No mosque at Ground Zero

[WarChild]

[_Richard_]

free religion for all.. or not?

[WarChild]

No religion at all.

[DBS.US]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

free religion for all.. or not?

That's America for you

[marketsmart]

i bet they will still let you where a mosque at Halloween though...





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[Fletch XXX]

"the religion that murdered them"

lol this guys rocks

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

free religion for all.. or not?

Yup, if you forget 9/11. Those few radicals ruined it for the majority of the normal Muslims.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by The Demon

Yup, if you forget 9/11. Those few radicals ruined it for the majority of the normal Muslims.

if that is true, then Christianity, along with every other religion would be 'ruined'

and if 9/11 had anything to do with religion, why did they attack a global financial hub?

the white house would have made a bigger statement

but don't let me get in the way of your assumptions

[The Demon]

[QUOTE=_Richard_;17228201]if that is true, then Christianity, along with every other religion would be 'ruined'[/quite]
You do realize that a LOT of people are still wary of Christianity, especially Southern Christians, because of something that happened 800 years ago? You're also aware that the perception of something from 9 years ago would undoubtedly be different from 800 years ago?

and if 9/11 had anything to do with religion, why did they attack a global financial hub?

Oh right, thanks mayabong. I'll give you a dollar for everytime you make a valid statement.

the white house would have made a bigger statement

but don't let me get in the way of your assumptions

Thanks, your questions and deducing skills make me giggle.

[_Richard_]

[QUOTE=The Demon;17228208]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

if that is true, then Christianity, along with every other religion would be 'ruined'[/quite]
You do realize that a LOT of people are still wary of Christianity, especially Southern Christians, because of something that happened 800 years ago? You're also aware that the perception of something from 9 years ago would undoubtedly be different from 800 years ago?


Oh right, thanks mayabong. I'll give you a dollar for everytime you make a valid statement.



Thanks, your questions and deducing skills make me giggle.

so if it was a religious act, why did they attack a world trade center that would get everyones attenion, and ire, then somethign that would solely be an american target?

[The Demon]

[QUOTE=_Richard_;17228217]

Originally Posted by The Demon

so if it was a religious act, why did they attack a world trade center that would get everyones attenion, and ire, then somethign that would solely be an american target?

Not only can you not spell properly which makes it hard to find a point in your sentence, but you also seem to be asserting that a "suicide bombing" or "crashing into a building", are NOT religious acts? If that's the case, please point me to your nearest drug dealer, I'll buy what you've been taking.

[Tom_PM]

It doesnt matter what you say to the demon. You're wrong, and you're dumb, and he's right, and he's smart. ta da. Need to pay attention for the rest of life == over.

Anyway, I maintain as I have for the last 10 years. We should HAVE (be done by now) built back the twin towers EXACTLY as they were. We still should. IMHO

[_Richard_]

[QUOTE=The Demon;17228228]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

Not only can you not spell properly which makes it hard to find a point in your sentence, but you also seem to be asserting that a "suicide bombing" or "crashing into a building", are NOT religious acts? If that's the case, please point me to your nearest drug dealer, I'll buy what you've been taking.

so the japanese kamikaze'n american warships was an act of religion?

[CaptainHowdy]

I'd rather pass on any comment regarding that matter...

[The Demon]

[QUOTE=_Richard_;17228247]

Originally Posted by The Demon

so the japanese kamikaze'n american warships was an act of religion?

Nope, it was an act of war outlined by the Japanese mentality. I find it hilarious that you can't draw proper distinctions between a Japanese Kamikaze during WWII, and Jihad.

[sortie]

Originally Posted by WarChild

"The religion that murdered them".


Pure fucking ignorance.

Pure fucking hatred.

People like him scare me way more then a handful of terrorist ever will.

[mrjoint]

How come this is not widely covered in the news. I would hate , yes HATE a fucking mosque anywhere near ground zero.

Wonder what would happen if a German cultural center was to open next to a Jewish temple.

I hate all religion.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by The Demon

Yup, if you forget 9/11. Those few radicals ruined it for the majority of the normal Muslims.

