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Old 06-19-2017, 06:45 AM   #1
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My Chaturbate Stats after 9 Months & 400k uniques

So last September I decided to give Chaturbate a try even though I've never done well with Cams. I was almost completely done with paysites (will be soon since they don't convert anymore) and dating is all that was left.

The image below show my results:



Dismal really. 1/3 of a cent per click or 0.003/click EPC

Free regs are ultra low and earnings are too. Actually, I got lucky in November and had 2 big spenders spend a few thousand in a short period of time. That was it for my income. Without them, I'd have almost nothing to show for the 400k + clicks.

My traffic came mainly from Amateur blogs and freesites (Mix of SEO, Social, Bookmarks, Galleries etc...) and so it wasn't targeted to cams at all. This likely explains my lack of results. I also sent to both a lander and to the CB site directly. No difference.

I thought I'd give it a try though since general amateur traffic did well (at one point) for many niches of paysites and dating sites as well.

Some people here on GFY seem to be doing well with CB so I can't say anything negative about the program, especially with my non-targeted traffic.

Just sharing since I appreciate when others share their results with the rest of the community too.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:52 AM   #2
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Never was a big fan, too many leaks and CB branding within the white labels they offer.
That being said, some do well with them, I never did.

My tier 1 traffic converts MUCH better with an other program.


mopek1, are you selling traffic or link spots?
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This is 9 months for me. Chaturbate seems to be on the up and up.

https://i.imgur.com/znslL7v.jpg


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So last September I decided to give Chaturbate a try even though I've never done well with Cams. I was almost completely done with paysites (will be soon since they don't convert anymore) and dating is all that was left.

The image below show my results:



Dismal really. 1/3 of a cent per click or 0.003/click EPC

Free regs are ultra low and earnings are too. Actually, I got lucky in November and had 2 big spenders spend a few thousand in a short period of time. That was it for my income. Without them, I'd have almost nothing to show for the 400k + clicks.

My traffic came mainly from Amateur blogs and freesites (Mix of SEO, Social, Bookmarks, Galleries etc...) and so it wasn't targeted to cams at all. This likely explains my lack of results. I also sent to both a lander and to the CB site directly. No difference.

I thought I'd give it a try though since general amateur traffic did well (at one point) for many niches of paysites and dating sites as well.

Some people here on GFY seem to be doing well with CB so I can't say anything negative about the program, especially with my non-targeted traffic.

Just sharing since I appreciate when others share their results with the rest of the community too.
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:49 AM   #4
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:06 AM   #5
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which is which, the 7k column and the 1400 column? dont use them so i dont know
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:09 AM   #6
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This is 9 months for me. Chaturbate seems to be on the up and up.

https://i.imgur.com/znslL7v.jpg
Some nice work. Do you send to white labels or straight to Chaturbate?
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Old 06-19-2017, 09:34 AM   #7
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This is 9 months for me. Chaturbate seems to be on the up and up.

https://i.imgur.com/znslL7v.jpg
So you have about 13 X as much traffic sent as I do to CB for that 9 month period.

And, only 6 X the amount of free reg which means I have more free registrations per 1000/hits.

You: 1:3252 free registrations
Me: 1:1553 free registrations

Income- wise:

You: 0.005 cents/click
Me: 0.003 cents per click

So you make more than I do per click.

Question is; are you happy with those stats? Not the dollar amount but the performance?

And what type of traffic if you don't mind me asking?
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You should give us a try. With this kind of traffic you would have done much more with us.

Check out below the stats of one of our affiliate.



where 5080 is the number of installs (this affiliate has a install ratio way below the average by the way) and $7711 is the 50% share of total income.
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Never was a big fan, too many leaks and CB branding within the white labels they offer.
That being said, some do well with them, I never did.

My tier 1 traffic converts MUCH better with an other program.


mopek1, are you selling traffic or link spots?
Which one if you do not mind telling.

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which is which, the 7k column and the 1400 column? dont use them so i dont know
$7k is gross sales
$1,400 is my income from it.
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You both are doing it very well. I have a lot of more registrations but not so many spenders. It's all about the quality of the traffic.
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Old 06-19-2017, 11:54 AM   #12
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You both are doing it very well. I have a lot of more registrations but not so many spenders. It's all about the quality of the traffic.
You think 0.005 or less is doing well?

