Az business raid

[brassmonkey]

"Arizona's sweeping new immigration law doesn't even take effect until next month, but lawmakers in nearly 20 other states are already clamoring to follow in its footsteps."
clean this bitch up!

EL MIRAGE and YOUNGTOWN, Ariz. -- Maricopa County sheriff's deputies on Friday morning converged on two business locations -- one in El Mirage and another in Youngtown -- as part of an investigation into possibly identity theft and fraud.

The first raid happened at a sanitation company owned by Parks & Sons of Sun City. That business is located near U.S. 60 and Thunderbird Road. That location is the company's maintenance yard.

Between 40 and 50 deputies and posse members armed with search warrants descended on the facility early Friday morning.

Aerial video showed deputies going into and out of the building, several of them carrying what appeared to be evidence bags.

The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office reportedly received a couple of anonymous tips from workers several months ago indicating that the company employed suspected undocumented immigrants who had used stolen identities or false documents to get their jobs. The company has been under investigation for about six months.

Deputies said they were looking for seven suspected illegal immigrants. Those seven people have been taken into custody, including one who reportedly jumped over a fence in an effort to get away, said Sheriff Joe Arpaio.



The family of one of the men taken into custody said the father of six had worked at Parks & Sons for 15 years. They believe the sheriff's raids are unfair and target people who are just trying to make a living.

Investigators talked to about 40 other employees at the El Mirage location.

"We have information on seven [suspects], but there's a few others we don't have information on," Arpaio said. "They're still here illegally. We'll deal with them."

The other raid location was in Youngtown near Grand and 111th avenues. That is the main office of Parks & Sons of Sun City, which employs about 100 people and has been doing business in the Valley since 1964.

Deputies said the raid was going smoothly and everybody was cooperating. Arpaio said his team was trying to determine if Parks & Sons knowingly hire the suspected illegal immigrants.

"We accomplish our mission by taking off the streets people that committed Class 4 felonies by using other peoples' identification," Arpaio said. "That should be the big story. ... What about the false identification they [the suspects] are using? That's why we're number one in the nation for ... stealing peoples' identities. ... Most of them [the suspects], either they steal someone's Social Security number and use those, and you know how it is when y our ID is stolen, how long it takes to get that rectified."

Some say that having 40 to 50 deputies and posse members involved in the raid was a waste of resources. Arpaio vehemently disagreed.

"Why does everybody talk about me using resources?" he asked. "Actually, I should have had more out here because we had people escape. I should have put more people out here. I don't care about the critics. I know how to run this organization."

MCSO has conducted dozens of raids like this morning's operation since the employer sanctions law went into effect.

"This is our 36th investigation, going into workplaces," Arpaio said. "One hundred percent of the people we arrest, almost, are here illegally."

Arpaio said his office has "a list" of businesses currently under investigation for allegedly employing suspected undocumented immigrants.

According to MCSO, two of the suspect taken into custody Friday morning are suspected of committing identity theft. One was wanted on an outstanding warrant.

The remains four suspects were suspected of being in the country illegally and were turned over to ICE. That process will soon change with the imminent implementation of Senate Bill 1070, due to go into effect on July 29. Arpaio said he's looking forward to that.

"With the new law, I'm going to put them in jail. They're not going to be turned over to ICE," Arpaio said. "I will enforce that new law because it gives me the authority now to arrest those that we have no other crime on."

MCSO said the investigation into Parker & Sons will continue as sheriff's deputies are looking for several other employees suspected of committing identity theft.

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

"They're coming here to arrest people that are here working..how come he doesn't go to the border and or to somewhere to arrest criminals,” said Maria Ruiz, the wife of a Parks & Sons employee who was taken in by deputies.

“People that are on the streets. I have six kids! So what's gonna happen now?"

Hopefully your illegal ass will be dragged back to Mexico where you belong.

[Vendzilla]

I see that Obama put a new guy in charge of ICE that's for sanctuary cities.

What a fucking joke that is?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Hopefully your illegal ass will be dragged back to Mexico where you belong.

amen brother. the jobs are drying up and hopefully we can get the law in every state.

