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Old 08-10-2017, 07:06 PM   #1
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China warns Trump: we will defend North Korea!

So China has just given Trump an ultimatum. If North Korea attacks first, China will be neutral. If Trump attacks first, China will defend North Korea.

Fuck China! Fucking cowards always pulling shit via North Korea and saying bullshit via their state run newspapers 😠

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China says they will stay neutral if North Korea attacks first | Reuters

BEIJING (Reuters) - If North Korea launches an attack that threatens the United States then China should stay neutral, but if the United States attacks first and tries to overthrow North Korea's government China will stop then, a Chinese state-run newspaper said on Friday.

President Donald Trump ratcheted up his rhetoric toward North Korea and its leader on Thursday, warning Pyongyang against attacking Guam or U.S. allies after it disclosed plans to fire missiles over Japan to land near the U.S. Pacific territory.

China, North Korea's most important ally and trading partner, has reiterated calls for calm during the current crisis. It has expressed frustration with both Pyongyang's repeated nuclear and missile tests and with behavior from South Korea and the United States that it sees as escalating tensions.

The widely-read state-run Global Times, published by the ruling Communist Party's official People's Daily, wrote in an editorial that Beijing is not able to persuade either Washington or Pyongyang to back down.

"It needs to make clear its stance to all sides and make them understand that when their actions jeopardize China's interests, China will respond with a firm hand," said the paper, which does not represent government policy.

"China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten U.S. soil first and the U.S. retaliates, China will stay neutral," it added.

"If the U.S. and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so."

China has long worried that any conflict on the Korean peninsula, or a repeat of the 1950-53 Korean war, could unleash a wave of detribalizing refugees into its northeast, and could end up with a reunified county allied with the United States.

North Korea is a useful buffer state for China between it and U.S. forces based in South Korea, and also across the sea in Japan.

The Global Times said China will "firmly resist any side which wants to change the status quo of the areas where China's interests are concerned".

"The Korean Peninsula is where the strategic interests of all sides converge, and no side should try to be the absolute dominator of the region."
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Escalating madness.

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The Global Times said China will "firmly resist any side which wants to change the status quo of the areas where China's interests are concerned".
they are full of shit. As I pointed out China has much trade with South Korea and Japan



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"China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten U.S. soil first and the U.S. retaliates, China will stay neutral," it added.
Guam IS US 'soil' Guam is a US territory and also a major military base in the Pacific.
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Escalating madness.



they are full of shit. As I pointed out China has much trade with South Korea and Japan





Guam IS US 'soil' Guam is a US territory and also a major military base in the Pacific.
So, put it together. If NK launches towards Guam first, they are fucked.

If Trump acts preemptively, all bets are off; as should be.
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That was not a message to the US but a message to North Korea. You just read it wrong.
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So China has just given Trump an ultimatum. If North Korea attacks first, China will be neutral. If Trump attacks first, China will defend North Korea.

Fuck China! Fucking cowards always pulling shit via North Korea and saying bullshit via their state run newspapers ��

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What is your problem with that .... Wouldn't the US stand by the side of their ally, South Korea ?
Why would China do any different, once the USA starts an another selective war?

Seems the US needs to start one every 10 to 15 years ,,,,
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they are full of shit. As I pointed out China has much trade with South Korea and Japan





Guam IS US 'soil' Guam is a US territory and also a major military base in the Pacific.
Notice how if we're attacked first China will be neutral and if we attack first China will be our enemy? China just proved what I've said all along, NK is their puppet. They will be neutral if NK attacks us first fucking bullshit

China never did this shit with any other president. They know Trump is our weakest president ever, and a paper dragon.
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What is your problem with that .... Wouldn't the US stand by the side of their ally, South Korea ?
Why would China do any different, once the USA starts an another selective war?

Seems the US needs to start one every 10 to 15 years ,,,,
It's not about starting a war. Set your bias of the USA aside.

It's about China being "neutral" if NK attacks us, instead of condemning an attack by NK.

China just gave NK a pass to do whatever they want with no intervention or condemnation by China, as China will be "neutral". Fuck China the fucking cowards. They've just upped the anti by drawing this line in the sand.

