking up for themselves. That said, I still think they are mostly republican and will primarily elect the same republicans who were just in power a few years ago so nothing will really change. Maybe that will be different 5-10 years from now and they will be more of a third party, but for now I don't think they are going bring about much change, it will be more of the same.

For all the talk people do claiming that they want change and that radical changes need to be made, most people really don't. Those who really, honestly want a sea change in direction are a pretty small group. It is partially why guys like Ron Paul only can get 8-10% of the vote. Pretty much everyone else is either happy, doesn't care or only wants small changes made.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Interesting, I recently had a conversation with a group Southern conservatives due to looking at property. Anyway, during dinner the subject of gay marriage came up and they asked my opinion and I said sure why not?

The next question was..are you gay?

My answer went like this..

Me: crohn's disease

Hick:Crohn's disease?... What does that have to do with being gay?

Me: Absolutely nothing. Matter fact, I don't even know what crohn's disease is. Hell, I don't even have an interest to find out, but I've met 1000's of people in my life and never once asked any of them if they have crohn's disease.

Hick: <looking confused>.....what does that have to do with being gay?

Me: I'm not gay Bobby, but I will be picking up the check.

I had a funny conversation with my brother's mother in law about gay marriage last year. She is very much against it and is one of those people who says, "If gays marry, then what next, will people marry sheep and horses?" She also thinks it will destroy the value of marriage so I asked her:

"How long have you been married?"

She said, "41 years."

"So it is safe to say you two are committed to each other?"

"Yes"

I then asked, "If you are driving home next week and there is an announcement on the radio that says that gay marriage is now legal in the entire country and gays are getting married all over the place would you go home and tell your husband it is over with, that your marriage is clearly of no value and that you need to go your own ways because your commitment to each other is meaningless?"

She said, "no."

"Why not?"

"Because our marriage is fine."

"So all these gays getting married has no effect on your commitment to your husband?"

"No, I don't care about them."

"So how is their getting married destroying the establishment of marriage? You got married, take it seriously and have committed to it. Everyone else in society and what they are doing has no effect on you."

She got pissed at me and said it wasn't the same thing then refused to discuss it any further. She probably would have asked me if I was gay but this was at Thanksgiving (one of the two times a year I see her - this day and for by nieces and nephew's birthday party.) and my girlfriend was with me.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by kane

I think the Tea party is a lot more conservative than some people want to let on. If you look at that poll Illtest posted you can see that 65% of them consider themselves to be pro-life and 62% have a favorable opinion of the republican party while 63% have a favorable opinion of conservatives. That doesn't sound like a very socially liberal group to me.

Being pro-life isn't necessarily a conservative/Republican trait. I know a TON of Democrats that are very pro-life.

People are Republicans for different reasons and people are Democrats for different reasons. Most forget that. They cannot all be under one nice little blanket definition.

[Bill8]

Originally Posted by The Demon

We're doing that right now with all the Democrats

Which is why most incumbents are afraid.

Which is a good thing. politicians should fear the voters. The Pa battle between sestak and toomey should be very educational - a true progressive vs tea contest, with arlen spector as the classic old party bull castrated and gutted by both sides.

Bring on the tea party. They will destroy the republicans, and have relatively little effect otherwise.

let them rule a few states, and lets see what their policy decisions will be. right now they have no clear policies. a demonstration of what they can actually do should be very educational.

nevada is a perfect test bed state. a low-population tourism economy state that nodody really gives a fuck about.

[$5 submissions]

It should be interesting how it all plays out in November. Another factor that might influence November's polls is the possibility of a double dip recession.

[NetHorse]

The tea party movement will be the least of our worries if the current administration keeps heading in the direction it's heading.

Massive spending on an unprecedented level
Increased taxes on the working class to support entitlement programs
Increased taxes / fines on small businesses
Cap & Trade, (more taxes)
More government regulation, less jobs in the private sector

Every city in the country will look like this....

[Bill8]

Originally Posted by NetHorse

Every city in the country will look like this....

next time run somebody that has a chance of winning.

then your side can fuck up the country again, like your last president did.

and you can have a bunch of wars and shit, and maybe even get antiporn laws passed and overturn roe v wade and do all the shit you guys want, lol.

and we will all get to see how well your great policies fix the fundamental problems caused by thirty years of greed and neglect and plutocracy.

