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Mutt · 01-04-2003, 06:54 AM

When I started watching porn in the mid 80's, ya know with Christy Canyon, Ginger Lynn, etc it was enough for me to just see decent looking chicks getting fucked and giving head. I didn't need to see triple penetration, i didn't need to see her spit on, double anal , throat fucked until the chick vomits etc

So last night i was talking to the guy who shoots the video for Wanton Girls clients, asked him if he did a shoot he was supposed to do yesterday. He said no, the girl flaked, which isn't that unusual. I asked him why anyway she flaked, he said she was in 'no condition' to work because she had worked the day before for a big vid company and i guess they really worked her over. Dunno what exactly but when you watch porn these days you see these girls really getting pushed to the limits. No wonder the real pretty ones wind up taking contracts at Vivid just to get out of the line of fire.

Being a pornstar ain't pretty. But they volunteer for it, it's not like they don't know what's up, all they have to do is watch a vid for the companies they'll be working for.

I still don't get it though. I still can get off just watching a hot chick getting fucked, dunno why so many guys need to see these girls pummelled.

Jakke PNG · 01-04-2003, 07:01 AM

regular porn doesn't do it for me. I could never jack off to a vivid flick. no way. I'd rather see some decent shit, or 'real' amateur stuff. Not any of this lame 'reality' porn atleast.

But that's just me, and I'm from europe.

Roald · 01-04-2003, 07:01 AM

Ever wondered why people want to see a shemale midget homosexual?

I don't care as long as it's legal

Q.

Lethal · 01-04-2003, 07:02 AM

In the 1920s it was hardcore to see a guy get shot with a cap gun in a fake ass cowboy flick. Now people have gotta see blood and guts everywhere, ultra realistic close ups, just to get the same effect. Same with porn - people just get desensitised, especially having it rammed down their throats on the internet every day - it's gotta be something different (ultra hardcore) to get their attention.

2spy · 01-04-2003, 07:04 AM

I'm with you mutt: I think the sexy, teasing, slowly working it at first, and then a good f**k makes a good show----

Triple 6 · 01-04-2003, 07:12 AM

I get off on the realism. I dont like the real REAL shit, like fat ass amatuers fucking on som hidden cam - thats just gross. But to see some unstaged good girl gone bad, mmmmmmm OK, YAY.

RedShoe · 01-04-2003, 07:27 AM

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Originally posted by Mutt
Being a pornstar ain't pretty. But they volunteer for it.

WHAT THE FUCK?!?! I've been payin' these bitches, and all this time they're supposed to volunteer? FUCK THAT!!
The next chick I hire is gettin' "the WORKS"

No, seriously, I agree. I like the real/fantasy stuff. Like what we do at CollegeFuckFest. It's meant to be innocent fun. We joke with the girls, they joke back, we get them to flash, they have sex...

Gagging until she almost pukes is too much. That's borderline S&M in my book. Pleasure thru pain. No thanks. I was raised on Playboy material. So I like to see hot chicks having sex, not strung out desperate girls getting gagged, and forced into positions.

Mutt · 01-04-2003, 07:39 AM

the throat fucking/gagging thing is one of the biggest selling niches in vid porn these days - Throat Gaggers series and GagFactor series.

Aurora Snow did one of the GagFactor videos, and her scene was the most controversial, i was reading about it on a porn fan newsgroup, lots of people were concerned for her, they thought it went way over the line and that she was being abused or maybe it was done against her will.

I asked her about it, told her what people were saying, she said she was not abused, it was all pre-planned, the actor was her boyfriend and that she was definitely in control of the situation.

i haven't seen the scene.

Lethal · 01-04-2003, 07:43 AM

I think a lot of the rougher "exploited real amateur" stuff gets into the realms of borderline rape fantasy, but it's given a semi-humorous facade to make it more acceptable.

Lionking · 01-04-2003, 09:35 AM

I agree with Teengodfather, normal (especially American) porn just doesn't do it.

Showing less, gives you more. Some picture series with almost softcore content can be a real turn on. Or then realistic stuff, it's real turn on to see a girl really enjoying, too bad it's really rare with stuff available these days.

Mike Semen · 01-04-2003, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
regular porn doesn't do it for me. I could never jack off to a vivid flick. no way. I'd rather see some decent shit, or 'real' amateur stuff. Not any of this lame 'reality' porn atleast.
But that's just me, and I'm from europe.

Finland isn't really Europe...

JayJay · 01-04-2003, 09:38 AM

after seeing some of max hardcores stuff it makes me no longer wanna be in this biz

Jakke PNG · 01-04-2003, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike Semen

Finland isn't really Europe...

Part of russia then?
I thought you were finnish, stop dissing us!

models · 01-04-2003, 02:12 PM

I always wonder if the folks that get off on the "rough sex" niche content really like girls.

Because if they really liked girls, I don't think they would like to see the women abused this way. Oh yes, you can tell me it's all acting and a "charade", and how the girl really doesn't mind having the guy pull his cock out of her ass and then ram it down her throat, and then put it back in her ass, and then ram it down her throat again and again, ad nauseum.

To my mind the Max Hardcore genre appeals to the guys that could never get laid in high school---perhaps the physically unattractive and socially inept. And for these guys this builds up a resentment against all women. If you did a psychological profile on rapists I suspect that you would see many parallels.

In my view, the kind of guys that get vicarious pleasure from seeing pretty girls abused have a very immature sexuality.
And yes, I understand that these guys do buy porn. And I am a "porn" content producer.

