its not tubes killing adult - its SPONSORS!

[Overload]

everybody yells about tubes killing their sales, but lets have a look at what sponsors do ... serious, didnt you notice they all cater to tube content? some totally "forget" about affiliates with (some big, some small) "old school" sites - in this case MGPs ... all they add to their promo content is STREAMING shit!!! before i fall for this "tube snake boogie" i quit promoting them! FUCK YOU idiotic sponsors offering only streams! YOU narrow down who promotes you by slacking in offering various formats! you DESERVE to go down! i dont name them, you will get it anyways

and NO! i am too COOL to adapt to SHIT!

[TeenCat]

any some sites are not updated anymore

[Yanks_Todd]

there are some great sponsors out there still. Another issue is the amount of affiliates that will only push sponsors paying $45 PPS for crap sites that we all know don't retain.

The whole industry is transitioning. So instead of calling out the bad ones why not look for some of the truly good ones out there.

The easiest way to start is to look beyond the PPS and at the actually product you are promoting second tier.

[seeandsee]

i just want honest sponsor who pay on time

[Barry-xlovecam]

At xlovecam and ACWM, xlovecam's Affiliate program;

1.) We have chosen NOT to the do the "tube snake boogie" (as Overlord refers to the deception) as a policy decision.

2.) We pay our affiliates promptly (as you request seeandsee).

We may have some imperfections, but poor affiliate and customer relations are not among them.

[colin farrell]

people dont want their content all over the internet. streaming locks it down and deters dirty affiliates. you may not be one, but there are tons.

[mafia_man]

You mean sponsors like LiveJasmine who support Tubes and torrent sites?

[Wizzo]

Smartbucks just added new TGP and MGP galleries today and plan to have new ones once a week... Here's a sample from todays update.

[sortie]

Originally Posted by Overload

everybody yells about tubes killing their sales, but lets have a look at what sponsors do ... serious, didnt you notice they all cater to tube content? some totally "forget" about affiliates with (some big, some small) "old school" sites - in this case MGPs ... all they add to their promo content is STREAMING shit!!! before i fall for this "tube snake boogie" i quit promoting them! FUCK YOU idiotic sponsors offering only streams! YOU narrow down who promotes you by slacking in offering various formats! you DESERVE to go down! i dont name them, you will get it anyways

and NO! i am too COOL to adapt to SHIT!

OK, but did they do that on purpose or did they have to go with the flow?

A lot of old time affiliates that had medium to small traffic have folded but these affiliates
used to collectively send a good amount of sign ups. With all those affiliates gone, did
they really have a choice in changing?

[Overload]

Originally Posted by sortie

OK, but did they do that on purpose or did they have to go with the flow?

A lot of old time affiliates that had medium to small traffic have folded but these affiliates
used to collectively send a good amount of sign ups. With all those affiliates gone, did
they really have a choice in changing?

err, maybe those affiliates folded BECAUSE their sponsors seized providing suitable content for the affiliates sites?

[Overload]

Originally Posted by colin farrell

people dont want their content all over the internet. streaming locks it down and deters dirty affiliates. you may not be one, but there are tons.

hello?! we are talking about promo content as in 20 or 30 secs clips

[GrouchyAdmin]

Originally Posted by Overload

err, maybe those affiliates folded BECAUSE their sponsors seized providing suitable content for the affiliates sites?

Wait.

So it's the sponsors at fault for first giving too much content (self hosted), and then not giving adequate content for promotion WITHOUT being able to control it themselves? How many spoons have you hit already, today?

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Overload

its not tubes killing adult - its SPONSORS!

True dat.

Welcome to the revolution.

[Overload]

Originally Posted by GrouchyAdmin

Wait.

So it's the sponsors at fault for first giving too much content (self hosted), and then not giving adequate content for promotion WITHOUT being able to control it themselves? How many spoons have you hit already, today?

sorry, but it looks like you totally missed my point?

[madfuck]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

i just want honest sponsor who pay on time

we pay on time

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by sortie

OK, but did they do that on purpose or did they have to go with the flow?

A lot of old time affiliates that had medium to small traffic have folded but these affiliates
used to collectively send a good amount of sign ups. With all those affiliates gone, did
they really have a choice in changing?

Agreed.
I don't like tubes anymore than the next guy but hey, that's where the traffic is. It's like the hot girls are on the left, the ugly on the right, and you are on the right complaining there are no hot chicks. Try the left.
We still do our best to provide all our affiliates with what they need. Alot of man hours goes into that process, and you are right. Many affiliates did 1-3 joins a day, but there were tons. They were wiped out by tubes/forums.

Be like water my friend.
ds

[PGR]

[QUOTE=DukeSkywalker;17330575]Agreed.
I don't like tubes anymore than the next guy but hey, that's where the traffic is. It's like the hot girls are on the left, the ugly on the right, and you are on the right complaining there are no hot chicks. Try the left.
We still do our best to provide all our affiliates with what they need. Alot of man hours goes into that process, and you are right. Many affiliates did 1-3 joins a day, but there were tons. They were wiped out by tubes/forums.

