Bryci, Talia Shepard, Katie Banks and Ava Dawn are banned from Pichunter - GoFuckYourself.com

TarPy · 07-16-2010, 11:31 AM

Sorry to all krawl submitters. Because Bryci's webmaster is pushing DMCA issues, we are removing all images of her from the website. Our apologies for your lost traffic, talk to their program.

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Originally Posted by ByciSupport

You have several images of ours on your server. We understand you grab
feeds from other sites, but that won't keep your out of the court
room. We can still sue you for theft and copyright infringement all
the same, ask a lawyer, we have.

Remove all our images, clips, video feeds at once or yes, we will go
legal on this.

1. Identify the copyrighted work that you claim has been infringed,
or-if multiple copyrighted works are covered by this Notice-you may
provide a representative list of the copyrighted works that you claim
have been infringed.

I own the full copyrights to these images as the photographer and
business owner.

http://bryci.com

2. Identify the material or link you claim is infringing (or the
subject of infringing activity) and that access to which is to be
disabled, including at a minimum, if applicable, the URL of the link
where such material may be found.

www.bryci.com is where all the content is stolen from. Again, on your
servers, the link needing to be removed is:

http://www.cliphunter.com/streams/se...=bryci&x=0&y=0

http://www.cliphunter.com/w/657019/Cam:_Busty_Bryci
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/653397/C...y_Bryci_Webcam
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/657017/Cam:_28FF_Bryci
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/653397/C...y_Bryci_Webcam
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/651134/Cam:_Bryci_on_Cam
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/645819/C...rips_on_Webcam
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/653401/Cam:_Bryci_Boobs
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/653398/C...yci_28FF_Boobs
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/652197/C...y_Breasts_Bare
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/645813/C...uggs_on_Webcam
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/645818/C...uggs_on_Webcam
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/654119/C...eautiful_Boobs
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/654123/big_28FF_boobs
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/651135/C...ci_Webcam_Show
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/651134/Cam:_Bryci_on_Cam
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/655581/C...F_Teen_Boobies
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/645814/C...ci_Mesh_Webcam
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/657019/Cam:_Busty_Bryci

3. Provide your mailing address, telephone number, and, if available,
email address.

Steve ****
*****************
Calgary, Alberta, Canada
T2W1V3
403-***-****
[email protected]

4. Include both of the following statements in the body of the Notice:

I hereby state that I have a good faith belief that the disputed use
of the copyrighted material is not authorized by the copyright owner,
its agent, or the law (e.g., as a fair use)

I hereby state that the information in this Notice is accurate and,
under penalty of perjury, that I am the owner, or authorized to act on
behalf of the owner, of the copyright or of an exclusive right under
the copyright that is allegedly infringed.

5. Provide your full legal name and your electronic or physical signature.

I, Steve Owen hereby give my electronic signature that I own copyright

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Originally Posted by petr

ME: Your letter is very unproffesional. If you have a lawyer like you wrote, I suggest you pay him/her $100 to construct a proffesional looking letter next time.

Other than that, your content, has been of course removed as soon as we recieved your email. The removal process may take up to 10 minutes to clear from all the server cache.

Let me know if you find any more content you own, we will surely remove it.

Regards,
Petr

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Originally Posted by BryciSupport

http://www.cliphunter.com/streams/search/?q=bryci&x=0&y=0

this still exists and the images still exist.

Remove our content immediately. Thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petr

All your content has been removed from our servers.
The search page you are reffering to caches for an hour, the images cache for 24 hours.
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ME: As a side note, I was wondering, did you bother to check how much traffic does your site get from pichunter.com before threatening us ?
Looks like we are promoting around 160 hosted galleries through ccbill on our site.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BryciSupport

We sent you a legal DMCA because you had stolen material. That's how
that works. No threat, it was very real and if we see our material on
your site again, you'll see just how real.

Pichunter is a valid ccbill affiliate with us. They are promoting
galleries we have released for promotion. We have zero videos we
release for promotion.

I'd suggest in future maybe doing your job better rather than worrying
about others.

Steve

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You misunderstood my last email. And you are clearly very new to this industry, so consider my following to be a help to you free of charge:

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2010/7/13 GND Media <[email protected]>

We sent you a legal DMCA because you had stolen material. That's how
that works. No threat, it was very real and if we see our material on
your site again, you'll see just how real.

You sent me a legal DMCA mixed with threatening. "You'll see just how real" is an example of threatening.

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Pichunter is a valid ccbill affiliate with us. They are promoting
galleries we have released for promotion. We have zero videos we
release for promotion.

Pichunter is owned by the same people who own cliphunter. For example: me. The very same people who send you traffic so that you can buy bread and milk, are the very same people who "steal" your content. This is how modern internet works. The 5 major porn tubes on the internet are ran by people who own the adult internet. The tube sites take DMCAs seriously, and mostly comply and remove stolen content in 24 hours (by the law book).

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I'd suggest in future maybe doing your job better rather than worrying
about others.