I'm not being sarcastic or anything ... just wondering what 'doing well' is with cams.
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Old 06-19-2017, 12:19 PM   #13
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Old 06-19-2017, 12:35 PM   #14
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if you want to see my stats check out the long chaturbate thread they have since gone up!
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Old 06-19-2017, 01:28 PM   #16
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Thanks for the share. 22 million hits!

That's 0.001 EPC - So 1/10th of a cent per click.

So far in this thread these are low EPCs compared to what I've seen everyone do with paysites, dating and cams past or present.
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This is 9 months for me. Chaturbate seems to be on the up and up.

https://i.imgur.com/znslL7v.jpg
Nice stats. Hope you don't mind when I use them for my tutorial.
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You think 0.005 or less is doing well?

I'm not being sarcastic or anything ... just wondering what 'doing well' is with cams.
I mean you have nice earnings with only 282 free registrations.
Are those real "clicks" or popunders and embedded iframes?


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My traffic came mainly from Amateur blogs and freesites (Mix of SEO, Social, Bookmarks, Galleries etc...) and so it wasn't targeted to cams at all. This likely explains my lack of results. I also sent to both a lander and to the CB site directly. No difference.
There are more possibilities. Redirect your traffic to a model room. Just try. It gives maybe better results.
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When it comes to webcams, it's very hit and miss for me. Most cam networks are a complete disaster with my traffic and I don't know why. When it works though, it works very well. I miss the days of iFriends.

At least dating is somewhat reliable.

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That is horrible, and it is obviously not going to be any better, mines are way below red lines too. Good thing you had some whales.
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Never was a big fan, too many leaks and CB branding within the white labels they offer.
Google bans white labels left and right. The only way to get SE traffic to a cam site is to make your own one with your own design, your structure/navigation, spun description, your own ads etc. I mean something like this: http://gfy.com/21835426-post21.html
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Nice stats. Hope you don't mind when I use them for my tutorial.
You can. I do well by them. I don't do well with anything else.
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Database saturation and what date you started from matter too

Any ''so called'' lifetime program is the same in that aspect. You have to understand that you need to find a person that makes (or is) a new account.
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I mean you have nice earnings with only 282 free registrations.
Are those real "clicks" or popunders and embedded iframes?




There are more possibilities. Redirect your traffic to a model room. Just try. It gives maybe better results.
Those are real clicks from text links with the word chat or cam in them so people know they will be seeing something in the general area of webcamming.
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At least dating is somewhat reliable.

Best of luck.
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Thanks.

Good to see you pop into a thread from time to time.

Dating seems to be more reliable for me as well. I just checked the stats for a secondary dating sponsor that I send to for the same time frame and I made the same money $1400 with about 1/4 of the clicks.
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Thanks.

Good to see you pop into a thread from time to time.

Dating seems to be more reliable for me as well. I just checked the stats for a secondary dating sponsor that I send to for the same time frame and I made the same money $1400 with about 1/4 of the clicks.
I do pop in to the business / SEO threads from time to time, but these days I've been working a lot that I haven't had a chance to visit GFY as often as I'd like.
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So last September I decided to give Chaturbate a try even though I've never done well with Cams. I was almost completely done with paysites (will be soon since they don't convert anymore) and dating is all that was left.

The image below show my results:



Dismal really. 1/3 of a cent per click or 0.003/click EPC

Free regs are ultra low and earnings are too. Actually, I got lucky in November and had 2 big spenders spend a few thousand in a short period of time. That was it for my income. Without them, I'd have almost nothing to show for the 400k + clicks.

My traffic came mainly from Amateur blogs and freesites (Mix of SEO, Social, Bookmarks, Galleries etc...) and so it wasn't targeted to cams at all. This likely explains my lack of results. I also sent to both a lander and to the CB site directly. No difference.

I thought I'd give it a try though since general amateur traffic did well (at one point) for many niches of paysites and dating sites as well.

Some people here on GFY seem to be doing well with CB so I can't say anything negative about the program, especially with my non-targeted traffic.