[Sly]

I would think that 15 years should be enough time to attain legal status.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Vendzilla

I see that Obama put a new guy in charge of ICE that's for sanctuary cities.

What a fucking joke that is?

there will be no sanctuary in Az. i think its time to attack the belly of the beast california. this shit is just wrong.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Sly

I would think that 15 years should be enough time to attain legal status.

Hard to get legal status when you are already breaking the law

But yeah, if he started off right, he very well could have gotten legal status in that time.

[Elli]

50 deputies and how many man hours to arrest 7 people? Why don't they just come down on employers harder to make sure there are no jobs for illegals? Oh wait, that's anti-business.

[charlie g]

Dude has 6 children and was a garbage man? Tell me they are living not on government assistance. I have 2 children and I am almost there and I make a helluva lot more than a garbage man.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Elli

50 deputies and how many man hours to arrest 7 people? Why don't they just come down on employers harder to make sure there are no jobs for illegals? Oh wait, that's anti-business.

these are felony arrest it can turn ugly quick.

[Elli]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

these are felony arrest it can turn ugly quick.

"Arpaio said his office has "a list" of businesses currently under investigation for allegedly employing suspected undocumented immigrants.

According to MCSO, two of the suspect taken into custody Friday morning are suspected of committing identity theft. One was wanted on an outstanding warrant.

The remaining four suspects were suspected of being in the country illegally and were turned over to ICE"

Only 2 were wanted on identity theft charges. NO mention of fines to the employer or other deterrents. What stops them from hiring more illegals? If they end up getting arrested, the company just doesn't have to send them a final cheque, right? More free/cheap labour for them!

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Sly

I would think that 15 years should be enough time to attain legal status.

Fuck no. It should earn them a prison sentence. That's fifteen years of not paying taxes, driving illegally, being here illegally, driving without insurance, etc etc etc etc. Someone who has been in the US fifteen years illegally has broken so many laws it's not funny.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by charlie g

Dude has 6 children and was a garbage man? Tell me they are living not on government assistance. I have 2 children and I am almost there and I make a helluva lot more than a garbage man.

Average starting pay for a garbage man in California is $60k a year.

[IllTestYourGirls]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Fuck no. It should earn them a prison sentence. That's fifteen years of not paying taxes, driving illegally, being here illegally, driving without insurance, etc etc etc etc. Someone who has been in the US fifteen years illegally has broken so many laws it's not funny.

Thats not how I understood what he said. I took it as if he had done it legally he could have been legal by now. But I could be totally wrong

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Fuck no. It should earn them a prison sentence. That's fifteen years of not paying taxes, driving illegally, being here illegally, driving without insurance, etc etc etc etc. Someone who has been in the US fifteen years illegally has broken so many laws it's not funny.

Take a deep breathe and read again.

[charlie g]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Average starting pay for a garbage man in California is $60k a year.

6 KIDS!!!!!!! Unless they are living in a box or he sneaks them back across the border to work in a Nike plant, chances are they have their hand out.

And, average pay in AZ is 32k link

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Fuck no. It should earn them a prison sentence. That's fifteen years of not paying taxes, driving illegally, being here illegally, driving without insurance, etc etc etc etc. Someone who has been in the US fifteen years illegally has broken so many laws it's not funny.

and how do you know he has'nt paid taxes and everything else in the mean time ?? He's doing a job most people in your country wouldnt want to do !!! This whole illegal immigration thing, is a pile of steaming BULLSHIT !!!

[Sly]

Originally Posted by JFK

and how do you know he has'nt paid taxes and everything else in the mean time ?? He's doing a job most people in your country wouldnt want to do !!! This whole illegal immigration thing, is a pile of steaming BULLSHIT !!!

Yeh, I have no idea why they think it's such an issue. Arizona doesn't even border Mexico. Now if Texas were to pass a law like this, that would be worth a second look. Bordering state and all.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Sly

Arizona doesn't even border Mexico.

what are you smoking? crabs perhaps

[Sly]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

what are you smoking? crabs perhaps

I voted for Peggy West.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3ZEv1T15RcY

[Redrob]

Big article in newspaper today about illegals packing up and leaving AZ. Most seem to be headed to California and New Mexico; but, the are definitely getting out of town.