By worrying about YOU I worry about ME. Tube sites need content producers. Content producers have been falling like flies, because tubes are killing their profits. That's why I keep wasting my precious time explaining you how things work. When you work with tube sites (instead of threatening them with stupid pointless sentences) , everyone will win in the end. You need to adapt . Send tube sites 10 minute samples, in exchange for ads. Making enemies, like you just did, will put a solid end to your venture.

Also, I can almost guarantee you will see your content on cliphunter and other tube sites again. And when you do, you should send a normal legal DMCA notice to the tube owners. They will have 24 hours to comply. If they don't remove your content, you can scrape all the money you have ever made with your Bricy website, borrow some more, and throw out a law suit. Before you do that, I suggest you do a little research, for example this is a good starting point: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_623256.html . It would also not hurt, to find out who you are trying to sue. For example, 99% of the tube owners are smart enough to have their companies based in other countries. A pretty difficult law suit if you ask me. When you spend all your money (if you can scrape enough togheter) on a law suit, and if you lose, the tube owners will counter-sue you for wasting their time and resources. And you will not only loose your business, but also your life, because you will owe for rest of your life.

The trend now is for tube owners to co-op with content producers. I've seen it everywhere. Both parties realized they can't survive without each other. Try to be friends with them ( I know it's difficult, when it makes you angry they "steal" your content ) . The Tubes are your only hope to make any money on the internet.

Peace,
Petr

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryciSupport

It was your last sentence you wrote that showed me what you know or
don't know about online commerce in the adult world.

"The Tubes are your only hope to make any money on the internet."

Thanks for your opinion. One more time, thank you for remove all
Bryci, Talia Shepard, Katie Banks and Ava Dawn content from cliphunter
and pichunter.

Best of luck,

Steve

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petr

We've decided to remove all content promoting Bryci from pichunter.com , as you've mentioned in your previous e-mails, that you prohibit storing thumbnails of your content on our servers. There are currently 160+ galleries on Pichunter.com , promoted by a dozen or so submitters , who use your promotional content to send you traffic through our site.

Because our system is automated, and auto-generates thumbnails to these promotional galleries, we cannot risk being sued by you =)

All your content will be removed within next 24 hours , and all future attempts from various webmasters trying to promote Bryci.com website through CCBill codes, will be auto-banned, to prevent us from possible future law suits from your side.

Regards,
Petr

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Originally Posted by BryciSupport

Funny.

We contact you and tell you to remove our videos, which you had ZERO
legal right to have, and you try and drop ego and tell me how it
works.

I have 14 years in the business, I know how it works. Tubes are
stealing copyrights left right and center. We do not have videos for
promotion, at our own choice. The videos that are put out are stolen.

So you're banning Bryci from Cliphunter and Pichunter? Fantastic!
That's great. Thank you.

While you're at it, tell ya what... remove all of Talia Shepard, Katie
Banks and Ava Dawn as well. We own those too.

Excellent.

So much for Bryci.

MaDalton · 07-16-2010, 11:33 AM

yo - when are you coming back to Brno - lets have a beer

TarPy · 07-16-2010, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

yo - when are you coming back to Brno - lets have a beer

Next summer most likely! I love that place

TheSenator · 07-16-2010, 11:37 AM

Holy Shit!!!

What an idiot to burn a major bridge like PicHunter!!!

TheSenator · 07-16-2010, 11:41 AM

Is Bella Cash owned by the same dude who owns http://www.gndbank.com/ ???

Quagmire · 07-16-2010, 11:45 AM

too bad. Bryci has a nice set of tits on her.

TarPy · 07-16-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

too bad. Bryci has a nice set of tits on her.

Ass isn't half bad either...

gotys · 07-16-2010, 12:02 PM

Yeah, Bryci has an awesome rack. Too bad her manager is an idiot.

Quagmire · 07-16-2010, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gotys

Yeah, Bryci has an awesome rack. Too bad her manager is an idiot.

Yeah, he's clearly got a fishstick up his ass. Who in their right mind throws a hissy fit and makes threats in their DMCA?

He should check out 4chan. her stuff is all over the place on there.

James · 07-16-2010, 12:14 PM

Wow this has gotten blown out of proportion so bad it's stupid.

Dramalama says hello by the way.

Read the emails above, we asked that things be removed from cliphunter as it was stolen material. Not unlike anyone else.

Your guy emails back telling me how it works, or rather, how he sees it. More or less, trying to justify the theft of content. We had no interest in suing anyone, but it's a DMCA, when you don't remove the content as you're asked, don't you expect the company to say hey, we're going to look at legal options or contacting your host or whatever if you don't remove our content? It was never a threat, it was if you don't remove our content, we'll look at other options to have it removed, that wasn't a threat, that was how DMCA's work. If the site doesn't remove, you take action.

We NEVER had issue with Pichunter. We had issue with Cliphunter. We asked that our things be removed, your guy started in about Pichunter, why? Not sure exactly, we never had issues with them or the affiliates using PicHunter.

Your guy made this about Pichunter and the affiliates. Your guy said you'd decide to remove images from Pichunter. This all stemmed because you had our stolen videos on cliphunter and your guy wanted to explain that I had to allow this and adapt, this is how it works etc.

I disagreed and he then said fine, we're dropping you from PH.

Drama all over twitter. You try and contact Bryci so you can clear this up, she tells you to email [email protected] and do you? Did you email to clear this up as you requested?

