I got ridiculed for saying Old Spice was smarter at marketing than the adult industry.

[stocktrader23]

Watch the view count on this video folks. If you had been the first to do it, your site would be the one getting millions of new eyeballs for chump change. The video is currently in the early stages of going viral, it will explode and you will have missed another golden opportunity.

Be creative, get dollars.

[stocktrader23]

http://twitter.com/search?q=the%20wo...to%20be%20like

[KillerK]

creative video, but it's for people in england right?

[borked]

yeah, but that is a damn well-made advert. The UK is full of them and (imo) has the best advertising creators in the world.

How much did that cost to create?

Could you afford a good advertising creator to create a viral youtube ad for you?

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by borked

yeah, but that is a damn well-made advert. The UK is full of them and (imo) has the best advertising creators in the world.

How much did that cost to create?

Could you afford a good advertising creator to create a viral youtube ad for you?

There are companies here that could pay whatever this cost. I'm positive it would be worth it for the right people.

However, there are tons of viral videos that cost next to nothing to make. That wasn't even my original point though. Creative, outside the box thinking makes money. I haven't seen much if any of that from this industry in a long damn time.

Original thread for reference.

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=978712

[Agent 488]

well do it then. anyone can talk. go ahead genius.

[Agent 488]

if an adult industry has the $ to hire Wieden + Kennedy http://www.wk.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wieden%2BKennedy i'm sure they can get similar results.

their ad campaign has cost 3 mil so far. http://www.mahalo.com/wieden-kennedy

god why do i even click on your moron threads.

[MetaMan]

So why dont you do it?

[BIGTYMER]

Shes a cutie.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

if an adult industry has the $ to hire Wieden + Kennedy http://www.wk.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wieden%2BKennedy i'm sure they can get similar results.

their ad campaign has cost 3 mil so far. http://www.mahalo.com/wieden-kennedy

god why do i even click on your moron threads.

Look idiot, it's obvious you can't comprehend what I'm saying so just shut the fuck up and find a tit post thread to participate in.

This could have been achieved with a pretty popular solo girl and cardboard cutouts for something in the 5 figure or less range. If you don't think so then you don't know shit. Also, it doesn't even have to be something exactly parodying Old Spice, there are shitpiles of viral videos / promotions that cost a few DOLLARS to make.

Who was in the video and what their ad campaign that probably covers a lot more than a YouTube video is fucking irrelevant.

Christ you are dense.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by MetaMan

So why dont you do it?

I don't own a solo girl program or any that would make this relevant. I do viral marketing for my own stuff all the time.

[MrBottomTooth]

Everyone probably ridiculed you for preaching to them instead of just minding your own shit and worrying about your own business. No one likes to be talked down to or preached at.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Look idiot, it's obvious you can't comprehend what I'm saying so just shut the fuck up and find a tit post thread to participate in.

This could have been achieved with a pretty popular solo girl and cardboard cutouts for something in the 5 figure or less range. If you don't think so then you don't know shit. Also, it doesn't even have to be something exactly parodying Old Spice, there are shitpiles of viral videos / promotions that cost a few DOLLARS to make.

Who was in the video and what their ad campaign that probably covers a lot more than a YouTube video is fucking irrelevant.

Christ you are dense.

do it then. make video. get viral. make bank and throw the results in our faces.

[MetaMan]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I don't own a solo girl program or any that would make this relevant. I do viral marketing for my own stuff all the time.

ya but the majority of adult webmasters were never creative. you cant tell an uncreative person "ok be creative". it is just not how it works.

certain people have the capacity others do not.

there is no way that i have ever talked about my successful campaigns ever. nor would i ever talk about any of my successful marketing techniques. never.

no matter how obvious or not. leading 1 sheep usually brings the flock with it.

so why lead them towards what you do?

i will still catchup with you oneday on skype, im in selfish mode for christmas here. ignoring everyone atm so i can be on point.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Look idiot, it's obvious you can't comprehend what I'm saying so just shut the fuck up and find a tit post thread to participate in.

This could have been achieved with a pretty popular solo girl and cardboard cutouts for something in the 5 figure or less range. If you don't think so then you don't know shit. Also, it doesn't even have to be something exactly parodying Old Spice, there are shitpiles of viral videos / promotions that cost a few DOLLARS to make.

Who was in the video and what their ad campaign that probably covers a lot more than a YouTube video is fucking irrelevant.

Christ you are dense.

i'll give you a hint though. sure the video production cost close to nothing, but the idea behind it costs millions. and that is above the pay grade of most of adult, let alone a solo girl site owner. not mentioning you.

[BlackCrayon]

well old spice already was a popular worldwide brand. you couldn't do something like this in adult because you;d be deleted off youtube..

[BJ]

hey don't mess with stocktrader23, he's been in the game since 98'. If him and Will76 combined efforts they'd be the next Accenture.

