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Old 07-28-2010, 12:50 PM   #1
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One Man One Vote - Abolish the Electoral College

So, why are the right wingers against abolishing the electoral college?

One man, one vote!
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:53 PM   #2
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People are always against the Electoral College when it doesn't go their way. When it works out for them, they suddenly love it.

I think it has its merits. I say keep it.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:57 PM   #3
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The Massachusetts Legislature completed action on the National Popular Vote bill [H 4156] and sent it to Governor Deval Patrick for his consideration.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:59 PM   #4
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The Electoral College, one of middle school?s most elusive mysteries, has been tossed into Boston Harbor, so to speak. Yesterday, the Massachusetts state legislature passed a bill stating that ?all 12 of the state's electoral votes would be awarded to the candidate who receives the most votes nationally,? according to The Boston Globe. Several states, including New Jersey, Hawaii and Maryland, have already enacted similar legislation. According to the chaotic National Popular Vote Web site, the ?National Popular Vote bill has been enacted into law in states possessing 61 electoral votes?23% of the 270 electoral votes needed to activate the legislation.?

The National Popular Vote initiative is the brainchild of John Koza, a Stanford engineering professor, and has been embraced by the editorial pages of several newspapers (The New York Times, The Chicago Sun-Times, The Los Angeles Times, etc.), as well as a number of former congressmen, including Tom Campbell (R-CA), a former contender in California?s Senate primary, and New York?s own Thomas Downey, a Democrat. As Nate Silver points out, as this is a bill that implies that the Constitution is flawed, right-leaning states have been slower to support it than their progressive neighbors.

Silver, of the not-yet-archaic FiveThirtyEight.com, would be more tangibly affected that anyone else should the legislation pass. ?For reasons that should be apparent, I?m going to take the fifth on whether I think the Compact is a good idea. But its chances of success, at least in the near-term, appear to me to be relatively slim,? he wrote, citing the initiative?s failure to win anywhere close to the necessary 270 electoral votes since the its inception in 2001. However, if there is one thing we learned from the electoral college?and it?s likely there is just one?it?s that winning the most votes does not necessarily mean victory.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:03 PM   #5
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I think it has its merits. I say keep it.
I agree, unless there was a basic test to vote, and I mean basic.. Questions like

How many Senators does each state have?

How many terms can the president be elected to?

How many branches of government do we have?

Because if you don't know those answers, I'm thinking you probably should get to pick the leader of the free world...
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:09 PM   #6
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One man, one vote?!?

You mean you only get to vote once...







Don't vote - it only encourages the politicians.

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Old 07-28-2010, 01:13 PM   #7
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We are a Republic not a Democracy. Democracy enslaves people.

Why is this movement happening? Because more and more people are fleeing failing progressive states like Mass, NY and Cali and ending up in states like Texas, NH. If you look at the est of the electoral college for 2012 you will see why progressives want to regress.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...election,_2012
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:39 PM   #8
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I agree, dump it. Then we can stop paying attention to NJ.
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Old 07-28-2010, 02:05 PM   #9
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I have said for a long time that the electoral college needs to go. It is outdated, encourages corruption, gives some people's votes too much power and others not enough and I feel it actually causes some people not to vote.

Let it be a popular vote just like every other election we have.
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