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roganoli · 08-17-2017, 02:03 AM

Sorry... Its true!

incredibleworkethic · 08-17-2017, 02:19 AM

Lol, off to the atm to remove cams money ;)!

pimpmaster9000 · 08-17-2017, 02:22 AM

sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...

Paul Markham · 08-17-2017, 02:27 AM

There's still money in recorded porn. It's on the large tubes.

PaperstreetWinston · 08-17-2017, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio

sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...

Exca-fucking-actly!!!

bronco67 · 08-17-2017, 02:52 AM

If there's no money in porn, then why is there a steady stream of porn coming out every day with hotter than ever girls doing nastier than ever things? It's impossible to keep up with this "no money" business.

adultchatpay · 08-17-2017, 03:35 AM

There is still money in porn but it's not the old days anymore. If you are creative and innovative, you will still make lots of money in porn.

mopek1 · 08-17-2017, 03:47 AM

Aside from tubes, who's making big money in porn?

I see LOTS of programs closing (the big ones too) and very few opening.

wehateporn · 08-17-2017, 03:49 AM

The more creative ones are still selling, but not the ones who do standard stuff

CaptainHowdy · 08-17-2017, 04:32 AM

There is money to be made, unfortunately you now have to work for it.

yuu.design · 08-17-2017, 05:49 AM

another one crying about that

adultwebmestar · 08-17-2017, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1

Aside from tubes, who's making big money in porn?

I see LOTS of programs closing (the big ones too) and very few opening.

ad companies, exoclick, popads etc. and some dating sites with fake profiles, regional escort agencies, sites

MedCash_Miller · 08-17-2017, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

There is money to be made, unfortunately you now have to work for it.

(not unfortunate for the hungry)

brassmonkey · 08-17-2017, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by yuu

another one crying about that

Bladewire · 08-17-2017, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio

sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...

^^^ Truth

celandina · 08-17-2017, 08:13 AM

Stop:

1) stealing content,
2) skimming off ugly cam girls,
3) promote dating sites with three legged lady and 1000 guys pretending to be women,
4) launch another tube ( also see # 1)
5) "pray"to fads like 3D or VR
6) push another solo site
7) push another escort site with ...oh see #3)

There may be more but these are the main ones.

Instead, be creative and make an priginal content and you will be OK.

Hannes · 08-17-2017, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio

sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...

couldn't agree more

st0ned · 08-17-2017, 08:27 AM

Times have definitely changed but as long as you learn to adapt there is still plenty of money to be made.

mopek1 · 08-17-2017, 08:35 AM

With decreasing revenue expectations yearly I don't believe the effort is worth it.

Adapt all you wish (which is a good strategy) but at one point the treadmill you're running on will be going too fast - meaning the return you get for the effort put in won't be worth it, compared to other ways of making money.

roganoli · 08-17-2017, 08:50 AM

Ratios are terrible these days and Google not like porn anymore...

Pichunter and freeones are already thinking about giving up

mopek1 · 08-17-2017, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by roganoli

Pichunter and freeones are already thinking about giving up

I didn't hear about that. Too bad. But I'm not surprised.

CaptainHowdy · 08-17-2017, 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roganoli

Ratios are terrible these days and Google not like porn anymore...

Pichunter and freeones are already thinking about giving up

It ain't bad to give up ...

Zeiss · 08-17-2017, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio

sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...

The Porn Nerd · 08-17-2017, 10:08 AM

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

???

!

mopek1 · 08-17-2017, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio

sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...

I don't buy that.

Lots of smart and hardworking webmasters have left. Lots of hardworking companies with original content closed up shop long ago. I mean almost a decade ago because they saw the coming of the tubes and felt they couldn't be profitable.

Joe Obenberger · 08-17-2017, 02:22 PM

There's always room at the top.

Go tell that defeatist stuff to the guy who created Blacked, Tushy, and other sites.

RyuLion · 08-17-2017, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

There's still money in recorded porn. It's on the large tubes.

Also on Torrents, blogs and forums..

hdbuilder · 08-17-2017, 02:25 PM

Still plenty in cams, you should try it...

GAMEFINEST · 08-17-2017, 02:39 PM

Good luck to the winners

dillfly2000 · 08-17-2017, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by roganoli

Sorry... Its true!

South Korea disagrees, it's mostly banned there but the money keeps flowing.