[Agent 488]

woulda/coulda/shoulda.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

do it then. make video. get viral. make bank and throw the results in our faces.

I've sent many things viral, none of them were porn. I don't rub in what I do because as Meta suggests others like to borrow ideas.

[Jdoughs]

Oldspice (Proctor & Gamble) made several big corporate moves the year following the ad campaign.

Results sure make it look like it was all the Ad Campaign but in reality it was more then just great timing with a great ad. The businessmen behind the company made some big moves that same year that helped solidify the growth from the ads.

Was a great campaign, backed up with great timing.

[Intrinsic]

This isnt Old Spice, this is The Sun copying old spice, so who's the creative ones now?

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by Intrinsic

This isnt Old Spice, this is The Sun copying old spice, so who's the creative ones now?

Being creative does not mean being original. Getting millions of new eyeballs to your website / product is a damn good end result. So you wouldn't take a few million new hits if you had to copy someone?

[Maxi]

It's only got 5000 views and won't go viral because it's an uninteresting imitation of the old spice ad.

If they wanted it to go viral the girl should have been more interesting and instead of being on a car she should have been on a shark with lazerbeam turrets attached to it riding on a raptor.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by Maxi

It's only got 5000 views and won't go viral because it's an uninteresting imitation of the old spice ad.

YouTube freezes view counts on popular videos. This thing will be in the 7 figures very soon. Don't bet against it you goof.

[Agent 488]

just looked at the ad. lame.

[georgeyw]

To me that's not the type of video i'd pass on to anyone. Nothing about it is interesting enough to make me want to, the chic is good looking but irritating to listen to, nothing that happens in the video is funny or appealing.

It's well made etc but can't see it being viral personally.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by georgeyw

To me that's not the type of video i'd pass on to anyone. Nothing about it is interesting enough to make me want to, the chic is good looking but irritating to listen to, nothing that happens in the video is funny or appealing.

It's well made etc but can't see it being viral personally.

Good thing what you would do is fucking irrelevant.

http://twitter.com/#search?q=the%20w...to%20be%20like

[lagcam]

Originally Posted by BJ

hey don't mess with stocktrader23, he's been in the game since 98'. If him and Will76 combined efforts they'd be the next Accenture.

I sometimes think that they are the same person.

Both always seem to know more than anybody else about any given subject, and both are always on the look out for backers for their huge projects or consultancy work. Coincidence?

You would also think that a professional disector and debator like Will would be all over stocktrader's threads...... curious.

[georgeyw]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Good thing what you would do is fucking irrelevant.

http://twitter.com/#search?q=the%20w...to%20be%20like

Good to see you understand what you're preaching

Fucking moron.

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by lagcam

I sometimes think that they are the same person.

Both always seem to know more than anybody else about any given subject, and both are always on the look out for backers for their huge projects or consultancy work. Coincidence?

You would also think that a professional disector and debator like Will would be all over stocktrader's threads...... curious.

Don't be a fucking idiot. Will76 was on my nuts about a week ago, I don't know the guy aside from GFY even though he lives in the same state.

PS, I am a smart ass but I try to make people around here think several times a fucking week. I care about making money first and foremost. The problem with this board is that people do to much fucking around and not enough program discussion. Pissing back and forth is fine but blowing off what I say because I rub it in your face makes you foolish.

Only an idiot would argue that a solo girl couldn't have been promoted in the same manner as this Page 3 shit. It could have been done long ago when the first video was still making the rounds. It would have been highly beneficial to anyone that did it. I am trying to spark a business debate in some form or another around here and 92% of people that respond do so to troll or talk shit. It's absolutely insane considering the state of this industry.

[lagcam]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

........blowing off what I say because I rub it in your face makes you foolish.

This is the kind of thing that most of us foolish idiots don't like. The fact that you are constantly assuming that nobody knows as much as you, or that nobody else is capable of original thinking.

You are clearly knowledgeable, make some decent threads, and some very decent points, but the arrogance of your delivery and inability to comprehend other peoples' viewpoints often detract from how good your ideas and points are......exactly what I think Will who is also very knowledgeable does also.

Btw, you thread title is actually a bit stupid, In addition to comparing apples (a particular "company") with oranges (an entire unrelated "industry"), you have really missed the point here on what that video is advertising.

Ironically, I think more people are going to be going to the Sun's page 3 site or an adult site than searching for an Old Spice stockist, so I make that a win for the Sex industry personally

[cocainer]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Watch the view count on this video folks. If you had been the first to do it, your site would be the one getting millions of new eyeballs for chump change. The video is currently in the early stages of going viral, it will explode and you will have missed another golden opportunity.

Be creative, get dollars.

australian girls smell like dog shit

[Agent 488]

you would make more money shutting your trap. you are like will76 who is begging for work on here here but no one will bite because he acts like such an inbred on the boards.

and if you had any practical knowledge of adult internet promotions you would know that 97% of the internet does not allow anything even remotely associated to adult in any form so comparing mainstream promotions to adult is at best naive, and at worst stupid. which one are you?