That should be as funny as fucking hell.

[EliteWebmaster]

Nothing is wrong with the Red White and Blue. Anyone who's unhappy with America can do us all a favor and get the hell out.

[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by NetHorse

The tea party movement will be the least of our worries if the current administration keeps heading in the direction it's heading.

Massive spending on an unprecedented level
Increased taxes on the working class to support entitlement programs
Increased taxes / fines on small businesses
Cap & Trade, (more taxes)
More government regulation, less jobs in the private sector

Every city in the country will look like this....

That video says that the average price of a house in Detroit is $5700 Damn.

[onwebcam]

As others have said these aren't grassroot tea partiers. These are Republicans using the Tea Party movement to get into office where most of them will do the same as the other criminals in the District Of Criminals. There are only a handfull of grassroot movement folks running. IE the Paul's, Schiff, etc The only good thing to come out of most of these is booting some of the lifers such as McCain and Reid. And it's always nice to see a White House scandel and cover up which is still unfolding btw.

[NetHorse]

Originally Posted by Bill8

next time run somebody that has a chance of winning.

then your side can fuck up the country again, like your last president did.

and you can have a bunch of wars and shit, and maybe even get antiporn laws passed and overturn roe v wade and do all the shit you guys want, lol.

and we will all get to see how well your great policies fix the fundamental problems caused by thirty years of greed and neglect and plutocracy.

That should be as funny as fucking hell.

Typical response, blame it on Bush.

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by NetHorse

Typical response, blame it on Bush.

Helen Thomas did it all!

[NetHorse]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

Helen Thomas did it all!

[bhutocracy]

Originally Posted by kane

I don't doubt many of them are independents. I just have yet to see them support anyone but conservative republicans. Their actions speak louder than poll responses do.

Maybe that will change. I assume the movement will grow and the republicans will hope to ride it back into power later this year. If that happens and the republicans fail to deliver on their promises will we see the tea party suddenly lash out against them? I guess only time will tell, but I won't hold my breath to see that happen.

That was a pretty funny poll. I remember when it first came out people were trumpeting how there was "Over 50% Democrat and Independent" support for the Tea Party movement.. A hilarious misrepresentation of the statistics. Especially when emphasis was put on the "Democrat" part even though it was neglible. After the Republicans essentially became an embarrassment, more and more Republican voters starting calling themselves Independent. The very next line below that is far more telling - 7% liberal 70% conservative, yeah, TEN TIMES more likely to be a conservative than a liberal. Hardly "mainstream".

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

It should be interesting how it all plays out in November. Another factor that might influence November's polls is the possibility of a double dip recession.

You mean a depression.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by Bill8

next time run somebody that has a chance of winning.

then your side can fuck up the country again, like your last president did.

and you can have a bunch of wars and shit, and maybe even get antiporn laws passed and overturn roe v wade and do all the shit you guys want, lol.

and we will all get to see how well your great policies fix the fundamental problems caused by thirty years of greed and neglect and plutocracy.

That should be as funny as fucking hell.

Definitely. Our side can fuck shit up, then your side destroys the economy longterm. Definitely funny as fucking hell.

[Agent 488]

http://www.google.ca/search?sourceid...n-pone+fascism

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by NetHorse

The tea party movement will be the least of our worries if the current administration keeps heading in the direction it's heading.

Massive spending on an unprecedented level
Increased taxes on the working class to support entitlement programs
Increased taxes / fines on small businesses
Cap & Trade, (more taxes)
More government regulation, less jobs in the private sector

Every city in the country will look like this....

It's not entirely the fault of the administration. It's a really good example of how factory unions can fuck things up.

Video makes everywhere look very run down but for house prices to average at $5700 there must still be some quite nice areas to counter against all the houses that are only any good for firewood.

[Bill8]

Originally Posted by The Demon

Definitely. Our side can fuck shit up, then your side destroys the economy longterm. Definitely funny as fucking hell.

you're just a big crybaby, with a poor awareness of history.

all of we americans fucked up our economy with decades of mismanagement and neglect and selfish blindness. We are all responsible.

but you don't have the delf-awareness to grasp your own culpability and like a child want to blame everything on a boogeyman.

well boogeyman away, crybaby. seize power again, and then you will become the boogeyman yourself, because these problems are fundamental and rooted in economic forces beyond your current childish ability to comprehend and blame.