So whats a good CMS in these days for paysites?

[EscortBiz]

not in the mood of having something custom

just basic CMS that can update tours / members area / schedule etc

[Va2k]

I love awiz http://v6.awizsoft.com/index.php

[Zuzana Designs]

www.elevatedx.com

[AIbenjamink]

See sig

[JimmiDean]

ElevatedX.com
Done deal

[NemesisEnforcer]

Originally Posted by Fungus

I love awiz http://v6.awizsoft.com/index.php

I took over a few sites that are running aWiz and I was pleasantly surprised by this CMS. It does everything that the pricy CMS does and the support is very good.

[cwd]

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer

I took over a few sites that are running aWiz and I was pleasantly surprised by this CMS. It does everything that the pricy CMS does and the support is very good.

I second that.
Awiz is cheaper than most CMS and do the same job.
Support is fast.

[$tandaman]

http://www.PaysiteCMS.com

[plsureking]

yea shop around. people keep posting the same links to these crappy 1.0 technology cms on gfy. sorry folks but this isnt 1999. there are better ways to build a cms. anyone heard of modular or db-free? holy shit whats that??

see sig if u must bother me..

[pornguy]

Awiz or elevatedX.. Either way get with Czarina bout skinning them. She does amazing work.

[czarina]

Elevated X is, hands down the best CMS out there today. It does it all, is fully customizable and the support is great. (www.elevatedx.com)

[AIbenjamink]

Bottom Line :

As with any service or product, shop around and make an informed judgment for yourself.

Any reputable service would be more than happy to set up a demonstration for you to explore.

Drop their customer service an email, are you pleased with their response time and professionalism? Even for the simple questions?

Don't be afraid to ask questions, and don't be afraid to double check the answer. The answer to your question should contain knowledge, not a sales pitch.

I have more if necessary...

Good luck with your search!

[WeDesignet Lisa]

I have been learning to integrate elevatedx from Czarina and it's a breathtaking product. There are so many things it does that I doubt there is anything similar to it out there. All our clients are very happy with it, so I recommend it.

[EscortBiz]

Originally Posted by WeDesignet Lisa

I have been learning to integrate elevatedx from Czarina and it's a breathtaking product. There are so many things it does that I doubt there is anything similar to it out there. All our clients are very happy with it, so I recommend it.

appreciate it, did u try anything else thou

[Grisey]

Not sitedepth thats for sure

[FreeHugeMovies]

http://www.elevatedx.com/

[james_clickmemedia]

as with any "off the shelf" software be sure that you get good support included or find out what the cost is. Also be sure it does everything you want for the price and that is does not require extra add ons that increase the price.

You get what you pay for..

[JimmiDean]

If you have no customer support you can end up in real trouble.
ElevatedX have always been there for us 24-7.
That is our experience anyways.

[NemesisEnforcer]

Originally Posted by Grisey

Not sitedepth thats for sure

For damn sure!

[NemesisEnforcer]

Originally Posted by JimmiDean

If you have no customer support you can end up in real trouble.
ElevatedX have always been there for us 24-7.
That is our experience anyways.

I had a different experience with ElevatedX. On the phone, AJ told me that they didn't have enought time to give each customer attention. That's when we jumped ship and moved on to another product.

[TMM_Vlad]

Escort Biz,
Pleasure speaking with you about our content management system CARMA --If you have any other questions please feel free to hit me up at anytime.

Thanks!

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer

I took over a few sites that are running aWiz and I was pleasantly surprised by this CMS. It does everything that the pricy CMS does and the support is very good.

AWiz is a great out-of-the-box solution if you don't want custom. Now, if you NEED custom than any mass-market CMS will have its' drawbacks.

[AJHall]

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer

I had a different experience with ElevatedX. On the phone, AJ told me that they didn't have enought time to give each customer attention. That's when we jumped ship and moved on to another product.

Nobody likes being misquoted and I'm no exception to this.