[stocktrader23]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

you would make more money shutting your trap. you are like will76 who is begging for work on here here but no one will bite because he acts like such an inbred on the boards.

and if you had any practical knowledge of adult internet promotions you would know that 97% of the internet does not allow anything even remotely associated to adult in any form so comparing mainstream promotions to adult is at best naive, and at worst stupid. which one are you?

YouTube does not touch videos of a clothed girl giving her name much like they won't touch this video of a half naked girl promoting Page 3.

Stop being a simple minded idiot, please?

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

The video is currently in the early stages of going viral, it will explode and you will have missed another golden opportunity.

Meh. It won't do anything like the original.

IMHO You cannot just badly copy a brilliant advert, add tits, and call that 'creative'.

It's theft. And it misses the points of why the first one worked. Namely, the copy writing.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

I do viral marketing for my own stuff all the time.

Links or GTFO.

[will76]

Originally Posted by BJ

hey don't mess with stocktrader23, he's been in the game since 98'. If him and Will76 combined efforts they'd be the next Accenture.

thanks for the vote of confidence. If I ever need help selling snake oil to people I will consult with you, that is one thing I know nothing about and would need help.

[will76]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

The problem with this board is that people do to much fucking around and not enough program discussion. Pissing back and forth is fine but blowing off what I say because I rub it in your face makes you foolish.

the problem with this board is that it is full of a bunch of idiots and when someone who actually has some intelligence tries to share it with everyone else the other people get pissed and call that person "know it all". They rather fight back and try to make fun of the person helping then actually listening and learning something. If you don't like someone's free advice or view point you should be thankfull they shared it, not feel the need to belittle them. I guess when you step on someone's ecock they get mad. Like this BJ asshole in this thread. I've never commented on him before, didn't even remember seeing him post on her in the post but he nothing better to do then worry about me and what I have to say.

[pornguy]

Why do you need to hire someone to mad an ad that will go viral.. most of the viral ads were made by people at home that were creative.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by pornguy

Why do you need to hire someone to mad an ad that will go viral.. most of the viral ads were made by people at home that were creative.

i hope you really don't believe that. not in 2010 anyway.

[TheLegacy]

I do agree with you, but the adult industry has a stigma attached to it that the common household in the bible belt will fight. So social acceptance is on their side

[Wizzo]

As viral as their videos may be, sales are down of their products. Which the real goal of marketing is to make sales not lose them...

[will76]

Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Stop being a simple minded idiot, please?

Im going to give you some of the best advice anyone on here can give you. Put Agent88 and the rest of the people who have nothing better to do then reply with the bashing and trolling bullshit on ignore. If people have different view points and want to debate great, spend time debating with them if you want. But every minute you spend replying back to these trolls you just hurting yourself and wasting your own time. Not to mention they bring you down to their level and they get a kick out of seeing you get worked up and waste your time. Most of them are losers, they are here for mere amusement. Some people are legit, ok people but for some reason they don't like you and never have anything good to say so you better off ignoring them too. You are never going to change their minds if anything it just gets them more worked up and inclined to follow you around and make idiot comments in all of your threads.

I give people 3 or 4 shots at being an asshole then they hit my ignore list. I turn the tables and laugh at them every time they reply in my threads since I can't see it, they wasting their time now and not bringing me down. If people feel I am an asshole and they don't like what I have to say I would expect them to do the same to me and just ignore me.

[CaptainHowdy]

Originally Posted by cocainer

australian girls smell like dog shit

...

[Klen]

Huge views on ad don't guarantee huge sales.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by TheLegacy

I do agree with you, but the adult industry has a stigma attached to it that the common household in the bible belt will fight. So social acceptance is on their side

exactly. even if the viral is itself swf, if the end point leads back to adult a large part of the internet will not reference it, thus it will never get the viral traction and saturation a mainstream viral will get, so thus comparing adult to mainstream virals is ridiculous.

but hey stockgenius23 is going to educate all us dummies doing practical work and testing every day in adult with his revolutionary theoretical ideas. so get the fuck out of the way.

[ottopottomouse]

That's the most shit video i've wasted 44 seconds on all day.

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Wizzo

As viral as their videos may be, sales are down of their products. Which the real goal of marketing is to make sales not lose them...

When you say "sales are down" if you mean "sales are up", then yes, I agree.

http://mashable.com/2010/07/27/old-spice-sales/

http://www.brandweek.com/bw/content_...56568a2acd5c7b

[DrewClement]

I wish people paid me millions just to copy the idea of someone else.

Seriously, I cant even believe they had the audacity at the end to say "SPICING up your day"....

how much more unoriginal can you get?

[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

That's the most shit video i've wasted 44 seconds on all day.

It's from the fucking Sun. Dur.

Just that stockblocker chap confuses mainstream with adult and creativity with theft. Seemingly.