No, instead spam your drama all over twitter and now here, and you seem to think you're professional? Really?

it's clear you're trying to hurt our program, which is fine and well. Affiliates that promote us are doing great. Pichunter is still fine by us, again, it was only after YOUR GUY said you were removing our content that we said great, remove our content.

Cliphunter though, is still not allowed to steal our content.

Not sure why this became GFY drama but perhaps that's how you run your company.

TarPy · 07-16-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GNDnet

Wow this has gotten blown out of proportion so bad it's stupid.

Dramalama says hello by the way.

Read the emails above, we asked that things be removed from cliphunter as it was stolen material. Not unlike anyone else.

Your guy emails back telling me how it works, or rather, how he sees it. More or less, trying to justify the theft of content. We had no interest in suing anyone, but it's a DMCA, when you don't remove the content as you're asked, don't you expect the company to say hey, we're going to look at legal options or contacting your host or whatever if you don't remove our content? It was never a threat, it was if you don't remove our content, we'll look at other options to have it removed, that wasn't a threat, that was how DMCA's work. If the site doesn't remove, you take action.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryciSupport

You have several images of ours on your server. We understand you grab
feeds from other sites, but that won't keep your out of the court
room. We can still sue you for theft and copyright infringement all
the same, ask a lawyer, we have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GNDnet

We NEVER had issue with Pichunter. We had issue with Cliphunter. We asked that our things be removed, your guy started in about Pichunter, why? Not sure exactly, we never had issues with them or the affiliates using PicHunter.

Pic Hunter and Clip Hunter are the same database from the krawl newtork.

Pichunter galleries appear on cliphunter, cliphunter streams appear on pichunter. The sites are the same database, with different designs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GNDnet

Your guy made this about Pichunter and the affiliates. Your guy said you'd decide to remove images from Pichunter. This all stemmed because you had our stolen videos on cliphunter and your guy wanted to explain that I had to allow this and adapt, this is how it works etc.

I disagreed and he then said fine, we're dropping you from PH.

We've had issue with other people over their "brand" terms. ATK, Anilos, and others have been fairly silly regarding their "terms" of content usage. Usually the issue is over the restriction of "thumbnails" of their content on pages that do not link to them exclusively. Such as on a category page, or search. We have removed their content until they issue specific licenses or exceptions to us in writing. If you take your content rights that seriously, we can't afford to display a "thumbnail" or "cache" any of your images when you get ridiculous with take down notices that are demanded without respect to reason.

Complaints are processed as a matter of routine. Threats to sue, references to imminent legal action and furthermore are presented to the legal team immediately, and our response to the incident is escalated.

In this case, we were advised to remove all of your images as soon as possible to prevent further potential liability. We're not sure which submitters are or are not following your terms exactly, so we must prohibit them from exposing us to further liability indirectly.

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Originally Posted by GNDnet

Drama all over twitter. You try and contact Bryci so you can clear this up, she tells you to email [email protected] and do you? Did you email to clear this up as you requested?

No, instead spam your drama all over twitter and now here, and you seem to think you're professional? Really?

Actually I @Replied you days ago asking for an ICQ, or other IM service contact so we could have a conversation, rather than a series of "statements" via e-mail. My request went without response. Also, e-mail only support is fairly shitty, but whatever.

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Originally Posted by GNDnet

it's clear you're trying to hurt our program, which is fine and well. Affiliates that promote us are doing great. Pichunter is still fine by us, again, it was only after YOUR GUY said you were removing our content that we said great, remove our content.

Cliphunter though, is still not allowed to steal our content.

Not sure why this became GFY drama but perhaps that's how you run your company.

At no point did we steal your content. Click the unhappy face on any page of cliphunter, and report content as "copyright infringement". And it would be automatically removed within 10 minutes. Furthermore, at no point were anything other than thumbnails stored on pichunter or cliphunter servers. They are search based displays of other sites that have material. If they remove, we do not have a copy. Your issue is with them, or the user that uploaded to them, not us.

At anypoint when people threaten legal action, we are cautious. RK, Brazzers, Adult Friend Finder, and others have been embattled in court actions recently. Courtrooms are costly and hinder progress, we avoid them at all costs.

Removing content is something we did for you immediately on first contact, and do routinely without verification or legal DMCA request for users and companies routinely, along with auto removal tools on the public site. You however threatened to "Show us how" whatever you were. So, we continued removal to make you happier.

Quote Bryci, "@PichunterDotCom ban away sweetie ;)"

So, we're notifying our submitters of a change of Rules, and informing them why we are disabling their galleries so that they don't think that we are mad at them. It is not uncommon for our company to make announcements on this board regarding changes to our rules.

ottopottomouse · 07-16-2010, 12:50 PM

@TarPy

Dunno whether there is an actual problem or not but on pichunter recently a lot of the pages of individual sites show no listings.

example:
http://galleries.pichunter.com/krawl...548/index.html

there's two links for more similar at the bottom:

http://www.pichunter.com/models/all/lauren - works fine - loads a page of thumbs

http://www.pichunter.com/sites/explo...ge_girls.shtml - loads a page: No galleries were found for this site.