We try to provide excellent support to our users and every client is given attention. Unfortunately as with any service there are times when the amount of support someone requires simply exceeds what can reasonably be provided.

The Elevated X CMS is not an entry level pay site solution and we assume that the users of our CMS have a basic Webmastering skillset. We're simply not equipped to become an extension of our client's business or become a concierge for site related matters outside of our CMS product.

This isn't something we make an attempt to hide. Anytime I speak with someone who is brand new to the business, brand new to pay sites or who I feel may not have the skillset required to use our product and be successful with it I make them aware of the fact that our time is limited and we may not be able to give them the amount of attention they need.

Our goal is not to have the biggest number of clients but the biggest number who are successful.

Anytime we're unable to meet a client's needs or expectations it's disappointing. I hope that whatever CMS solution you go with meets your needs.

AJ

[After Shock Media]

I have tried many of them, owned most.

Sitedepth is not super bad. It has some major hidden issues, and requires tons of tweaks. Support is hit and miss. Every so often the DB will just blow up, so do backup. Cheap, but has issues. Good for many small sites.

Awiz - Some swear by it. The documentation really sucks unless your 100% fluent in Engrish. Same goes for support, they are quick but are real bad with English so things can be frustrating.

Adult web ware - was fantastic. dead product now. Really a shame.

Carma - support is just like Nats. Integrates great into nats. Kind of pricey, hard to change in my opinion. Also seems to not have as many features as I am used to - again unless I could not understand the tweaking. Like nats the documentation center could use a little work.

Elevated X - So far my favorite. Very stable, great support using the ticket system. Does everything I can see the need for so far. No real issues yet. Only downside is I wish they had a more automated way to keep it licensed. Sometimes I am just not around when they mail me the key. Sort of a personal issue I suppose. I now have that forwarded to someone I trust to add to my site now in case I am not around.

[AJHall]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I have tried many of them, owned most.

Elevated X - So far my favorite. Very stable, great support using the ticket system. Does everything I can see the need for so far. No real issues yet. Only downside is I wish they had a more automated way to keep it licensed. Sometimes I am just not around when they mail me the key. Sort of a personal issue I suppose. I now have that forwarded to someone I trust to add to my site now in case I am not around.

The license keys are 100% automatic. If you get a key via email it means it failed which is a host/server issue. Hit me on ICQ or submit a ticket and we'll give you info to pass along to help resolve this.

[TMM_Vlad]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

I have tried many of them, owned most.

Carma - support is just like Nats. Integrates great into nats. Kind of pricey, hard to change in my opinion. Also seems to not have as many features as I am used to - again unless I could not understand the tweaking. Like nats the documentation center could use a little work.

Our pricing is comparable if not lower on monthly based CMS products-- $150/month along with a one-time set-up fee of $500 which includes installation, product training over the phone with tech, and support.

Yes it may have been just a smarty function that needed to be added into the template, if you are a current client contact support and they will able to take care of you.

We also offer an in-house templating service for those that need any custom work done.

Again, we welcome any of our clients to put a ticket in if they have any issues that need to be taken care of.

[RuthB]

We use ElevatedX and it works pretty good. I've used their support system too and don't have any complaints. They just added a new mobile feature too which looks pretty sweet. If you sign up now you'll get that free, definitely sweetens the pot a little on an already good CMS

[Playboy-Deak]

nice info in here.. will chck back to read!

[Les Grossman]

Originally Posted by plsureking

yea shop around. people keep posting the same links to these crappy 1.0 technology cms on gfy. sorry folks but this isnt 1999. there are better ways to build a cms. anyone heard of modular or db-free? holy shit whats that??

But if it works, does it matter how it is coded?

I have an older CMS that works like a charm, never breaks and does the job. A guy beating off doesn't care how it's coded. He cares about getting his updates.

Don't get too caught up in the tech hype that you forget why we are all doing this in the first place.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by AJHall

The license keys are 100% automatic. If you get a key via email it means it failed which is a host/server issue. Hit me on ICQ or submit a ticket and we'll give you info to pass along to help resolve this.