You'd better believe China is going to violate the sanctions, like they always do. Liars
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That was not a message to the US but a message to North Korea. You just read it wrong.
Incorrect.

"If North Korea launches an attack that threatens the United States then China should stay neutral, but if the United States attacks first and tries to overthrow North Korea's government China will stop then, a Chinese state-run newspaper said on Friday."
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So, put it together. If NK launches towards Guam first, they are fucked.

If Trump acts preemptively, all bets are off; as should be.
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Who the fuck could blame China for that? I'd fully expect Russia to step in as well.

USA attack NK then China will be swamped with refugees, any fall out if nukes are used is highly likely to blow Chinas or Russia's way. It has potential to fuck China for years.

IF USA do attack, once the dust settles, who rebuilds NK?

China? heheh, Don't make it a slow death Americans just take a few nukes, make kim a King and be done with it.
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China just gave NK a pass to do whatever they want with no intervention or condemnation by China, as China will be "neutral".
I disagree.

That's China saying "We won't save you from US retaliation if you strike first." The world would give the US a free pass to level NK should that happen.

I think China is probably right in condemning any plan to strike NK first. Such a move would put everyone at risk of WW3 as it would be seen as a power play by the US.
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Who the fuck could blame China for that? I'd fully expect Russia to step in as well.

USA attack NK then China will be swamped with refugees, any fall out if nukes are used is highly likely to blow Chinas or Russia's way. It has potential to fuck China for years.

IF USA do attack, once the dust settles, who rebuilds NK?

China? heheh, Don't make it a slow death Americans just take a few nukes, make kim a King and be done with it.
China just said they will let NK attack us and do nothing to support America, they will stay neutral.

That is my point.

No allie will say they'll stand by and let someone attack us.

Trump is weak, China knows Trump is weak, and now they're going in for world dominance and letting NK attack us with no repercussions.
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China just said they will let NK attack us and do nothing to support America, they will stay neutral.

That is my point.

No allie will say they'll stand by and let someone attack us.

Trump is weak, China knows Trump is weak, and now they're going in for world dominance and letting NK attack us with no repercussions.
Your reading comprehension sucks. That is not what they said.
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All our Western allies will all stick together and BAN Chinese products fuck all of you!
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Australia would support United States in conflict, Malcolm Turnbull says

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says if North Korea launches an attack on the United States, Australia will join the conflict.

"America stands by its allies, including Australia of course, and we stand by the United States," Mr Turnbull told 3AW.

"So be very, very clear on that. If there's an attack on the US, the ANZUS Treaty would be invoked and Australia would come to the aid of the United States, as America would come to our aid if we were attacked."

"But be under no misapprehension, in terms of defence, we are joined at the hip," he said.

"The American alliance is the absolute bedrock of our national security. If there is an attack on the US ... we would come to their aid.

"Now, how that manifests itself obviously will depend on the circumstances and the consultations with our allies."

Mr Turnbull said Australia and the US both still believed tough new sanctions on North Korea could force the regime to abandon its nuclear weapons program.

Tensions have been rising on the Korean peninsula after North Korea carried out two intercontinental ballistic missile tests last month.

Mr Trump has warned he would not allow Pyongyang to develop nuclear weapons capable of hitting the US.

Mr Turnbull discussed North Korea's behaviour with US Vice-President Mike Pence overnight, calling it "the most dangerous flashpoint in the world today".

He would not say if Mr Pence sought any specific assurances of military aid from Australia.

But the Prime Minister said the terms of the Australia-US alliance were clear.
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Australia would support United States in conflict, Malcolm Turnbull says

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says if North Korea launches an attack on the United States, Australia will join the conflict.

"America stands by its allies, including Australia of course, and we stand by the United States," Mr Turnbull told 3AW.

"So be very, very clear on that. If there's an attack on the US, the ANZUS Treaty would be invoked and Australia would come to the aid of the United States, as America would come to our aid if we were attacked."

"But be under no misapprehension, in terms of defence, we are joined at the hip," he said.

"The American alliance is the absolute bedrock of our national security. If there is an attack on the US ... we would come to their aid.

"Now, how that manifests itself obviously will depend on the circumstances and the consultations with our allies."

