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Old 06-14-2010, 02:58 AM   #1
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New Zealad bans Kosher butchering - JEWS Outraged

http://www.thejc.com/news/world-news...her-butchering


"Jews Outraged"

It could just be the standing headline on every media worldwide with a different subtext following it every damn day. Jews are always outraged. What are Jews doing in NZ anyway. Go to Israel and STFU.
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Seems like you have some racial hatred in your bones. Stereotyping a whole race is nothing short of ignorant.

What do you have against Jewish people? Are you german?
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Why do you ignore the subject?

It seems that that Jews are outraged just about everything. And why are they so belligerent towards everyone? They seem to stick their noses into everyone's business, always stirring shit.
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I don't care enough about the subject to debate it, and kind of agree to an extent. The sympathy card has been played out somewhat.
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That would include halal as well.
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Seems like you have some racial hatred in your bones. Stereotyping a whole race is nothing short of ignorant.

What do you have against Jewish people? Are you german?
Ignorants are those who overtop their customs above society rules & laws.
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Seems like you have some racial hatred in your bones. Stereotyping a whole race is nothing short of ignorant.

What do you have against Jewish people? Are you german?

LOL at this.
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LOL at this.
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Why do you ignore the subject?

It seems that that Jews are outraged just about everything. And why are they so belligerent towards everyone? They seem to stick their noses into everyone's business, always stirring shit.
What do you expect from most racist nationality in the world. Meant globaly, I'm not attacking individuals.
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I gues the 5 jews that live in NZ wil have to deal with it.
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"Jews Outraged"

It could just be the standing headline on every media worldwide with a different subtext following it every damn day. Jews are always outraged. What are Jews doing in NZ anyway. Go to Israel and STFU.

could be worse.... they could be trying to ban mosques ....in which case half of NZ would be in flames right now, and new zealanders all over the world would be hunted down by jihadists...


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Actually it does suck and they should be outraged.

Kosher butchering is not only their way of doing it, but its also one of the most humane ways of killing animals for food, another thing that makes Judaism more progressive than most religions IMO.

New Zealand needs to pull their head out.
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Seems like you have some racial hatred in your bones. Stereotyping a whole race is nothing short of ignorant.

What do you have against Jewish people? Are you german?
i count that as an insult to a whole race! i AM german and care a fuck about ethnic groups - all i see are HUMANS!
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i count that as an insult to a whole race! i AM german and care a fuck about ethnic groups - all i see are HUMANS!
LOL. What part of irony don't you understand? Oh, hang on, german, I may have to spell it out.
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it is a barbaric practice. sacrificing your children to god was banned. so should this.
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gentiles always say that. but there is vigorous debate within the judaic community about this.
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Why do you ignore the subject?

It seems that that Jews are outraged just about everything. And why are they so belligerent towards everyone? They seem to stick their noses into everyone's business, always stirring shit.
The Jews enraged about one of their main customs getting shut down? Omg the horror, those kykes! No seriously the guy above is right. You're an idiot with some kind of racial hatred, which is why your posts and threads aren't taken seriously.
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Lol it's ok, they're the bottom feeders of society so let them argue.
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it is a barbaric practice. sacrificing your children to god was banned. so should this.
What the hell? Please explain how one has any relevance to the other? Good GOD you're stupid.
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Actually it does suck and they should be outraged.

Kosher butchering is not only their way of doing it, but its also one of the most humane ways of killing animals for food, another thing that makes Judaism more progressive than most religions IMO.

New Zealand needs to pull their head out.
how can you say its progressive when they're killing it the way they've been told to from a book thousands of years old?

infact i would call it backward to only eat food that the bible tells you is ok and/or has been prepared in a special way.
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how can you say its progressive when they're killing it the way they've been told to from a book thousands of years old?

infact i would call it backward to only eat food that the bible tells you is ok and/or has been prepared in a special way.
So because it's from a time that isn't now, it's backward? Lol. I don't think you understand what progressive means. It means positively moving forward, not just moving forward. The Jews have survived for 4,000+ years and many exterminations, living through their "book". I think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt over the hilarious idea of secular humanism.
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how can you say its progressive when they're killing it the way they've been told to from a book thousands of years old?

infact i would call it backward to only eat food that the bible tells you is ok and/or has been prepared in a special way.
heh..you're kidding me right? impossible to be progressive because its thousands of years old. I mean Jesus Christ man... (you see what i did there?)

Its a fact kosher preparation of meat is not only more humane but the meat actually tastes better. Why? Because the animals do not die in fear. In the typical butchering practice animals are basically tortured until death, thus sending loads of adrenalin coursing thru their bodies which works its way into the meat you eat.

With kosher they do not die in fear, they are much more relaxed and so the meat tastes better.

When ever i bought hot dogs i always bought hebrew national...way better than any other for this reason.
http://www.chineseop.com/cuisine/Kos...tchering-.html
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What the hell? Please explain how one has any relevance to the other? Good GOD you're stupid.
fuck you're stupid. stop replying to me.
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fuck you're stupid. stop replying to me.
Hey, look at the little retard parrot my posts. You are one dumb kid, but your posts are amusing. Now please respond with exactly what I said Dumbass
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Anyone who has doubts about the progressive nature of Judaism should see this-
Judaism 101 - http://www.jewfaq.org/animals.htm

GFY animal lovers will dig it as well.
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So because it's from a time that isn't now, it's backward? Lol. I don't think you understand what progressive means. It means positively moving forward, not just moving forward. The Jews have survived for 4,000+ years and many exterminations, living through their "book". I think I'll give them the benefit of the doubt over the hilarious idea of secular humanism.
yeah its backward following what some book says rather than thinking for yourself. why don't they eat pork for example if its not because they're told not to by their religion? its not for any health reasons, maybe it was thousands of years ago but not now.
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The rabbi quoted in the article is probably correct, that it's some dumbass clerical error.