TarPy · 07-16-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

@TarPy

Dunno whether there is an actual problem or not but on pichunter recently a lot of the pages of individual sites show no listings.

example:
http://galleries.pichunter.com/krawl...548/index.html

there's two links for more similar at the bottom:

http://www.pichunter.com/models/all/lauren - works fine - loads a page of thumbs

http://www.pichunter.com/sites/explo...ge_girls.shtml - loads a page: No galleries were found for this site.

yes, there is an issue we are tracking, but thanks for the help. specific errors always help track problems

mafia_man · 07-16-2010, 01:13 PM

You're getting a lot of sympathy on here despite running a torrent section.

TheSenator · 07-16-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mafia_man

You're getting a lot of sympathy on here despite running a torrent section.

To lazy to look up the torrent section....

Please post link

TeenSluts · 07-16-2010, 01:20 PM

ouch......

TarPy · 07-16-2010, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator

To lazy to look up the torrent section....

Please post link

phTorrents - A great deal of the content there is actually licensed under special promotional agreements with those companies. We have no outstanding DMCA complaints against that site, and have had only 5 ever.

mafia_man · 07-16-2010, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TarPy

phTorrents - A great deal of the content there is actually licensed under special promotional agreements with those companies. We have no outstanding DMCA complaints against that site, and have had only 5 ever.

Fair enough if it's licensed. Apologies.

sternyduke · 07-16-2010, 01:27 PM

OWNED!!!

TarPy · 07-16-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mafia_man

You're getting a lot of sympathy on here despite running a torrent section.

That's because we try our very hardest not to be assholes. There are some conventions and standards that are certainly being debated on a global scale regarding Copyright and how to handle it. I have never advocated the "tube" style of doing things. However, it does appear to be the winning format. You can't just keep releasing Beta Porn in a VHS/DVD/Blu-Ray world.

Ask around, we've always been easy to work with, we didn't start the "tube" game. In fact, we lost an absurd amount of market share to RedTube, YouPorn, and PornHub when we made the decision to close Gexo.com in 2008 when it was very competitive with those. That decision has cost our company millions, but we were hoping that large producers would level the playing field.

This did not happen. We are providing surfers with the tools they expect to have to facilitate browsing and downloading according to the legal standards provided by the courts. Everything was removed in 24 hours like it should be.

TarPy · 07-16-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mafia_man

Fair enough if it's licensed. Apologies.

Apology accepted, however, I'll point out some of that is still unmoderated user-submitted content. So, DMCA violations may exist on that site. However, we have not been informed of any issues.

cybermike · 07-16-2010, 01:36 PM

Hey tarpy.. krawl forum still active? The forgot password feature doesn't seem to be sending me my password

TheSenator · 07-16-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cybermike

Hey tarpy.. krawl forum still active? The forgot password feature doesn't seem to be sending me my password

Me too...

marcop · 07-16-2010, 03:14 PM

While you're at it, tell ya what... remove all of Talia Shepard, Katie
Banks and Ava Dawn as well. We own those too.

I heard that Talia Shephard's site was doing very little business...

James · 07-16-2010, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by marcop

While you're at it, tell ya what... remove all of Talia Shepard, Katie
Banks and Ava Dawn as well. We own those too.

I heard that Talia Shephard's site was doing very little business...

We took over Talia's site in the last month and it's been selling like hotcakes. No idea how it was doing before we took it over though.

James · 07-16-2010, 03:34 PM

So I got curious after the claim of all this traffic you guys have. I looked up the sales we get referred from your site, pichunter. Sure you're a huge site, but you're not sending anywhere near the sales you should be if you truly have the traffic you suggest. You guys are huge, no question.. but in comparison.. FreeOnes has very similar traffic and they are always in our top 5 affiliates, where as you are not in the top 100. Odd wouldn't you say? I checked referring urls for sales and yup, Freeones and other affs are all over, where as PicHunter isn't. I thought that was odd. It's not the content, Freeones makes a boatload monthly from us.

You didn't @msg me trying to contact me, I checked. If I somehow missed it, you can point it out to me and I'll gladly apologize. Either way, you were specifically asked by Bryci and myself to email us if you wanted to clear it up. Did you? No. Instead you bring drama and post all over twitter and here rather than a simple email. Very professional I might add.

What does this do exactly? Affiliates weren't nailing sales using your site anyway so why do they care we're not there anymore?

Also, continual posting of drama on twitter? Yeah, we'd rather not to business with you. Thanks though.

@Bryci responded the way she did because she told you how to fix the problem, instead, you went all drama. She doesn't want you promoting us either. See what you did there? You lost one of the girls that could have made you money.

I might be wrong, but you do understand without producers or girls, you are out a job, right? You need us more than we need you. In a perfect world we all get along but after reading how you handle things, we'd like to be removed, as we said.

Judging from the affiliates that have contacted me, thrilled we are not on your site now, and the others signing up for BellaCash, when you started to try and knock us down you ended up sending us more traffic.

You don't promote us, what happens? Nothing. Others still do and they get more sales because the content isn't as out there now. We're okay with this.

Thank you.

Have a great weekend all!