Well shit then. I will figure that out and get a ticket in. I just figured that was how it works.

[AJHall]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Well shit then. I will figure that out and get a ticket in. I just figured that was how it works.

No need for a ticket. Check your mail. I looked into it already and emailed you

[Mutt]

PornCMS looks good - is it available without hosting?

[lagcam]

Originally Posted by plsureking

yea shop around. people keep posting the same links to these crappy 1.0 technology cms on gfy. sorry folks but this isnt 1999. there are better ways to build a cms. anyone heard of modular or db-free? holy shit whats that??

see sig if u must bother me..

I was thinking of trying out porncms for a new project and then I saw a comment in your thread ranting over ccbill "fucking the industry" with their decline rates that stopped me:

Originally Posted by plsureking

i have a good vantage point monitoring over 100 sites on Porn CMS. i'm just reporting what i'm seeing thru my pessimistic eyes.

You mean that you have access to the sales data and declines for companies using PornCMS? Do these companies know this?

Personally I consider that information private. Cam you clarify my (mis)understanding?

[harvey]

I've worked with most if not all CMSs out there and I'd say the answer is anything that does the job and it's easy to customize without having to pay shitloads of money to the same script owner. We got so frustrated with many CMS scripts we started developing them by ourselves.... and they're way better, faster and featured-filled than any CMS out there, bar none. Of course, custom will always be better since you do what you need the way you want it and it will always work.

But on the standard CMSs, I see some of them that are quite good are really back with the times, others are up with the times but support limits with non-existent, not matter what they say. And others are totally outdated and support-less!

IMHO, anything that has 99% of its code zend'ed is a no-no. I mean, I understand, approve and support to have some core functions zend'ed, but some scripts goes over the top to avoid client-side customization. In these times when business changes every day and you need to make constant changes to try new things and approaches, I really don't understand the reason for 99% obscured code. I mean, I understand it and know why, but in the end, they'll many good clients just for trying to make a few more bucks

Again, just my humble opinion

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by czarina

Elevated X is, hands down the best CMS out there today. It does it all, is fully customizable and the support is great. (www.elevatedx.com)

Elevated X gets a lot of love of the boards, but we started converting our network to it in late winter...so far it was been a nightmare. The support isn't very good either.

[After Shock Media]

Originally Posted by AJHall

No need for a ticket. Check your mail. I looked into it already and emailed you

Thanks, problem solved or will be once we fix that server setting.

[NemesisEnforcer]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Elevated X gets a lot of love of the boards, but we started converting our network to it in late winter...so far it was been a nightmare. The support isn't very good either.

That's what I was trying to do and I couldn't find answers in their knowledgebase. Therefore, I tried asking questions on the phone but they didn't have time for us.

[Les Grossman]

Originally Posted by cwd

I second that.
Awiz is cheaper than most CMS and do the same job.
Support is fast.

Do you use Awiz?

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer

That's what I was trying to do and I couldn't find answers in their knowledgebase. Therefore, I tried asking questions on the phone but they didn't have time for us.

LOL. At least I am not the only one.

ElevatedX needs to step it up. I have a business to run.

[AJHall]

Originally Posted by NemesisEnforcer

That's what I was trying to do and I couldn't find answers in their knowledgebase. Therefore, I tried asking questions on the phone but they didn't have time for us.

NemesisEnforcer,
Your unhappiness with our support is completely understandable. While we do deal with support issues by phone (especially urgent issues or emergencies) unfortunately we're not able to provide quality tech support by phone and still put out our product at an affordable price. We have a ticket system that's checked periodically around the clock, SMS paging to our cell phones for emergency tickets and I'm able to field a lot of basic/general questions personally during the day via email or ICQ. That works well most of the time and we definitely try to accommodate everyone and handle things as best we can.

We're not perfect and as is the nature of any service/support based business there will be times when we fail to meet someone's needs. I'm sorry that you were one of those people and that your experience with us was a negative one.