Did captain kirk ever stun a pig before vaporizing it? No. Not even once.
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yeah its backward following what some book says rather than thinking for yourself. why don't they eat pork for example if its not because they're told not to by their religion? its not for any health reasons, maybe it was thousands of years ago but not now.
So what you're saying is, you have no idea the logic behind the idea of "kosher", and you're just spouting typical anti religious bullshit. Think for yourself? Oh yea, you secular humanists have done a WONDERFUL job with that one in the past few hundred years. You're ignorant enough to think religious people follow something just because "they're told to", furthering your ignorance on the subject.
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It was more humane thousands of years ago, compared to the alternative of whacking animals to death with sticks or whatever.

Now it's pretty cruel compared to modern methods.
Stunning the animal first is actually more in keeping with the original spirit.

But most religious followers will typically bullshit themselves that halal or kosher is still more humane whatever the scientists say ..
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It was more humane thousands of years ago, compared to the alternative of whacking animals to death with sticks or whatever.

Now it's pretty cruel compared to modern methods.
Stunning the animal first is actually more in keeping with the original spirit.

But most religious followers will typically bullshit themselves that halal or kosher is still more humane whatever the scientists say ..
pretty cruel compared to modern methods? go to a slaughter house friend, you will soon change your mind. the animals live under insane, torturous conditions until they are killed, stunned beforehand or not.
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yeah its backward following what some book says rather than thinking for yourself. why don't they eat pork for example if its not because they're told not to by their religion? its not for any health reasons, maybe it was thousands of years ago but not now.
A lot of non-Jews eat kosher only as well.
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Are we assuming that we know what the stun feels like? Every time I see a human stunned, they fall to the ground and flop around with no muscle control. I'm sure a massive plume of pure fear blooms in their minds while they realise they can't control their own body.
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But most religious followers will typically bullshit themselves that halal or kosher is still more humane whatever the scientists say ..
Bullshit themselves? You mean provide valid reasons for doing so, while your only argument is "oh well religion is bullshit!!" The ignorance of this place makes me giggle.
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So what you're saying is, you have no idea.
ok, so explain why people who follow a strict kosher diet don't eat pork, other than because they're following what they're told to do from their bible?
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Actually it does suck and they should be outraged.

Kosher butchering is not only their way of doing it, but its also one of the most humane ways of killing animals for food, another thing that makes Judaism more progressive than most religions IMO.

New Zealand needs to pull their head out.
LOL at "progressive religion".
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I use to think "Thou shalt not murder" was pretty humane. Then I opened this thread and learned that things from thousand years ago are barbaric.
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Bullshit themselves? You mean provide valid reasons for doing so, while your only argument is "oh well religion is bullshit!!" The ignorance of this place makes me giggle.

Here is your proof.
Not that it will make any difference. Because your particular fairy story MUST be right, right?

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...laughter.html?

"The researchers then showed that the pain originates from cutting throat nerves, not from the loss of blood, suggesting the severed nerves send pain signals until the time of death. Finally, they stunned animals 5 seconds after incision and showed that this makes the pain signal disappear instantly.

"It wasn't a surprise to me, but in terms of the religious community, they are adamant animals don't experience any pain, so the results might be a surprise to them," says Johnson"
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heh..you're kidding me right? impossible to be progressive because its thousands of years old. I mean Jesus Christ man... (you see what i did there?)
You understand what the word 'progressive' means, right?
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Its a fact kosher preparation of meat is not only more humane but the meat actually tastes better. Why? Because the animals do not die in fear. In the typical butchering practice animals are basically tortured until death, thus sending loads of adrenalin coursing thru their bodies which works its way into the meat you eat.

With kosher they do not die in fear, they are much more relaxed and so the meat tastes better.
And yet somehow many of them are dangling in the air drowning in their own blood because they can't breathe. I'm sure there is no fear involved in that.

Trying to justify it by claiming it is more humane is stupid. Slaughter is slaughter.

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The spinal cord is still intact, which means pain signals are still transmitted to the body. I can claim I have a 14 inch cock and fuck super models every night. Just because they claim it is more humane and painless, doesn't make it so.
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Here is your proof.
Not that it will make any difference. Because your particular fairy story MUST be right, right?

http://www.newscientist.com/article/...laughter.html?

"The researchers then showed that the pain originates from cutting throat nerves, not from the loss of blood, suggesting the severed nerves send pain signals until the time of death. Finally, they stunned animals 5 seconds after incision and showed that this makes the pain signal disappear instantly.

"It wasn't a surprise to me, but in terms of the religious community, they are adamant animals don't experience any pain, so the results might be a surprise to them," says Johnson"
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That's all I really had to read before I realize that to you, "do appear" means "they definitely feel pain!! Talk about fairy tales rofl.

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Old 06-14-2010, 10:15 AM   #45
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You understand what the word 'progressive' means, right?


And yet somehow many of them are dangling in the air drowning in their own blood because they can't breathe. I'm sure there is no fear involved in that.

Trying to justify it by claiming it is more humane is stupid. Slaughter is slaughter.
The death is quick and relatively painless, and the animals do not spend their lives in fear and torture. Once again go to a standard slaughterhouse and get back to me on "humane."


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I can claim I have a 14 inch cock and fuck super models every night. Just because they claim it is more humane and painless, doesn't make it so.
You do know the meaning of analogy right, cuz thats about the most dim witted comparison i've ever read.
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