To the rest, we're still kicking ass and the sales back it up. Talk to any affiliate promoting us.

garce · 07-16-2010, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarPy

Apology accepted, however, I'll point out some of that is still unmoderated user-submitted content. So, DMCA violations may exist on that site. However, we have not been informed of any issues.

I don't come to GFY for honesty and transparency! I come here for draaaamaaaa! Dammit!

marcop · 07-16-2010, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GNDnet

We took over Talia's site in the last month and it's been selling like hotcakes. No idea how it was doing before we took it over though.

Maybe, like Rick in Casablanca, I was misinformed.

jimmy-3-way · 07-16-2010, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GNDnet

Judging from the affiliates that have contacted me, thrilled we are not on your site now, and the others signing up for BellaCash, when you started to try and knock us down you ended up sending us more traffic.

My all time favorite GFY post: no matter how bad we look in this GFY drama we are drowning in new affiliates!!!!

gotys · 07-16-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GNDnet

So I got curious after the claim of all this traffic you guys have. I looked up the sales we get referred from your site, pichunter. Sure you're a huge site, but you're not sending anywhere near the sales you should be if you truly have the traffic you suggest. You guys are huge, no question.. but in comparison.. FreeOnes has very similar traffic and they are always in our top 5 affiliates, where as you are not in the top 100. Odd wouldn't you say? I checked referring urls for sales and yup, Freeones and other affs are all over, where as PicHunter isn't. I thought that was odd. It's not the content, Freeones makes a boatload monthly from us.

You didn't @msg me trying to contact me, I checked. If I somehow missed it, you can point it out to me and I'll gladly apologize. Either way, you were specifically asked by Bryci and myself to email us if you wanted to clear it up. Did you? No. Instead you bring drama and post all over twitter and here rather than a simple email. Very professional I might add.

What does this do exactly? Affiliates weren't nailing sales using your site anyway so why do they care we're not there anymore?

Also, continual posting of drama on twitter? Yeah, we'd rather not to business with you. Thanks though.

@Bryci responded the way she did because she told you how to fix the problem, instead, you went all drama. She doesn't want you promoting us either. See what you did there? You lost one of the girls that could have made you money.

I might be wrong, but you do understand without producers or girls, you are out a job, right? You need us more than we need you. In a perfect world we all get along but after reading how you handle things, we'd like to be removed, as we said.

Judging from the affiliates that have contacted me, thrilled we are not on your site now, and the others signing up for BellaCash, when you started to try and knock us down you ended up sending us more traffic.

You don't promote us, what happens? Nothing. Others still do and they get more sales because the content isn't as out there now. We're okay with this.

Thank you.

Have a great weekend all!

To the rest, we're still kicking ass and the sales back it up. Talk to any affiliate promoting us.

You sir, are an idiot.

TarPy · 07-16-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GNDnet

So I got curious after the claim of all this traffic you guys have. I looked up the sales we get referred from your site, pichunter. Sure you're a huge site, but you're not sending anywhere near the sales you should be if you truly have the traffic you suggest. You guys are huge, no question.. but in comparison.. FreeOnes has very similar traffic and they are always in our top 5 affiliates, where as you are not in the top 100. Odd wouldn't you say? I checked referring urls for sales and yup, Freeones and other affs are all over, where as PicHunter isn't. I thought that was odd. It's not the content, Freeones makes a boatload monthly from us.

No, it would be the part where they have done babe/non-nude forever, and our surfers have always been into Porn. Freeones does great for glamour/solo/nude. We kill them usually on things involving sex, fetishes, and anything not attractive.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GNDnet

You didn't @msg me trying to contact me, I checked. If I somehow missed it, you can point it out to me and I'll gladly apologize. Either way, you were specifically asked by Bryci and myself to email us if you wanted to clear it up. Did you? No. Instead you bring drama and post all over twitter and here rather than a simple email. Very professional I might add.

What does this do exactly? Affiliates weren't nailing sales using your site anyway so why do they care we're not there anymore?

Also, continual posting of drama on twitter? Yeah, we'd rather not to business with you. Thanks though.

@Bryci responded the way she did because she told you how to fix the problem, instead, you went all drama. She doesn't want you promoting us either. See what you did there? You lost one of the girls that could have made you money.

I might be wrong, but you do understand without producers or girls, you are out a job, right? You need us more than we need you. In a perfect world we all get along but after reading how you handle things, we'd like to be removed, as we said.

And I'm sure your affiliate appreciate your concern for the traffic your over-zealous ego-driven threats lost them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GNDnet

Judging from the affiliates that have contacted me, thrilled we are not on your site now

Yes, I'm sure being on PicHunter was the reason you're a small program with only 1 successful site.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GNDnet

You don't promote us, what happens? Nothing. Others still do and they get more sales because the content isn't as out there now. We're okay with this.

Thank you.

Never was trying to knock you down. You're a moron that doesn't understand cache, that threatens to show us just how "real" you are... The knocking is self evident, but for giggles...