Mr Turnbull said Australia and the US both still believed tough new sanctions on North Korea could force the regime to abandon its nuclear weapons program.

Tensions have been rising on the Korean peninsula after North Korea carried out two intercontinental ballistic missile tests last month.

Mr Trump has warned he would not allow Pyongyang to develop nuclear weapons capable of hitting the US.

Mr Turnbull discussed North Korea's behaviour with US Vice-President Mike Pence overnight, calling it "the most dangerous flashpoint in the world today".

He would not say if Mr Pence sought any specific assurances of military aid from Australia.

But the Prime Minister said the terms of the Australia-US alliance were clear.
Phew, I was wondering what the US might do without them.
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Australia would support United States in conflict, Malcolm Turnbull says

Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull says if North Korea launches an attack on the United States, Australia will join the conflict.

"America stands by its allies, including Australia of course, and we stand by the United States," Mr Turnbull told 3AW.

"So be very, very clear on that. If there's an attack on the US, the ANZUS Treaty would be invoked and Australia would come to the aid of the United States, as America would come to our aid if we were attacked."

"But be under no misapprehension, in terms of defence, we are joined at the hip," he said.

"The American alliance is the absolute bedrock of our national security. If there is an attack on the US ... we would come to their aid.

"Now, how that manifests itself obviously will depend on the circumstances and the consultations with our allies."

Mr Turnbull said Australia and the US both still believed tough new sanctions on North Korea could force the regime to abandon its nuclear weapons program.

Tensions have been rising on the Korean peninsula after North Korea carried out two intercontinental ballistic missile tests last month.

Mr Trump has warned he would not allow Pyongyang to develop nuclear weapons capable of hitting the US.

Mr Turnbull discussed North Korea's behaviour with US Vice-President Mike Pence overnight, calling it "the most dangerous flashpoint in the world today".

He would not say if Mr Pence sought any specific assurances of military aid from Australia.

But the Prime Minister said the terms of the Australia-US alliance were clear.
Problem is, we have a democracy and the Prime Minister of Australia, overnight would become the Ex Australian Prime Minister.

Nk can fire 1,000 rockets at the south with 50 containing nukes.

All over in 5 minutes and NOTHING the USA can do about it, except take pop shots at half a dozen missiles IF they are lucky.

How many charred and fried American faces does Trump want on the front of news papers?

USA needs to sit down and look at what NK wants and give them some.

Its called the Nuclear Deterrent, and NK has it

Trump hits at NK first, thousands of Americans get fried as well.

And all this presumes Kim does not have chemical and biological weapons already on American soil waiting for release, I'd be shocked if he didn't.
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Russia and China won't like North Korea being turned into a glass parking lot. But they are upwind of the fallout -- take that into consideration.

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China will not defend NK. It will be "neutral" in case of US vs NK military conflict. The situation may change only if the States will use nukes against NK. In this case China and Russia may give a military response to the USA. Not because we love fat Kim and his regime, but because we won't tolerate nuclear fallout and millions of refugees at our borders.

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The USA should allow NK to attack first. But this is the result of all the buying of China's goods. We have created a world power.
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I would like to see Trump sit down with the Chinese and Russian leader in a room and discuss this very dangerous situation without any outside influences. I am sure none of the parties want an escalation. I am highly suspicious of the EU though, as they would benefit from prolonged tensions and escalation. I imagine the globalists would welcome a nuclear war if it gets them closer to their agenda.
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FUCK China! We should never have lifted them up all those years ago. We should have let them starve in their own demise FUCK China for their greedy betrayal
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FUCK China! We should never have lifted them up all those years ago. We should have let them starve in their own demise FUCK China for their greedy betrayal
you did not lift them up you went there to "paul markham"...you gave them suicide nets its not like you did it for humanitarian reasons you went there out of greed...and now you want to start wars in their region after starting many wars in their region....delusional americans LOL
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It will be a false flag as usual, so it will appear that NK attacked first
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China just said they will let NK attack us and do nothing to support America, they will stay neutral.

That is my point.

No allie will say they'll stand by and let someone attack us.