[Ron Bennett]

Originally Posted by Sly

Yeh, I have no idea why they think it's such an issue. Arizona doesn't even border Mexico. Now if Texas were to pass a law like this, that would be worth a second look. Bordering state and all.

Arizona is is border state. Has 370 miles of border with Mexico.

In regards to the raids ... it's all show.

If the government (talking both state and federal) was serious about immigration, they would go after employers with massive fines and stiff prison sentences.

Ron

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

Arizona is is border state. Has 370 miles of border with Mexico.

In regards to the raids ... it's all show.

If the government (talking both state and federal) was serious about immigration, they would go after employers with massive fines and stiff prison sentences.

Ron

well now is time to count the money decades of republican bullshitting regan and amnesty.

[TheDoc]

Originally Posted by Ron Bennett

Arizona is is border state. Has 370 miles of border with Mexico.

In regards to the raids ... it's all show.

If the government (talking both state and federal) was serious about immigration, they would go after employers with massive fines and stiff prison sentences.

Ron

Try watching the video... he was making a funny, https://youtube.com/watch?v=3ZEv1T15RcY

[mozadek]

Welcome to Obama's America.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Try watching the video... he was making a funny, https://youtube.com/watch?v=3ZEv1T15RcY

the people that elected her are fucking dumb asses. my kids know that Az borders mexico lord i hope she doesnt have kids!

what are those things on south park those goofy creatures

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by mozadek

Welcome to Obama's America.

if you think obama started this your crazy. the bush family have been war happy fools. what countries has obama invaded? pick up a book

[Nikki_Licks]

Good to hear, go Joe

I was down by 36th st and Thomas area the other day and all the scum that use to trash the neighborhood and Home depot are all gone to include their broken down autos.....even the trashy apartments are repainted and have for lease signs up.

Maybe California will welcome them with open arms

[Agent 488]

cool. next send all the blacks back to africa.

[DBS.US]

Originally Posted by Sly

Arizona doesn't even border Mexico.

[MetaMan]

Good send them back!

took my dad 15 years to become a citizen.

[Amputate Your Head]

"One hundred percent of the people we arrest, almost, are here illegally."

Is it 100% or is it "almost" ?

I hope the people wrongfully arrested for simply going to work sue them for every dime they can.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

"One hundred percent of the people we arrest, almost, are here illegally."

Is it 100% or is it "almost" ?

I hope the people wrongfully arrested for simply going to work sue them for every dime they can.

he didnt say almost i watched the live interview. that's the thing it's called an investigation. if illegals stop working here we wont have a fucking problem.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by Sly

Yeh, I have no idea why they think it's such an issue. Arizona doesn't even border Mexico. Now if Texas were to pass a law like this, that would be worth a second look. Bordering state and all.

In Obamas United States there are 58 states.(He said he's been to 57 and 1 to go)
Possibly one or more of those is between AZ and Mexico

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

cool. next send all the blacks back to africa.

pick up a book blacks are not illegals(in the country illegally). their ancestors were released as slaves in the united states.

[Dvae]

Originally Posted by Sly

I voted for Peggy West.

Damn, Sly look at the can worms you opened! I guess they don't get the sarcasm.
Some people don't get out much.

[smax]

Originally Posted by Elli

50 deputies and how many man hours to arrest 7 people? Why don't they just come down on employers harder to make sure there are no jobs for illegals? Oh wait, that's anti-business.

The government absolutely needs to to come down hard on businesses that hire illegals but first they need to set up a system for employers to verify potential employers are legal.

Sure some businesses knowingly hire illegals and pay under the table and then there are those that take the fake documents and don't know better. With photoshop, laser printers do you think Flo in HR can tell the difference between a fake document and a real one.

Hell just make social security flag and investigate all duplicate or wrong SS#'s being turned in via company tax records.