Ok so no white churches in the South because of the KKK then.

[WarChild]

No churches anywhere. Religion is a plague on Humanity. It just so happens Islam is the fastest spreading infection at the moment.

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by WarChild

No churches anywhere. Religion is a plague on Humanity. It just so happens Islam is the fastest spreading infection at the moment.

You DO realize that Stalin's atheistic and secular ways killed more people than religion ever did? But please, continue making retarded statements "Porn is a plague on humanity". See, we can all do it!

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by WarChild

No churches anywhere. Religion is a plague on Humanity. It just so happens Islam is the fastest spreading infection at the moment.

I dont know man, 7th Day Adventists and Scientologists are spreading pretty quick too!!! ;)

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by The Demon

You DO realize that Stalin's atheistic and secular ways killed more people than religion ever did? But please, continue making retarded statements "Porn is a plague on humanity". See, we can all do it!

[ProG]

I thought they were building a giant glass dick there?

[Huggles]

Originally Posted by WarChild

No churches anywhere. Religion is a plague on Humanity. It just so happens Islam is the fastest spreading infection at the moment.

I see a benefit to places of worship, to keep the sheeple in line!

Islam is an infection for sure. However, don't you see the extremes on both sides, east and west?

In the West, we think it's totally normal for a girl to take a 500 man gangbang on tape for money, in the east, they think it's normal for a woman to be uneducated and kept under and blanket.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by The Demon

You DO realize that Stalin's atheistic and secular ways killed more people than religion ever did?

really? what he kill? 20million people right? so less than that have died over all time spanning all religions?

cool factoid!

[dyna mo]

i mean not cool!

[WarChild]

Hawking: Religion will be defeated by science

There were some techies Monday who believed they experienced a sighting of God somewhere in San Francisco.

Those people might care to hark at deeply relevant news. God will be defeated by science. No, not by faltering Wi-Fi systems at a conference. And, no, these are not my words. This is the considered opinion of someone sometimes referred to as the cleverest man in the world, Stephen Hawking.

In an interview with ABC's Diane Sawyer, due to air Monday evening, Hawking expounded upon the largest questions, those that transcend iPhones and androids: Can science and God live happily ever after?

According to ABC News, Hawking first tried to define God in a way that he, as a scientist, might feel comfortable: "What could define God (is thinking of God) as the embodiment of the laws of nature. However, this is not what most people would think of that God," he said.

Indeed, he expressed disappointment at how humans have thought of deity.

"They made a human-like being with whom one can have a personal relationship. When you look at the vast size of the universe and how insignificant an accidental human life is in it, that seems most impossible," he said.

Perhaps there will be some who might conceive that stranger things have happened. Others will nod sagely, while still secretly hoping there is another life after this one. However, couldn't one imagine a point at which science and religion somehow meet, shake hands and positions and agree on a concord?

Hawking, who has already recommended that we should steer clear of aliens, suggested to Sawyer that this was somewhat less likely than North Korea winning the World Cup: "There is a fundamental difference between religion, which is based on authority, (and) science, which is based on observation and reason. Science will win because it works."

... http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20006990-71.html

Fortunately I have more faith in Mr Hawking than I do in crack pots like the demon.

[mayabong]

Originally Posted by The Demon

Yup, if you forget 9/11. Those few radicals ruined it for the majority of the normal Muslims.

Oh you're still spreading that lie?

Israel Did 9/11 all the proof in the world.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by The Demon

You DO realize that Stalin's atheistic and secular ways killed more people than religion ever did? But please, continue making retarded statements "Porn is a plague on humanity". See, we can all do it!

STFU retard. Really you really need to be banned for raping goats.