Be like water my friend.

[peruviantalk]

http://orlydb.com/s/xxx

Oh, trust me is tubes killing porn.

Copy + Paste

[Jack Sparrow]

i love the sponsors i work with, they are always there for me for custom banners and creatives

[SomeCreep]

I think we've gotten to the point where everything is killing everything.

[maxxtro]

No no no...its George Bush!

[mikke]

someone can tell... adapt or die.

[boneless]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

Smartbucks just added new TGP and MGP galleries today and plan to have new ones once a week... Here's a sample from todays update.

Epic spam fail????

he rants about streaming content and what do you post a gallery with streaming content

[Klen]

Originally Posted by boneless

Epic spam fail????

he rants about streaming content and what do you post a gallery with streaming content

And since when affiliate manager was example of intelligence

[Miz_Wright]

Originally Posted by Overload

everybody yells about tubes killing their sales, but lets have a look at what sponsors do ... serious, didnt you notice they all cater to tube content? some totally "forget" about affiliates with (some big, some small) "old school" sites - in this case MGPs ... all they add to their promo content is STREAMING shit!!! before i fall for this "tube snake boogie" i quit promoting them! FUCK YOU idiotic sponsors offering only streams! YOU narrow down who promotes you by slacking in offering various formats! you DESERVE to go down! i dont name them, you will get it anyways

and NO! i am too COOL to adapt to SHIT!

This begs the question: if you don't want content that will garner eyes (read: streaming and/or visually compelling) as promotional tools, what do you want from a sponsor?

You want galleries for MGPs, it looks like.

The data demonstrates that a significant number of users access adult materials through broadband or high-speed wireless connections - and those numbers are growing. Those users are drawn towards content they can sample. Much like music: If I have never heard a song from an album, I am unlikely to buy it.

So I ask: what is it that you really want from sponsors to help move your individual business and the industry as a whole forward?

[boneless]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

This begs the question: if you don't want content that will garner eyes (read: streaming and/or visually compelling) as promotional tools, what do you want from a sponsor?

You want galleries for MGPs, it looks like.

The data demonstrates that a significant number of users access adult materials through broadband or high-speed wireless connections - and those numbers are growing. Those users are drawn towards content they can sample. Much like music: If I have never heard a song from an album, I am unlikely to buy it.

So I ask: what is it that you really want from sponsors to help move your individual business and the industry as a whole forward?

good example would be galleries with streaming content that can actually be scanned by the various tgp software out there and can be made into a thumbnail. a simple hidden div with four thumbs linked to bogus wmv files will do the trick, that way the old school mgp webmaster can also enjoy the benefits of the new school way of content delivery ;)

[boneless]

Originally Posted by LizAEBN

This begs the question: if you don't want content that will garner eyes (read: streaming and/or visually compelling) as promotional tools, what do you want from a sponsor?

You want galleries for MGPs, it looks like.

The data demonstrates that a significant number of users access adult materials through broadband or high-speed wireless connections - and those numbers are growing. Those users are drawn towards content they can sample. Much like music: If I have never heard a song from an album, I am unlikely to buy it.

So I ask: what is it that you really want from sponsors to help move your individual business and the industry as a whole forward?

btw liz on aebn im not able to make any decent export files for the hosted galleries in a few niches, when i do a normal view online export it works, but when i want a pipe delimited list it give me zero results.

[CashOnClick]

We cater for the old school webmaster and TGP / MGP sites and our galleries work with TGPX and others just fine, we have 11,900+ MGP galleries and 8,600+ TGP galleries, that was at my last count there is about 120 new ones of each getting added every Monday also !

A MGP example from last week Tori Black - http://join.clubkellyerikson.com/gal...15.0.30276.0.0

And a TGP example from last week Nikki Benz - http://join.clubkellyerikson.com/gal...15.0.30395.0.0

We are currently working on getting 2min FLV's made for blog posting also.

Link to Cash On Click is in my sig, If you would like to have a chat though my ICQ : 496-686-944 ... Thanks

[Agent 488]

shut up retard.

[Miz_Wright]

Originally Posted by boneless

good example would be galleries with streaming content that can actually be scanned by the various tgp software out there and can be made into a thumbnail. a simple hidden div with four thumbs linked to bogus wmv files will do the trick, that way the old school mgp webmaster can also enjoy the benefits of the new school way of content delivery ;)

Originally Posted by boneless

btw liz on aebn im not able to make any decent export files for the hosted galleries in a few niches, when i do a normal view online export it works, but when i want a pipe delimited list it give me zero results.

Tanks for the feedback - the more feedback we get, the more likely we are to be able to meet your needs - I can't make any promises, because I know we have so many exciting projects in the pipeline, but if I don't have the feedback, I certainly can't help!

Do you mind touching base with me on ICQ so I can see about helping you? Thanks so much - I look forward to working with you