Trump is weak, China knows Trump is weak, and now they're going in for world dominance and letting NK attack us with no repercussions.
Holy crap you are ignorant.
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you did not lift them up you went there to "paul markham"...you gave them suicide nets its not like you did it for humanitarian reasons you went there out of greed...and now you want to start wars in their region after starting many wars in their region....delusional americans LOL
I'm talking about before industrialization. How old are you? Maybe you're to young or never learned in history class. The Great Chinese Famine

Stupid Chinese killed all the sparrows, insect population exploded, crops died, etc. etc. We should have never helped the Chinese. They are flawed to steal our intellectual property, hack us, trade deficit, fuck us with North Korea. Fuck China we should have let them all starve. They were stupid to fuck with nature and they paid the consequence. They are stupid to fuck with America and will pay the consequence.

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this is probably not the truth. i don't believe they are going to nuke a thing.
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Old 08-11-2017, 05:59 PM   #35
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Nothing you wrote changes the fact you played yourselves...it is you who went to produce over there, nobody held a gun to your heads...most of your production is in China because of profit and nothing else...greed and shareholder supremacy...you played yourselves...

It is the equivalent of Paul saying he went to help the CZ economy ajajajajajajaj!
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Old 08-12-2017, 12:02 AM   #36
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FUCK China! We should never have lifted them up all those years ago. We should have let them starve in their own demise FUCK China for their greedy betrayal
It was done by orders of the 1% backed by liberals who think it's right to share the wealth of the West.
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I'm talking about before industrialization. How old are you? Maybe you're to young or never learned in history class. The Great Chinese Famine

Stupid Chinese killed all the sparrows, insect population exploded, crops died, etc. etc. We should have never helped the Chinese. They are flawed to steal our intellectual property, hack us, trade deficit, fuck us with North Korea. Fuck China we should have let them all starve. They were stupid to fuck with nature and they paid the consequence. They are stupid to fuck with America and will pay the consequence.

Don't bother with him. He lies. Everyone knows China was fucking itself because of stupidity.
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Can China afford to upset its biggest customer to come to the rescue of a parasite State?

This is about protecting the regime, most NKs are in the dark or denial. NK is one of the poorest places on Earth to live. 15 fascinating facts about North Korea.
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Can China afford to upset its biggest customer to come to the rescue of a parasite State?

This is about protecting the regime, most NKs are in the dark or denial. NK is one of the poorest places on Earth to live. 15 fascinating facts about North Korea.
NK is Chinas puppet, no matter what regime is in power there, unless another country replaces Chinas titty with their own. China uses NK to intimate the Asia Pacific region, and America. China is now using Duterte in the Philippines as a puppet as well, without the nuclear threat. After they signed billions in contracts with the Phillipines Duterte all of a sudden turned on American ;)

China is a fucking cowards using other world leaders to speak for them. Disgusting
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NK is Chinas puppet, no matter what regime is in power there, unless another country replaces Chinas titty with their own. China uses NK to intimate the Asia Pacific region, and America. China is now using Duterte in the Philippines as a puppet as well, without the nuclear threat. After they signed billions in contracts with the Phillipines Duterte all of a sudden turned on American ;)

China is a fucking cowards using other world leaders to speak for them. Disgusting
Trump handed Asia Pacific area to China when he pulled out of TTP

I don't think Trump has the balls to do anything about NK, but he does have the stupidity.

Long term he's already handed Asian Pacific to China, bombing NK will just expedite that process.

To me Trumpos just trying to deflect NK to Guam, that's the best missile defence area in the world. I don't think Kim is that stupid, mainland or nothing.

Its not being reported in the USA, but Trumps tweets are very much provoking NK and they ARE preparing for war, the population is convinced the USA is about to invade them.

https://www.rt.com/news/399389-north...ions-fight-us/

3.5 million ready to fight, South Korea will be slaughtered. When's the draft happening in the USA? should be active now with the speed Trump is moving at.. or YOUR FUCKED.
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I say nuke those dog munchers and that fat mongo of a "leader" ASAP
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I say nuke those dog munchers and that fat mongo of a "leader" ASAP
Ok good idea, but there's going to be millions of injured civilians and a total infrastructure meltdown endangering the lives of millions more.

So what's the plan for that first?