The question is---do we make the world a better place by feeding the lowest levels of human emotion? And, do we do anything just to make a fuckin' dollar? Perhaps some of us do.

But, in every single image I create the women appear to be having a good time---and the content is very HOT because of that.

And luckily, that sort of content sells paysite memberships. And models call me for work. And, I don't have to pay them exorbitant modeling fees.

So, my point is, it CAN be a good business model to actually be nice to the girls.

Mutt · 01-04-2003, 02:26 PM

hi models,

do u shoot stills or video? send me some samples or a URL to your stuff?

i agree..........there's a real mysoginy in the business. i now get to talk to a fair number of people and i definitely pick that up.

but girls have the right to work with who they want, nobody is drugging them up, so it's hard to feel that sorry for them.

01-04-2003, 06:54 AM	#1
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	Porn Ain't Pretty When I started watching porn in the mid 80's, ya know with Christy Canyon, Ginger Lynn, etc it was enough for me to just see decent looking chicks getting fucked and giving head. I didn't need to see triple penetration, i didn't need to see her spit on, double anal , throat fucked until the chick vomits etc So last night i was talking to the guy who shoots the video for Wanton Girls clients, asked him if he did a shoot he was supposed to do yesterday. He said no, the girl flaked, which isn't that unusual. I asked him why anyway she flaked, he said she was in 'no condition' to work because she had worked the day before for a big vid company and i guess they really worked her over. Dunno what exactly but when you watch porn these days you see these girls really getting pushed to the limits. No wonder the real pretty ones wind up taking contracts at Vivid just to get out of the line of fire. Being a pornstar ain't pretty. But they volunteer for it, it's not like they don't know what's up, all they have to do is watch a vid for the companies they'll be working for. I still don't get it though. I still can get off just watching a hot chick getting fucked, dunno why so many guys need to see these girls pummelled. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

01-04-2003, 07:01 AM	#2
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	regular porn doesn't do it for me. I could never jack off to a vivid flick. no way. I'd rather see some decent shit, or 'real' amateur stuff. Not any of this lame 'reality' porn atleast. But that's just me, and I'm from europe. __________________ ..and I'm off.

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01-04-2003, 07:39 AM	#8
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	the throat fucking/gagging thing is one of the biggest selling niches in vid porn these days - Throat Gaggers series and GagFactor series. Aurora Snow did one of the GagFactor videos, and her scene was the most controversial, i was reading about it on a porn fan newsgroup, lots of people were concerned for her, they thought it went way over the line and that she was being abused or maybe it was done against her will. I asked her about it, told her what people were saying, she said she was not abused, it was all pre-planned, the actor was her boyfriend and that she was definitely in control of the situation. i haven't seen the scene. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

01-04-2003, 07:02 AM	#4
Lethal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 494	In the 1920s it was hardcore to see a guy get shot with a cap gun in a fake ass cowboy flick. Now people have gotta see blood and guts everywhere, ultra realistic close ups, just to get the same effect. Same with porn - people just get desensitised, especially having it rammed down their throats on the internet every day - it's gotta be something different (ultra hardcore) to get their attention.

01-04-2003, 07:04 AM	#5
2spy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 58	I'm with you mutt: I think the sexy, teasing, slowly working it at first, and then a good f**k makes a good show----

01-04-2003, 07:43 AM	#9
Lethal Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 494	I think a lot of the rougher "exploited real amateur" stuff gets into the realms of borderline rape fantasy, but it's given a semi-humorous facade to make it more acceptable.

01-04-2003, 09:35 AM	#10
Lionking Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 61	I agree with Teengodfather, normal (especially American) porn just doesn't do it. Showing less, gives you more. Some picture series with almost softcore content can be a real turn on. Or then realistic stuff, it's real turn on to see a girl really enjoying, too bad it's really rare with stuff available these days.

01-04-2003, 09:38 AM	#12
JayJay Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3,739	after seeing some of max hardcores stuff it makes me no longer wanna be in this biz

01-04-2003, 02:12 PM	#14
models Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: chicago Posts: 118	I always wonder if the folks that get off on the "rough sex" niche content really like girls. Because if they really liked girls, I don't think they would like to see the women abused this way. Oh yes, you can tell me it's all acting and a "charade", and how the girl really doesn't mind having the guy pull his cock out of her ass and then ram it down her throat, and then put it back in her ass, and then ram it down her throat again and again, ad nauseum. To my mind the Max Hardcore genre appeals to the guys that could never get laid in high school---perhaps the physically unattractive and socially inept. And for these guys this builds up a resentment against all women. If you did a psychological profile on rapists I suspect that you would see many parallels. In my view, the kind of guys that get vicarious pleasure from seeing pretty girls abused have a very immature sexuality. And yes, I understand that these guys do buy porn. And I am a "porn" content producer. The question is---do we make the world a better place by feeding the lowest levels of human emotion? And, do we do anything just to make a fuckin' dollar? Perhaps some of us do. But, in every single image I create the women appear to be having a good time---and the content is very HOT because of that. And luckily, that sort of content sells paysite memberships. And models call me for work. And, I don't have to pay them exorbitant modeling fees. So, my point is, it CAN be a good business model to actually be nice to the girls.

01-04-2003, 02:26 PM	#15
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	hi models, do u shoot stills or video? send me some samples or a URL to your stuff? i agree..........there's a real mysoginy in the business. i now get to talk to a fair number of people and i definitely pick that up. but girls have the right to work with who they want, nobody is drugging them up, so it's hard to feel that sorry for them. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!