NatalieK · 08-17-2017, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roganoli

Ratios are terrible these days and Google not like porn anymore...

Pichunter and freeones are already thinking about giving up

what a load of BS. My ratio´s still around 1:300, you need to generate traffic of real people & send that traffic to a converting site, a site with regular updates & fresh content

roganoli · 08-17-2017, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

what a load of BS. My ratio´s still around 1:300, you need to generate traffic of real people & send that traffic to a converting site, a site with regular updates & fresh content

Fake news...

mechanicvirus · 08-17-2017, 05:46 PM

Having the best year ever, even on a non ssl site!!!! Guess some people just cant sell stuff i dunno.

mopek1 · 08-17-2017, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

what a load of BS. My ratio´s still around 1:300, you need to generate traffic of real people & send that traffic to a converting site, a site with regular updates & fresh content

Really?

Let's see if I have any of those...

1- Real traffic ... yes.
2- Converting site with updates and fresh content.... none that I can see.

Show me what converts at 1:300 these days. Many of the really big players are gone or dying and a ton of the smaller ones are long gone.

I'd love to see what converts at 1:300 that is NOT ultra filtered.

mopek1 · 08-17-2017, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mechanicvirus

Having the best year ever,

Selling porn memberships?

mopek1 · 08-17-2017, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio

sure there is...just not for people who are used to picking low hanging fruit...

People who could only pick low hanging fruit were gone by 2010.

The programs themselves have disappeared and the ones left are on life support with few exceptions.

Tubes still make money and that's about it as far as being able to profit from adult. But they make it by selling traffic to people who push dating, not by selling porn memberships.

The money in porn is now traffic and dating. And those are starting to dwindle as well.

CPA-Rush · 08-17-2017, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1

People who could only pick low hanging fruit were gone by 2010.

The programs themselves have disappeared and the ones left are on life support with few exceptions.

Tubes still make money and that's about it as far as being able to profit from adult. But they make it by selling traffic to people who push dating, not by selling porn memberships.

The money in porn is now traffic and dating. And those are starting to dwindle as well.

well said , there is till money but it's hard and you need to fight everyday unless you come with super creative solution . you cant make money with skilled hard work from free content like few years ago .

even cams are not good as 2012-2014 , i see some advertisers spend 50,000 dollars a month to invest in generic traffic that could give RIO after half decade or not ,nothing instant and without spending it's impossible these advertisers also after low signals it's just tell you how adult verticals doing now. i tested those sources then i got my campaigns blocked . very rich...

basically everything is up and down, don't put your all eggs in same basket.

ErectMedia · 08-17-2017, 08:05 PM

2003 lot of pay site income
today most of my adult income is in cams and selling advertising
do mainstream shit as well

Axeman · 08-17-2017, 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mopek1

Really?

Let's see if I have any of those...

1- Real traffic ... yes.
2- Converting site with updates and fresh content.... none that I can see.

Show me what converts at 1:300 these days. Many of the really big players are gone or dying and a ton of the smaller ones are long gone.

I'd love to see what converts at 1:300 that is NOT ultra filtered.

Since April 15th when we got the new responsive tours up, our ratios are:

KarupsHA - 1:357
KarupsOW - 1:459
KarupsPC - 1:628
BFCollection - 1:411

That is the overall ratios on all types of traffic.

ruff · 08-17-2017, 11:25 PM

Porn money is like Bitcoin money, not morally correct. God is coming and he's going to shit on your pizza.

j3rkules · 08-18-2017, 12:05 AM

No money for losers.

mopek1 · 08-18-2017, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axeman

Since April 15th when we got the new responsive tours up, our ratios are:

KarupsHA - 1:357
KarupsOW - 1:459
KarupsPC - 1:628
BFCollection - 1:411

That is the overall ratios on all types of traffic.

ALL types of traffic?

I just have a hard time believing that. The first link goes to a site that has the title, "Home Town Amateurs" yet the actors look nothing like amateurs. It's good content but nothing that hasn't been done many times over the last decade.

I'd be happy with 1:2000 and I have amateur traffic. Real people no bots, trades etc... My best ratios with highly targeted traffic to amateur programs which fit perfectly with my domains (you can't get a better match) are 1:7000 ...