You have one good site, based only on the model's look. A success you can't replicate.
Your photography is adequate, but your photographer certainly isn't a "skill position" at your website.
The webmaster in charge of the program is too dumb to know what "cache" is.
You're lucky to be fucking the model, or she'd have left for a better program by now.
Your cash program sucks.
Get a fucking ICQ number.
You couldn't back up your threats to sue, ever. Your content is open season and you fucking know it.
So does everyone else. That's why they are all laughing.
All in all, I wish you the best of luck. But if your brain writes the e-mails rather than big dick ego of yours. You'd have more success.

Fact is you wrote a DMCA threatening to show us "how real" you are, and you're anything but. You're small time, and your content could be all over our site, and there really wouldn't be shit you could do to stop it. We know it, but we remove your content because it's the right thing to do not because we're afraid of some bullshit small time program like yours starting an international lawsuit against us. We'd destroy you in court. Sucks, but it's true. Believe me, we have spoken to lawyers, and our lawyers are probably better than yours.

TarPy · 07-16-2010, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

@TarPy

Dunno whether there is an actual problem or not but on pichunter recently a lot of the pages of individual sites show no listings.

example:
http://galleries.pichunter.com/krawl...548/index.html

there's two links for more similar at the bottom:

http://www.pichunter.com/models/all/lauren - works fine - loads a page of thumbs

http://www.pichunter.com/sites/explo...ge_girls.shtml - loads a page: No galleries were found for this site.

Fixed now.

DigitalTheory · 07-16-2010, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Is Bella Cash owned by the same dude who owns http://www.gndbank.com/ ???

SpunkyCash owns gndbank now, if I remember correctly.

dooglas · 07-16-2010, 08:47 PM

Mutt · 07-16-2010, 09:12 PM

Cliphunter is a tube aggregator site though, you embed videos from tube sites like XVideos in Cliphunter's pages. Bryci's videos are embedded in Cliphunter pages?

the thumbs/cache thing i agree isn't worth getting upset about - but if Bryci videos are embedded on Cliphunter without links to her website................ not good.

James · 07-16-2010, 11:14 PM

I wasn't upset about it, I sent a DMCA to have them removed, same as every other site and not one site ever said anything other than, no worries, content removed.

That wasn't the normal DMCA we send out, that one was sent after a night of DMCA'ing and having several previous tube sites ignore emails. Seems the only way you get things done is to contact a host these days.

Yes, it was worded stronger than it should have been and for that, I apologize. Petr brought up the whole "we're pichunter, do you know what traffic we send" comments and then after he wrote that long ego email about how I have to accept tubes and all this other junk and that's pretty much when i was like.. why do I care about this guy again? I check referring urls and sales and he isn't in the top 100. For someone with 3 million plus per month, I'd have thought he'd be a major player. Of course when i asked about this, he had a good reason, they're new to the solo babe thing. I'd still have thought they'd be in the top 100, but meh, whatever.

This TarPy guy was nice when he tweeted to Bryci. Bryci tweeted back how to reach me. Did he try and reach me? No. Instead, he goes into high drama mode tweeting like his life depends on it. Doesn't email to sort things out like he said he wanted to. Doesn't @ message me either like he said he did. Then he goes all GFY drama in here. Should have expected as much.

I point out his traffic/sales don't quite match the size of the ego and he goes postal once again, insulting anything he can. Yup, this is a guy I want to do business with. heh

Best of luck Pichunter, we'll be watching for you to remove all of our content. We figure you can't convert it anyway so might as well ban it and remove it.

Have a great weekend.

(this is where you keep typing because you feel the need to further insult and get in the last word. Isn't GFY great? Hells yeah!)

TheSenator · 07-16-2010, 11:21 PM

This has turned into "who has the biggest penis" on GFY.

TarPy · 07-16-2010, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

This has turned into "who has the biggest penis" on GFY.

It wouldn't really be a contest. Besides, the guy just summed it up on the last post. He took his anger out on the industry out on Pichunter who never ignored his e-mails. Shouldn't have, and we removed him.

He's just pissed he could never afford a lawyer, and we have more than a few. ;-)

Here's to his response

, after all, I'm sure he'd like the last word.

I'll help his noob ass.. This thread is a complete fail without this

But Gisele is hotter and sells better.

in the future, you turn threads about you with excessive girl booty

TheSenator · 07-16-2010, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarPy

It wouldn't really be a contest. Besides, the guy just summed it up on the last post. He took his anger out on the industry out on Pichunter who never ignored his e-mails. Shouldn't have, and we removed him.

He's just pissed he could never afford a lawyer, and we have more than a few. ;-)

Here's to his response

, after all, I'm sure he'd like the last word.

I'll help his noob ass.. This thread is a complete fail without this

But Gisele is hotter and sells better.

in the future, you turn threads about you with excessive girl booty

Gisele is fucking hot!

TarPy · 07-16-2010, 11:51 PM

Aaliyah Love

rachel Aziani

Janessa Brazil

and

Mariah Milano

For some girls you can promote without dealing with their hot headed over-protective under-informed boyfriend ankle weights... LOL... Boyfriends, get a skill in life.

TarPy · 07-16-2010, 11:52 PM

Who wants a shirt, we've got shitty unproductive traffic to send since Bryci and crew don't need it!

Abbie · 07-17-2010, 12:04 AM

She wants you, Tarpy:

trevesty · 07-17-2010, 12:05 AM

Gisele's a silly goose.