Just sharing since I appreciate when others share their results with the rest of the community too.
Like most cam sites, they skim sales like there is no tomorrow.

They dish out sales to a select few and skim the low producing, low traffic affiliates because most newbies won't pull links after putting them all up.
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putting permanent links to affiliate programs is first and the biggest mistake

the simplest method is to use ssl or php includes

enable it for all html files

and put
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or in php (enable php in html)
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<?php virtual ("/ads/ad2.html"); ?>


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You wasted a lot of traffic, that's for sure.
It seems so. But I needed to try.
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Like most cam sites, they skim sales like there is no tomorrow.

They dish out sales to a select few and skim the low producing, low traffic affiliates because most newbies won't pull links after putting them all up.
I can't say for sure if that happened to me (re: skim) but I will be pulling links soon and replacing them with dating links.
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putting permanent links to affiliate programs is first and the biggest mistake

the simplest method is to use ssl or php includes

enable it for all html files

and put
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or in php (enable php in html)
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<?php virtual ("/ads/ad2.html"); ?>


most programs shave as hell
partnerships are no longer lifetime
Agreed, my links are not permanent. Learned that lesson in 2005
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Thanks for the share. 22 million hits!

That's 0.001 EPC - So 1/10th of a cent per click.

So far in this thread these are low EPCs compared to what I've seen everyone do with paysites, dating and cams past or present.
They count embeds as clicks... (really stupid)... so the actual number is WAAAY lower...
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They count embeds as clicks... (really stupid)... so the actual number is WAAAY lower...
So how do we figure the real hits number? or is there just no way to do it?
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When it comes to webcams, it's very hit and miss for me. Most cam networks are a complete disaster with my traffic and I don't know why. When it works though, it works very well. I miss the days of iFriends.

At least dating is somewhat reliable.

Best of luck.
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Not sure how it compares but I'm at just under 2 cents per each unique IP visit with Camdough.

Each unique IP visit generates 6 raw clicks.
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I guess this may be quite representative if it's generic traffic.
Trying something else related to converting cams now.

Btw. depending on the structure of your traffic and these blogs and sites I may have a very clean way to add some extra revenue (with likely higher ECPM than in this case for example). There could be also more we could do at the free site part.

Let's connect at cb at ctgmedia net and have a short chat
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How much work did it take and how much did the blogs earn in other sales?
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How much work did it take and how much did the blogs earn in other sales?
I do the same amount of work daily so that doesn't change no matter which program I'm pushing. It's just a matter of taking the time to evaluate the program and adding the links t my network which I do once.

In other sales, porn is almost bust and dating is still doing okay. For the same traffic I'd say dating is doing 3-5 times better in terms of EPC.
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Mopek, what dating sponsor do you recommend? I haven't pushed dating since Adultfriendfinder.
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$7k is gross sales
$1,400 is my income from it.
So in 9 months you only made $1400? Wow. In that time period you would have earned more promoting my paysites.

Say $50 a week x 36 and that's $1800. $50 a week is about 2-4 sales (depending on which price point they choose).

$0.05 EPC? Amazing anyone is making anything with those numbers. The amount of traffic you have to throw at something like that must be enormous!

Also: I upsell cams in my Members Areas and I have a couple white labels. I swap out links every few months to keep the Sponsors 'honest'.
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Mopek, what dating sponsor do you recommend? I haven't pushed dating since Adultfriendfinder.
Sure.

DateProfits
Medley
TrafficGoldMine
AdultDateLink

I'm sure there are other good ones too but those are who i use right now.
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So in 9 months you only made $1400? Wow. In that time period you would have earned more promoting my paysites.
I know. It's peanuts.

Year after year my conversions for everything go down and the only reason I'm still in the game somewhat is because of dating. That too is on the decline but it's declining at a much slower rate than everything else.

I'm about to let go of the last 2 paysites (within the year for sure) I push, as they convert at around 1:4500 and they are HIGHLY targeted to the amateur niche.

I'll be looking to mainstream at one point but don't have the time for the jump just yet.
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i have ratio 1:500 to whitelabel
from chat banner, no blind, no popups, general traffic all countries
this is bad, few years ago i had 1:100


what is your current ratio for non pop traffic ?
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