[dyna mo]

well, interesting read comparing #killed due to religion v. killed due to no religion.

i don't know how accurate it is, there seems to be little online info re: the totals.

http://www.newscholars.com/papers/Ki...%20Atheism.pdf

According to University of Hawaii
political scientist Rudolph J. Rummel,1 the total number killed in all of human history is
estimated to be about 284,638,000. Of that number, 151,491,000 were killed during the
past 100 years. The single largest killer in all of human history is, by far, atheistic
Communism with a total of 110,000,000 … over 1/3 of all people ever killed! If we add
to that number just two other regimes where religion of any sort was strongly
discouraged, Nazi Germany and Nationalist China, the number rises to 141,160,000.
Almost 50% of all the killings in human history were committed in the past 100 years by
regimes that either actively promoted atheism or strongly discouraged religion.

I've often heard is that religion has killed more people than
anything else, so the world would be a lot more peaceful place were it not for religion.
The top three largest examples are thought to be the Crusades of the Middle Ages, the
Spanish Inquisition, and the burning of witches. Scholars estimate that the Crusades of
the middle ages cost from 58,000 to 133,000 lives. The most realistic figure for the
Spanish Inquisition puts the total killed from AD1480 to AD1808 at up to 31,912.
Finally, records indicate that the number of witches killed may be over 30,000. Some
argue that records don't tell everything and suggest that maybe even 100,000 were killed.
These three events, totaling over 264,000 killed, are thought to be the largest atrocities
perpetrated by one or another form of Christendom.

[dyna mo]

i can't seem to find anything that even guesses how many have been killed over all time and all religions though.

and some believe stalin killed 60 million people, dang.

[rogueteens]

I'm with Richard on this, 911 wasn't an attack on any religion, it was an attack on American imperialism.

[Andy CHOOPA]

F that. That is blatant

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

really? what he kill? 20million people right? so less than that have died over all time spanning all religions?

cool factoid!

50 million people. Good guess though. Can't prove religion killed anywhere near that many

[The Demon]

Originally Posted by rogueteens

I'm with Richard on this, 911 wasn't an attack on any religion, it was an attack on American imperialism.

Totally. Because suicide bombings and Jihad are related to anything other than religion.


And Dynamo, I've seen all those numbers for people trying to justify the eradication of religion. It doesn't come close to the death toll of the absence of religion and/or secularism.

[Vendzilla]

OK, I remember this ass hole that wants to build this. He wants Sharia law to work within US law. So the people under it only have to follow Sharia law. If you sue one of them, you can't do it in a US court room, but in their court room, it's pretty fucked up and this ass hat is a religious nightmare. I say ship him back to whatever country he came from. They would not be subject to our laws at all!

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

OK, I remember this ass hole that wants to build this. He wants Sharia law to work within US law. So the people under it only have to follow Sharia law. If you sue one of them, you can't do it in a US court room, but in their court room, it's pretty fucked up and this ass hat is a religious nightmare. I say ship him back to whatever country he came from. They would not be subject to our laws at all!

i think sharia law is crazy as well.. they ahve this set up in Ontario and just wait till the first 'man kills wife due to infidelity'

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by The Demon

It doesn't come close to the death toll of the absence of religion and/or secularism.

i actually had no idea that this was the case.

[Scott McD]

I think we have more mosque's here in the UK than church's to be honest. They seem to be popping up everywhere...

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Scott McD

I think we have more mosque's here in the UK than church's to be honest. They seem to be popping up everywhere...

how often do you go to church?

mosques are cultural centers as much as religious ones.. we're comparing apples to oranges when it comes to comparing religious buildings of people in foreign countries

On the west coast, the chinese have 'family houses'

seemed they made a strategic decision not linking these 'houses' to their religion

[marketsmart]

Originally Posted by WarChild

No churches anywhere. Religion is a plague on Humanity. It just so happens Islam is the fastest spreading infection at the moment.

muslims and jews are filthy creatures.....









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[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by The Demon

Totally. Because suicide bombings and Jihad are related to anything other than religion.


And Dynamo, I've seen all those numbers for people trying to justify the eradication of religion. It doesn't come close to the death toll of the absence of religion and/or secularism.

i got a question for you

where did 'scalping' originate? Native Americans is what i'm referring too, fashionably so anyway

[ReGGs]

Freedom of religion. Let them build it. Either that or ban all religions.