Abbie · 07-17-2010, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevesty

Gisele's a silly goose.

Hey fuckface, where u been hiding? I have needs.

ottopottomouse · 07-17-2010, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarPy

Fixed now.

erooup · 07-23-2010, 10:41 AM

We just had a similar run-in with the idiot running the program. He even send us a DMCA after we took down the content. Content he allowed uf to use before we posted the first post (out of two) on the blog.

If I had time to deal with that asshat, I would make him pay for sending a DMCA under false premises.

Chosen · 07-23-2010, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abbie

She wants you, Tarpy:

CIVMatt · 07-23-2010, 12:23 PM

Hi TarPy!

GUNNER · 07-23-2010, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TarPy

Who wants a shirt, we've got shitty unproductive traffic to send since Bryci and crew don't need it!

yo send the new stuff on over, Misty hasn't done a PH shoot in a long time.. maybe even since NN days

Fat Panda · 07-23-2010, 12:37 PM

great gfy drama....good stuff

07-16-2010, 11:33 AM	#2
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,826	yo - when are you coming back to Brno - lets have a beer __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

07-16-2010, 11:37 AM	#4
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,331	Holy Shit!!! What an idiot to burn a major bridge like PicHunter!!! __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

07-16-2010, 11:41 AM	#5
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,331	Is Bella Cash owned by the same dude who owns http://www.gndbank.com/ ??? __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

07-16-2010, 11:45 AM	#6
Quagmire Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Stinkin' up your bathroom Posts: 6,490	too bad. Bryci has a nice set of tits on her. __________________

07-16-2010, 12:02 PM	#8
gotys Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 767	Yeah, Bryci has an awesome rack. Too bad her manager is an idiot. __________________ PicHunter.com,ClipHunter.com,HomeTwat.com -------------------------------------------- not accepting any trades, not selling spots

07-16-2010, 12:14 PM	#10
James Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 89	Wow this has gotten blown out of proportion so bad it's stupid. Dramalama says hello by the way. Read the emails above, we asked that things be removed from cliphunter as it was stolen material. Not unlike anyone else. Your guy emails back telling me how it works, or rather, how he sees it. More or less, trying to justify the theft of content. We had no interest in suing anyone, but it's a DMCA, when you don't remove the content as you're asked, don't you expect the company to say hey, we're going to look at legal options or contacting your host or whatever if you don't remove our content? It was never a threat, it was if you don't remove our content, we'll look at other options to have it removed, that wasn't a threat, that was how DMCA's work. If the site doesn't remove, you take action. We NEVER had issue with Pichunter. We had issue with Cliphunter. We asked that our things be removed, your guy started in about Pichunter, why? Not sure exactly, we never had issues with them or the affiliates using PicHunter. Your guy made this about Pichunter and the affiliates. Your guy said you'd decide to remove images from Pichunter. This all stemmed because you had our stolen videos on cliphunter and your guy wanted to explain that I had to allow this and adapt, this is how it works etc. I disagreed and he then said fine, we're dropping you from PH. Drama all over twitter. You try and contact Bryci so you can clear this up, she tells you to email [email protected] and do you? Did you email to clear this up as you requested? No, instead spam your drama all over twitter and now here, and you seem to think you're professional? Really? it's clear you're trying to hurt our program, which is fine and well. Affiliates that promote us are doing great. Pichunter is still fine by us, again, it was only after YOUR GUY said you were removing our content that we said great, remove our content. Cliphunter though, is still not allowed to steal our content. Not sure why this became GFY drama but perhaps that's how you run your company. __________________ BellaPass

07-16-2010, 12:50 PM	#12
ottopottomouse She is ugly, bad luck. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,177	@TarPy Dunno whether there is an actual problem or not but on pichunter recently a lot of the pages of individual sites show no listings. example: http://galleries.pichunter.com/krawl...548/index.html there's two links for more similar at the bottom: http://www.pichunter.com/models/all/lauren - works fine - loads a page of thumbs http://www.pichunter.com/sites/explo...ge_girls.shtml - loads a page: No galleries were found for this site. __________________ ↑ see post ↑ 13101

07-16-2010, 01:13 PM	#14
mafia_man Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq#: 639544261 Posts: 1,965	You're getting a lot of sympathy on here despite running a torrent section. __________________ I'm out.

07-16-2010, 01:20 PM	#16
TeenSluts Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,966	ouch......

07-16-2010, 01:27 PM	#19
sternyduke Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 1,082	OWNED!!!

07-16-2010, 01:36 PM	#22
cybermike Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ny Posts: 4,108	Hey tarpy.. krawl forum still active? The forgot password feature doesn't seem to be sending me my password __________________ Hey surfers how about some The Best Porn Sites

07-16-2010, 03:14 PM	#24
marcop Content Producer Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 4,143	While you're at it, tell ya what... remove all of Talia Shepard, Katie Banks and Ava Dawn as well. We own those too. I heard that Talia Shephard's site was doing very little business...