[erehwon]

Originally Posted by charlie g

6 KIDS!!!!!!! Unless they are living in a box or he sneaks them back across the border to work in a Nike plant, chances are they have their hand out.[/URL]

You should see some of the orthodox Jewish families around here, they drive around in Dodge Sprinter vans with their whole brood, don't seem to be living in a box, and there's no borders around here.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by smax

The government absolutely needs to to come down hard on businesses that hire illegals but first they need to set up a system for employers to verify potential employers are legal.

Sure some businesses knowingly hire illegals and pay under the table and then there are those that take the fake documents and don't know better. With photoshop, laser printers do you think Flo in HR can tell the difference between a fake document and a real one.

Hell just make social security flag and investigate all duplicate or wrong SS#'s being turned in via company tax records.

these businesses are not dumb. If your employee can't hold a conversation with you, that's a red flag right there.

[V_RocKs]

this has nothing to do with the new law... these raids go on in LA all day long... They even go on in Ohio and northern states where people go to try and escape the raids.

[ASW]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Hopefully your illegal ass will be dragged back to Mexico where you belong.

hahaha right

[ASW]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

cool. next send all the blacks back to africa.

thats fucked up hahaha

[ASW]

Originally Posted by mozadek

Welcome to Obama's America.

hahaha he has alot of bullshit from what G. Bush fucked up so yea

[Honez]

Originally Posted by JFK

and how do you know he has'nt paid taxes and everything else in the mean time ?? He's doing a job most people in your country wouldnt want to do !!! This whole illegal immigration thing, is a pile of steaming BULLSHIT !!!

Actually, I have to disagree with you. Having lived in Arizona I can tell you it is a problem. Perhaps not so much in the taking of jobs but, in the fact that most are not like the 15 year garbage man. They work day labor jobs or for employers that pay them under the table and do not pay taxes. Then they send their 6 + kids to public schools which are funded by people that do pay taxes. A lot of them do steal identities as well and then cash in on the Social Security benefits that do NOT belong to them.

It is called an illegal citizen because it is against the law. Period. If they want to live in our country then by all means, live here but, do it the right way.

[Sly]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

this has nothing to do with the new law... these raids go on in LA all day long... They even go on in Ohio and northern states where people go to try and escape the raids.

This is true. I'm in the midwest. About a year ago they raided a chicken factory, 50 illegals.

[$5 submissions]

Originally Posted by Elli

50 deputies and how many man hours to arrest 7 people? Why don't they just come down on employers harder to make sure there are no jobs for illegals? Oh wait, that's anti-business.

That would dry up demand, definitely. The problem is: are people willing to pay the full economic price of sealing off the labor market to cheap illegal labor?

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by $5 submissions

That would dry up demand, definitely. The problem is: are people willing to pay the full economic price of sealing off the labor market to cheap illegal labor?

how many fucking times do i have to say it. it cost more than its bringing in. their working cheap ass jobs with no benefits. which means they will need medical. what fuckin cheap ass job can pay your rent,medical,car? man you should live here all the amber alerts home invasions illegals calling because the smuggler wants more money. man i can name more shit seen most all of it.

[charlie g]

Originally Posted by erehwon

You should see some of the orthodox Jewish families around here, they drive around in Dodge Sprinter vans with their whole brood, don't seem to be living in a box, and there's no borders around here.

OK, show me 1 orthodox jew picking up trash. More likely he is a diamond broker or owns the waste company. Nothing wrong with a big family if you pay the bill. But illegals with big families rarely pay the bill, the taxpayer does. Next time, compare an apple to an apple.

[Tom_PM]

I also have "a list". It's of groceries I need to buy. I wrote the list on "some paper". I call this "list" on "paper" my "grocery list". I'm "using quotation marks" in odd places that "seem to" make no sense. "Just" like in "the" articl"e".

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by PR_Tom

I also have "a list". It's of groceries I need to buy. I wrote the list on "some paper". I call this "list" on "paper" my "grocery list". I'm "using quotation marks" in odd places that "seem to" make no sense. "Just" like in "the" articl"e".

what list