Unless your traffic is so filtered - meaning it's really 1:8000 but by filtering and filtering some more you dwindle it down to 1:400 then I get it. But even organic traffic sent to those tours won't give you 1:400.

I wish it were the case still.

CrazyMartin · 08-18-2017, 05:16 AM

atk converts the same as Karups

my #1 sponsors

mopek1 · 08-18-2017, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyMartin

atk converts the same as Karups

my #1 sponsors

Who are atk?

Denny · 08-18-2017, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Who are atk?

ATK Cash | Welcome to ATKCash

mopek1 · 08-18-2017, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denny

ATK Cash | Welcome to ATKCash

Thanks.

I can't see how that converts at 1:500 or less.

I can find almost any content I want on Tumblr for free. Then there's reddit and forums and lets not forget tubes.

Why would someone pay for that when hundreds of thousands of videos and video clips like it are available free.

Is there anything that most program owners and webmasters are missing that Karups and ATK have figured out?

emill · 08-20-2017, 02:22 PM

end of great eara in porn, now is all free noone want to buy porn

tobedeleted · 08-20-2017, 04:16 PM

When it comes to straight-up membership sites I have seen 'some' money. But it has to be exclusive and very niche. And you have to find just the right audience. You can't just throw up a general porn site and skim tube traffic and convert.

But the problem is that the ROI is so bad that it pretty much makes any wise Webmaster stop before they even get started. If you know that you will most likely spend more than you will make (and this includes time) and you are technically in a market that is quickly going extinct, then whats the point?

As an experiment I started a few member sites hoping that there may still be some money in it. Also the fact that many membership sites have closed lessens the competition. And I did make some money and I'm sure if I worked everyday constantly I could get enough rebills to make some decent passive income, but it's a big IF and does not really seem worth the time anymore. Because like many have already said, you can find virtually anything for free so what's the point.

And for those sites that are still doing well, I wonder how many of their members even know they are members. I used to make money from people that were members for years that never even logged in. They just joined one night, had fun and forgot they ever joined and never got around to cancelling. I even sent out announcements but they probably were never read or went to spam.

Even selling traffic will eventually die out because if it does not convert (because no one buys anything), then people will see no return and stop buying.

It's kinda funny but when tubes came out I thought that it was the anti-porn people that started them. Because what better way to kill an industry then give it all away for free.

Money is still there, but it has to be interactive or tangible.

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Spunky · 08-20-2017, 08:01 PM

Money is over rated

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celandina Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 10,827	Stop: 1) stealing content, 2) skimming off ugly cam girls, 3) promote dating sites with three legged lady and 1000 guys pretending to be women, 4) launch another tube ( also see # 1) 5) "pray"to fads like 3D or VR 6) push another solo site 7) push another escort site with ...oh see #3) There may be more but these are the main ones. Instead, be creative and make an priginal content and you will be OK.

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mopek1 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,868	With decreasing revenue expectations yearly I don't believe the effort is worth it. Adapt all you wish (which is a good strategy) but at one point the treadmill you're running on will be going too fast - meaning the return you get for the effort put in won't be worth it, compared to other ways of making money.

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tobedeleted Pay Per Minute Products Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 299	When it comes to straight-up membership sites I have seen 'some' money. But it has to be exclusive and very niche. And you have to find just the right audience. You can't just throw up a general porn site and skim tube traffic and convert. But the problem is that the ROI is so bad that it pretty much makes any wise Webmaster stop before they even get started. If you know that you will most likely spend more than you will make (and this includes time) and you are technically in a market that is quickly going extinct, then whats the point? As an experiment I started a few member sites hoping that there may still be some money in it. Also the fact that many membership sites have closed lessens the competition. And I did make some money and I'm sure if I worked everyday constantly I could get enough rebills to make some decent passive income, but it's a big IF and does not really seem worth the time anymore. Because like many have already said, you can find virtually anything for free so what's the point. And for those sites that are still doing well, I wonder how many of their members even know they are members. I used to make money from people that were members for years that never even logged in. They just joined one night, had fun and forgot they ever joined and never got around to cancelling. I even sent out announcements but they probably were never read or went to spam. Even selling traffic will eventually die out because if it does not convert (because no one buys anything), then people will see no return and stop buying. It's kinda funny but when tubes came out I thought that it was the anti-porn people that started them. Because what better way to kill an industry then give it all away for free. Money is still there, but it has to be interactive or tangible.

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