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Old 09-03-2010, 06:57 AM   #1
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This Epass situation should be a serious wake up call for a lot of people!

Get your finances in order! Don't live paycheck to paycheck. Save for a rainy day because there appears to be storms headed our way.
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Old 09-03-2010, 06:59 AM   #2
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Old 09-03-2010, 06:59 AM   #3
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Get your finances in order! Don't live paycheck to paycheck. Save for a rainy day because there appears to be storms headed our way.
I definetly agree with you on that but alot of people have ALOT of money in there just because they do alot of business. If I lose every cent ill still be able to make it but makes me sick to my stomach at the thought. I work HARD for my earnings.

This is rediculous to say the least.
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Old 09-03-2010, 07:15 AM   #7
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If I dont get my money, I would fuck somebody very hard!!!!
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Old 09-03-2010, 07:22 AM   #9
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No one will get the money back, they will say the same BS "we are working on it and expect things to be worked out quickly" and that BS will last until one day they just shut down.

Its the same old story, and we have seen this over and over the past few years.

Also frankly I do believe most programs rig the Nats and other programs in one way or another before they sent you the payments you will never get.

This whole 'industry' now is just about fucking each other over
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Well said Shap and happy b-day. It sucks to see so many people having money tied up in epassporte. I always pull my money out of epassporte as fast as it comes in. I was lucky to only have a very small amout in my account this time. I drive to the bank almost daily and pull all I can out and invest the cash the best way I know and save it.
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Well said Shap and happy b-day. It sucks to see so many people having money tied up in epassporte. I always pull my money out of epassporte as fast as it comes in. I was lucky to only have a very small amout in my account this time. I drive to the bank almost daily and pull all I can out and invest the cash the best way I know and save it.
Yup I always pull money out as soon as I get it.
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Lexington Steel coming in here and saying that has made my day
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lots of people here not making enough money to save up.
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Unfortunately, Im not surprised, it was just a matter of time. When they asked us 3 months ago to use like 3 different banks, we knew something was happening....

If you relied on epass, my advise is the same as Shap, run your life like you run your business - keep enough cash flow to handle small crises like this.
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Unfortunately, Im not surprised, it was just a matter of time. When they asked us 3 months ago to use like 3 different banks, we knew something was happening....

If you relied on epass, my advise is the same as Shap, run your life like you run your business - keep enough cash flow to handle small crises like this.
Dude you know no one on here saves for a rainy day lol
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Not disagreeing with you shap.

But i was thinking: What will happen to the big programs, now that probably 80% of the people will not be able to buy traffic, pay for hosting, and thus "promoting affiliates".

This can go verrrrry deep.

Whatcha think ?
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Old 09-03-2010, 08:22 AM   #21
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i def got some luck...
i normally have thousands in there.. but for some reason took it all out last week..
sucks for those affected..
either way, i think epass will sort this thing out.
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Just about every single foreign webmaster uses eppassporte and they are the majority of new affiliates.

This could be a bigger crissis then what took place with Ibill if it is doesn't resolve itself.
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I feel lucky that this happened now and not 4-5 years ago... My first year in Costa Rica epass was my only source of income, I didn't even have a bank account.

"Saving for a rainy day" is always good advice, especially when self employed.
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lol it's actually raining today .. Earl and Epass going down
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After talking to many affiliates it looks like they were using their epass as savings accounts.
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After talking to many affiliates it looks like they were using their epass as savings accounts.
epass has never been a bank, I can't understand why people would do that. I can understand it was good because of the ATM cards and the fact you didn't have to report income for most people but using it as a saving account ... that makes no sense.
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2 words: tax evasion
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Duh, no shit.

But don't hold your breath waiting for blowhards like (tube boy) Shap to address that reality intelligently.


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Kind of hard to save when you are barely making enough to pay bills. If people would have saved years ago sure, but these days its very tough to save anything.

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Kind of hard to save when you are barely making enough to pay bills. If people would have saved years ago sure, but these days its very tough to save anything.
I emailed you. Did you get it?
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You know what- this is an EXCELLENT opportunity for some new players to enter the market.

Been talking with a few affiliates, going to do all checks for everyone this period. A few people have been bouncing around payoneer, but no one seems to have payoneer accounts yet.

After epass what do you guys think is the widest adopted payment solution? In dating haven't had a problem with paying affiliates with paypal but sometimes the account gets temp frozen due to moving large amounts to non US webmasters, so I don't feel it's reliable for the long term / can take the place of offering epass.

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aw crap, I've got 2k in there. this is what I get from being lazy. shit.
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...run your life like you run your business - keep enough cash flow to handle small crises like this.
Then how can I buy my coke and hookers? That shit isn't cheap here in Florida you know.
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Isn't this good news for some webmasters in the long run? Imagine how much foreign competition will have to close up shop now that they are unable to be paid.
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Dude you know no one on here saves for a rainy day lol
Some of us did. So when it pissed down we were safe.

However a lot of people in this business don't make enough to save for a rainy day. And telling them to save from a lofty position can come across as arrogant to those guys.

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Not disagreeing with you shap.

But i was thinking: What will happen to the big programs, now that probably 80% of the people will not be able to buy traffic, pay for hosting, and thus "promoting affiliates".

This can go verrrrry deep.

Whatcha think ?
The traffic won't suddenly disappear, surfers will still be able to find porn. Maybe just not via some of the affiliates using Epass to pay bills.
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I totally agree. Along with that...never keep your money in one place, spread it around and always have some cash hidden away.
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its discovered just how much some people have "stored" in their accounts...

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