I'm going to update our FAQ page tomorrow to provide more information on our support methods so no assumptions are made by potential users. Your negative experience could have been avoided if this was clear and you knew this up front.

Ultimately all we can do is strive to get better as our business grows and enhance our product and service so that the majority of our CMS users remain happy and the general tone of CMS posts related to Elevated X remains positive.

Originally Posted by xxxjay

Elevated X gets a lot of love of the boards, but we started converting our network to it in late winter...so far it was been a nightmare. The support isn't very good either.

Jay,
The love we get on boards comes from our average user. If you build a new program from scratch with our platform I'm sure you'll be singing its praises too. Not all clients are the same so a company like OC Cash with a massive 2 program migration project is far more demanding and may equal the routine support load of a few dozen of our "average" users. Getting these done is a juggling act and to be honest we won't likely be taking on as many of these total conversions in the future.

When you get into database conversion, content migration and bulk video encoding with developers working on both sides these projects are always messy. Trust that often it's a nightmare on our end as well. Stuff like this is never as quick or pretty as we'd like it to be and I'm sorry that you're dissatisfied to the point of wanting to make a public post about it and I'm more bothered that you felt this was needed to get our attention...

There have been many phone calls between us and members of your team and countless conversations with your developer (Munki) and many late nights spent working on your stuff throughout the process.

I know you guys are anxious and things are dragging but I can't let your statement "The support isn't very good either" go unanswered since the only true "support" issues you've had with your live Elevated X sites were given prompt attention.

If you want to say we're lagging on a huge multi-site migration that's had a lot of hurdles I won't argue but please don't say that our support isn't good.

I know you're frustrated but our speed on working on very large custom dev projects is no reflection on the way we handle tech support and while I can't argue that progress on your projects isn't as fast as we'd all like it to be, migrations like this account for a very small percentage of clients we service.

We'll call you guys tomorrow to discuss picking up the pace and hopefully move past this quickly.

AJ

[nata25]

Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Awiz - Some swear by it. The documentation really sucks unless your 100% fluent in Engrish. Same goes for support, they are quick but are real bad with English so things can be frustrating.

Someone always should make a blot on the landscape
Let me mention for esteemed public that Mrs. After Shock Media makes conclusions based on the 2,5 years old docs. It seem to be a pathological passion of some GFY-members to the "putrid news" Although right on the GFY were many times discussed that aWIZ scripts long long ago has new documentation written by US-writers. And the whole year it is mentioned right on the face of script site:
http://v6.awizsoft.com/
"The new Manual. Raving user reviews. See example"

As to the so-called "bad english". I found 64 (!) replies to After Shock Media requests, and all of em are in good-readable and understandable English, besides maybe some misprints... And BTW the language quality of aWIZ support also has been discussed here many times something like that:

i had just a question for the support, who answered my email in less than 10 minutes in GOOD ENGLISH and in fact the answer was right in the manual
i must admit that all the criticism i read on GFY about it being hard to use and the "broken english " is totally unfounded and must have been made by idiots who cannot alter their mindsets to try to understand "becouse" instead of "because".....

That's just a pure facts. However we are respecting the right of After Shock Media to continue telling tall tales

[nata25]

And two more cents in a whole.
When you read that someone tries to sully aWIZ, please remember that aWIZ is a FULLY FUNCTIONAL multi-paysites' system, stable and powerful, with high-end documentation, fast and effective support - which costs at least FIFTEEN times cheaper than any other solutions on the market. And in spite of this aWIZ guys are working hard to provide updates and full support to every customer even if he purchased the script 8 years ago! We never use "price comparison" as kick in the groin of other market products, but a bit of respect is the minimal "fee" we are hoping to get for our honest work to make industry people life simpler and expenses smaller.
Although it is a question of personal moral of each poster.

Any reasonable real remarks about aWIZ are always welcome, just not a flimflam.