07-16-2010, 03:34 PM	#26
James Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 89	So I got curious after the claim of all this traffic you guys have. I looked up the sales we get referred from your site, pichunter. Sure you're a huge site, but you're not sending anywhere near the sales you should be if you truly have the traffic you suggest. You guys are huge, no question.. but in comparison.. FreeOnes has very similar traffic and they are always in our top 5 affiliates, where as you are not in the top 100. Odd wouldn't you say? I checked referring urls for sales and yup, Freeones and other affs are all over, where as PicHunter isn't. I thought that was odd. It's not the content, Freeones makes a boatload monthly from us. You didn't @msg me trying to contact me, I checked. If I somehow missed it, you can point it out to me and I'll gladly apologize. Either way, you were specifically asked by Bryci and myself to email us if you wanted to clear it up. Did you? No. Instead you bring drama and post all over twitter and here rather than a simple email. Very professional I might add. What does this do exactly? Affiliates weren't nailing sales using your site anyway so why do they care we're not there anymore? Also, continual posting of drama on twitter? Yeah, we'd rather not to business with you. Thanks though. @Bryci responded the way she did because she told you how to fix the problem, instead, you went all drama. She doesn't want you promoting us either. See what you did there? You lost one of the girls that could have made you money. I might be wrong, but you do understand without producers or girls, you are out a job, right? You need us more than we need you. In a perfect world we all get along but after reading how you handle things, we'd like to be removed, as we said. Judging from the affiliates that have contacted me, thrilled we are not on your site now, and the others signing up for BellaCash, when you started to try and knock us down you ended up sending us more traffic. You don't promote us, what happens? Nothing. Others still do and they get more sales because the content isn't as out there now. We're okay with this. Thank you. Have a great weekend all! To the rest, we're still kicking ass and the sales back it up. Talk to any affiliate promoting us. __________________ BellaPass

07-16-2010, 08:47 PM	#34
dooglas So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: A Strip Club Posts: 2,069	Wow

07-16-2010, 09:12 PM	#35
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Cliphunter is a tube aggregator site though, you embed videos from tube sites like XVideos in Cliphunter's pages. Bryci's videos are embedded in Cliphunter pages? the thumbs/cache thing i agree isn't worth getting upset about - but if Bryci videos are embedded on Cliphunter without links to her website................ not good. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

07-16-2010, 11:14 PM	#36
James Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Western Canada Posts: 89	I wasn't upset about it, I sent a DMCA to have them removed, same as every other site and not one site ever said anything other than, no worries, content removed. That wasn't the normal DMCA we send out, that one was sent after a night of DMCA'ing and having several previous tube sites ignore emails. Seems the only way you get things done is to contact a host these days. Yes, it was worded stronger than it should have been and for that, I apologize. Petr brought up the whole "we're pichunter, do you know what traffic we send" comments and then after he wrote that long ego email about how I have to accept tubes and all this other junk and that's pretty much when i was like.. why do I care about this guy again? I check referring urls and sales and he isn't in the top 100. For someone with 3 million plus per month, I'd have thought he'd be a major player. Of course when i asked about this, he had a good reason, they're new to the solo babe thing. I'd still have thought they'd be in the top 100, but meh, whatever. This TarPy guy was nice when he tweeted to Bryci. Bryci tweeted back how to reach me. Did he try and reach me? No. Instead, he goes into high drama mode tweeting like his life depends on it. Doesn't email to sort things out like he said he wanted to. Doesn't @ message me either like he said he did. Then he goes all GFY drama in here. Should have expected as much. I point out his traffic/sales don't quite match the size of the ego and he goes postal once again, insulting anything he can. Yup, this is a guy I want to do business with. heh Best of luck Pichunter, we'll be watching for you to remove all of our content. We figure you can't convert it anyway so might as well ban it and remove it. Have a great weekend. (this is where you keep typing because you feel the need to further insult and get in the last word. Isn't GFY great? Hells yeah!) __________________ BellaPass Last edited by James; 07-16-2010 at 11:17 PM..

07-16-2010, 11:21 PM	#37
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,331	This has turned into "who has the biggest penis" on GFY. __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

07-16-2010, 11:51 PM	#40
TarPy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 758	Aaliyah Love rachel Aziani Janessa Brazil and Mariah Milano For some girls you can promote without dealing with their hot headed over-protective under-informed boyfriend ankle weights... LOL... Boyfriends, get a skill in life. __________________ Not Working

07-16-2010, 11:52 PM	#41
TarPy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 758	Who wants a shirt, we've got shitty unproductive traffic to send since Bryci and crew don't need it! __________________ Not Working

07-17-2010, 12:04 AM	#42
Abbie Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,004	She wants you, Tarpy:

07-17-2010, 12:05 AM	#43
trevesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 3,802	Gisele's a silly goose.

07-23-2010, 10:41 AM	#46
erooup Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 512	We just had a similar run-in with the idiot running the program. He even send us a DMCA after we took down the content. Content he allowed uf to use before we posted the first post (out of two) on the blog. If I had time to deal with that asshat, I would make him pay for sending a DMCA under false premises.

07-23-2010, 12:23 PM	#48
CIVMatt Amateur Pimpin Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 13,075	Hi TarPy! __________________ Make easy money with Webcams

07-23-2010, 12:37 PM	#50
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	great gfy drama....good stuff