Also NK will hit South Korea no matter how hard you nuke them, expect a million plus soldiers to be there in 24 hours, and two million more following. That will be a hand to hand battle, how many troops should the USA send in? Half Million maybe?

And there's nuclear fall out, if that blows in to China or Russia, I don't think they will like it... Better hope it blows to japan or south? Where do you think would be best? Because where ever that settles.. USA will certainly be funding them for eternity in clean up.

Answer that and I'm all with ya.. Nuke Him.
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Trump handed Asia Pacific area to China when he pulled out of TTP

I don't think Trump has the balls to do anything about NK, but he does have the stupidity.

Long term he's already handed Asian Pacific to China, bombing NK will just expedite that process.

To me Trumpos just trying to deflect NK to Guam, that's the best missile defence area in the world. I don't think Kim is that stupid, mainland or nothing.

Its not being reported in the USA, but Trumps tweets are very much provoking NK and they ARE preparing for war, the population is convinced the USA is about to invade them.

https://www.rt.com/news/399389-north...ions-fight-us/

3.5 million ready to fight, South Korea will be slaughtered. When's the draft happening in the USA? should be active now with the speed Trump is moving at.. or YOUR FUCKED.
How does pulling out of a trade agreement that favours low wage countries exporting to the US work against the US?

I will agree that a lot more has to be done to reduce the power of China bu that will or won't come.
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How does pulling out of a trade agreement that favours low wage countries exporting to the US work against the US?

I will agree that a lot more has to be done to reduce the power of China bu that will or won't come.
Because the USA needs these countries to be dependant on them.. not China. And with a free trade agreement those countries would of been able to produce what China does now, and sell it to the USA.

Forget the trade.. TTP from an American perspective was all about slowing the growth of China. It was cheap.. considering the alternatives.

Your English, living in Cheq, so I hardly expect you to get it.
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It was done by orders of the 1% backed by liberals who think it's right to share the wealth of the West.
did the 1% tell you to move your production to CZ?

it was western greed wasnt it paul? "share wealth" LOL you went to exploit cheap work not "share wealth"

nigga you off your meds....
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Who says that there will be a North Korea left to defend?
Chinese General: "See that glow in the distance? Take that position and hold it!"
The Chinese are just saving face.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese and Russians are withdrawing their troops covertly to a safe distance.

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Ok good idea, but there's going to be millions of injured civilians and a total infrastructure meltdown endangering the lives of millions more.
So what's the plan for that first?
Also NK will hit South Korea no matter how hard you nuke them, expect a million plus soldiers to be there in 24 hours, and two million more following. That will be a hand to hand battle, how many troops should the USA send in? Half Million maybe?
And there's nuclear fall out, if that blows in to China or Russia, I don't think they will like it... Better hope it blows to japan or south? Where do you think would be best? Because where ever that settles.. USA will certainly be funding them for eternity in clean up.
Answer that and I'm all with ya.. Nuke Him.
Kim has the one million army.
NK artillery located near Seoul (20 kilometres - 12 miles) with a large amount, they can burn Seoul with million peoples.
In SK located 25 nuke power plants + Japan near.
As told USA intelligence - NK already has 20-60 nukes warheads.
And of course, China can send a little partisan squad with 1 000 000 units or more.
Perhaps damage will be 1 trillion $.
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Before typing -- engage brain^^



Defend what?
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It was done by orders of the 1% backed by liberals who think it's right to share the wealth of the West.
More like capitalists that found cheap labour ( children _) to boost their bottom line ...

Stop thinking that US actions are taken in perspective of bettering the lifes of non-americans
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You want war America? cos you have it.

N. Korea on standby to launch.

N. Korea 'on standby to launch,' state-run paper says in response to Trump's latest warnings | Fox News

Is Trump going to kill tens of millions of North Koreans tonight? cos face it anything that's left after that initial attack is going to be thrown back, you got one hit and it's over or WW3.

Thanks Trump!

Americans need to get this guy out of office, Trump is a danger to the safety and stability of your nation and the rest of the world.

Read, then realise Nk's nukes are the least of your concerns.

Why the World Should Fear North Korea's Biological Weapons | The National Interest Blog

https://www.rand.org/content/dam/ran...RAND_CT401.pdf
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