[raven1083]

owesome!! what a new site to view more another...guess not all clients will appreciate yet that's all bussiness

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by AJHall

The Elevated X CMS is not an entry level pay site solution and we assume that the users of our CMS have a basic Webmastering skillset. We're simply not equipped to become an extension of our client's business or become a concierge for site related matters outside of our CMS product.

This isn't something we make an attempt to hide...

if anyone thinks this is ridiculous -- and/or thinks elevatedX is way overpriced -- Porn CMS IS an entry level paysite solution that is also working for a site that has over 1,000 videos and a network that has 45 sites. its feature set EXCEEDS eX and most others.

we spend a lot of time with all our customers, nubes or veterans. that elitist line from eX is bullshit and shouldn't be in this business.

as far as Carma and any other SMARTY based CMS, you shouldn't have to learn a new proprietary language just to change your template. and if you have to upload each CLIP of a video individually, your CMS is out of date.

im not bitter or afraid of a better solution. i tried them all before i built Porn CMS. i continue to try them all as new versions come out. if any of them were up to Fortune 500 corporate standards i would have used them or would recommend them.

the "best CMS in porn" isn't the best CMS.

[plsureking]

Originally Posted by lagcam

You mean that you have access to the sales data and declines for companies using PornCMS? Do these companies know this?

Personally I consider that information private. Cam you clarify my (mis)understanding?

we see numbers of any customers that have us manage their site, which is a lot. most of our customers have no idea what they are doing so we spend a lot of time helping them manage and market their paysites.

Originally Posted by Mutt

PornCMS looks good - is it available without hosting?

we also offer a full license but don't advertise it. having us host - or at least manage the server - is the best support you will get from any CMS.

along the same lines, we were actually thinking about going open-source with our basic CMS engine. Porn CMS is modular, which makes expansion unlimited. we could still make a lot of money just selling modules and the engine.

Originally Posted by AJHall

When you get into database conversion, content migration and bulk video encoding with developers working on both sides these projects are always messy. Trust that often it's a nightmare on our end as well. Stuff like this is never as quick or pretty as we'd like it to be and I'm sorry that you're dissatisfied to the point of wanting to make a public post about it and I'm more bothered that you felt this was needed to get our attention...

i've done several platform conversions in both porn and Korporate Ameriduh. it can be a crazy and difficult process. i feel your pain on both sides. it just sounds like u need a clear project schedule u can follow. if its taking this long, and there's this much frustration, it doesnt sound like it was planned well. its never too late to make a schedule and nail down a launch date.

[JimmiDean]

Well,
We stand behind elevatedX and the whole product.
The support we got while on a learning curve was fantastic and has gone far beyond what we hoped for.
The product is a little hard to learn but once you are there the whole thing is a breeze.
I know personally AJ has talked to me many times after hours on issues that did not really even involve his product.
A.J do you have time for a quick call Friday in regards to your mobile solution? I would like to get one of the programers on it ASAP.
Thanks

[Juggs]

What about that Paysite built on Wordpress someone was posting on the forum a bit ago. Seems simple and straight forward. Haven't tried it though.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by AJHall

We'll call you guys tomorrow to discuss picking up the pace and hopefully move past this quickly.

AJ

That is all I can ask from you guys.

[AJHall]

Originally Posted by xxxjay

That is all I can ask from you guys.

You have mail.The second program migration has been given priority.

Originally Posted by JimmiDean

Well,
We stand behind elevatedX and the whole product.
The support we got while on a learning curve was fantastic and has gone far beyond what we hoped for.
The product is a little hard to learn but once you are there the whole thing is a breeze.
I know personally AJ has talked to me many times after hours on issues that did not really even involve his product.
A.J do you have time for a quick call Friday in regards to your mobile solution? I would like to get one of the programers on it ASAP.
Thanks

Thanks for your support Jim. It's always appreciated. ICQ or email me and let me know what time is good for a call tomorrow and I'll call you.

AJ

[WeDesignet Lisa]

Originally Posted by EscortBiz

appreciate it, did u try anything else thou

yes, I've played with awiz and sitedepth and elevatedx seems to be much better